Something my dad said today

716  2018-01-27 by Quetzalcoatlwasright

May have changed my life; it wasn’t the words he said, it was the way he said them. My dad had been in the hospital, we thought he had diabetes at first. He’s always been strong and fit but he’s gained weight the last 5 years. Today, after like a week of working out I ran into him and he looked like a brand new man. I mean he was beaming.

He said, god told him “choose your pain.”

Choose your pain.

As if, you must have pain but you as a human being can choose how it manifests.

This was such a serendipitous moment for me and my dad will never realize why because we have quite different beliefs, but still, what an insight? I mean I say it all the time, “we are creators”

I guess to see someone who believes in Christianity learn that subtle truth was just a beautiful thing.

Choose your pain.

But what pain do you want? The pain of working out, hard work, and grit, possibly leading to real success? Or the pain of regret and failure, sickness and missed opportunities?

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Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

This was poetically beautiful.

A great insight.

Great post! Thank you for this!

Great post, and wise words. Glad to hear about your old man. I highly suggest you take a look into Dolores Cannon. She goes pretty in depth about this topic and others.

Thanks man, and I love Dolores, she’s so comforting to listen too.

You're welcome, and yea she is. She truly was a brilliant soul, that I learned a great amount from.

This explains a lot about you PLC

In a good way lol

:) cheers!

Eckhart Tolle talks a great deal about a mental construct called the pain body in his book the power of now. It is extremely useful information.

OPs pops is a wise man.

So is her name a coincidence? Or she chose that name after deciding to explore pain?

Or... She decided to explore the meaning of her given name and it pointed her life in a certain direction...

Either way, my fave thing I've found out about her so far is that she was removed from Wikipedia. I've never seen that before. Her page at least has the justification for removal, in the form of editors' conversation..

TIL a little more about how Wikipedia works.

And, oh, also because there's clearly a controversy there, this entire post now has a raison d'etre on this sub and can't be deleted. Attention mods!!!!

Dad knows what’s up! Glad he is feeling better.

Thank you! I was worried about him, definitely an answered prayer.

Maybe you guys can work out together! I’m sure he would love that, and you might too. Anyways, thanks for sharing your dads words of wisdom! I’m going to start using that one in my daily mantras. It’s one for the books.

Me too! Lol and yeah we used to, hope to get back to it.

Posts like these always make me want to start r/wholesomeconspiracy

That's a subreddit

Subbed

It is already a subreddit, bur you are aware that anyone can create a subreddit right?

Thank you.

There Re some of us who focus on what love did you have?

Did you give it?

No offense to your dad, but did he give it?

I’m not sure what you’re asking but if you’re questioning whether or not we love each other, yes we do. I would slit my own throat for that man. He would do the same for me.

Yeah I think I was slightly intoxicated when posting and what I was trying to say was not communicated properly- but regardless my comment was unnecessary and insensitive to your situation and I apologize. Hold your dad and cherish every last word he has and I wish y'all the best in this life and the next.

“we are creators” Understatement

Of the century*

I use this one. Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

sometimes we forget that we need pain to understand the good parts of life.

Best part of these comments and post.No shills. Awesome op. Thanks.

Very powerful! “Choose your pain”!

Good post op.

Unfortunately, physical pain may be unavoidable for some, especially as we get older. Fortunately mental pain can be eliminated.

I hear ya, for those of us below 40/50 though I think the physical part is still up to us. It’s so easy to just fall back into laziness in the internet age. To stay active and focused requires some pain.

Absolutely. I was also thinking of people that have been in accidents, hurt at work or born with something that causes physical pain. Things like that.

Right, for those people I suppose the kinds of pain change, but something I’ve noticed; people who become handicap in some way usually find a way of finding happiness is something and more often than not discover a skill that had lying dormant.

This is such a great post. Thank you for sharing it

Which is why it was reported like 5 times haha

I dont know if you meant to throw shade at the post with that comment, but I'd say that shows the state of our sub. Pathetic and not open to actual good unique thought and discussion. Sad really

All the good material gets reported a lot. That is all I was saying. And ya, the sub is in real bad shape.

