Wtf is going on?
128 2018-01-19 by Weareone2
Very simple. Straight to the point. What do people think is really going on? I haven't seen anything quite like this before.
Support for the government. Support for private mercenaries. Support for all the things conspiracy theorists have stood against for a long time.
Like the title reads WTF is going on?
203 comments
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
SS:
Simple. I just wanna know what everyone thinks. Trump/Russia. Hillary/U1. Pedogate. Qanon. Does someone have an in depth understanding? I've been reading like mad and I can't for the first time make heads or tails.
1 ogrelin 2018-01-19
Partisanship can be more compelling that reasonable thought for some folks.
1 GuruOfGravitas 2018-01-19
Are all your sources from one side of the division?
And FoxNews, firmly on one side, did a thorough debunking of the Uranium One story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vCjyWlpmEY
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
No. I read both sides. Both sides seem really off to how they normally operate. So. That's why I've proposed this question.
1 GuruOfGravitas 2018-01-19
So did you notice, both sides agree on Uranium. I base that on FoxNews being the flagship of conservative media.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
While I certainly agree with what they are reporting. It really doesn't strike me as the news networks I've come to watch. Something is different. It's off. I don't get it.
1 GuruOfGravitas 2018-01-19
I don't know what you mean with you comment except to keep moving the topic away from your claim.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Didn't make any claims. I agree that U1 could be a hoax. I'm more so asking the commenters here. WTF is going on? Nothing seems right. News stations are off. Propaganda like I've never seen. I've never seen this much disinformation before. So. Just wondering what other people think.
1 chase32 2018-01-19
I think this is what it looks like on the front line of a war where nobody has a solid clue who the powers fighting are.
The more certain somebody is, the more my BS detector seems to go off.
1 Hesonpoint 2018-01-19
You seem to be pushing this narrative hard today. Just because David Brock says so doesn't make it the truth. Uranium One isn't just a storm, it's a catagory 5 hurricane getting ready to make landfall.
1 GuruOfGravitas 2018-01-19
Does David Brock for Fox News? lol
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
Can I be completely unabashedly honest? The final answer is: Jews. I'm not even joking. Trump/Russia is a maybe, but not even as big or bad as what Hillary was doing. Obama possibly/probably CIA, Michelle 90% sure to be a man. Hillary/U1 is more of a technical gotcha, but still wrong. Pedogate true, pizzagate still unverifiable but totally viable, Qanon=good questions/great material some real some larp. Major politics at play. Throughout history one usually had to be close to the people to know what's happening. Here we are, occasionally rubbing shoulders with them/the info. If Trump doesn't attempt to prosecute/curtail the activity, he gets favors done for him. This is how politics works. He will have to choose, or to pick and choose. But do look up the JQ.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Huh. I don't think Jews run the world. I think they did at one time. I think we're seeing the Jesuits take over. But ya know. No friggin clue anymore. I was more certain years ago. Now I'm just baffled.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
Rothchild family /central banks? Owners of CNN/NBC, Facebook, Youtube, even this site. Insurance benefactor from 9/11, which was an inside job (((by???))). Research man. US sends average of $3.5 billion to a particular country every year. Google it. It's there for now.....
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Yeah. Like I said they did at one time. I think it is the rise of the Jesuits now.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
wut? You mean the "As members of a religious order, Jesuits take three vows — of poverty, chastity and obedience — " Jesuits? lmao. Dude, look at what I posted above. All the power players belong to a certain (((group))). ....and they ain't Jesuit.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
That's the old world order. The Court Jews. I believe they did have a vast amount of wealth - still do. Still very much in control.
But. There's a Jesuit pope. Trump went to Fordham University. A Jesuit School. I think we're seeing a transition of power after reading all of these comments. A global wake up, transfer of power (secret societies fighting), and a sad attempt to start world war three.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
Ahh...When I first read this last reply of yours, I was slightly enchanted with the idea. But a bit of research shows that Trump was at Fordham only two years. Even he had been there 4 or 6 years, I really don't see Trump as the sort who is beholden to religious ideology. I do see him as a business man, a worldly man, and a patriotic man. I went to a college for 5 years, and graduated with honors. Class size averaged 23 people (so fairly small/close-knit). I don't feel beholden to that college or its ideals whatsoever. So I really can't see Trump feeling Jesuit. Do you have more evidence for your theory that you'd be willing to share?
1 Marcuskb91 2018-01-19
Information warfare. Disinformation warfare. Knowledge is power.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
This I can believe. Completely. So much disinformation out there. Nothing is making sense.
Jesuits are popping up everywhere these days. Are we witnessing the take down of the old world order? With a new and worse boss coming in? What do you think? Or is it just the final installments to their "master plan?"
1 Jabroni77 2018-01-19
Nah we have been algorithmicly pigeon holed into our information bubbles for safe keeping.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Yeah that sounds about right. Hit us with enough disinformation/information and we fall apart.
