This doesn't really answer your question but I thought this was interesting. I recently went back to school and in one of my classes we have to right a paper on "fake news." One of the first prompts is about pizzagate and how the "fake news" got out of hand and ended up leading to a shooting based around false pretenses. It's not even a discussion as to whether or not it's fake news, it's under the "confirmed list" of "fake news" stories that we have to choose from. This is a statewide curriculum as I understand it for a master's program
I guess it depends on what country you’re referring to. I have noticed a lot more stories in the news in the last year coming out about human trafficking rings being broken up and taken down.
As someone who lives in South Florida, we see plenty of child exploitation arrests go down in Polk County. Sheriff Judd seems to have so many of these busts it’s almost routine to the point of being suspicious.
It’s certainly no conspiracy theory
It’s FACT
They think that if the worm hole is opened the majority of the population couldn’t handle it.
Peoples brains refuse to believe that other humans (especially if in a powerful position) are capable of such sickness.
People would rather think it’s scare mongering than actually believe the truth.
That’s why they call it red pilling but drip by drip. I showed a friend the Posesta art and he just said turn it off it’s sick. How can you look at that!
I said it’s real n people need to wake up because until everyone thinks like me kids are going to continue to be sacrificed
My best friend is anti-conspiracy. Well, he was until I showed him the PG executive summary. When he got to the art, he was convinced. Now he has all kinds of questions about everything. It's great!
Does Pizzagate have any actual concrete evidence? Actual victims? Any testimony or support from law-officials? Or is it still just general hatred of the Clinton's and Democratic party disguised as a concern over "suspicious" Instagram photos and taken-out-of-context e-mails?
Human trafficking does EXIST and needs to be combated. But Pizzagate is a 4chan fantasy.
This is the problem - you conflate Pizzagate with relatively REAL examples of real abuse.
The Dutroux Affair refers to a real set of crimes. It has REAL perpetrators, REAL victims, and REAL legal testimony.
The Franklin Scandal, famously depicted in 'Conspiracy of Silence', also has REAL perpetrators, REAL victims, and REAL legal testimony.
Pizzagate has none of this - again, your link sends me to nothing more than hyped up "concern" over so-called suspicious art, Instagram posts and e-mails that are taken out of context.
Do you not realize that none of this would ever hold up in a courtroom?
Pizzagate has none of this - again, your link sends me to nothing more than hyped up "concern" over so-called suspicious art, Instagram posts and e-mails that are taken out of context.
You haven't read the links I gave you. If you did you would see this is more than out of context BS. Pgate is intimately connected with Dutroux and Franklin, it is the continuation. These cases didn't happen in a vacuum, were covered up, and didn't just "end". To believe they did is incredibly naive.
Do you not realize that none of this would ever hold up in a courtroom?
Do you realize that if this much circumstantial evidence had been found concerning an unimportant citizen that the police would have already opened an investigation?
You haven't read the links I gave you. If you did you would see this is more than out of context BS. Pgate is intimately connected with Dutroux and Franklin, it is the continuation. These cases didn't happen in a vacuum, were covered up, and didn't just "end". To believe they did is incredibly naive.
I'm very familiar with the Pizzagate "evidence" - it's associated with spirit cooking and pizza symbols and Lady Gaga. It is blatantly ridiculous and is patently dangerous. You cannot accuse others of a crime if THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF SAID CRIME. I do not see any convincing arguments that attempt to connect Pizzagate with Dutroux/Franklin. Again, the only "evidence" cited is trumped up accusations based on nothing more than the same stupid photos, paintings and language.
Do you realize that if this much circumstantial evidence had been found concerning an unimportant citizen that the police would have already opened an investigation?
You didn't answer the question. And are you f-ing kidding me? Every day, REAL abusers get a free pass from the legal system because of circumstantial evidence. They get OFF because someone forgot to file paperwork or submit testimony. Cases where there are REAL victims and REAL testimony often get tossed out because of various legal red tape. But you honestly think something birthed off the bright minds at 4chan would actually be a slam dunk in the courts? Jesus...