Ok I kinda thought that's what you meant

Ya, I realize now it wasn't obvious haha. Oops

No worries. That's why it was probably downvoted by others in confusion

It's a state of mind. It's beyond words. Like what Jim Carrey is experiencing. It's like your dad became in tune. I have been trying to do that. Re tune myself.

I’m serious when he said those words “you choose your pain” I felt like a renewal of hope spring up in me, after having a rough couple of days. It was strange, I just wanted to share it.

You mean the Jim Carrey who's in hiding right now because three women are trying to serve him papers for giving them communicable diseases?

No Jim Carrey from the Truman show.

I didn't know that. That sucks.

I remember Jim Carey but whatever floats your boat.

Jim Carrey is a nutjob.

Thank you for posting this. Exactly what I needed to see here and now.

Me too. Exactly how it felt in real life when he said it.

It’s funny. Dozens of people might benefit from my silly dad’s burst of self love and insight. He said he started singing praise songs to god out loud in the gym lol.

It’s just funny that he’ll never know the affect it had on me, someone who isn’t Christian (though I respect it and adhere to some of its principles), and others.

You can pay now, or you can pay later.

Did the CIA use voice of God weapons on him? If so he might be in for some real pain ...

Great post I so agree. I think the way the world works now so many people feel out of control or suppressed with no choices. I'm sure that's what they want us to feel. In truth, no matter where you go or what you do you will have struggle and pain. It's what makes us stronger and better humans. Sometimes I wonder if pain and suffering is nessesary to learn who we really are and capable of and we are here on this Earth to do just that. Might as well own it.

Great post. Thank you.

As a Christian, I wish more people understood "ask and you shall receive."

Sometimes misfortune is the cure for a problem.

What's the conspiracy?

The conspiracy is that people don't understand the true power of their minds.

Who is conspiring?

Our minds.

When are our minds finding the time to conspire?

When are they not conspiring against us?

Lots of starving children crying to god for food and to be taken out of their pain, guess god picks and chooses who he gives a shit about.

This is a nice story, but doesn't shift me into a god believer.

Honestly half this subreddit is either psudoscience mumbo-jumbo, or some form of religion.

So what you're saying is that it's all pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo?

Religion doesn't try to make sense. It works on faith.

That's a different situation. I'm sorry you aren't able to see how God truly works.

Sadly I feel that statements like those are truly too misleading for some people to look past which is why this world is becoming so faithless.

If God fed everyone, and prevented all evil, we wouldn't have true freedom. God's greatest gift to man was free will. The ability to choose your own path. He watches over us, he guides us when we ask for guidance. But he's not gonna pick up the hoe and plow the land for us. We've got responsibilities, we've got freedom, we've got to take care of ourselves.

Um, then he's no god. He'd be demoted to the level of Observer or Watcher.

God isn't real. Science is. Magic is made up by those who don't understand science.

I live in the real world.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry you cannot use anything but insults to respond. I'm sorry you think the divine spirit of the universe is a "he". I'm sorry you are not a parent and can't understand what it's like to bring a life into the world that you can't control because you want it to grow on its own. I'm sorry you can't see that the line between magic and science is consciousness. I'm sorry you only live in the material world. The spiritual world has so much more to offer.

I don't need your pity. I don't need a child to know what life is. Magic is for magicians. Science is reality. Magic doesn't cure cancer. Science does. Magic doesn't bring a baby into this world. Science does. I'm sorry you blindly believe in things that you don't know, then without any knowledge, try to quantify it as fact (magic). You do realize things in the past that were considered magic have been explained by science? And science didn't come out and declare "this is totally magic, wow!" No. Science actually understands why, without mysticism.

Also, I reread my comments. I didn't insult you. If you really feel I did, you need to reevaluate a whole lot, kid.

Did you figure out whats medically wrong with him?

Yeah he has a severe allergy condition, CIU, has had it for years. We just thought he was getting diabetes.

!redditgarlic

!redditgarlic

I understand the meaning, but pain isn't that simple. Choosing your pain would mean suicide to some people. Choose growth.

It reminds me of the Buddhist teaching "life is suffering" or "life is pain" (the exact translation is disputed, but I won't get into that here).

