good on ya. Nothing motivates me like indignation. Right behind you.

I moved to vape, but now I worry that my nicotine addiction has increased 10-fold. Have a feeling quitting this will be worse than qutting the smokes.

Yes, keep it up. I vape like it's going out of style but at least it's not carcinogenic. The robodicks take some getting used to, but someday you will want the huge clouds that they put out. They seem wet/heavy for a while but you get used to it.

Yeh I agree it’s much better for you, but I feel that nicotine itself is a very harmful compound to the himan body. Stick with the vape for now though, I’m actually at the point where I tried a cogarette about three months ago, and felt sick! You can really taste the chemicals that they stick in cigarettes after not having one for a long time. I could never go back, which is good.

Vapes can bean excellent tool to quit smoking but also keep in mind that even vaping can potentially cause popcorn lungs and honestly beyond that it hasn't really been super popular long enough for us to know what the long terms effects of it are either. Just putting that out there for the sake of harm reduction

To be fair nobody has ever gotten popcorn lung from vaping. They used extremely small amounts of the same chemicals that flooded the air of factories in certain juice lines but after the media hysteria I don't believe any company uses it. I forget the name, diactyl maybe

Major producers say they have quit using it but some still use flavors with a very similar compound. One of those "msg free (but contains an ingredient with naturally occurring msg so we don't have to list it.)

I'm weary of most flavors and even pg and vg for that matter. I've attempted to mitigate this by mixing my own juice and using a fraction of a percentage healthy normal flavor addition. It doesn't taste as good but I feel a little bit less worried about vaping it.

W-what's popcorn lungs?

Big Tobacco propaganda

Its when your lungs expand then pop like popcorn kernels

Sounds like a fun time lol

To each his own I suppose lol

It's hard to do, but it's possible. I use to smoke 2 packs a day, and switch to vaping and quit smoking cigs instantly. After a couple years vaping, I finally tried to quit so I just keep lowering my nicotine until I was smoking 0mg. I smoked that for about a month, needing it less and less daily to break the habit. And then one day I just decided I didn't need it with me anymore and hasn't picked it up since.

Yeh that’s the plan. Started on 18mg, used 12mg, now on 6mg with a view to 3mg then 0 for a bit. Even with the 6 though I find I need it a lot more than the higher strengths

Congrats man

The funniest thing about vaping is most of them containnsugar which feeds certain pathogens.

Nicotine is nearly harmless by itself. It's all the other garbage in cigarettes that cause problems.

Isn’t nicotine a vasoconstrictor though? But I agree, carbob monoxide, the tar and the chemicals in cigarettes are unbelievably harmful

I think it's reasonable to call it nearly harmless. All drugs have side effects, but the majority of problems associated with smoking are due to the smoking, not the nicotine.

Why not just taper yourself off and slowly start using less and less nicotine percentage in your vape juice? Eventually work your way down to 0%

Haha :)

I quit smoking and started vaping 4-5 years ago (it's been so long I can't recall exactly how long ago). The first year or two I vaped quite often, all the time if i was at home. After a while, I just started to vape less and less. About 4 weeks ago I came down with pneumonia, and couldn't vape because it made me cough.

I found I didn't really miss it a great deal. Some people said i vaped less because vaping delivers an inconsistent amount of nicotine and over time my addiction lessened. I can't explain it.

I always get indignant ..when I haven't had a smoke in while.

mmm that Larame taste.

Probably gonna sound like a dick here, but you haven’t even quit yet. Despite agreeing with your advice, you’re not best messenger.

With that said, good luck and hope you stop being the dummy yourself.

I get it mate. I’ve been there. I was probably a little harsh in my comment. Good for you, if helping you quit means giving advice do what you gotta do. If you need help though, don’t resist it either.

Best of luck on quitting!

Try replacing it with a less bad oral fixation meanwhile if it's hard for you to quit. Until you really do quit. Lollipops, light chips, etc. I used to bite the skin of my knuckles when I quit biting my nails, it helped

sunflower seeds, beef jerky even gum

Sure, don't be stupid. Isn't it nice that all data backs up what you just wrote? You're 70 years or more too late...

This may be the first time a hollywood movie is linked here on /r/conspiracy.

Our "smoking" is the emission of green house gases. Ask yourself, what's next? You can't get ahead of it, the '90s demonstrated that. Who benefits, generation after generation? Wealth begets wealth 10x more than it's "lost" in third generation of third child.

My bad, I read it as if you were 18 and never smoked.

I was stupid... started smoking knowing the risks. There was a solid year when i only smoked socially. Vaping is the lesser of two evils but it's become a hobby.

Still, Thank you for Smoking is a good flick.

Tobacco is the largest, most obvious, and longest running conspiracy in history.