1 Sign_Upp 2018-01-19
support for a republican government is not support for a 'government'. look up the differences between republicans and democrats ideologies, republicans are for LESS GOVERNMENT while extreme leftists are for ABSOLUTE GOVERNMENT CONTROL. educate yourself on why exactly so many people support this particular republic
1 chase32 2018-01-19
This kind of intense partisan rhetoric is what the OP is complaining about.
1 lopestatus 2018-01-19
No, the botting, clandestine downvoting and brigading are though.
Must be right over the bombsite; if catching this much flak.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Exactlyyyyyyyy.
1 Lucy-Sky-Diamondz 2018-01-19
Hey quick question. Did you make this exact post a year or two ago?
Cause I just legit Deja Vu that you did, perhaps under another username. I remember in that thread, a user was agreeing that we should be using mercenaries to take out soros/r0thsch1lds and they got banned for the comment
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
I did not.
1 PrussianBot 2018-01-19
Yes, you are describing the ideology of republican voters, not the Republican Party. The Democrat and Republican parties are controlled by the same people. The two party paradigm is a scam.
1 theRealKittin 2018-01-19
I always found this concept interesting. We are fooled into believing we have a choice...
1 TheKolbrin 2018-01-19
Now ask yourself.. who controls the government? Not WE the people- but these people.
1 dog_star_ 2018-01-19
Educate yourself on basic logic. While you're doing that learn how to use basic punctuation. And I can see you have the ability to type in caps. Try putting one at the beginning of each sentence.
This will add authority to your advice to "educate yourself."
1 Occams-shaving-cream 2018-01-19
We are seeing a shift... that is the only thing completely clear.
1 biesnacks 2018-01-19
light always beats dark, sometimes it just takes time.
1 goldmanstackss 2018-01-19
Except this sub is dead now.
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
wha-? I mean besides the pope, what other jesuits...?
1 Interior_Castle 2018-01-19
it's estimated that 75-90% of the u.s. population are jesuits
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
Uh are you trolling? Can you provide evidence or website or book citation?
1 Interior_Castle 2018-01-19
they're just a front for the Dominicans
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
And the Dominicans are?
1 Interior_Castle 2018-01-19
a front for the Benedictines
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
dig into the JQ. Media ownership. Information ownership. MONEY OWNERSHIP. ====POWER
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
PErhaps it may be easier for people to start with the brilliant Documentary Spielberg's Hoax and then go from there.
1 nuclearsprout 2018-01-19
That's very much the elephant in the room.
1 Justsaguy12345 2018-01-19
Bad advice. Unless you want all hell to break lose on your life.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
they are re-writing history. Use Bing and use Google to search for "Jewish slave traders". We spend most of our conscious time connected to media. (((They))) literally have the ability to change our reality.
1 Justsaguy12345 2018-01-19
I'm well aware. Reality changed? Raises hand
1 BooPiBooPi 2018-01-19
Saturation of information is also a tactic to have oversight of where specific and crucial intel is going and who is sharing it while the rest are uninformed and chasing bullshit like Q's questioning. I know i will be crucified for mentioning Q this way, but it's a legit tactic used in HUMINT circles. Just consider it and i would love to see people have a real discussion regarding it.. Same goes for a lot of these other insider anons out there and not just Q
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
'intel', 'humint', you sound like an expert on all of this stuff.
Can I ask you, do you believe the nations are controlled by different people?
Or do you accept that the nations are all controlled by one group at the top?
1 Aye_or_Nay 2018-01-19
Yes.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
Why?
1 Aye_or_Nay 2018-01-19
It is compartmentalized.
Family, School Board. Counsel, Mayor, Sheriffs, Hired Militarized Police, State Reps, Governor, Congress, President, Courts, UN, IMF, World Bank....
Within the system, everybody is out for their own agenda...You do what the player above says or smacked like a baby. Get out of line and you get media lynched, set-up on charges, or blackmailed and put in some fucking cage. You play by the rules or you'll get cooked.
The laws are ambiguous and arbitrarily applied to the weak. Enough people are fooled that there are "sides" - that there is right and wrong, that it keeps most people so busy arguing, so they never figure it out and spend decades of their lives debating straw dogs, watching sports, buying shit, and getting numb with booze, so they can tell themselves "it's not that bad." There are a few rogue free agents but they are allowed to exist to perpetuate the illusion of freedom and free will.
Why? It's a group of complex, divergent systems trying to keep the balls in the air. No one is in charge....The elite answer only to the code. The Illusion of Order is The Order.
1 experimentalist 2018-01-19
Don't you mean "Aye" ? :)
1 Aye_or_Nay 2018-01-19
I meant yes, as in "...do you think it was "A" or "B"? Yes.
As in both
fuck you're right- I should've use Aye
1 BooPiBooPi 2018-01-19
I believe nations are controlled by different people playing the long game for a common cause. The world has always been at war by covert operations and collusion via the secret services, intelligence communities and nation states while some of the said services are operating without any governmental oversight at all.