It seems like a terrible thing to believe at first glance, but accept it for a moment. By accepting that life is suffering, and expecting suffering in every conflict or as a part of any experience, life becomes great. Like, if you go on a vacation and "try" to make everything awesome, you'll often be disappointed or dissatisfied. But if you see the experience as a part of life, you'll be happy. If you go on a vacation with the expectation that everything will be great, you'll be unhappy when your flight is delayed, or the hotel isn't as good as you thought it would be, or you end up having to pay more than you thought you would. But if you accept those things as inevitable, and expect them, you'll be much happier.

I'm not a Buddhist and I haven't studied Buddhism extensively, but this idea is really insightful for me. It's like a mind hack to be happier.

Agreed! I live my life by this

life is suffering

Jordan Peterson

one of my favorites on this subject is Ajahn Brahm - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqevcL9VDI - his talks are great

There is also pain you can take from others. Lovely post though, mate!

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Empathy can be brutal. I tutored for a long time, and I just took it all in. It feels like a basic human duty, but it's hard to deal with. Even had students that were at an infamous, but happily not deadly, school shooting. At least I felt good knowing that students felt like someone gave a damn, while at the same time doing my job and not being a pushover. But people can't function properly without anyone in their life commiserating with them.

In the world we inhabit, the most important thing in doing as you do is to offer the strength to others to also do. By simply being the one dude showing courage, you offer others the space to find that courage in themselves, for themselves. Courage is contagious.

It's crazy. My upbringing wasn't the most dignified let's say, but many kids I tutored had almost horrific lives. It's tough not to feel. Can you imagine being a good athlete, great chance at Ivy League and such, who has to go to school, go home, and then work a family restaurant in an inner city? Or being a middle schooler tasked with attending to a twin bed-ridden with a severe genetic disease in her "free time". The maturity some kids show is mind-boggling, and I probably looked up to them as much as the other way around.

Yeah, I can relate. I worked in tutoring and rehab for a while, with special needs clients. One of the most rewarding experiences of my life was meeting a girl named Jayne. She was in her honours year of psych about ten years previous, was pulled over the side of the road looking through a street directory when a sleeping truck driver drove over the drivers' side of her car, paralyzing her completely on the left side and leaving her in a coma for seven years. When she woke up, she wanted only to kill herself for almost two years, but was completely incapable of doing so.

I used to meet with her twice a week. She loved strong coffee more than anything in life, so we would always begin with me taking her for a coffee. We had to cross a very busy road to do so, and one time when I was paying attention to the traffic, she was stung by a bee on her face. I felt so fucking horrible at first, but she told me eventually (with no use of one side, her speech was difficult, and she could not control her burping for the same reason) that it felt. She didn't care that it felt bad, but just that she could feel it.

In the end, I built her a computer with a massive oversized keyboard so she could still type. Oh my. She was one of the most brilliant and creative people I had ever met. No wonder she wanted to end it, not being able to communicate any of that. She writes amazing poetry, and to this day keeps in contact. Oh, and she even wrote a book on that very computer.

thanks i must buy that book soon

Wow...I'm awed.

I had a legally blind student that was like 150/20 in his only good eye and we used to work on specialized testing for him to graduate high school. People fret over standardized testing and assessments...can you imagine trying to assimilate a reading passage when it can take you 30 seconds to read a single word?

One thing that students helped me do was hit rock bottom. And by that, I mean really look up to others with the acknowledgment that they are greater than you and more worthy of your focus or attention than yourself. Whether that is the reality or not doesn't matter.

She loved strong coffee more than anything in life, so we would always begin with me taking her for a coffee

A woman after my own heart. :)

I tutored something like 12000 hrs. and don't think I went without coffee for more than 100 of them. Not a shill, but Verona coffee from Starbucks might be the best thing ever.

Not that I've seen it, but your story obviously has The Diving Bell feel to it. One receptionist we had at my tutoring center was reading a book called Trapped...she was married, and probably not happily. We are all "trapped" one way or another, which has to be the basic set-up of reality. But while some people see it as a prison or a game, a tragedy or a comedy, I see it as amalgam of all of them. Same too for predestination/free-will.

