2 factor authentication....
20 2018-01-27 by Lord_Augastus
It links your online identity with your phone for security, unintended effect, it links your online identity with your real identity on a device that can be/is tracked at any moment. Gathers your data, and lets face it...
Google and FB have been gathering data and building up identity based on your online usage anyway (both official and unofficial), its not long now until total control of the internet. And we are all giving away our privacy for 'safety'. For anyone still on the fence on how close you/we all are to that universal identity linking our banking, government (real identity, tax, medical, history, education etc etc etc), social accounts, and now various online accounts like reddit. Into a universal account akin to Chinas citizen system. Russia phobia, is underway, russia cyber warfare is going to reach a breaking point, they cant establish any real evidence, so the narrative has switched to Facebook influence/social media influence. As stated earlier, the freedom, and privacy in exchange for safety. Next piece is the Net Neutrality repeal, meaning privatisation of the internet is step one, then for your safety so will the internet be locked down. And a unified identity will be the next step after that, so we can all differentiate from "foreign agents", or more accurately so we can know who is a part of 'us" and who is "them"(them being those who are not on 'our' system).
27 comments
1 Lord_Augastus 2018-01-27
Personally my life is insignificant and unimportant to care, and being a part of such system means nothing to me. But historically, should we really allow such control, Give the greedy elite an inch they take your freedom after all.
1 coolshifts 2018-01-27
I've been thinking about this. I think the only answer is to create junk identities. Not for anything nefarious. Just something that separates your real identity from throwaway sites. Like one just for social media, one for signing up for rewards programs and such business, and your precious real identity for banking. This way they can track you all they want but there's a firewall.
1 CelineHagbard 2018-01-27
There's been talk in policy circles for requiring real identities to be tied to social media, and even for all internet traffic. I think that's one of the endgoals that the Russian "social media interference" is setting the stage for. You can see it in a lot of their arguments.
1 Lord_Augastus 2018-01-27
Glad some people can see what I mean. ANd China has a citizen score, how far of imagination do you have to have to see something liek that coming to social media tied to real identities?
1 coolshifts 2018-01-27
Agreed except for the part about net neutrality. Net neutrality puts the government in the driver's seat. What's needed is private options. Don't like some organization? You can choose another. But with the government in charge there are no other options. Everybody is the same.
1 Lord_Augastus 2018-01-27
Since the government atm is corporate run....the control is right where it needs to be .
1 Putin_loves_cats 2018-01-27
Fuckin', thank you!
1 Rockran 2018-01-27
Except in cases where there's a monopoly, or otherwise a lack of options.
1 CelineHagbard 2018-01-27
There's a strong argument to be made that municipal governments are to blame for the monopolies, or at least play a very large role.
1 coolshifts 2018-01-27
Still a clear winner. Absolute versus possible. With the private sector there are sometimes monopolies (which are illegal by the way) or simply lack of good choices. But at least there are choices. With government regulations it's all the same no matter what. Multiple choices but all the same rules. So no real choice.
1 bradok 2018-01-27
Agreed except for this, it is the intended effect.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2018-01-27
The day Reddit implements this, will be the day I sign off (voluntarily - this time).
1 CelineHagbard 2018-01-27
They've had it as an option for a while for mods I think, and are planning on rolling it out as an option for all users pretty soon if they haven't already.
They day they make it mandatory is the day they officially digg their own grave. The company is greedy and amoral, but I don't think they're that stupid.
1 Ive_gone_guano 2018-01-27
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/25/reddit-two-factor-authentication/
1 U96Q69 2018-01-27
Reddit mobile app comes in mind; without using it, mobile web browser can be very slow to load reddit.
1 Ive_gone_guano 2018-01-27
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/25/reddit-two-factor-authentication/
1 cianuro 2018-01-27
Except 2fa with your phone number is one OF MANY forms of 2fa. You can use 2fa without linking a phone number or even a phone. If you're using your phone number, you're not doing it right, or securely.
So... Your premise kind of goes out the window when facts are exposed no?
1 Lord_Augastus 2018-01-27
What other 2fa are there?
1 wololoPriestAoE 2018-01-27
An authentication app like lastpass, Google authentication or Microsoft authentication. Install it on your phone, scan the qr code, and when you login, inputted code you get.
1 Lord_Augastus 2018-01-27
So...an app on your phone? the same very thing I posted about.
1 blue_limit1 2018-01-27
Apple is also making Two Factor almost impossible to avoid at this point, if it matters any.
And this one, when you sign in with your account, it automatically makes your phone a trusted device, and having a trusted phone # is an important part of the process as well.
I do support calls for them.
1 fgunhcgyhbffjj 2018-01-27
Yubikey
1 jnugnevermoves 2018-01-27
Digital certs on yubikey. Some will do email two factor with a code, but it’s rare.
1 AmishAtomicPhysicist 2018-01-27
When you get on the Internet you are consenting to lose all privacy and law enforcement needs no warrants to track or trace you apparently. Ask the guy who ran silk road doing life in prison..that's what they said. On clear or dark web, vpn or not your still consenting to be tracked and data mined,pretty much. That's why he's still locked up. You don't actually consent but thier argument was "you know it can happen so it's the risk you take" so just know they can do whatever.
1 swordofdamocles42 2018-01-27
this is the one that keeps me awake at night... they have tricked us into not being a real flesh human. we are now paper or digital strawmen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hlko&t=5s
1 nuclearsprout 2018-01-27
I'm absolutely certain 'security' is kind of bullshit. Governments just want to track peoples online behavior and connect phone/desktop usage seemlessly. The fuckers.
1 n0mar 2018-01-27
Two-Factor Authentication can be online and also offline.
Online: uses phone, SMS, calling, email, etc. Anything that needs to be connected.
Offline: uses an algorithm. You may see QR codes, or something to copy and paste. Backup codes is also included as an offline method.
Services that provide offline 2FA, but not limited to:
1 jnugnevermoves 2018-01-27
There’s are hardware ways, too. Such as yubikey with digital certs.
1 Amazonistrash 2018-01-27
If you can use a 2fa app that doesnt require your phone number whats the problem? SMS 2fa is easily intercepted anyway.
1 CelineHagbard 2018-01-27
There's a strong argument to be made that municipal governments are to blame for the monopolies, or at least play a very large role.
1 coolshifts 2018-01-27
Still a clear winner. Absolute versus possible. With the private sector there are sometimes monopolies (which are illegal by the way) or simply lack of good choices. But at least there are choices. With government regulations it's all the same no matter what. Multiple choices but all the same rules. So no real choice.