Luciferan Satanism is good.
0 2018-01-20 by unable-to-ascertain
Disclaimer: I am not of any religious affiliation. I simply enjoy theology and appreciate the teachings and literary value of many religions. This is just my take after spending some time to learn a bit about Lucifer.
Premise A: The Church has had a very powerful influence over the course of history
Premise B: The Church has used its power to manipulate society and form core values.
Premise C: The stories and values conveyed in the Bible are used to enact Premise B
With these premises is mind, I want to examine the story and character of Lucifer. Lucifer, also called the Morning Star and the Bringer of Light, was an angel who was cast out of Heaven by God. Why? Disobedience. Lucifer enacted his own free will to go against God's command. He chose not to bow to Humanity during Genesis, and refused to be subject to Christ the Son. In the canon of the Church, Lucifer (or Satan) is known and accepted as a rebel. As punishment for his dissent, Lucifer and his army were cast into Hell for all eternity. In a further act of rebellion against God, he assumes the form of a serpent to tempt Eve into eating the fruit of knowledge, thus enacting original sin and dooming humanity in the eyes of God, until Christ comes to redeem the souls of man.
So what does this have to do with my premises? Well, I think it shows a lot about what values the Church wants to inspire in people, and what they want to make taboo. The ultimate enemy of God is Satan. Satan, above all else, represents rebellion. To rebel is to oppose the establishment. To rebel is to take a stand against objectionable systematic institutions. Satan is an icon of choice, freedom, and independence. He is the one who does not submit. Who refuses to be ruled. Who stands beside his choice even through eternal agony. What could be worse for an institution with monstrous social influence than dissent? What could be worse for an emperor than rebellion? Since the fall of Rome, the Church has demonized those who speak out, who choose to stand against the establishment, and those who do not fall in line. The enemy of the Church is no devil, it is free will and knowledge. Further, Lucifer's enacting of Original Sin cements the requirement of the Church to provide salvation. If you accept the teachings of the Church, you are then required to follow their rules to be saved. If you are a ruler, this little loop lets you exalt the Church to create compliant citizens, lest they end up like Lucifer.
In this contemporary era, the Church is obviously not at its peak of influence (although the vast majority of oaths in the US, including that of the President, are sworn over a Bible). In fact, opposing the Church in 2018 is pretty much normal. So perhaps Satanism isn't really a great reaction to the modern social landscape. However, Lucifer as a character strikes a kinship in me as a conspiracy theorist as well as an avid seeker of knowledge. We are all rebels of thought. We refuse to submit our minds to the established narrative. We come to this page of the internet in search of knowledge, so we may eat the fruit and willingly leave the nice, soft Garden behind. For me, Lucifer r epresents enlightenment and a welcoming into the true reality. He also had great hair.
26 comments
1 ShodanBan 2018-01-20
Off topic?
1 itsthetruthbitch 2018-01-20
i was just thinking of making a post called "luciferan satanism is not good"
1 pby1000 2018-01-20
Please do.
1 itsthetruthbitch 2018-01-20
maybe i will then.
1 pby1000 2018-01-20
Sure! It is an interesting and important topic to understand world events.
1 orionquest2016 2018-01-20
The Church of Satan would agree, as they describe their ideology as rebellious and atheistic.
1 Fizrock 2018-01-20
Yeah, they don't even believe in Satan.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-20
Satan" doesn't care if you believe in him/it as long as you're following all "his" principles. Worship of the self as God, no belief in any objective morals or values, do what thou wilt.
Ironically, those are all the principles that those who do believe in "Satan" follow.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-20
Thank you as this has inspired a new post for me tonight ; )
1 Otto-von-Bolschitt 2018-01-20
10/10 propaganda, I gotta say
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-20
You assume that true Christianity has anything to do with any "Church."
1 TheCIASellsDrugs 2018-01-20
You mean I shouldn't trust that Roman institution that rapes all the little boys and ran drugs for the CIA in Europe? Or the televangelists like Pat Robertson, Binny Hinn, and Robert Schuller that are Freemasons out to fleece everyone for their tax-free donations?
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-20
Nope. Pretty sure Jesus himself would be flipping all their tables and damning them to hell personally.
1 anunknind 2018-01-20
I bet you think one-world totalitarian socialist goverment is good, too. The worship of primordial knowing is fundamentally flawed and men are not gods no matter how hard they try to be.
1 pby1000 2018-01-20
People are so easily deceived. The whole planet will be like NK.