Human intelligence as a craft is older than biblical times and i do know that things are far worse than we think or perceive it to be.
I'm not going to speculate about who specifically is sitting at the steering wheel.
1 TheKolbrin 2018-01-19
As they say..follow the money.
Absolute no brainer.
1 honestlyimeanreally 2018-01-19
Knowledge is power.
Power corrupts.
Study hard.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
Do you believe school exists to make us smarter?
There exists undeniable evidence that this is not the case.
1 honestlyimeanreally 2018-01-19
No, I believe they exist to train you to behave and perform tasks set by your superior.
You don’t need a school to study, my friend.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
This is true. Where would you recommend people go if they are open-minded and willing to learn?
1 honestlyimeanreally 2018-01-19
A library. They're (almost?) always free, usually have internet, and the people there can literally help you research any topic. Most people don't take advantage of the library, and it sounds lame, but seriously it's a great place to study. Yes, you may have these resources at home (quiet place, computer, internet) but there is a lot to be said about a dedicated environment for no-nonsense research. You are always primed to do work when entering; the same cannot be said when I sit down at my desktop and have the icons of a dozen video games staring back at me.
open-mindedness and willingness to learn is undoubtedly important, but you must embrace critical thinking, too!
Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
And read what?
1 honestlyimeanreally 2018-01-19
Whatever it is you'd like to study.... Are you trying to play some devil's advocate game with me where you imply that all knowledge is fruitless, or something?
Go on, stop beating around the bush. What are you trying to say?
1 pshypshy 2018-01-19
To be fair... almost every single person who's had a book published that's available in a library was able to do so because of schooling.
1 Spider_Goat7 2018-01-19
What are you even referring to specifically? Who is supporting private mercenaries?
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Think macro picture. Are we seeing a dismantling of the old world order? Or are we seeing the final nails in the coffin?
1 BadgerGecko 2018-01-19
Who knows
https://youtu.be/wcy8uLjRHPM
1 throw_trash_ 2018-01-19
The Republicans claim to have another "bombshell worse than watergate." We don't know if it's real or not, but given last time (fast and furious) it was bullshit... I'm personally not holding my breath.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
That I have questions about too. Everything is so vague. Like I can't get a good picture. Is anyone not lying these days?
1 AnonDidNothingWrong 2018-01-19
If they would release the memo both sides can see the truth
1 NetflixandShill69 2018-01-19
you mean, "the truth".
1 toomuchpork 2018-01-19
FTFY
1 LordClaranceMcDonald 2018-01-19
In fairness, the people who are apparently at the heart of this memo were the ones responsible for fast & furious as well and as thus weren't too keen on prosecuting themselves. We all know that F&F was BS and should have resulted in multiple firings/convictions/lawsuits, but since the DOJ, DHS, IRS, FBI, and almost all other major departments had been politically infiltrated, hoping they would somehow grow a conscience was just foolhardy.
1 Kingdomhearts123 2018-01-19
If it doesn't cover 9/11... The job's only half done
1 white_s2k 2018-01-19
F&F was bullshit? You sure you're in the right subreddit?
1 throw_trash_ 2018-01-19
Is that a threat for not thinking along party lines?
1 IanPhlegming 2018-01-19
Fast and Furious....when Eric Holder refused to provide information to congress....was found in contempt....and nothing happened.
I don't think it was an actually conspiracy to run weapons to the drug cabals. But I do think it was a huge fuckup that got covered up. Successfully.
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
Conspiracy people have bought into the "Jesuit awakening". In other words, Jesuits are taking down the deep state/Illuminati and convincing people they are the good guys.
In the meantime Q is trying to get us supporting the NSA, military intelligence, Erik Prince, Bin Salman, a former mob-connected Atlantic City mogul who flashes Freemason signs and has a weird relationship with his daughter (Trump), etc. All while spending a minimum amount of time talking about the Vatican, Jesuits, Black Nobility AKA the people who REALLY run the world.
That's what's going on.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-19
And Trump went to Fordham University, a Jesuit school.
I've thought for quite awhile that we're witnessing a battle of the "secret societies."
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
Most importantly, be aware of the war in Iran they are trying to start right now, with Erik Prince and private mercenaries leading the way.
Be aware that this is a Jesuit trick, and their last ditch effort to start WW3.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Thank you. This makes sense. I figured the Jesuits were doing something. Hence the pope. Damn they play an advanced chess game. Thank you, again.
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
Most importantly, be aware of the war in Iran they are trying to start right now, with Erik Prince and private mercenaries leading the way.
Be aware that this is a Jesuit trick, and their last ditch effort to start WW3.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Jesus. Theyre literally hijacking the NWOs plan. Genius really.
Dunno how they'll get away with it tho.
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
The Jesuits created the Illuminati in the late 18th Century (Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit) right after the Jesuit Suppression in 1773 when Pope Clement XIV kicked all the Jesuits out of Europe. So the Jesuits OWNED the Illuminati as a front company.