Thanks for the great story, and I will remember it (my youngest sister is Jane...so not too hard).

!redditgarlic

Beautifully put. I was taught something very similar- "Choose your suffering"

Why not both?

Amazing and inspiring. Thank you for sharing this,

thats cool and all. but whats the conspiracy?

My thoughts exactly. Put this shit on /r/C_S_T or somewhere else.

So rare you actually get to hear the suidae complaining about the pearls, normally they don't even notice, trample under cloven hoof.

Currently choosing the pain alcohol brings...

unfortunately me too.

Lol

Why is this in /r/conspiracy? It's rubbish.

what's the conspiracy?

That the replies aren’t sorted by top comments and nobody cares that it isn’t a conspiracy. Watch as the whole sub turns into random posts and the conspiracy is that none of the topics are conspiracies effectively silencing the sub

I'd rather read this and not flat Earth topics. Or even see them.

The often question asked here is "what to do", and I think this touches the subject, and so is relevant to this sub.

Flat earth topics, oh my fuck. I can't do anything but shake my head when I see these comments that act like they hang out here frequently but then show their clear as day hand. I can't even remember a legitimate flat earth post on conspiracy.

can't even remember a legitimate flat earth post on conspiracy.

Cause there never was one. Just a psyop so that talking heads in the news can shame CTs by a supposed association to flat earthers.

Please don't swear in my Christian sub. Thanks.

Please don't take offense to swearing. It is a form of expression and should not be offensive. Words are only bad because we pretend they are.

Words offend me, stop using them.

It is the INTENT (which bears energy in this material existence) behind what you say. If you fall down and your loved one laughs at you and you smile while standing up straight and you exclaim ''fuck you''... you are basically sending love while making other sounds with your mouth. Think about that!

No we have to bring back chemtrails and flat Earth this is what I've been coming here 6 years for

Exactly! Since r/politics got hyper mod mode, this place has got their dregs. Time for r/konspiracy to shine!

Then why are you on a page for conspiracy theories?

For any related content

Go to r/lifeprotips for this type of contentent.

This type, meaning conspiracies and related content, is rarely found there.

This isnt conspiracy related content either though.

In my view it is. Like said in the original reply, many times the question is asked "then what should we do" and this touches that question. Close enough for me.

What continent are you on?

Or did you just have an Incontinental Breakfast?

I was referring to the flimsy construction of the post... An amalgamation of content and tent... (Post-mistake rationalisation is best)

Lifeprotips is full of rather naive folks unfortunately. Lots of good stuff, but much "how then shall we live" material.

No one ever talks about flat earth topics here. I see people complaining about the supposedly ubiquitous flat earthers more than I see actual flat earthers. And when I do see them, they're always downvoted.

The new queue has plenty of them, but you're right rarely get out of it - and same applies for comments yeah.

Still, I'd rather have the new queue have these kinds of posts instead.

R/Konspiracy is the place for you. This sub is full of shit these days.

I feel sorry for you if you can't see how this relates to the conspiracy mindset.

You are wrong. I care.

He is an alien giving us insight

More importantly, who in here is up voting this tripe?

It seems to me like some r/bullshitevangelism group has decided to do a youth outreach mission.

Well, flathead earth clearly doesn't work very good here.

Shhhh...

Just look around at this non-political, non-judgmental post. What's it missing that most other posts drown in?

relevancy?

The lack of contrarian, status-quo stroking, anti-thought posts.

should we post pictures of our puppies next?

One a day, sure.

Thank you OP! : )

why does this get downvoted? people are such dickheads

Reminds me of a story where God gives us our own cross to bear and a man told God his cross was too heavy for him to bear and wanted to see if he could get a new one. God agreed, as he walked around a room looking at different crosses, he saw big ones, giant ones, some with thorns, others with extra weigh, a few with varying chains of different girth. Then off in the distance he saw a really, really tiny one. He ran to it and said,"Lord, this is the one I want THIS is the one I can carry, these are the burdens I can bear." "Are you certain?" God asked. "Yes said the man." This is the one I want." "That is fine" stated the Lord,"But, why did you select the one you came in with?" Sometimes your prospective can change when looking at the burden of others. Personally I visited a Child Cancer Ward for a community program. After that day, I have no problems.

