You mean to tell me, a blatantly obvious anti-president shilled post hits the front page of /r/conspiracy, with 500 upvotes and over 800 comments, then after banning obvious shills, a "banned for asking why" post pops up? Its a fucking setup
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1 The_SaltLife 2018-01-26
Submission Statement: The thread that popped up earlier today about Trump in this subreddit was an orchestrated setup against one of the mods here at /r/conspiracy in an attempt to get them demoded.
1 Cptn_Canada 2018-01-26
kinda salty there eh?
1 grndzro4645 2018-01-26
I take this to mean that the mods here are good and they want their own in to start culling out all the dissidents till /conspiracy mirrors all the trash subs already out there.
1 CalNaughton 2018-01-26
Like r/politics perhaps?
1 mastigia 2018-01-26
Which is funny because he is top mod. There is almost nothing that can change that. The situation a few months ago was extremely unique, and AP will not likely make similar mistakes.
All this drama is just stupid. AP ain't going anywhere, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
1 wololoPriestAoE 2018-01-26
Djezes, so because people have a different opinion then you/him, they should be banned?
1 idiotwithatheory 2018-01-26
I hope not!
The day people get banned for differing opinions is the day we should leave reddit and find a new site to browse
1 Mooseisabitfat 2018-01-26
When did anti-president posts become a problem?
1 CaptainApollyon 2018-01-26
When they mirror cnn headlines.
1 Mooseisabitfat 2018-01-26
CNN is constantly churning out articles. Limiting yourself to having only opinions that are counter to CNN seems like an absurd constraint.
1 mygangwillgetyou 2018-01-26
It was an attempt to oust a mod. You can be anti-trump all you want.
1 CucumberKnight 2018-01-26
I don't agree with that at all. The defense of the mods here is suspicious as well...
1 bbhr 2018-01-26
Right, we should only cite randomconservativefucktardDOTCOM on this sub.
1 CaptainApollyon 2018-01-26
links to CNN are banned because they used the full force of their company to black mail a guy for making a meme.
1 ehll_oh_ehll 2018-01-26
Infowars or nothing
1 VeganSavage 2018-01-26
LOL why is his comment downvoted, it's exactly right.
1 ehll_oh_ehll 2018-01-26
I cant believe half the retards have got the new talking points yet. Fox has all ready reported it has true.
1 Cptn_Canada 2018-01-26
I think mods need to create a poll, because I think its fairly even ( Ds and Rs ) in this sub.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
You left out all the independents, libertarians, anarchists, and the rest of us that are sick of the bullshit two party system.
I think it's hilarious you think this sub is half democrats half republicans.
1 Cptn_Canada 2018-01-26
You are correct. Hell im Canadian, im neither aswell.
1 anthrolookseee 2018-01-26
For real. I would hope this sub would contain a high population of independents and outliers considering the seemingly popular opinion that America is being played by both sides.
1 Atlas__risen 2018-01-26
There are literally dozens of us!
1 Bruce_de_Balzac 2018-01-26
Libertarian meetings around where I am now are sparse sausagefests, kind of like a high school chess club. Terrific people - smart, principled, and dedicated. Not enough of them :(
1 Kolyin 2018-01-26
Typical fucking libertarian can't use the metric system.
1 Kolyin 2018-01-26
If you gathered all the users in one warehouse and provided booze, you'd get an amazingly diverse party, an all-out brawl, and/or a truly strange orgy.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
Haha.
First you'd have to get most of us to put aside the suspicion at getting invited to a random warehouse to get us to show up.
1 Kolyin 2018-01-26
I assumed it would just be a mass kidnapping.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
Nope. No real user here sides with those trolls and shills.
And good luck with this thread , OP. They're triggered and on a brigade rampage.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
I'm a real user. We've talked before. I don't think it helps anyone to believe that most people that disagree with you arent real.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
Then why do you care about contest mode? Tell me how it affects you.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
It's fine if we want to put every thread here in contest mode. The problem is I think it's used when people don't like the top comments. So they want to shuffle it up so the most popular comments are hidden. And that's soley based on whether a couple people disagree politically with the top comments. That doesn't seem cool to me.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
If the vote counts were organic, I would agree with you.
But if you've been here a long time, you'd know that they are most definitely not organic whatsoever.
If you're a real user here, you should be against vote manipulation even if the comments being artificially boosted are comments you agree with.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
Let's be honest here. Depending on the post, people from politics might brigade and some people from the_donald might brigade. Some days the front page here has 3 identical posts with identical titles from the_donald. I just don't see those posts getting put in contest mode. So in my opinion, let's have every thread that way, or not do it. Because it's used as a tool when certain folks don't like the top comment.