Since the Jesuits have been around since the 11th Century, they have far more infiltrated agents and more knowledge than the Illuminati, that's why they are beating them at such a high level right now. Think of the Illuminati as a breakaway LLC, and the parent company (Jesuits) destroying the LLC and creating a new LLC to replace it.
It's their last ditch effort. So don't feel bad when the media ruins Trump's reputation with all these slimy stories. Let them eat each other and ruin each other.
1 xxmissmiserxx 2018-01-19
It doesn't seem Q wants us to be on anyone's side, just trying to get us thinking and acting.
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
I doubt that. "Do you trust our president?" "Do you trust the military?"
1 xxmissmiserxx 2018-01-19
OH NO HE ASKED A QUESTION
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
We need to agree to disagree then. It was not how I interpreted it.
1 AaronWilde 2018-01-19
I think this recent memo thing going on is to side track the whole meteor storm thing happening. Somethings not right with these meteors and alarms going off and being reported all over.. this releasethememo shit is to distract us.. maybe not..maybe.. seems odd tho. Somethings up.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Everything seems odd and off these days. The old world order is not workin the way it used to. They are reckless. Disorganized. False flags seem even more fake than ever. Media doesn't even seem like media anymore.
It all feels wrong.
1 Old-neptune 2018-01-19
This is the natural progression of Western society and capitalism playing themselves out. These problems were less apparent before we had advanced tech, back when natural resources and careers were easier to find. Now we're all free-falling with very little shared culture to cling to. It's natural for a society like this to splinter when we have as many opinions as problems. You see it less in places like China, where they have a very strong cultural 'glue.'
And of course lots of conspiracies go on in the background to divert resources and control the populace, holding it all together. Some are also working to tear it all down for their own benefit. Figuring out who's on which side and how much you should worry about it is the tricky part.
1 xxmissmiserxx 2018-01-19
Tl;dr: If we embrace communism everything will be a ok
1 dj10show 2018-01-19
Ah yes, China. The home of cheap labor and abhorrent pollution. The whole world is fucked and it's because of human nature.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
I mean you no malice in my reply, but I see this as a natural progression of liberalism/demoralization playing itself out. "strength through diversity"? What then is the meaning of solidarity or unity? The embracing of homosexuality and the pedophilia that comes with it? All this stuff... is de-moralizing. Demoralization causes a dwindling of the lifeforce within us. God=life. Good/God=life-promoting. Sin=life demoting. We have become a sinful society. Ironically, a society of infidels. We bombed the shit out of the middle east because.... (enter the JQ). Our media tells lies. Lie after lie. It's insanity. And it's orchestrated. It's also foretold. Is this not like Babylon?
1 chase32 2018-01-19
What are you on about? homosexuality ≠ pedophilia.
Plenty of hetro pedos out there.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
Around 40% of pedophiles identify as bi-sexual or homosexual. So no, ≠, but there is a very high correlation. Makes sense, doesn't it? One sexual deviancy is a gateway to others. I've lived it, and it's obvious to most people.
1 chase32 2018-01-19
What a perverse agenda you have.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
The truth.
1 standard_armadillo 2018-01-19
Money is going on, it's a fight to the death to steal the wealth of the people and the planet.
There are a number of factions fighting for this wealth, they come from the left and the right; from manufacturing and oil and transportation and banking and politics. They are all fighting amongst themselves like two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner.
The wealth of the labor of the people is is on the menu. They want it.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
Power. When you're rich, it's no longer about money. It's about sex and virgins and children, power, war, the furthering of races, and the influencing of nations and people. Money is the tool for these goals.
1 FlipsideTripping 2018-01-19
YouTube David Wilcock - Downfall of the Cabal
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Will do thanks.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
What is the evidence for this claim?
1 Hambone_Malone 2018-01-19
None.
1 FlipsideTripping 2018-01-19
Not sure maybe the dude in teh video has some.
1 elcad 2018-01-19
1 chase32 2018-01-19
Love me some Jello.
1 lopestatus 2018-01-19
Wish I'd seen DKs when he was still singing. Great show either way!
1 chase32 2018-01-19
Not seeing them is a serious concert regret. Beyond their music his old spoken word albums used to blow my mind.
1 Lucy-Sky-Diamondz 2018-01-19
Learn to do everything yourself, go off the grid (or solar at the every least), learn to garden, shoot, hunt, fish, trap, etc how to build a cabin and buy yourself a car where you yourself can do all the work
1 skeeter1234 2018-01-19
I can't believe how right Biafra's worldview turned out to be.
1 Kingdomhearts123 2018-01-19
The more powerful pedophiles are preparing to sabotage lesser powerful pedophiles so as to escape justice
It's a big fancy limited hangout basically
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
That aspect I definitely believe.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
Why?
1 iHOPEimNOTanNPC 2018-01-19
Think of the crazy things that happen every day just amongst us average joes (murders,cereal killings,etc) now picture these things being done but by someone with billions of dollars and a hell of a lot of protection.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
'now picture' -- you mean imagine?