I'm very familiar with the Pizzagate "evidence" - it's associated with spirit cooking and pizza symbols and Lady Gaga. It is blatantly ridiculous and is patently dangerous.
That's not it at all. Your ignorance is showing, whether it is genuine or not I do not know. But you aren't as familiar with this as you think you are if that's what you think it's all about, LOL.
You cannot accuse others of a crime if THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF SAID CRIME
You can look into their public life, profiles, statements, and associations. Especially when the police won't. There's nothing illegal about that. This is all public info bud.
I do not see any convincing arguments that attempt to connect Pizzagate with Dutroux/Franklin. Again, the only "evidence" cited is trumped up accusations based on nothing more than the same stupid photos, paintings and language.
Lol "trumped up evidence" " same stupid photos and paintings". You haven't looked at this stuff at all. Especially with a statement like that, it betrays you. You should take some time to read it, but I know you won't.
You didn't answer the question. And are you f-ing kidding me? Every day, REAL abusers get a free pass from the legal system because of circumstantial evidence. They get OFF because someone forgot to file paperwork or submit testimony. Cases where there are REAL victims and REAL testimony often get tossed out because of various legal red tape. But you honestly think something birthed off the bright minds at 4chan would actually be a slam dunk in the courts? Jesus...
So many distractions and innuendos! Nice job! I answered your question with my question, which you understand but choose to ignore. And while other people are getting off on technicalities, our own elite are getting off because of the corrupted police, courts, and higher echelons of government. Dutroux and Franklin show how the cover up is done. And again- if all of this circumstantial evidence was found on an unimportant citizen, their local PD would be investigating.
While it's kind of cute that you insist on calling me "bud" and questioning my intelligence, it really just goes to show what results from just about EVERY discussion surrounding Pizzagate. People ask for evidence - evidence doesn't exist so proponents of the theory just claim you're "stupid", "ignorant" or somehow supportive of child abuse. It gets old.
You can look into their public life, profiles, statements, and associations. Especially when the police won't. There's nothing illegal about that. This is all public info bud.
Nobody suggested that it was illegal and/or private information. It's just kind of sad use of your time, to be honest. Again - you want to help REAL victims of child abuse? Go get your Social Work degree and go work with CPS...don't waste your time playing armchair investigator.
Lol "trumped up evidence" " same stupid photos and paintings". You haven't looked at this stuff at all. Especially with a statement like that, it betrays you. You should take some time to read it, but I know you won't.
Can you please suggest to me evidence that IS NOT stupid photos/painting/e-mails from Podesta? You keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about but you haven't offered anything to suggest the contrary.
So many distractions and innuendos! Nice job! I answered your question with my question, which you understand but choose to ignore. And while other people are getting off on technicalities, our own elite are getting off because of the corrupted police, courts, and higher echelons of government. Dutroux and Franklin show how the cover up is done. And again- if all of this circumstantial evidence was found on an unimportant citizen, their local PD would be investigating.
So, um, you realize you still didn't answer the original question, right? Answering a question with a question is what children who don't know any better do.
While it's kind of cute that you insist on calling me "bud" and questioning my intelligence, it really just goes to show what results from just about EVERY discussion surrounding Pizzagate. People ask for evidence - evidence doesn't exist so proponents of the theory just claim you're "stupid", "ignorant" or somehow supportive of child abuse. It gets old.
I didn't question your intelligence. Ignorance doesn't have to do with being smart. It has to do with being aware of the facts, which you clearly are not. I also didn't say you supported abuse, nice strawman tho, bud!
Nobody suggested that it was illegal and/or private information. It's just kind of sad use of your time, to be honest. Again - you want to help REAL victims of child abuse? Go get your Social Work degree and go work with CPS...don't waste your time playing armchair investigator.
Typical insults always leveled against citizen activists. Nice job bud.
Can you please suggest to me evidence that IS NOT stupid photos/painting/e-mails from Podesta? You keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about but you haven't offered anything to suggest the contrary.
I've offered you everything you need and more. And you choose to remain willfully ignorant. I know you haven't read what I gave you, because there's a ton of reading involved. You think you understand but you really, really don't lol.