Sometimes life chooses it for you as in a stupid accident in which I now have chronic pain in my lower back and legs... Wish I had the choice.

Thought I was in /r/psychonauts

Why are you surprised because he’s a Christian?

“The kingdom of heaven is inside you”

This is inspirational and all but not a conspiracy and so is against the spirit of the sub. Reported

your last 3 sentences man

damn

If you don't know pain, you won't know happiness.

some one has been watching star treck discovery

The pain of discipline or the pain of regret

Maybe we already chose our pain before we were born

"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."

🙏

Thank you for this

Why not both ?

What in the hell is going on?

If r/conspiracy wasn't already a joke, the fact that a completely off-topic thread hits the front page will definitely make it one.

Chicken soup for the soul. Barf.

Not remotely relevant to the subreddit

This sub is so cooked now. A year ago this post would have been removed and this user would have been banned.

Next we’ll be posting pictures of new born kittens.

Here's a mindblowing revelation: When someone hears voices in their head that claim to be god, maybe it's not actually god.

That's what leapt out at me the most. Don't think it's Bashar, either, though.

To be fair, if Dad was out of bed and beaming, does it matter who told him what? Shit, thanks Lucifer appreciate the pep talk! Lol honestly I think this kids dad just popped out the other side of organized religion, we should have a party for this guy.

I’m a grown man lol he had kids young

I think I dropped kid in there out of habit lol my bad man. Party nonetheless!

Hell yeah! Haha I’m still a kid at heart

Never let that go! BT dub, love your username

Haha thank you!

"Choose your pain" is exactly the kind of thing "Lucifer" would say.

Damn right he would, but then again he might discuss something else as well. He might ask you "do you not experience pain daily already?" He'd probably tell you pain now, or pain later, either way it hurts, so get to work ;-) lol

op WHAT is the supposed conspiracy? Please answer!!!

I wanna meet that Dad

doo dah doo doo

Some people don't get to choose their pain....it's inflicted upon them and while we can choose our response, the pain is still there.

Don't fucking ask.

The quote your dad said has been around forever.

It’s a great message, but he didn’t make it up.

I know it was just a synchronistic experience. My dad doesn’t usually tout this kind of philosophy, he’s a pastor.

Yes, I’m sure it was a synchronistic experience, that Jesus came to your father and repeated a quote which was just making the rounds on the Internet because it was repopularized by The Rock.

That’d be awesome..

Great post on this morning. Really gets me moving. Kudos!

OR the pain of being numb to true suffering going on in the world and being dragged down into a void where the creators want us to believe that the truth is in some holy book.

Energy flows where your attention goes.

Well i am new here but i see the comments and just want to say, thank you for sharing.

Why is this here...? Some spiritual shite on a conspiracy forum? Surely this is against some rules...? Wholesomeness aside... This is not a conspiracy. Fucking hell, this sub is going to shit.

Fuck yeah man!!!

Empower yourself and choose the life you wish to live. Do not let it come to you carve a path

As some sort of shower thought I always say "we pick our poison".

The reasoning is that everyone of us have his kryptonite, some "evil" in us that needs to be healed. Some addiction.

But my point is: will we embrace it or will we strive to becoming a better person?

i like this. i didn't want to like this and i don't know why that is but it totally fits what i'm going through right now so thank you. i will use this.

I’m in the same boat my friend, good luck

“we are creators”

Only by the Grace of God. But you knew that.

Major transitions in ones life often involves pain of one type or another.

To better ones life first involves the pain of being honest with yourself to fully realize where you are at in life. You must change. The process of changing from bad to good is hurting and killing a part of who we are ... the weak and useless part of us.

Mental pain, emotional pain and physical pain forges us into stronger people. This includes dealing with the truth and reality of our world.

Within us all, we know what it is we have to do to be happy...it may involved some discomfort getting there. Keep going until the pain stops and then just keep going.

Wisdom ^

I hope the pain never stops. It’s what teaches us

True...as my father always said, "Pain is a great teacher."

It forges us into stronger and wiser versions of ourselves and or former selves...as long as we are talking about the pain that comes with changing and transforming ourselves into better stronger people.