1 iHOPEimNOTanNPC 2018-01-19
Whatever word floats your boat👍🏻
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
The Government establishment is very, very corrupt. This includes both Republicans and Dems. Things have been corrupt for a long time, and they have only gotten worse.
TPTB want to keep their puppet government, and they want to keep it strong. So what do they do? Everything they can possibly get away with, if it means keeping anti-Establishment candidates from winning. This includes spying on them in order to get leverage over them, which is facilitated by abusing the FISA warrant process.
This time, their plan failed and Trump was elected. In order to handicap him, they created the Russia-Trump collusion narrative, and even got a couple people in his campaign indicted (on unrelated charges) to give the appearance of legitimacy.
At present, there is a war going on in our government. Its a war between TPTB and their puppet government, and between Trump and whoever he represents (hopefully We the People, but you never can be sure).
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
nailed it. More: who owns the media? (yes, even reddit) who is the media for, who is it against? who owns a huge chunk of the BIG BIG money in the world? what does money give you? what do people/organizations do when they don't get their way?
lastly, what is government? How is it achieved? How is societal change achieved?
1 ButtPlugington 2018-01-19
Please stop trying to be Q Anon.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
to be fair, I put a much more obvious set of questions up.
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
how annoying is it to read comments like this?
how talking like this make you feel?
does it make my opinion seem more credible if I pretend like I'm I'm in the know?
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
lol... sorry man, didn't mean to annoy
1 TaleOfCowards 2018-01-19
And how do we know Trump isn't their puppet? Instead of going after Hillary like he promised, he's going after marihuana. And cutting taxes for the elites. His populist message is a facade to keep the common man happy. TPTB saw the populist wave on both sides and decided to infiltrate it. We're on our own, and the sooner you realize that the better.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
Really? I haven't seen any actual Federal enforcement, have you?
I'm getting a nice tax cut. TIL I'm "elite."
I like most of what he is doing, actually. Far better than any recent President. Sorry to disappoint you, I guess.
1 Apryggen 2018-01-19
I want to have a beer with you.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
I'm sure I would enjoy that!
1 qqpeepeebuttbutt 2018-01-19
Donald isn't doing shit except being an ass. If you are republican or libertarian, fine but this dumb fuck is an embarassement.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
I'm not going to get into a political debate with you on r/conspiracy and I really don't care about your political opinion either. Suffice it to say that we disagree.
1 FreeTurtleMarket 2018-01-19
I think there is more proof that he is their puppet than not. He is 100% a plant
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
How can this be? Are you telling me that a reality TV star is NOT the real deal?
Are you telling me that a 'billionaire' is NOT standing up for the common man?
Damn, they got me again.
1 thedoughb 2018-01-19
Controlled opposition
1 goldmanstackss 2018-01-19
Like what?
1 elxbarto 2018-01-19
THANK YOU
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
I've heard a lot of people say he's a Jesuit. Which. I can believe. But. Can't confirm.
1 ArdensNohj 2018-01-19
Bullshit.
If this was true Trump would be dead by now. Four years of an inept clown matters not to them. The beat goes on unless the entire monetary system collapses.
And how the does Trump represent the common man when everything he has done so far benefits billionaires like himself?
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
Judging by your comment, I think you are probably too biased to genuinely consider what I'm saying. I'll leave you to your opinion, by I do agree that we need to end the Fed and excessive taxation.
1 ArdensNohj 2018-01-19
I'm really not biased, just incredibly pissed off that they couldn't even put in a wolf in sheep's clothing this time to at least pull the wool over my eyes. Trump is ruining my immersion.
1 Drugzrbad2 2018-01-19
In other words you can't back up your claims? Saying "you're obviously too biased to consider what I'm saying" is such a cop out.
1 ycfgyn 2018-01-19
horseshit
trump himself is a puppet. they picked someone who would create the biggest circus. Americans are focused on bullshit issues while tptb do their thing. its the same with obama. every one cried for hope and when he was elected it was like bush ver 3.0
look at how we are arming the Ukraine and still imposing sanctions on Russia despite trumps friendly rhetoric on Russia. its all a show for us dumb assess who care more what other garbage they can pump out with the starwars name than where our tax money is going.
there is no war going on in government, only a live drama with all our favorite (read:elected) actors.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
Trump is a puppet, except he is under constant desperate attack by the puppet masters. Doesn't seem logical, I can't believe that.
1 ycfgyn 2018-01-19
its a SHOW. these are not real attacks, only distractions.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
I disagree. Do you think that the Mueller investigation part of the show, or is it a legitimate investigation. I'm genuinely curious.
1 ycfgyn 2018-01-19
its definitely part of the show. its been a long investigation and only low level players will be tossed under the bus. when tptb decide they are done with trump they will dispose of him like they have with other presidents in the past
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
I agree that the Mueller investigation is for show. What do you think the intention is, though? That's probably where we disagree.
