Most obvious advice ever.
111 2018-02-01 by snstrmstch
If you smoke cigarettes, you should stop. What are ya, a dummy? I have been for a long time, but I'm trying to stop now, and when you make the decision it becomes clear that there is an INDUSTRY built on taking your money for killing yourself. It sucks but if your going to make an impact at all or vote with your dollars, start here God dammit.
105 comments
1 irwin_normal 2018-02-01
good on ya. Nothing motivates me like indignation. Right behind you.
1 BuyTheTicketTakeTR87 2018-02-01
I moved to vape, but now I worry that my nicotine addiction has increased 10-fold. Have a feeling quitting this will be worse than qutting the smokes.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
That's what I'm on the end of my 1st day on, and I see your point because of how well it's working for me so far. I've tried one of those huge robodick looking vapes before and gave up. I bought a smaller lighter-sized one yesterday and been pretty well content all day with it. Honestly, I'd rather be addicted to this than sticking something in my mouth and setting it on fire 20 times a day though.
1 d3rr 2018-02-01
Yes, keep it up. I vape like it's going out of style but at least it's not carcinogenic. The robodicks take some getting used to, but someday you will want the huge clouds that they put out. They seem wet/heavy for a while but you get used to it.
1 BuyTheTicketTakeTR87 2018-02-01
Yeh I agree it’s much better for you, but I feel that nicotine itself is a very harmful compound to the himan body. Stick with the vape for now though, I’m actually at the point where I tried a cogarette about three months ago, and felt sick! You can really taste the chemicals that they stick in cigarettes after not having one for a long time. I could never go back, which is good.
1 hinzmo 2018-02-01
Vapes can bean excellent tool to quit smoking but also keep in mind that even vaping can potentially cause popcorn lungs and honestly beyond that it hasn't really been super popular long enough for us to know what the long terms effects of it are either. Just putting that out there for the sake of harm reduction
1 fuck_you2 2018-02-01
To be fair nobody has ever gotten popcorn lung from vaping. They used extremely small amounts of the same chemicals that flooded the air of factories in certain juice lines but after the media hysteria I don't believe any company uses it. I forget the name, diactyl maybe
1 Needmyvape 2018-02-01
Major producers say they have quit using it but some still use flavors with a very similar compound. One of those "msg free (but contains an ingredient with naturally occurring msg so we don't have to list it.)
I'm weary of most flavors and even pg and vg for that matter. I've attempted to mitigate this by mixing my own juice and using a fraction of a percentage healthy normal flavor addition. It doesn't taste as good but I feel a little bit less worried about vaping it.
1 Loud_Volume 2018-02-01
W-what's popcorn lungs?
1 piles_of_SSRIs 2018-02-01
Big Tobacco propaganda
1 hinzmo 2018-02-01
Its when your lungs expand then pop like popcorn kernels
1 Loud_Volume 2018-02-01
Sounds like a fun time lol
1 hinzmo 2018-02-01
To each his own I suppose lol
1 mwiegel2 2018-02-01
It's hard to do, but it's possible. I use to smoke 2 packs a day, and switch to vaping and quit smoking cigs instantly. After a couple years vaping, I finally tried to quit so I just keep lowering my nicotine until I was smoking 0mg. I smoked that for about a month, needing it less and less daily to break the habit. And then one day I just decided I didn't need it with me anymore and hasn't picked it up since.
1 BuyTheTicketTakeTR87 2018-02-01
Yeh that’s the plan. Started on 18mg, used 12mg, now on 6mg with a view to 3mg then 0 for a bit. Even with the 6 though I find I need it a lot more than the higher strengths
1 Slomogotoslo 2018-02-01
Congrats man
1 Justsaguy12345 2018-02-01
The funniest thing about vaping is most of them containnsugar which feeds certain pathogens.
1 philosophocles 2018-02-01
Nicotine is nearly harmless by itself. It's all the other garbage in cigarettes that cause problems.