Um, I'm not one to bear crosses.

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional

The only way I'll martyr myself is for my own morality.

You should post this in /r/buddhism and see what response you get.

Life is suffering. It's how you understand, learn, and grow from that suffering that can shape your life for the better.

I don't know why people are so negative about this post. It is well known and accepted by conspiracists that this sort of enlightenment is what "they" don't want you to have. So talking about it IS pertinent in this sub.

Agreed

Thank you, Lord!!! We praise Him, especially when He speaks!! Thank you for sharing this!

Those of you spamming "what's the conspiracy?" and shitting on OP need to read the sidebar:

This is a forum for free thinking and discussing issues which have captured the public’s imagination. Please respect other views and opinions, and keep an open mind.

This should be on r/lifeprotips. It doesn not belong on r/conspiracy. Sure, have an open mind. But, also have a conspiracy.

Just trying to help inspire others to be better

That doesnt change anything he just said.

You guys might be a little too focused on the nuts and bolts of conspiracies.

There’s a lot of aspects to this control system, one of them is seperation or should I say the illusion of seperation. I think a lot of people benefited from the message, like I did, and I was simply trying to share it. I and others on this sight seem to do this kind of thing a lot, it’s not really far off enough to be criticized in my opinion.

It's being promoted for the "we are creators" Luciferian new age agenda. If it was about how his dad was saved by confessing Jesus Christ as Lord the result would have been removal of post.

Thank you

free thinking

Unless you criticize Trump, of course.

I read that exact same line once in "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck". Great book that goes more in depth about this sort of stuff.

Cute, but God isn't letting little girls choose their pain when they get their clit sliced off in tribal rituals. God isn't letting women in labor choose their pain. God didn't tell me to choose my pain.

That's nice for your dad, but God doesn't exist, and if he does, he is unjust. There are starving, dying children in great pain, I guess he's letting them choose that, too.

I understand what you mean. We’re the lucky ones. I think people like that get “more of a pass” in the spiritual realm. Also, my father was one of those kids. He escaped. It can happen.

I don't believe in god. And I don't think it was divine anything. Mind over matter is powerful, but you look at those kids. Starving. Stomachs distended from worms. Almost all of them die, and it is awful.

I'm sorry your dad was sick, but it's more likely modern medicine and positivity changed him than a god that let's children die awfully than letting a grown man who has progeny and essentially lived his life, pass on.

There is a lot of evil in this world, and I don't see anything divine coming in and stopping that. No. What we see are people looking the other way, allowing it to happen, and when those people have been turned away by other people, they turn to god. They plead with god. And God turns away from them, too.

This has nothing to do with religion or baptised or not. God just isn't real. But modern medicine is. And so are my hands. Those two things together help more than an imaginary friend ever could.

I understand exactly what you’re saying and we need people like you in this time in history, so thank you. I guess I’m in the middle; I’ve had supernatural experiences, I know that there’s something else out there; not sure what exactly, but I think it’s “good”

If people wanna believe in a specific god, you should let them, doesn’t that help deal with pain in the same manner that, say, comforting a dying soldier would?

Have you ever seen the movie ‘The Invention of Lying’?

Great movie.

Basically Ricky Gervais lives in a world where everyone has to tell the truth all the time, there’s no god, there’s no heaven, there’s a lot of suicide, and old people get left behind, it’s all very cruel. Well one day this poor old lady on her deathbed is hyperventilating as she’s about to die and “enter the blackness” when Ricky’s character suddenly invents lying. He says “what? No when you die it’s a paradise. You get to see all the people you loved, and everthing is green and harmonious.”

Anyway, you get my point. Better to let people have these ideas whether they’re true or not, to help comfort the weaker of us and not expose them to harsh realities as much.

I don’t know, that’s how I feel about it.

That's a nice, comforting thought.

I've have supernatural experiences myself, but I am certain we just don't have the tech to understand and quantify it all.

I prefer to live in reality, where science and medicine are what heals the sick, not prayers. Prayers don't perform open heart surgery. Prayers don't feed hungry children. And since prayer doesn't do that, what need do you have of a God?