So, um, you realize you still didn't answer the original question, right? Answering a question with a question is what children who don't know any better do.
I did answer the question, with my question. It is a form of rhetorical response. You know this, you choose to ignore it, like many other things.
I didn't question your intelligence. Ignorance doesn't have to do with being smart. It has to do with being aware of the facts, which you clearly are not. I also didn't say you supported abuse, nice strawman tho, bud!
I never suggested you accused me of supporting abuse - I said that proponents of the theory often resort to that when cornered by requests for real evidence. Also, in no way did my comment suggest a strawman argument.
Nobody suggested that it was illegal and/or private information. It's just kind of sad use of your time, to be honest. Again - you want to help REAL victims of child abuse? Go get your Social Work degree and go work with CPS...don't waste your time playing armchair investigator.
Typical insults always leveled against citizen activists. Nice job bud.
Citizen activists? Because you sit around and spam Conspiracy boards about "creepy" e-mail exchanges and pizza slices? In my neck of the woods, we don't call that citizen activism - we call that being bored and willingly immature.
I've offered you everything you need and more. And you choose to remain willfully ignorant. I know you haven't read what I gave you, because there's a ton of reading involved. You think you understand but you really, really don't lol.
You've offered me nothing other than the same re-hashed arguments courtesy of 4chan and voat. Again, do you have any real evidence or just your "gut feeling" that the Clintons were dismembering babies in a pizza restaurant basement?
I did answer the question, with my question. It is a form of rhetorical response. You know this, you choose to ignore it, like many other things. Have a good day bud!
Rhetoric is relied upon when the speaker realizes he or she has nothing else to hold up as support. Again, you have no interest in responding to the question because you realize there is no answer - all you know is all of those creepy photos MUST mean children are really being abused! Oh, and you have a great day too, "bud"!
Wrong on oh so many counts. But This thread has been rule 12'd and you have shown your true colors. This conversation is done bud, have a good one out there lol.
The youtube video isn't just any video bud, it's an actual documentary that was banned from airing on national TV. It interviews Paul Bonacci and Alicia Owens, two children heavily involved int he Franklin Scandal, and John DeCamp, the lawyer for it all and advocate.
The Voat links are heavily sourced and if you bothered to read them, which I know you didn't, you would know that. Attacking a source w/o reading it is the sign of a weak mind.
The documentary was NOT banned. It wouldn't be so readily available on Youtube if it was banned. Is there some serious concern about who bought the rights and pulled it at the last moment? Absolutely - but calling it "banned" is blatantly false.
So, because something wasn't aired on national TV equates it to being banned? That's a pretty extreme definition - and I'm not being obtuse. You want to be taken seriously? Use the correct words to support your argument, not rhetoric.
Was "obtuse" the word of the day on dictionary.com or something? Again, I'm not being obtuse - I'm asking you to be accurate in your statements. The documentary was not banned. The rights were purchased and pulled at the last moment - this is concerning and certainly reason enough to consider it suspicious. But banned it was not.
We forget that just because we're on the internet, doesn't mean that we don't have to be held accountable for the bullshit we spew.
Oh wow lol. If you think Franklin was a made up story...you really don't have a clue. I highly recommend you watch that documentary, maybe even read John DeCamps book? I know you wont.
Owens spent time for perjury because she refused to recant the testimony of her abuse...after the FBI turned Paul Bonacci, who later recanted the testimony the FBI forced him to make. You need to watch the documentary. Alicia Owens was telling the Truth and it's why she was silenced.
That's actually a fair critique - as concerning as the Franklin scandal is, I'll gladly admit that there are several holes and issues with credibility. However, there's enough legal testimony to suggest that something illegal and unethical occurred. I wouldn't recommend DeCamp's book because he isn't the most credible source - however, Nick Bryant's book is actually pretty well written and well sourced.
For what it's worth, I have no real opinion on O'Brien as I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to know one way or the other. But I'm pretty sure she wasn't attached to Pizzagate. MKUltra is another thing entirely, however.
Child trafficking.
Pizza gate
Comet ping ping
Mk ultra
Celebrities
Politicians
Satanic rituals
Bohemian grove
Panama papers
Planned parenthood
All linked
Thats not even touched the sides!