1 BuyTheTicketTakeTR87 2018-02-01
Isn’t nicotine a vasoconstrictor though? But I agree, carbob monoxide, the tar and the chemicals in cigarettes are unbelievably harmful
1 Quaildorf 2018-02-01
I think it's reasonable to call it nearly harmless. All drugs have side effects, but the majority of problems associated with smoking are due to the smoking, not the nicotine.
1 Loud_Volume 2018-02-01
Why not just taper yourself off and slowly start using less and less nicotine percentage in your vape juice? Eventually work your way down to 0%
1 BuyTheTicketTakeTR87 2018-02-01
Haha :)
1 petedacook 2018-02-01
I quit smoking and started vaping 4-5 years ago (it's been so long I can't recall exactly how long ago). The first year or two I vaped quite often, all the time if i was at home. After a while, I just started to vape less and less. About 4 weeks ago I came down with pneumonia, and couldn't vape because it made me cough.
I found I didn't really miss it a great deal. Some people said i vaped less because vaping delivers an inconsistent amount of nicotine and over time my addiction lessened. I can't explain it.
1 ignoremsmedia 2018-02-01
I always get indignant ..when I haven't had a smoke in while.
mmm that Larame taste.
1 SpinPHD480 2018-02-01
Probably gonna sound like a dick here, but you haven’t even quit yet. Despite agreeing with your advice, you’re not best messenger.
With that said, good luck and hope you stop being the dummy yourself.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
You're 100% Right, but I feel like realizing the dummy I've been had been the key to my motivation all along, and I've found a suitable crutch for now. I'm not trying to preach from the finish line, I'm just hoping I can share with others what has clicked with me and how it could possibly reach those in this community. Conspiracy on the tip of your nose and such.
1 SpinPHD480 2018-02-01
I get it mate. I’ve been there. I was probably a little harsh in my comment. Good for you, if helping you quit means giving advice do what you gotta do. If you need help though, don’t resist it either.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
Can't fight the man if you can't breathe. And thank you for the well-wishes. I'm bound and determined as much as much as I've ever been before, with only continuing results to measure by. I can live with that. Hopefully longer.
1 DonnaGail 2018-02-01
Best of luck on quitting!
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
Thank you!
1 Arlequose 2018-02-01
Try replacing it with a less bad oral fixation meanwhile if it's hard for you to quit. Until you really do quit. Lollipops, light chips, etc. I used to bite the skin of my knuckles when I quit biting my nails, it helped
1 acilez 2018-02-01
sunflower seeds, beef jerky even gum
1 allahfalsegod 2018-02-01
Sure, don't be stupid. Isn't it nice that all data backs up what you just wrote? You're 70 years or more too late...
This may be the first time a hollywood movie is linked here on /r/conspiracy.
Our "smoking" is the emission of green house gases. Ask yourself, what's next? You can't get ahead of it, the '90s demonstrated that. Who benefits, generation after generation? Wealth begets wealth 10x more than it's "lost" in third generation of third child.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
... you okay buddy?
1 allahfalsegod 2018-02-01
My bad, I read it as if you were 18 and never smoked.
I was stupid... started smoking knowing the risks. There was a solid year when i only smoked socially. Vaping is the lesser of two evils but it's become a hobby.
Still, Thank you for Smoking is a good flick.
1 Esdarke 2018-02-01
Tobacco is the largest, most obvious, and longest running conspiracy in history.
1 BusterBunny420 2018-02-01
Lol k
It’s not that serious.
1 conspthrowawayy 2018-02-01
cuz nobody ever smoked prior to the existence of corporations et al, right? =)
1 Lord_Augastus 2018-02-01
The scary thing is how many movies from hollywood and US in general are now coming out with actors smoking! Pretty much the majority of modern 1st world nations are taking stance against cigarettes, and here is USA/Hollywood film and TV where cigarettes are a popular thing!