1 ycfgyn 2018-01-19
the intention is just....tension. our government plays out an elaborate drama and the more arms they have to distract us the better!
1 Hambone_Malone 2018-01-19
I pretty much agree with you in this entire thread.
1 CountFarussi 2018-01-19
False, Trump realizes the reason people like JFK, MLK were taken out.
They unified people. Trump knows if he's polarizing enough, maintains the dissonance, that the establishment will not remove him.
There is no war because the deep state doesn't need Trump removed. If he were out trying to bring people together en masse against the swamp; he'd be gone yesterday. He know's what he's doing.
1 goldmanstackss 2018-01-19
One red pill at a time. He knows the long game.
1 FreeTurtleMarket 2018-01-19
Or his is their fake anti-establishment candidate that they are using to show how a political novice is trash. Not sure how billionaire who has been involved in politics for 40 years is anti-Establishment
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
I don't think the establishment wanted Trump to be elected, and I also think Trump never truly want to be president. Forget Russia, the guy has been absolutely atrocious at his job. He's doing more harm to the country than your average elected puppet. Fuck
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
Man, I just see things so differently than you. I think he clearly wanted to win and he has surpassed my expectations as President already. Anyway, now we're just getting into pure politics.
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
lmao our country is fucked
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
Don't worry, you will grow out of this phase! I'm embarrassed to say that I voted for Obama. Now that was a mistake! Trump is such an improvement.
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
Hey man I've got tons of relatives who are just like you. Think they've pulled a fast one on the government and the President is their inside guy. I've never voted Dem and never will. I had been working in politics when Obama was elected (didn't vote for him either) and the shit I saw made my milk curdle. If you catch my drift.
Trump IS an improvement in the long run. Similarly to how a good forest fire will clear out the underbrush...Trump and the tide that brought him is going to run America so hard into the ground that the humbling will do us good. Spoil the rod spare the child as it says in the Bible and boy is America due for a good woopin'.
1 Peyton_Farquhar 2018-01-19
Lol. Look no further than the fucking Tax Bill that Trump signed. He and the GOP are, and have always been, concerned about only 1 thing: money.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
The one that's saving me, my friends and my family a whole lot of money? That Tax Bill?
1 Peyton_Farquhar 2018-01-19
If $16 a paycheck is "a lot" to you, then sure.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
Huh? No, I’ll save ~$3K next year. If you actually paid taxes, I’ll bet you would appreciate it too.
1 Peyton_Farquhar 2018-01-19
Have you tried using a Tax Calculator to see what you'll actually be saving? Most likely it's 2% or less AFTER taxes. According to this calculator, my taxes are actually going UP.
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
I've already discussed it with my accountant. I'm not sure how your taxes will go up. Are you not going to take the standard deduction? You must have a pretty unique situation.
1 Peyton_Farquhar 2018-01-19
My wife and I make over 125k combined. We file jointly and itemize because we're small business owners. And we live in California. This tax bill fucks the middle class and small business owners to give permanent tax breaks to large corporations, capital managers, real estate developers and the highest income bracket.
1 k722 2018-01-19
Billionaires got their tax cuts on the backs of the working class and future generations and the Pentagon got billions more a year, even more than they asked for, while America is crumbling. What is going on? The same old shit.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
America is not crumbling economically. Everyone got a tax break, so fuck off with that. Reason why is that Republicans won't get elected if they don't put the country into debt further, just as the democrats do. Each party gives handouts, they just give them out differently. One is social programs, other is cash/less taxes. One equals more government, the other less. Best thing you can do is stand up for truth and stay sane. Also be kind to each other.
1 k722 2018-01-19
Almost half of the tax cut goes to the richest 1% and by 2027 80% of the tax cut goes to the richest 1%. The rich own most stocks and the recent boom is built on a deregulation bubble that will burst - and will burst big. Adding $1.4 trillion to the national debt isn't worth it if most Americans will get crumbs compared to the rich and the powerful.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
Buy stocks, dude, but be ready to bail on them and/or set stop loss. DFEN, YINN...stuff like that... ;) I'm up huge on them.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
You are wrong anyways, see: https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/comments/7rc7wy/poll_finds_upturn_in_sentiment_on_tax_overhaul/
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1 k722 2018-01-19
Weak source. Very weak source.
1 rickgene 2018-01-19
This four page memo is supposed to lead to Obama's, Hillary's, Comey's and Mueller's arrest, detail how the DNC conspired with the Russians to try to prevent Trump from winning the 2016 election and prove that there was no Trump collusion with the Russians and that the whole dossier was a fake. I hope they used a small font, 4 pages sure doesn't seem like a lot.
1 garyp714 2018-01-19
Because the memo is Devin Nunes' summary of the supposed allegations.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Alright while that would be earth shaking. But. Is it actually going to happen?
1 GoldenTruth 2018-01-19
Also - this thread being less than an hour old, having 37 comments, and being at 0 points.