Child trafficking is not a game, you are correct. REAL children are being harmed, abused, murdered. That is precisely why we need to speak about these issues with maturity and logic...
...but - and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - no children (or even parents of children) have come forward to accuse the players in Pizzagate of abuse, no? So, when you say children are being put through horrific torture as evidenced by Pizzagate, my response would be, okay, what children are you speaking of?
Children from disaster areas are taken and just presumed dead.
Have you seen the footage of the woman leading the child into the house that backs onto the museum???
There’s lots of evidence that this is going on.
Obummer ordering 65,000 dollars worth of hotdogs and cheese pizza delivered to the WH
And what is so strange about hot dogs, especially for an event entitled "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"? Is the 65K an example of child trafficking or just wasteful government spending?
So, no response to the legitimate debunking of your claim about the "woman leading the child into the house that backs onto the museum"?
And are you seriously calling me insane because I don't find it illogical that people might want to be served hot dogs at a function that is LITERALLY called "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"? Again, I'll cave on the 65K - that's just f-ing ridiculous and a waste of taxpayer money. But it's not a smoking gun.
65k is a waste of tax payers money???
You are deluded if you are trying to say this is not happening.
And you say I’m immature?
You could be right.
But your issues are a lot heavier than my immaturity if you really believe they bought food.
65k is a waste of tax payers money???
You are deluded if you are trying to say this is not happening.
And you say I’m immature?
You could be right.
But your issues are a lot heavier than my immaturity if you really believe they bought food.
Yes, spending sixty-five thousand dollars on food for a social event is a waste of tax-payer money. Personally, I think tax-payer money should be used for more important things like, say, efforts to combat the trafficking of children.
Pizzagate is a hodgepodge of smear campaigns, trolling, speculative evidence, and sunken cost syndrome. I have yet to see any solid objective evidence in the case.
Wrong on oh so many counts. But This thread has been rule 12'd and you have shown your true colors. This conversation is done bud, have a good one out there lol.
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1 CaptainApollyon 2018-01-25
The national parks don't keep a registry of people (mostly children) that go missing within them.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Arts in Embassies also allows "art" to be shipped without passing through customs.
Link- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1855938
1 CaptainApollyon 2018-01-25
Diplomatic bags can be as large as shipping containers.
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1 NonDucor_Duco2 2018-01-25
This doesn't really answer your question but I thought this was interesting. I recently went back to school and in one of my classes we have to right a paper on "fake news." One of the first prompts is about pizzagate and how the "fake news" got out of hand and ended up leading to a shooting based around false pretenses. It's not even a discussion as to whether or not it's fake news, it's under the "confirmed list" of "fake news" stories that we have to choose from. This is a statewide curriculum as I understand it for a master's program
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Indoctrination and Propaganda.
What subject, if you don't mind me asking? I would guess English or Journalism.
1 NonDucor_Duco2 2018-01-25
It's actually part of a master's program in biology but I'm a few credits behind in English and this is just an average English essay writing class
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Since this discussion is posted, here's the full sourced Pgate summary from voat-
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611
1 TheJesusFattener 2018-01-25
I guess it depends on what country you’re referring to. I have noticed a lot more stories in the news in the last year coming out about human trafficking rings being broken up and taken down.
As someone who lives in South Florida, we see plenty of child exploitation arrests go down in Polk County. Sheriff Judd seems to have so many of these busts it’s almost routine to the point of being suspicious.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
It’s certainly no conspiracy theory It’s FACT They think that if the worm hole is opened the majority of the population couldn’t handle it. Peoples brains refuse to believe that other humans (especially if in a powerful position) are capable of such sickness. People would rather think it’s scare mongering than actually believe the truth. That’s why they call it red pilling but drip by drip. I showed a friend the Posesta art and he just said turn it off it’s sick. How can you look at that! I said it’s real n people need to wake up because until everyone thinks like me kids are going to continue to be sacrificed
1 mastigia 2018-01-25
My best friend is anti-conspiracy. Well, he was until I showed him the PG executive summary. When he got to the art, he was convinced. Now he has all kinds of questions about everything. It's great!