IS that the solution for the overpopulation Capitalist swine (the evil capitalists) have, give everyone cancer so they die sooner? And its clearly most potent form of propaganda/advertising in developing nations, those that dotn have modern social structures and services. I saw a documentary that in asian nations, poorest asian nations children's, very young children smoke cigarettes, they are being sold right outside schools. Its disgusting, how for profits we allow such practices. Its not just one thing thouhg is it, war on fat, to suppress the ruth that it is sugar that is doing it all. Its carsonagens, its polluted water, its corporations telling us WATER is not a human right....like who the fuck they think they are to take away human rights because they found a way to make a profit. We need the socialist movement, otherwise the greed will kill us all.
1 thebeefytaco 2018-02-01
You could say the same thing about the alcohol or sugar industries...
It's not beneficial to tobacco producers to lose their clients. There's no purposeful poisoning going on here.
1 vidarheheh 2018-02-01
Do you have access to a sauna? A week in a sauna will cleanse your body pretty well, and rid you of all the chemicals in your body, again making you crave it much much less. Worked wonders for me when I quit... eeh... I don’t know if you have a English word for it, I think it’s gotten popular elsewhere than Scandinavia now as well, but have no idea what it’s called.. tobacco you put under your lip, or as we say in Norway.. snus
1 DoublePlusGoodly 2018-02-01
In the US, it's known as chewing tobacco, but commonly referred to as dip, snus, snuff, snuff tobacco, chew, chaw, or dipping tobacco.
1 bombsaway1979 2018-02-01
snuff, dip, chew, and snus are all different things. They're all orally-ingested tobacco, but they're not all the same.
1 conspthrowawayy 2018-02-01
i hear this repeated an awful lot: "once the chemicals are out of your body, all is well!" but is incorrect. if you are going to have withdrawal symptoms, they will occur as the substance depletes in your body; they will be at their worst when there is no more left in the body. this is because the body has gotten so used to functioning with said substance for so long that without it it is off-kilter and must find balance.
1 VintageOG 2018-02-01
If I were trying to live a long life, i'd quit
1 BusterBunny420 2018-02-01
Ugh, same sentiment here.
1 Comethatmebro 2018-02-01
perspective. Future you might not feel the same and if you don't start the change now, doors will be closed when you want to live longer.
1 VintageOG 2018-02-01
perspective. I give up smoking, just in case my future self wants to live another 4 years. I wish I wouldve died a decade earlier, and just missed out of 40 years of wonderful smoking.
perspective. I quit smoking, I get hit by a car while walking to grab a snack, when otherwise, I would've been out having a smoke safely.
ect, ect.....
Live for the now, your future isn't guaranteed, or whatever
1 yummypeanutjelly 2018-02-01
Sure in an understand that, but I’ve been present when people have receive bad news, and in that moment saw all this bravado change and turn to something like this. “Oh god please let me get through this and I’ll change my ways”. It’s easy having this attitude now, but when you’re dealing with the reality of what cancer or other terrible diseases that come with smoking, the tune ALWAYS changes.
You’re giving a huge company your hard earned dollars so that you can slowly and painfully kill yourself.
1 LEGALinSCCCA 2018-02-01
"Live for the now" is the mantra of evil, debauchery, and is the idea that is causing the rot of humanity.
1 Quaildorf 2018-02-01
Strongly disagree. Living in the present can lead to hedonism, but I think the biggest problem humanity faces today is greed. The only downside of hedonism is a potentially early grave.
1 bombsaway1979 2018-02-01
When people give me shit for smoking, I always tell 'em it's just a part of my long, elaborate, drawn-out suicide.