Wtf is going on, indeed.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Almost 2k views and almost 60 comments.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
Sometimes I wonder, how many legitimate users really are there on this sub?
1 chase32 2018-01-19
You hang out here long enough, you recognise the writing style more than the username.
Between people too keen on winning an argument and paid posters, i'd say barely over half are organic.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
I think one of the main problems is that even well-meaning people generally have no idea about critical thinking, because it is not taught in school.
1 chase32 2018-01-19
If you have had a child in school recently, you know it goes far beyond not teaching critical thinking. They create harsh unpredictable unenforceable rules that seem designed to create a high level of cognitive compliance.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-19
Yes indeed. One wonders why any awake person would send to their child to school in the first place.
1 chase32 2018-01-19
To my mind, you aren't doing your kids any favors by keeping them away from the battleground they will eventually need to master. That said, not all schools are created equal. I have shopped heavily and pulled mine out of more than one.
1 Quietabandon 2018-01-19
The person that replied to you, step2thejep is John le bon and he jsut linked to a video he himself produced. He is trying to promote his paid website ($20+/mo) and his youtube channel so he tries to insert links to conspiracy threads. He exclusively links to his own content.
His views are nonsensical, his style of debate starts by asking some question about one of your points and the he will condescend, move goal posts, demand impossible proof for your points while demanding none for his own, misapply/ misunderstand science, and link to his own videos.
He is shilling for his own channel/ site.
1 chase32 2018-01-19
I didn't know who he really was but I knew it was an alt of a problem person I seem to run into a lot lately. One of his softer personas.
Thanks for the heads up.
1 Quietabandon 2018-01-19
Glance through his comment hx, in addition to being the worst kind of noxious debater, he just exclusively and often randomly links to his videos... but pretends to be someone else who happened on this video.
1 chase32 2018-01-19
Tough to prove but I think he also makes contentious posts and then creates argument threads between his alts to try and get them out of new.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Me too.
1 IanPhlegming 2018-01-19
Big Picture:
An awakening is taking place. Some sort of global consciousness shift. The people who have had access to "hidden knowledge" and "the mysteries" know that this ascension shift is coming, and have been putting as many people and narratives in place to derail it.
The ruling paradigm, of the West at least, is a cabal of satanic pedophiles. It looks to me like, at the top of the food chain, is worship of Moloch. I think this because of all the child abuse and sacrifice (and yes, I count abortion as child sacrifice). Moloch is blesses these people for a while, but ultimately they become fodder as well when their usefulness is done.
Nationally, one of two things is happening:
One: A counter-force to the Moloch types has finally gotten its shit together in the past decade or so and is finally pushing back. They are good and decent, and even though they have to make some compromises, their overall motivations are benevolent.
Two: The counterforce is just as evil, if not more so, than the current controlling paradigm. Considering how evil the current paradigm is, this seems difficult to believe. I tend to think they are slightly less evil, that they're not on board with all the child raping/killing.
Trump is no hero, he's a figurehead for the counterforce group, who needed a "name," a "persona" everybody knows. He's mostly there to distract from the real heavy shit that's going down, and the media plays along.
It's possible all this is merely theater, entertainment before the asteroid hits or the solar wave fries all the electronics.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
(((the media))) ...of the same blood as Rothchilds
same blood that owns this very website. %Just who's side has the media been on? It's difficult at first. It's like a dog suddenly smelling something unpleasant, the urine of a bigger more voracious animal, but if one asks himself, ...what is the JQ
1 petedacook 2018-01-19
WTF are you talking about? The top posts are about that FISA memo which is allegedly about how corrupt some 3 letter agencies and government is.
You don't think /r/politics would allow any discussion about the memo, do you?
1 ManIsBornFree 2018-01-19
Signals and noise.
First assessment, source and pattern of compentancy
Second, oceans razor and probability of pattern
Third, patterns mean everything
This means, look for reasonable patterns of probability to deduce a truth value for your argument; the larger the scope of the assessment, the greater degree of missing the mark, in knowing info you’re not supposed to know
1 frequentlywrong 2018-01-19
I think all empires have an expiration date and they die by rotting from within. The US is in its terminal stages.
1 qqpeepeebuttbutt 2018-01-19
It's funny because the founders looked to Rome and ask themselves why the empire fell and then they used Lessons Learned From that to build resiliency in the system. I believe they thought corruption was the cause.
1 frequentlywrong 2018-01-19
I agree with them. I'm not so sure you can build resilliancy into the system to avoid it however.
1 KrazyKiwiKid 2018-01-19
Someone has hacked the matrix
1 ehll_oh_ehll 2018-01-19
TPTB have figured out how effective it is to use the internet to spread propaganda. This is what Post-Truth looks like in reality.
1 PrussianBot 2018-01-19
Hardcore shilling on this sub. The worst is coming from the hordes of r/politics and r/worldnews assets. If you take a look at subs like these you will see that they are entirely taken over by corporate media and they are turning redditors into their personal army to subvert non conforming subreddits like this one. Just read the comment sections on these subs, the people are totally radicalized and irrational from the constant consumption of corporate propaganda.