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
Some can be woke And some just never will
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Like in this very thread.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Does Pizzagate have any actual concrete evidence? Actual victims? Any testimony or support from law-officials? Or is it still just general hatred of the Clinton's and Democratic party disguised as a concern over "suspicious" Instagram photos and taken-out-of-context e-mails?
Human trafficking does EXIST and needs to be combated. But Pizzagate is a 4chan fantasy.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
No, it's not.
Fully sourced executive Pgate summary- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611
Arts in Embassies- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611
Conspiracy of Silence, detailing US Elite child abuse- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBSIDQt5Dwc&t=4s
Dutroux Affair, detailing European Elite and Nobility child abuse- https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
This is the problem - you conflate Pizzagate with relatively REAL examples of real abuse.
The Dutroux Affair refers to a real set of crimes. It has REAL perpetrators, REAL victims, and REAL legal testimony.
The Franklin Scandal, famously depicted in 'Conspiracy of Silence', also has REAL perpetrators, REAL victims, and REAL legal testimony.
Pizzagate has none of this - again, your link sends me to nothing more than hyped up "concern" over so-called suspicious art, Instagram posts and e-mails that are taken out of context.
Do you not realize that none of this would ever hold up in a courtroom?
1 bradok 2018-01-25
You haven't read the links I gave you. If you did you would see this is more than out of context BS. Pgate is intimately connected with Dutroux and Franklin, it is the continuation. These cases didn't happen in a vacuum, were covered up, and didn't just "end". To believe they did is incredibly naive.
Do you realize that if this much circumstantial evidence had been found concerning an unimportant citizen that the police would have already opened an investigation?
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
I'm very familiar with the Pizzagate "evidence" - it's associated with spirit cooking and pizza symbols and Lady Gaga. It is blatantly ridiculous and is patently dangerous. You cannot accuse others of a crime if THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF SAID CRIME. I do not see any convincing arguments that attempt to connect Pizzagate with Dutroux/Franklin. Again, the only "evidence" cited is trumped up accusations based on nothing more than the same stupid photos, paintings and language.
You didn't answer the question. And are you f-ing kidding me? Every day, REAL abusers get a free pass from the legal system because of circumstantial evidence. They get OFF because someone forgot to file paperwork or submit testimony. Cases where there are REAL victims and REAL testimony often get tossed out because of various legal red tape. But you honestly think something birthed off the bright minds at 4chan would actually be a slam dunk in the courts? Jesus...
1 bradok 2018-01-25
That's not it at all. Your ignorance is showing, whether it is genuine or not I do not know. But you aren't as familiar with this as you think you are if that's what you think it's all about, LOL.
You can look into their public life, profiles, statements, and associations. Especially when the police won't. There's nothing illegal about that. This is all public info bud.
Lol "trumped up evidence" " same stupid photos and paintings". You haven't looked at this stuff at all. Especially with a statement like that, it betrays you. You should take some time to read it, but I know you won't.
So many distractions and innuendos! Nice job! I answered your question with my question, which you understand but choose to ignore. And while other people are getting off on technicalities, our own elite are getting off because of the corrupted police, courts, and higher echelons of government. Dutroux and Franklin show how the cover up is done. And again- if all of this circumstantial evidence was found on an unimportant citizen, their local PD would be investigating.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
While it's kind of cute that you insist on calling me "bud" and questioning my intelligence, it really just goes to show what results from just about EVERY discussion surrounding Pizzagate. People ask for evidence - evidence doesn't exist so proponents of the theory just claim you're "stupid", "ignorant" or somehow supportive of child abuse. It gets old.
Nobody suggested that it was illegal and/or private information. It's just kind of sad use of your time, to be honest. Again - you want to help REAL victims of child abuse? Go get your Social Work degree and go work with CPS...don't waste your time playing armchair investigator.
Can you please suggest to me evidence that IS NOT stupid photos/painting/e-mails from Podesta? You keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about but you haven't offered anything to suggest the contrary.