1 LEGALinSCCCA 2018-02-01
It's not just about you. if you have kids do you want them to be healthy? They wont if they see you smoking, because they will likely start. You also perpetuate the mere existence of smoking. Also, everyone hates being near smokers. They can't help it, it stinks. i smoked for 12 years and I get sick from the smell. I understand why you smoke. But there's more to this universe than your lack of a desire to life a long life. I certainly don't want to live a long life either. i suffer from chronic pain, scoliosis, fibromyalgia, minor brain damage, multiple mental health issues. I'm really fucked up...But i realized how big the picture is. I am a small but significant part. I influence people every day. THose people go on to influence others. And so on. Every thing you do has quantum waves in reality. A "wake" like a boat. The smallest thing can have an enormous effect on the universe. And the smallest thing, ignorance, is ALLOWING the universe (our earth humanity)to rot and die.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
That's the idea. I have 3 kids that are gonna need me around for a while.
1 agreedis 2018-02-01
I smoke because the government makes so many commercials telling me not to
1 ShillAmbassador 2018-02-01
How do we know cigarettes are bad for you? Because a bunch of NWO doctors told you?
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
Gonna go with common sense and first hand experience of my declining stamina and mucus production on that one.
1 Kyroshill 2018-02-01
“Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times.” - Mark Twain
1 psy_raven 2018-02-01
You should quit smoking. No doubt about it. But you should also realize that no one has the right to demand that you quit smoking. I really get worried when the government tries to force you to make personal decisions. That sugary drinks tax in Seattle really bothers me. We are living in a hodgepodge combination of Huxleyan and Orwellian society and and we don't even realize it.
The whole hysteria concerning lung cancer and second hand smoke is mostly propaganda to draw you away from the real culprits of cancer in the US; a whole slew of chemicals, packaging, preservatives, pesticides, and 100s of other factors. If you don't believe me, just consider that the US has a much much lower percent of population of smokers than the Far East. Yet the US's lung cancer (and other cancers in general) dwarf the rates in the Far East. If you've ever been to Korea, China, or Japan, you know what I'm talking about. Everyone is puffing away over there. Yet they boast one of the lowest lung cancer rates in the world.
1 Voqals 2018-02-01
I understand your sentiment about government telling us what we can and cannot do to our bodies.
1 can coke has about 40gram of sugar. Go to a fast food restaurant or a Costco/Walmart and you'll see what the unhealthy looking people are drinking. We have some of the highest obesity rates in the world. It's not just a problem anymore its an epidemic that has triggered movements such as the fat acceptance movement. I don't mean to imply that it is just soda that is the problem but curbing access to unhealthy foods may be advantageous to the overall average population. After the implementation of the tax, consumption of sugary drinks declined and that may not be a bad thing. Here is an article i googled for some added reading. http://www.newsweek.com/sugar-sweetened-beverages-soda-cheaper-obesity-cancer-diabetes-594827
1 psy_raven 2018-02-01
And where does it end? Deep fried foods also contribute to obesity. Should we tax fried chicken next? Then what? Should we start taxing people who go outdoors without sunscreen on their skin since we know it causes cancer? After that, perhaps we can start taxing people who drive to work instead of riding a bicycle if they live within one mile of their work place. Because burning fossile fuel is bad for the environment.
The whole point is this. When the government starts penalizing the whole populace because some of the populace has a problem with it, the govt is stomping out liberty. This is exactly the case for drugs. Do a whole lot of people try drugs? Yes. Do all of them become addicted to it? No. Do some? Yes. So we place a penalty on the entire population by making it illegal.
1 redditeditard 2018-02-01
And for fuck's sake, do not become a vapist.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
It's my crutch for now, and 2 days in it's working so far. I got the smallest one I could find and have zero interest in all that cloud-blowing bullshit or tricks or stupid ass flavors. I got menthol juice and plan on tapering the nicotine level off weekly until I don't need to vape at all. The "culture" around vaping is a bit cringey for me, and I want no part of it lol.