Also, I'd like to say, in all my strange experiences, I've never thought there was a god. Even when my furniture was slammed around my apt by something unseen, terrifying my roommate and I. Not even an experience such as that proved god exists. In fact, if anything, it drew me further from a belief in any diety.

You’re very right, but like I said, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with believing in something.

What do you think that force moving things around was?

Check out the magical world view. It basically describes how we are all fragments of reality just experiencing accepted paradigms of normality, until we push our consciousness out further, and are exposed to the actual chaos of the universe.

I, as well, find this more inspiring and comforting than any god.

Sorry, but Magic isn't reality. Anything magic from old days has been proven to not be magic.

I don't know what moved my furniture around, slamming it into walls. Nothing felt magical about it, it was terrifying. I will say, I'm not going to suddenly gain belief when faced with things like that. There is a real explanation, I just don't know what it is, but to blindly say "it's magic, god is real!" Is, to me, quite a leap.

Additionally, I've seen ufos. One up close and personal. Do I know what I saw was from another world? Nope. And I'm not going to assume I suddenly do when faced with things like this that I suddenly gain knowledge of aliens or ufos. I can only describe what I've seen, what I've been thru, and know that it happened, but I didn't learn anything, except that we truly don't comprehend our own world. Maybe that lack of understanding is magic to you, but to me, it's simply more to learn and understand.

you father knows de wae. de wae of de debil

damn.

Wy is this on r/conspiracy and not r/lifeprotips?

I love this topic.

Like, your dad is sick enough for the hospital and maybe has diabetes-- but we never find out what it really is, because you drop the topic like last week's Lotto numbers. He's just "beaming" and that's enough for the story.

Then, you give your dad no credit at all for what he said. The guy comes off like a toddler who accidentally said something insightful. You have half as many religious jabs at the guy as you do paragraphs. Is there um.. maybe an ax to grind here?

Then it has stuff like, "I mean I say it all the time... we are creators."

Actually imagine someone saying that. Right now.

Then, it's in /r/conspiracy and just full of comments like "that's so insightful!" This is at best a mediocre post on /r/theredpill or /r/iamverysmart.

I just... I don't know. This can't be real. Funny in some meta-humorous /r/conspiracy way, but not real.

You missed the message, and no, I was doing my best to present it in a concise way. In no way was I attempting to belittle my own father. We’re very different, he and I, but we’re the closest of friends, and we share an epic lifelong dialogue about philosophy, history, and religion that is second to none. So no, you would be wrong. He’s more intelligent than anyone else I know and has saved 10,000 people from heroin abuse, as he himself was an abuser. He’s a real life hero, and just because I disagree with part of his religion doesn’t mean I or you should think any less of him.

Why are you being down voted.

I not sure lol it’s all good most people seem to have agreed with the message

What's the conspiracy here? Did you mean to post in /r/christianity?

It's my favorite quote: "You either suffer the pain of discipline, or you suffer the pain of regret. "

Thanks for sharing

I chose the pain brought on by eating nothing but a cheese and fiber diet. The struggle between the two brings me peace.

Lol great username

Sorry to burst your bubble OP but my daughter just lost a close friend and her best friend just lost her husband who appeared to be as a fit as fiddle and an energetic 28 year old who dropped-dead playing his usual weekend pick-up hockey game with his friends.

His autopsy revealed a congenital defect in his heart that simply gave way due to the exertion that day that no one could actually have ever been aware of. I'm afraid it works both ways and the results of any choice, no matter how good or healthy it may appear can have unintended consequences... even deadly ones.

I’m sorry for the losses, but we choose our pain. We can choose to be upset or to be thankful. We can choose to walk in physicality despite its dangers. There are risks, but most of choose to go on.

Your father is wise. And for you to share this. You should be proud to wear your fathers name. All things are perfect. All moments divine.

Thank you, and yes despite our differences, he’s the best man I know. He’s a bit stuck on his religion, but his life proves that even in a flawed institution heroes can reside.

Wow what a revelation, your Dad and more importantly the Big G are correct. Suffering is inherent in material life. We have free will to choose our consequences. Namaste~

What insight, awesome!!