You are right.
1 LOST1992 2018-01-20
I could fuck with that had they changed their names from Luciferan Satanism. Those terms are always connected to some evil, disturbing shit that I want nothing to do with. And I'm not even a religious person.
1 venCiere 2018-01-20
Except that Satan deceived eve by lying to her about God’s words of caution, that she would, indeed, die. He tricked her into acting against her own interest bec he hated God’s special creation —man. In this this way, he condemned man to live without God. He blatantly LIED about the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit, not to impart knowledge, but to steal, kill and destroy. So, stop crediting Lucifer with grandiose and good intentions. All he wanted was to kill mankind out of overwhelming hatred.
God is not ‘the establishment.’ He is pure and true goodness and love. If you believe what Satan is selling, you have also been deceived.
1 pby1000 2018-01-20
Fremasons admit they are lied to and deceived from the very beginning, yet they remain in Freemasonry. They are a bunch of tools.
1 TheCIASellsDrugs 2018-01-20
This is Satan's side of the story.
God's side of the story is that he created Satan and all of the angels. Then they rebelled against him for no fucking reason. Then they tricked all the humans into going along with it, causing them to experience death and suffering.
Then they went down and started fucking the humans and creating blood-drinking, cannibalistic giants and genetic hybrids that so terrorized the inhabitants of the earth that God had to wipe them all off the face of the earth with a flood and save the few humans that weren't genetically corrupted by fucking demons on a giant boat with the few animals that weren't corrupted by fucking said demons.
Then God sent his son to try to make it all right, and Satan murdered him for no fucking reason, finally proving that Satan is actually the asshole, not God.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-20
Have all my fake Reddit gold.
1 pby1000 2018-01-20
This. I thought Lucifer rebelled because he did not respect God, and thought he was too childlike. Lucifer wants to rule the Earth and anslave humanity. This is the NWO.
The people who are Satanists and Luciferians, such as the Freemasons, are being used to further the NWO agenda. They will be disposed of once the agenda is accomplished. They will know too much and no longer be needed.
1 dickjokesauce 2018-01-20
I think you mix up actors like the Church and Lucifer with your real point - the value of free will. These are totally separate things. The various value narratives around the aforementioned actors is all over place, and one can't come to any useful conclusions because the premise is always sketchy. So I'd toss out the ideas of the Church, Christ, Lucifer, and all that shit, and ignore them. And I'd focus on the question of free will.
Free will is both bad and good. It's in having free will that one can discern better designs and worse designs. That's probably the point of it. The application of free will in opposition to things whose truth cannot be doubted (eg. 1+1=2) is where maybe the concept itself starts to have problems. A needless rebel, rebelling against known and undeniable truths creates problems. The facility of rebellion is fine, as long as it's applied well. That's the problem. Where Lucifer sits on this spectrum, I have no idea. All I've heard are people reiterating what others have said. Who the hell knows what the real story is. But if the character of Lucifer stands for the quality of rebellion absent contextual considerations, then sure, the archetype is in the wrong.
1 RedditHelpsEnslaveUs 2018-01-20
Sexually transmitted disease and testicular cancer is good as well.
1 facelessnature 2018-01-20
Lucifer ≠ Satan.
1 NunyoBizwacks 2018-01-20
Luciferan, satanism whatever you want to call it represents duality and severance. Having one thing devided into two promotes conflict and war.
Godliness, or holiness (wholiness), are representations of into and completeness. When one realizes the continuity of all and how the dark is just as much the light as the light is dark (as in they are inseparable and depend on each other for existance) then you can have balance. It is the whole ideology of meeting your enemy with love because they are you.
It is to realize in war you are ultimately fighting your other hand and to completely irradicate and destroy the opposition would mean to destroy your self in the process.
Lucifarien cults are rot with anarchy and destruction of unity and balance. However they should not be eliminated as like anything that contradicts the good, it gives us perspective in why we are trying to fight for the balance of everything to be slightly pulling towards the good and why we should build a strong defense to keep the balance intact.
1 tastygoods 2018-01-20
ITT not one that has the full story correct.
With a true heart. Read your sources. Stand in awe.
1 mr_excitement 2018-01-20
If you look into the Sumerian creation story, which the Bible "borrowed" heavily from, with Enki/Lucifer and Enlil/Yahweh things should begin to make sense.
1 pby1000 2018-01-20
Sure! It is an interesting and important topic to understand world events.