1 redditeditard 2018-02-01
Yes, the culture sucks, but inhaling the ingredients is insane. Cold turkey sucks for about a week and then you're free. No more money. No more stupid refills and clunky machines. No charging. Just your lungs and tastebuds back.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
You're right, just figuring out compromises that work toward my end goal for now. I've tried to quit maybe 10 times now (started at 16, I'm now almost 34), and while it's definitely not necessarily healthy, it's effective enough for me to not smoke under circumstances where I normally would have. My 4 month old daughter had surgery to correct a problem causing her to have sleep apnea and constricted airways yesterday morning, and 2 days ago I worked my final 14 hour shift at a job I fucking hated, and through all that, I haven't smoked at all, only hit my vape when the urge hit me.
1 Bikertron 2018-02-01
I got hold of some thc oil and now cigarettes and joints feel like some old-fashioned hobby
1 eryg5 2018-02-01
LMFAO.
1 Fendisaoming 2018-02-01
Hey Im trying to quit too. Been smoking for 10 years now, started at 17.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
Good luck!
1 MisoSoup 2018-02-01
I quit after trying and failing for years. The trick that worked for me was realising that I wasn't giving something up, I was gaining something - health, money and a great sense of achievement.
1 mrpooybutthole 2018-02-01
I quit a few years ago and it was the best decision I've ever made. Even after a few months I started feeling better, more alive and less depressed.
I used the patch, which if you use the cheap ones cost less than smoking. A lot of smokers I know try to go cold turkey, but end up failing. I think they want to prove they have the will power. Don't be afraid to hack you body. If I smoked with a patch on Id feel sick so it really builds that negative reinforcement. I had to sleep with it on or I would want one in the morning. The crazy dreams were kinda fun tho.
Best of luck
1 shortadamlewis 2018-02-01
Good luck dude!
1 hohothenaughtyelf 2018-02-01
Is it really a conspiracy that cigarettes are not healthy?
1 sackajahweeda 2018-02-01
It can totally be done!! When I started in Florida they were 1.10 a pack and I SWORE I WOULD NEVER PAY 2.00...When I quit in Rhode Island they were almost 8 buck a pack!!! Never again will I pollute the earth with filters that take HUNDREDS OF YEARS to break down as well as give an evil empire almost 10 bucks a day either. You can do it people you smell so much better your food tastes better...YOU LIVE!!! Peace yall.
1 Cherrylicious12 2018-02-01
Multiple.
1 Cevar7 2018-02-01
I don’t understand cigarettes. There are ways to enjoy smoking, like a cherry pipe. Instead, people smoke those stinky disgusting tasting things.
1 Dat_Chad 2018-02-01
it gets better after the first 100 cigs
1 Antin0de 2018-02-01
The animal-agriculture industry puts the cigarette industry to shame in this regard, once you realize that there is absolutely no nutritional requirement to eat any animal products. And indeed, pretty much all the medical science seems to indicate that the less animal products you eat, the healthier you will be. Vegans know this, and it's one of the many reasons we choose to live as vegans. It is an industry of death- it kills you, it kills the animals, and it kills the environment.
Good luck on quitting smoking.
1 YouSeaBlue 2018-02-01
For the first time ever, I have some interest in cutting back. Like, way back. I am allowing myself 5 per day right now (I've had one day with 2 and I also went over one or 2 days).
If I start to think about that "last cigarette ever" I get anxious and it makes me want to smoke, so I'm attacking it with the best defense I got. Procrastination. If I just keep distracting myself, I can go many hours without smoking. For now, I'm using the patch, so I am still getting nicotine, I know that isn't ideal, but it is at least an improvement.
Good luck quitting! Just figure out what motivates you. It took me a long time to do that part.
1 SatanIsMySaviour 2018-02-01
That’s basically how I quit. There was about 9 months-a year where I would smoke between 1-5 a day but I wouldn’t worry too much that it was talking so long to get down to 0 for the rest of my life because those 1-5/day prevented me from jumping right back into 20/day which I probably would have if I had allowed the anxiety to compound by completely avoiding cigarettes before I was truly ready to do so
1 SatanIsMySaviour 2018-02-01
Good luck, it look me something like 15 attempts over 5 years to finally quit. It can be hard, some times it will feel impossible, but if you can quit then I guarantee you will feel the relief on your lungs in just a few weeks. Don’t underestimate the task at hand, it will require consistent mental effort to rewrite your brain’s prototypical response of “Damn id love a cigarette right now” but a day will come when your brain says something more like “A cigarette? Fuck no I don’t wanna wheeze and cough my way to an early grave.”