So, um, you realize you still didn't answer the original question, right? Answering a question with a question is what children who don't know any better do.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
I didn't question your intelligence. Ignorance doesn't have to do with being smart. It has to do with being aware of the facts, which you clearly are not. I also didn't say you supported abuse, nice strawman tho, bud!
Typical insults always leveled against citizen activists. Nice job bud.
I've offered you everything you need and more. And you choose to remain willfully ignorant. I know you haven't read what I gave you, because there's a ton of reading involved. You think you understand but you really, really don't lol.
I did answer the question, with my question. It is a form of rhetorical response. You know this, you choose to ignore it, like many other things.
Have a good day bud!
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
I never suggested you accused me of supporting abuse - I said that proponents of the theory often resort to that when cornered by requests for real evidence. Also, in no way did my comment suggest a strawman argument.
Nobody suggested that it was illegal and/or private information. It's just kind of sad use of your time, to be honest. Again - you want to help REAL victims of child abuse? Go get your Social Work degree and go work with CPS...don't waste your time playing armchair investigator.
Citizen activists? Because you sit around and spam Conspiracy boards about "creepy" e-mail exchanges and pizza slices? In my neck of the woods, we don't call that citizen activism - we call that being bored and willingly immature.
You've offered me nothing other than the same re-hashed arguments courtesy of 4chan and voat. Again, do you have any real evidence or just your "gut feeling" that the Clintons were dismembering babies in a pizza restaurant basement?
Rhetoric is relied upon when the speaker realizes he or she has nothing else to hold up as support. Again, you have no interest in responding to the question because you realize there is no answer - all you know is all of those creepy photos MUST mean children are really being abused! Oh, and you have a great day too, "bud"!
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Wrong on oh so many counts. But This thread has been rule 12'd and you have shown your true colors. This conversation is done bud, have a good one out there lol.
1 400lbFistofLegend 2018-01-25
Most of those code words sounded like drugs. Have you tried searching for ‘pizza parlor’ and ‘cocaine’?
1 bbhr 2018-01-25
Voat and Youtube videos. Those are some reliable news sources there.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
So wrong on so many levels.
The youtube video isn't just any video bud, it's an actual documentary that was banned from airing on national TV. It interviews Paul Bonacci and Alicia Owens, two children heavily involved int he Franklin Scandal, and John DeCamp, the lawyer for it all and advocate.
The Voat links are heavily sourced and if you bothered to read them, which I know you didn't, you would know that. Attacking a source w/o reading it is the sign of a weak mind.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
The documentary was NOT banned. It wouldn't be so readily available on Youtube if it was banned. Is there some serious concern about who bought the rights and pulled it at the last moment? Absolutely - but calling it "banned" is blatantly false.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
That is banned. It was never aired on National TV. It was effectively banned by that action. Quit being obtuse.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
So, because something wasn't aired on national TV equates it to being banned? That's a pretty extreme definition - and I'm not being obtuse. You want to be taken seriously? Use the correct words to support your argument, not rhetoric.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Lol you are being obtuse, and within the context of a supposedly "Free Press" and "open America" that is how things are banned, bud.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Was "obtuse" the word of the day on dictionary.com or something? Again, I'm not being obtuse - I'm asking you to be accurate in your statements. The documentary was not banned. The rights were purchased and pulled at the last moment - this is concerning and certainly reason enough to consider it suspicious. But banned it was not.
We forget that just because we're on the internet, doesn't mean that we don't have to be held accountable for the bullshit we spew.
1 bbhr 2018-01-25
Victims of a made-up story?
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Oh wow lol. If you think Franklin was a made up story...you really don't have a clue. I highly recommend you watch that documentary, maybe even read John DeCamps book? I know you wont.
1 bbhr 2018-01-25
Owens spent time in jail for perjury. Doesn't exactly make her a credible source.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Owens spent time for perjury because she refused to recant the testimony of her abuse...after the FBI turned Paul Bonacci, who later recanted the testimony the FBI forced him to make. You need to watch the documentary. Alicia Owens was telling the Truth and it's why she was silenced.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
That's actually a fair critique - as concerning as the Franklin scandal is, I'll gladly admit that there are several holes and issues with credibility. However, there's enough legal testimony to suggest that something illegal and unethical occurred. I wouldn't recommend DeCamp's book because he isn't the most credible source - however, Nick Bryant's book is actually pretty well written and well sourced.