1 mwiegel2 2018-01-26
Why the fuck must people suck off the president to be acceptable in this sub?
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
This question shows me you have completely missed the point. Finding think you could miss it more than you have. Congratulations.
1 The_SaltLife 2018-01-26
Imagine being so pathetic, you have nothing better to do with your time then troll on reddit.
1 mwiegel2 2018-01-26
Imagine being so pathetic, you have nothing better to do then promote the piece of shit president.
1 The_SaltLife 2018-01-26
Tell us how you really feel bb
1 mwiegel2 2018-01-26
That I can't fathom how people gurgle the balls of a 71 year old obesed man. The taste just has to be awful...Do you use like a jolly rancher or something to help with it?
1 The_SaltLife 2018-01-26
Shhh is ok bb
1 mwiegel2 2018-01-26
Honestly though,why do you support someone like Trump? It makes no sense to me way he has the following he does
1 The_SaltLife 2018-01-26
Who hurt you
1 mwiegel2 2018-01-26
The bootlickers here.
1 CucumberKnight 2018-01-26
Because they're helping prop up the idea of merging conspiracy theorists with conservative politics and taking away the non partisan appeal. Sucking us into the paradigm and thinking trump is a "good guy" taking down the elites. It's all bs.
1 mastigia 2018-01-26
Sub is wall to wall shills right now. Nothing will be fun today.
1 RedPillFiend 2018-01-26
Yeah, just got tagged in TUMOR and pretty sure the guy low key threatened me.
I can't be sure though because I don't speak dumbass. Is there a dumbass to English translator somewhere? Haha.
1 mastigia 2018-01-26
Meh, I just do what I want and when I get a mailbox full of shit I just hit mark all as read and go about my day lol. I feel bad for these shills that put so much work into their responses, I literally never read them. But I figure if I make a comment that makes them feel compelled to reply with a dissertation, I'm helping out the sub by tying them up licking windows.
1 Greenish_batch 2018-01-26
Boy are you in a sad state in your life right now, where literally nothing can convince you to re-examine your preconceived notions. I hope you can get out of this phase, for your own sake!
1 mastigia 2018-01-26
It works
1 Greenish_batch 2018-01-26
What works? Your ability to lock your view of the world up and remain forever close-minded?
1 sdlbbgnqfqw213 2018-01-26
Yea, if you are talking about the "how do we get a mod removed post" I agree. Especially the timing with politics shareblue death.
If you think it is about trump, you are very very wrong lmao. Consider all the "this is trying to make this sub look bad" posts.
1 TheFlowwerGurl 2018-01-26
Bottom line, the mods have a blatant pro trump conservative bias and it has no place in a sub like this.
Plus, he banned like 30 people in under an hour. That's not responsible modding.
1 TheJesusFattener 2018-01-26
But how can we believe what an 11 day old account thinks is best for this sub?
1 TheFlowwerGurl 2018-01-26
Yours is barely 60 days old. Account age means Dick here. Most of us have been lurking for years before we made accounts.
1 TheJesusFattener 2018-01-26
I’m not the one flying around telling people what’s best and what isn’t. I’m just laughing at you all.
1 sdlbbgnqfqw213 2018-01-26
please explain to everyone how you know that. Your general use of "our" is very telling in your comments.
Go find a tall building, and dive off of it.
1 More_Kissing 2018-01-26
There's a mod log, friend. You can go and see all the bans.
1 VeganSavage 2018-01-26
There are PLENTY of anti Trump posts in this sub, If you forgot what biased is, go look at r/politics.
1 idiotwithatheory 2018-01-26
I would say its fine to be pro trump or anti hillary or whatever.
Its only when you start banning people....for no reason.....that has no place in any subreddit.
I got banned in one subreddit for saying prisoners should be required to work instead of getting free meals everyday
I got banned from another sub for answering this question: is there anything i should be expecting after i have my abortion? I said yeah each time you see a kid or baby you will probably think of that baby in your belly you killed.
In both cases i felt like those were reasonable responses and not a fair reason to be banned.
But if we keep banning everyone who has an opposite opinion from our own. ....the whole reddit hive mind will just get worse and worse until there are no dissenting opinions.
What color is the sky? Its blue! No its carolina blue. No its actually baby blue you are banned!