1 Dat_Chad 2018-02-01
ya but how? 10 hours into quitting I'm in full on panic mode
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
I got a little vape and am using a menthol 18mg juice (menthol smoker). 40 bucks for the vape and the juice, less than a carton, and I'm finishing day 2 with minimal cravings. The vape works great for me so far, but to each their own.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
The vape model is an Aspire "Breeze".
1 chachakhan 2018-02-01
I quit 146 days ago. Still finding it difficult and have daily urges. But Im sticking to it...
1 Downhere_Seeds 2018-02-01
Prayers to OP. I smoked for 15 years, quit 2.5 years ago. This is a very tough habit to break, I tried for years to quit and was finally able to with help from a Dr who prescribed Chantix and Welbutrin and also needed personal resolve and prayers. I was off both these meds after only a few months. Praise God
1 Stuckin_Foned 2018-02-01
You can do it. Once you've quit for a while you start to realize how disgusting it is.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
I'm vaping, but will be tapering down on the nicotine over the next month by 50% per week, and giving myself 1 month of 0mg for March to put it all down altogether.
1 LOTR_pippin 2018-02-01
Pedofilia in Hollywood. Sexual Abuse in Hollywood. Corruption in the highest places in government. Saudi Arabia purging. North Korea going nuclear. Of all the fucking conspiracy theories, now, now you chose to post about fucking cigs? A fact (not a theory) that they purposly got the public addicted and knew it was harmful?
Dudes wtf is this? Is this Dr. Phil? Cuz I thought this was a conspiracy sub. Jesus Christ. Get your cig talk over to a more main stream sub please.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
All of those things are external to my everyday life, although I am concerned about them. I just realized that the conspiracy most affecting my day to day was my addiction to smoking and decided to use that as motivation to stop letting something so obviously harmful be a part of my life anymore.
1 Cobra-Serpentress 2018-02-01
I thought the Most obvious was: for better health drink more water.
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
You're not wrong. I've also been drinking iced water from the same Old Fashioned glass that I'd typically been drinking vodka/soda from to help curb my cravings. Being less drunk has made the cravings easier to resist.Not trying to quit drinking altogether though. One vice at a time for me, and I consider drinking in moderation vastly less harmful than smoking cigs for me.
1 Cobra-Serpentress 2018-02-01
I managed to quit the Smoking and am slowing down on the drinking.
1 Little-nug 2018-02-01
I'll quit smoking the day cigarette packets stop writing threatening messages and gross pictures. Also after every health professional will stop lying that it causes cancer because it fucking doesn't. It increases the chances, which is not a cause
1 snstrmstch 2018-02-01
Being shot increases the chances of dying from blood loss, that doesn't mean it also isn't the cause.
1 Little-nug 2018-02-01
That example is in no way the same. Why are we not paying attention to other factors that cause lung cancer and only address smoking, when the risk only increases by <10%? (http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/editorials/vol-1/e1-4.htm)
I don't promote smoking in any way or form, but believe we should be told the truth and take other causes just as seriously.
1 psychadelian 2018-02-01
It's so hard to quit and I always feel guilty for supporting those companies /sigh
1 shadowbanyourface 2018-02-01
didn’t phillip morris announce they are moving out of smoking products into smokeless vape products.
1 bombsaway1979 2018-02-01
snuff, dip, chew, and snus are all different things. They're all orally-ingested tobacco, but they're not all the same.
1 piles_of_SSRIs 2018-02-01
Big Tobacco propaganda
1 hinzmo 2018-02-01
Its when your lungs expand then pop like popcorn kernels