1 theawesomethatis 2018-01-25
We have a crapload of coincidentally dead people who supposedly had actual evidence...
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Well, now, isn't that just convenient?
1 Topsecretrocketman 2018-01-25
Who are these dead people?
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
It’s very real. Kathy o brien will tell you she’s a survivor .. someone show him the skippy video
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
A survivor? Of Pizzagate?
For what it's worth, I have no real opinion on O'Brien as I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to know one way or the other. But I'm pretty sure she wasn't attached to Pizzagate. MKUltra is another thing entirely, however.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
It’s all linked ... the people... the elite.... it’s all linked ... all comes back to the same people.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Linked? How? To whom?
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
Child trafficking. Pizza gate Comet ping ping Mk ultra Celebrities Politicians Satanic rituals Bohemian grove Panama papers Planned parenthood All linked Thats not even touched the sides!
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Um, that's not a response, dude - that's just a random string of conspiracy buzz words. This is why people don't take conspiracy theorists seriously.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
Look I’m not trying to convince you. If you don’t believe it’s real then I just pity you
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Ah, got it - thanks for playing.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
It’s not a game .. children are being put through horrific torture.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Child trafficking is not a game, you are correct. REAL children are being harmed, abused, murdered. That is precisely why we need to speak about these issues with maturity and logic...
...but - and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - no children (or even parents of children) have come forward to accuse the players in Pizzagate of abuse, no? So, when you say children are being put through horrific torture as evidenced by Pizzagate, my response would be, okay, what children are you speaking of?
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
Children from disaster areas are taken and just presumed dead. Have you seen the footage of the woman leading the child into the house that backs onto the museum??? There’s lots of evidence that this is going on. Obummer ordering 65,000 dollars worth of hotdogs and cheese pizza delivered to the WH
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Your decision to refer to Obama as "Obummer" tells me all I need to know about your maturity level.
In regards to the "woman leading the child into the house that backs onto the museum", I'm sure you'll be interested in this post - https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7o3itd/where_is_the_post_regarding_a_vehicle_with_cps/
And what is so strange about hot dogs, especially for an event entitled "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"? Is the 65K an example of child trafficking or just wasteful government spending?
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
You are nuts If you believe that you’ve just spouted
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
So, no response to the legitimate debunking of your claim about the "woman leading the child into the house that backs onto the museum"?
And are you seriously calling me insane because I don't find it illogical that people might want to be served hot dogs at a function that is LITERALLY called "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"? Again, I'll cave on the 65K - that's just f-ing ridiculous and a waste of taxpayer money. But it's not a smoking gun.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
65k is a waste of tax payers money???
You are deluded if you are trying to say this is not happening. And you say I’m immature? You could be right. But your issues are a lot heavier than my immaturity if you really believe they bought food.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
65k is a waste of tax payers money???
You are deluded if you are trying to say this is not happening. And you say I’m immature? You could be right. But your issues are a lot heavier than my immaturity if you really believe they bought food.
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Yes, spending sixty-five thousand dollars on food for a social event is a waste of tax-payer money. Personally, I think tax-payer money should be used for more important things like, say, efforts to combat the trafficking of children.
1 TW_Anon 2018-01-25
I’m out! Your blind to the truth And it’s pointless going round in circles because You won’t convince me and I won’t convince you 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
1 Nick11288 2018-01-25
Gotcha. Have a good one then.
1 Quetzalcoatlwasright 2018-01-25
People are fucking cowards that’s why
1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2018-01-25
Removed. Rule 12.
1 Topsecretrocketman 2018-01-25
Pizzagate is a hodgepodge of smear campaigns, trolling, speculative evidence, and sunken cost syndrome. I have yet to see any solid objective evidence in the case.
1 bradok 2018-01-25
Wrong on oh so many counts. But This thread has been rule 12'd and you have shown your true colors. This conversation is done bud, have a good one out there lol.