1 biffingzorp 2018-01-26
Sounds like you're unhappy with this sub. You should spend time in one you like better.
1 TheFlowwerGurl 2018-01-26
Nah, someone has to babysit this place
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-01-26
Maybe you can respond to your previous comments to me while you are "babysitting".
1 NotDaFeds 2018-01-26
The usual suspects are here :)
1 mwiegel2 2018-01-26
Go to T D if you want a place that worships the president.
1 ElsaHate 2018-01-26
No.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
Are you implying that we should be worshiping the president here too?
1 CucumberKnight 2018-01-26
Sounds like he's a little butthurt that we won't bow down to his demagogue so fake tear
1 ElsaHate 2018-01-26
Actually I don't like the president. But I said no because it looked like you were telling people what to do. You don't have any authority, so "no" seemed like the right thing to say.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
Different guy bud.
1 CucumberKnight 2018-01-26
Agreed.
1 monkhouse 2018-01-26
Yes it's true, and obvious. But I think the reason it's obvious is that the predictable outrage over how obvious it is is part of the scheme. It doesn't work unless we're angry.
The idea is to stir up trouble, get everyone at each other's throats, divide everyone on every possible line. Turn up the heat until every post on any subject descends into namecalling and mudslinging, to the point where the sub becomes unusable. Then pop! out come the dramaposters with inboxes simply overfilling with horrid slurs and physical threats that nobody ever sees, and it's an emergency - admin intervention, out with the old, in with the new. Finally, a place to catch up on all those NFL conspiracies while I eat my Taco Bell and watch the latest Marvel show on Netflix.
The way to prevent this, is to be chill. The pop! doesn't work unless there's enough hostility already present to make it plausible. That doesn't mean ignore them, or accept what's happening, or change anything about what you think or talk about. Just that if we all keep it chill - see the funny side, see the tragic side, feel for the human behind the keyboard regardless of who owns that keyboard - we'll eventually win. Like, easily. It'll be hilarious.
1 nduece 2018-01-26
Go to t_d if you want cock worship trump. This isn't the sub for it.
1 biffingzorp 2018-01-26
And go to /r/politics if you want to spam your Democrat talking points.
Oh wait, even they're fed up with you.
1 DrStevenPoop 2018-01-26
Absolutely right OP. This has happened before and a mod was kicked for it. I guess they're trying it again.
Shills really fucking hate contest mode. Why? Because they come here to to push their chosen narrative and suppress counter-narratives. Contest mode simply reorders top level comments randomly instead of by votes, and hides vote count on comments. No opinions are censored, and there are no additional barriers to participation. It just makes brigading ineffective because brigades can no longer control the discussion with targeted voting.
When the mods had that sticky about submission statements, I suggested that they put everything in contest mode by default. It won't stop all shilling, nothing will, but it will deprive shills of their most useful tactic: Vote brigading comments.
https://i.imgur.com/VZcSpZY.png
Check this out. I didn't create this graph, I found it in one of the many posts complaining about T_D users brigading, but it actually shows the opposite. In the plot of T_D vs non-T_D, you will see that future T_D users were here, getting upvoted, before Trump ever decided to run for President, and before T_D was even created. You will also see that T_D users were not in here downvoting everyone. There is no divergence. T_D users scores spike, and non-T_D users also spike. There's a big increase in activity prior to the election around when wikileaks was dropping emails and PG was hot, but the voting behavior stays the same. That changes after the election. T_D users scores drop significantly while non-T_D user scores rise. This is evidence of significant vote brigading. The index line makes it even more obvious. After the election there is a massive drop in average comment scores. Non-stop brigading in the comments. It is blatantly obvious in any political thread. Just look at the thread OP is talking about. Anything not pushing the correct narrative is downvoted below the threshold.
1 nevswhite 2018-01-26
Me watching r/conspiracy crash and burn as it becomes a r vs d sub
1 Hesonpoint 2018-01-26
I do agree this sub is becoming just another political forum, I disagree that it is a R vs D battle. The R’s and D’s worked together to intentionally destroy this country for their own gain. They are the same team, always have been.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
Let's be honest here. Depending on the post, people from politics might brigade and some people from the_donald might brigade. Some days the front page here has 3 identical posts with identical titles from the_donald. I just don't see those posts getting put in contest mode. So in my opinion, let's have every thread that way, or not do it. Because it's used as a tool when certain folks don't like the top comment.
1 SJWPussyLibtard 2018-01-26
Are you implying that we should be worshiping the president here too?