1 analglandjuice 2018-01-19
I don’t know, but I want shit to crumble. I’m sick of teetering on the edge these days.
Just get on with it, do the war, try to spy on us, whatever. Get it over with so we can start over without you crooked fucks.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
Yea. Agreeed.
1 goldmanstackss 2018-01-19
This is exactly what they want. A weak and vulnerable societal mindset. Low morale. Desperate.
I’m not saying you are, and I agree with the underlying message of your post, but we have to keep fighting. This is our country after all.
1 cm18 2018-01-19
SyOp against the American people. Persuasion at a grand master's level.
QAnon is probably a LARP for the conspiracy minded. The illusion, however, is being shattered.
Why would Democrats vote for the Re-Auth if they think the president may be a Russian plant? Why would a President that is at war with the deep state sing the Re-Auth continuing the deep state's power?!? The narrative is shattered. Those on the Trump train are not going to be able to mend the shattering illusion.
1 Muffikins 2018-01-19
Psyop. From "psychological. "
1 madeanotheraccount 2018-01-19
Sometimes it feels like there's a delicate balance between TPTB's control and plans vs outright revolt by the population. Sometimes things seem to tip a little too far either way, thngs look like they're going to stray into unharmonious territory, and resources are put into play to bring things back into balance so the sheep can keep on being sheep.
For instance, when there's something that pisses off the population and makes them sit up and take notice (profiteering, war crimes, overreach, erosion of rights, whatever) TPTB say, "We can't have that! Distract them so they go back to watching the Kardashians! Make Donald say something controversial again! Fuck that mayor over in that little podunk town with some big scandal! Hint at something so people look elsewhere!"
1 BeshizzleAGenizzle 2018-01-19
A shit storm of epic proportions.
1 hockeyislife91 2018-01-19
The most powerful members (high priests) of secret societies have been working behind the veil, out of the public eye, to bring about a new world order here on this Earth
1 Straightfromthe 2018-01-19
Most importantly, be aware of the war in Iran they are trying to start right now, with Erik Prince and private mercenaries leading the way.
Be aware that this is a Jesuit trick, and their last ditch effort to start WW3.
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
nailed it. More: who owns the media? (yes, even reddit) who is the media for, who is it against? who owns a huge chunk of the BIG BIG money in the world? what does money give you? what do people/organizations do when they don't get their way?
lastly, what is government? How is it achieved? How is societal change achieved?
1 timstolt1 2018-01-19
(((the media))) ...of the same blood as Rothchilds
same blood that owns this very website. %Just who's side has the media been on? It's difficult at first. It's like a dog suddenly smelling something unpleasant, the urine of a bigger more voracious animal, but if one asks himself, ...what is the JQ
1 TaleOfCowards 2018-01-19
And how do we know Trump isn't their puppet? Instead of going after Hillary like he promised, he's going after marihuana. And cutting taxes for the elites. His populist message is a facade to keep the common man happy. TPTB saw the populist wave on both sides and decided to infiltrate it. We're on our own, and the sooner you realize that the better.
1 Weareone2 2018-01-19
I've heard a lot of people say he's a Jesuit. Which. I can believe. But. Can't confirm.
1 ButtPlugington 2018-01-19
Please stop trying to be Q Anon.
1 ArdensNohj 2018-01-19
Bullshit.
If this was true Trump would be dead by now. Four years of an inept clown matters not to them. The beat goes on unless the entire monetary system collapses.
And how the does Trump represent the common man when everything he has done so far benefits billionaires like himself?
1 ycfgyn 2018-01-19
horseshit
trump himself is a puppet. they picked someone who would create the biggest circus. Americans are focused on bullshit issues while tptb do their thing. its the same with obama. every one cried for hope and when he was elected it was like bush ver 3.0
look at how we are arming the Ukraine and still imposing sanctions on Russia despite trumps friendly rhetoric on Russia. its all a show for us dumb assess who care more what other garbage they can pump out with the starwars name than where our tax money is going.
there is no war going on in government, only a live drama with all our favorite (read:elected) actors.
1 FreeTurtleMarket 2018-01-19
Or his is their fake anti-establishment candidate that they are using to show how a political novice is trash. Not sure how billionaire who has been involved in politics for 40 years is anti-Establishment
1 RareOmen 2018-01-19
I agree that the Mueller investigation is for show. What do you think the intention is, though? That's probably where we disagree.
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
I don't think the establishment wanted Trump to be elected, and I also think Trump never truly want to be president. Forget Russia, the guy has been absolutely atrocious at his job. He's doing more harm to the country than your average elected puppet. Fuck
1 Imsomniland 2018-01-19
lmao our country is fucked
1 Peyton_Farquhar 2018-01-19
Lol. Look no further than the fucking Tax Bill that Trump signed. He and the GOP are, and have always been, concerned about only 1 thing: money.