"Pay now or pay later" jocko

I like this a lot. Nice post OP!

No pain, no gain. No hard times, no evolutionary growth. :)

We are all gods.

Thank you.

Damn, I like that a lot. Thanks for sharing. Definitely a cool outlook contemplate

from Ribbonfarm (experiments in refactored perception):

Here is how you disturb the universe to make meaning. It isn’t pretty, and there’s a reason most who are able to do it on a grand scale are above forty.

Winning before making. This is survival.

Making before beauty. This is perpetuation.

Beauty before virtue. This is leadership.

Virtue before truth. This is realism.

To win you may need to do destructive, ugly, vicious, and false things.

Then, to create, you may need to do ugly, vicious, and false things.

To make your creations endure, so they don’t go away when you stop  believing in them, you may need to do beautiful, vicious, and false things.

Then, you may need to do beautiful, virtuous, and false things to create happiness.

And finally, you may choose to seek truth. This is an optional, meaningless, and essentially solitary activity. Something the immortal and free may choose to do, to entertain themselves in the amusement park that is the part of eternity that does not go away when you stop believing in it.

This should be stickied^

Absolute wisdom

Knowledge is pain

Op I really thought this was profound . Think you should tell your dad the effect of his words on you

Oh I did I even texted him this morning reminding him. I’m hoping we can bounce some positivity off of each other.

Life is about pain and suffering. It has to be this way to balance out all of the joy & good feelings we have in this world.

The only true problem with our lives is take everything fore-granted, become conceited and even take ourselves fore-granted no matter what we do or achieve.

Very good post.. Im a risk taker so I can understand your point. Is a good message to spread. Choose your pain.. I will defintelly keep that in mind for further decistions.

Thanks, I needed this.

Pain it is!

Thanks for this, really needed it today. Have a great day.

Great post!

That's nice and all but why wouldn't a Christian think these things?

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Cool how He drops truth bombs on His children when they are ready.

OP, congrats! I made the decision two years ago to cut the cord and start a business. Two of the best decisions I've ever made. Had a meeting this morning with my best friend. He informed me about all the Hollywood rapists, and I informed him about the Franklin scandal. Anyway, I'm hoping to take my biz full time this year to get out from under the corporate thumb that's constantly trying to squash me. I also want to buy some unrestricted land and build myself a Yurt home to escape the trap of the conventional mortgage, and I'd love to know a bank won't take away my house if I lose a job or if my biz doesn't go as planned. To me, that's security. To me, a job is the most insecure position anyone could ever be in, especially in a fire at will state. Anyway, enough rambling. I don't really get happy very often. I think it's the most over rated emotion. But I often get glad. And your post makes me glad. Thanks for posting!

Great post. I recently watched my father slowly die. I "choose" to fill my heart with gratitude rather than regret, loss, and self inadequacy.

Pain can be presented by outward circumstance but suffering is created by mind, self, and ego.

Great post.

I’m sorry to hear about your father. You seem like you’re doing a good job of honoring him, good luck my friend

Awesome post

I heard a fat person say this once. Exercise and eating right isn't hard. What's hard is being fat. Feeling like shit both physically and mentally all the time. That's what's hard. Diabetes is hard. Being tired all the time is hard. Fearing a heart attack at any moment is hard.

Choose your pain.

I like it.

Amen

You sure he didnt say

"jeez, you're a pain"?

Great post! Thank you for sharing!

Fucking. Yikes. 😬

I needed this, thank you.

I use this one. Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

That's a subreddit

Subbed

It is already a subreddit, bur you are aware that anyone can create a subreddit right?

Thank you.

It's crazy. My upbringing wasn't the most dignified let's say, but many kids I tutored had almost horrific lives. It's tough not to feel. Can you imagine being a good athlete, great chance at Ivy League and such, who has to go to school, go home, and then work a family restaurant in an inner city? Or being a middle schooler tasked with attending to a twin bed-ridden with a severe genetic disease in her "free time". The maturity some kids show is mind-boggling, and I probably looked up to them as much as the other way around.

The conspiracy is that people don't understand the true power of their minds.

Lol great username

So what you're saying is that it's all pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo?