Question about space
0 2018-01-25 by Quetzalcoatlwasright
I noticed awhile back that the existence of space is a huge debate.
Wanted to say this and have thought this way for a long time.. what if you’re both right? What if say, rockets can’t function in a vacuum, which there is some evidence for, can zero point energy? Perhaps we’re just stuck on rockets when in reality, TPTB have had their own UFOs for a century..
Also, consider the possibility that all is mind and that our minds themselves decide what the shape of the Earth is.
I think the flat earth people were onto some things, but got stuck on the idea that the earth had to be flat.
No, I think the Earth is magic
We just can’t see that yet
43 comments
1 remington_smooth 2018-01-25
I'm not a flat farther, just thought I should say that up front...
I was having a conversation in another thread that mentioned flat earth where we were talking about the idea that the 'flat' Earth could be an infinitely flat plane (or at least a very large one). 'Aliens' could be from an enclave that is faraway from our enclave (beyond the ice barrier of the pole or whatever they call it). Like a big board with lots of holes drilled in it..each hole would be a different 'Earth'.
This is just in response to the idea that people get stuck on certain ideas.
Also, I like your name.
1 Quetzalcoatlwasright 2018-01-25
I’m of the same mindset. I mean I’ve had some psychedic experiences that basically showed me the “fractal reality”
I mean everything is one, all within one little atom you find repeating patterns.
I like this idea^ because it really does open up a whole lot of possibilities. It also makes sense that TPTB would want us to focus on the stars when really we could potentially walk to other worlds
As a sci-fi nerd, it’s a hard pill to swallow, but I haven’t been to space so I leave all options of it on the table.
1 ellelitellelit 2018-01-25
Hubby and I chat about the infinite plane theory a lot. We also smoke a lot of weed, but I digress.
I’m one of our more interesting convos I pondered how anyone would really know what happened in the past if no one on earth is more than 125 years old. Sure there’s oral history, but there is no way to really know that we aren’t just on some infinite plane of reality that’s constantly being updated to provide citizens with whatever history they want you to “know”. Maybe there is no history and the stuff we are told about the “past” is just to make us afraid and to foster fear through control. I dunno. We think a lot of weird shit.
1 remington_smooth 2018-01-25
The thing is, that’s pretty much the mainstream definition of history. Historians can’t possibly tell the whole entire story— They have to boil it down to its essence. Who’s to say whether or not that “essence” is calculated to have some kind of propaganda effect?
1 Seth__Rich 2018-01-25
There is no evidence rockets can't work in space lmfao; and the existence of space also isn't "up for debate" except for small schizo flatty circles.
1 Quetzalcoatlwasright 2018-01-25
Well I’m not a flat earth person and I’m saying I believe we’ve been lied to about space. Perhaps traveling is just easier than they let on.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
Of course nobody can prove rockets don't work in "space" because "outer space" doesn't exist. You are asking us to prove something in a fairytale land that only exists inside your imagination. Basic physics proves rockets can't work in a vacuum though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHeO22EjHkI&list=PLYI8318YYdkD_VW7u3EMBq-MeNIuHRnb4&index=9
1 Seth__Rich 2018-01-25
Lmao what a joke, "I took physics 101 in high school once, let me explain rockets with springs"
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
Isn't it sad though that maneuvering in a vacuum can be shown to be impossible with basic physics yet so many just blindly believe in it? It's quite a successful religious cult they got going.
1 Seth__Rich 2018-01-25
Yup suuuuper basic physics that your guy can't get right apparently.
Keep making videos saying they can't while the rest keep on exploring space I suppose
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
What exactly is wrong about his physics?
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
Rockets and engines in space behave according to Isaac Newton's third law of motion: Every action produces an equal and opposite reaction.
When a rocket shoots fuel out one end, this propels the rocket forward — no air is required.
It doesn't matter if I provide you any evidence, which shouldn't really be needed to explain reality, because you're just going to call it a hoax but https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/rocket/TRCRocket/rocket_principles.html
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
That claim is exactly what is refuted in the basic physics of the video.
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
Do you know what his credentials are ? Or "He just seems smart and he's got a whiteboard" is good enough for you.
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
I also find it hilarious you believe in a "God", but refute basic science and dismiss it as a hoax.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
Fake space and flat earth are evidence of God. That's why it's being faked to begin with.
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
Before it's too late: https://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/immediate-help
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
People like you push actual free thinkers to dig deeper into the things I say. Thanks for that!
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
"Free thinkers"...well that's a nice way of putting it.
Woah, I don't want to be responsible for your mental issues. No need to give me thanks.
1 joe_jaywalker 2018-01-25
This is Crispy_Socks purpose, to show up in a conspiracy thread for some reason, and accomplish the opposite of what he sets out to do.
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
I get a laugh out of the straight up lunatics. lol, I'm not trying to change the mind of mentally unstable people.
1 CelineHagbard 2018-01-25
Removed. Rule 4.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2018-01-25
Thats not true at all.
Heres a rocket in a vacuum chamber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBRQXxBRic
Why, in your own words, do you think its not possible?
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
That vacuum is way too small. You will notice there was no movement at first but once the vacuum filled up and no longer was a vacuum it started to move. That's who Mythbusters and all the deceivers are pulling one over on people. Cody's lab even left water at the bottom of theirs which boils in a vacuum (and therefore makes it not a vacuum).
Every action has an equal but opposite reaction still need something to work on. It's true in reality but not in the made up land of "outer space" which is suppose to be a gigantic vacuum (which is also adjacent to our non vacuum atmosphere which is also absurd).
I've seen you all over fake space and FE posts though so no interest in debating with a proud member of the religion.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2018-01-25
Its pushing on itself...
There are plenty of videos out there of rockets working in a vacuum.
I can prove my ideas, FE is the one that operates on beliefs
1 AdmiralMuhan 2018-01-25
I studied a fair bit of advanced sciences, including mathematics and physics at university level, which involved many proofs from first principles and experimental evidence. If you want to claim that rocket, orbital or just plain old classical mechanics somehow are complete nonsense (like the vaccuum statement), I'd be fascinated to hear the scientific "proof" that backs up such a claim.
1 Seth__Rich 2018-01-25
You replied to the wrong person I think.
1 AdmiralMuhan 2018-01-25
Ahh, I see how it could be perceived that way: I worded it quite strangely. I was intending to effectively agree with you (personally), using you (impersonally) to refer to the people claiming such nonsense.
Sorry it was unclear. :)
1 ElsaHate 2018-01-25
Prove it then. Stop sitting around being skeptical of people's work and their research spanning hundreds of years.... go prove them wrong.. you lazy fuck
1 Quetzalcoatlwasright 2018-01-25
You made my day
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
Regardless of the actual shape of the Earth "outer space" is clearly one of the most successful hoaxes of all time. It's the foundation for all the rest of the mind control TPTB use on us. If the foundation of everything you believe is a lie (big bang in outer space) then they can lie about anything and everything.
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
lol, get a load of this guy.
I won't ask you to prove that it's fake, otherwise you'll go all crazy again and start spouting of bible verses.
Get some help buddy.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
Mocking the truth is expected.
1 CRISPY_SOCKS 2018-01-25
That's that opposite of what I'm doing, but OK.
1 King_Thor 2018-01-25
Even the ancient Sumerians knew about space, planetary orbits, and the solar system. Crazy that people like you are arguing something that has been known for thousands of years.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-01-25
I "knew" about space my entire life as well. Now I know it's a hoax. Not everyone is ready to come out of that religion but a paradigm shift will come someday.
1 King-Hell 2018-01-25
Meds review due?
1 CelineHagbard 2018-01-25
Removed. Rule 4.
1 dickjokesauce 2018-01-25
yeah i've played around with this model too - that reality is the collective sum of everyone's perception. it's a scary model, and it's not the only one that's like this. regardless of model people know how they'd like to be treated and you can, by thinking from first principles, figure out the principles of balance that would make life as tolerable as it can be regardless of model. in other words, regardless of model, our optimal arrangement is the same. and we don't dialogue on this kinda thing much and get caught up in the minutae. which is weird, really. you'd think we'd have a larger frame of reference.
1 IAmThatIAm001 2018-01-25
Space is space.
Thermodynamics says heat flows to colder areas regardless of dimension as a means of balance. Space isnt a perfect vacuum being devoid of any particulates or without its own principle governing aspects; electromagnetic, gravity, thermodynamics among other variables dictating the state of space between masses and higher concentrations of those governing principles. Density of matter has a profound, limiting or made possible, effect on efforts an acting function may have when interacting with its immediate environment.
1 King_Thor 2018-01-25
It's only a debate for those that throw tens of thousands of hours of video evidence and millions of photographs in the trash and disregard them as CGI. They are also discounting the work of astronomers who have seen planets with their own eyes through telescopes.
1 reallywidetree 2018-01-25
The horizon is magic. Mythologies and religions are just trying to put words to the weirdness that goes on there. Just take a look, you'll see serpents, dragons, wings, fins, all kinds of funky stuff.
https://i.imgur.com/727nTwK.gif
https://i.imgur.com/ykYvXLX.gif
https://i.imgur.com/cdGvqDm.gif
https://i.imgur.com/9aJfZOAh.gif
https://i.imgur.com/z43mlJOh.gif
https://i.imgur.com/lhipJSnh.gif
https://i.imgur.com/mryElrkh.gif
https://i.imgur.com/i3IzAEe.gif
1 justinxduff 2018-01-25
The existence of space is not a huge debate. It's not a debate at all.