Lol k

It’s not that serious.

cuz nobody ever smoked prior to the existence of corporations et al, right? =)

The scary thing is how many movies from hollywood and US in general are now coming out with actors smoking! Pretty much the majority of modern 1st world nations are taking stance against cigarettes, and here is USA/Hollywood film and TV where cigarettes are a popular thing!

IS that the solution for the overpopulation Capitalist swine (the evil capitalists) have, give everyone cancer so they die sooner? And its clearly most potent form of propaganda/advertising in developing nations, those that dotn have modern social structures and services. I saw a documentary that in asian nations, poorest asian nations children's, very young children smoke cigarettes, they are being sold right outside schools. Its disgusting, how for profits we allow such practices. Its not just one thing thouhg is it, war on fat, to suppress the ruth that it is sugar that is doing it all. Its carsonagens, its polluted water, its corporations telling us WATER is not a human right....like who the fuck they think they are to take away human rights because they found a way to make a profit. We need the socialist movement, otherwise the greed will kill us all.

and when you make the decision it becomes clear that there is an INDUSTRY built on taking your money for killing yourself.

You could say the same thing about the alcohol or sugar industries...

It's not beneficial to tobacco producers to lose their clients. There's no purposeful poisoning going on here.

Do you have access to a sauna? A week in a sauna will cleanse your body pretty well, and rid you of all the chemicals in your body, again making you crave it much much less. Worked wonders for me when I quit... eeh... I don’t know if you have a English word for it, I think it’s gotten popular elsewhere than Scandinavia now as well, but have no idea what it’s called.. tobacco you put under your lip, or as we say in Norway.. snus

In the US, it's known as chewing tobacco, but commonly referred to as dip, snus, snuff, snuff tobacco, chew, chaw, or dipping tobacco.

snuff, dip, chew, and snus are all different things. They're all orally-ingested tobacco, but they're not all the same.

i hear this repeated an awful lot: "once the chemicals are out of your body, all is well!" but is incorrect. if you are going to have withdrawal symptoms, they will occur as the substance depletes in your body; they will be at their worst when there is no more left in the body. this is because the body has gotten so used to functioning with said substance for so long that without it it is off-kilter and must find balance.

If I were trying to live a long life, i'd quit

Ugh, same sentiment here.

perspective. Future you might not feel the same and if you don't start the change now, doors will be closed when you want to live longer.

perspective. I give up smoking, just in case my future self wants to live another 4 years. I wish I wouldve died a decade earlier, and just missed out of 40 years of wonderful smoking.

perspective. I quit smoking, I get hit by a car while walking to grab a snack, when otherwise, I would've been out having a smoke safely.

ect, ect.....

Live for the now, your future isn't guaranteed, or whatever

Sure in an understand that, but I’ve been present when people have receive bad news, and in that moment saw all this bravado change and turn to something like this. “Oh god please let me get through this and I’ll change my ways”. It’s easy having this attitude now, but when you’re dealing with the reality of what cancer or other terrible diseases that come with smoking, the tune ALWAYS changes.

You’re giving a huge company your hard earned dollars so that you can slowly and painfully kill yourself.

"Live for the now" is the mantra of evil, debauchery, and is the idea that is causing the rot of humanity.

Strongly disagree. Living in the present can lead to hedonism, but I think the biggest problem humanity faces today is greed. The only downside of hedonism is a potentially early grave.

When people give me shit for smoking, I always tell 'em it's just a part of my long, elaborate, drawn-out suicide.

It's not just about you. if you have kids do you want them to be healthy? They wont if they see you smoking, because they will likely start. You also perpetuate the mere existence of smoking. Also, everyone hates being near smokers. They can't help it, it stinks. i smoked for 12 years and I get sick from the smell. I understand why you smoke. But there's more to this universe than your lack of a desire to life a long life. I certainly don't want to live a long life either. i suffer from chronic pain, scoliosis, fibromyalgia, minor brain damage, multiple mental health issues. I'm really fucked up...But i realized how big the picture is. I am a small but significant part. I influence people every day. THose people go on to influence others. And so on. Every thing you do has quantum waves in reality. A "wake" like a boat. The smallest thing can have an enormous effect on the universe. And the smallest thing, ignorance, is ALLOWING the universe (our earth humanity)to rot and die.

I smoke because the government makes so many commercials telling me not to

How do we know cigarettes are bad for you? Because a bunch of NWO doctors told you?

“Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times.” - Mark Twain

You should quit smoking. No doubt about it. But you should also realize that no one has the right to demand that you quit smoking. I really get worried when the government tries to force you to make personal decisions. That sugary drinks tax in Seattle really bothers me. We are living in a hodgepodge combination of Huxleyan and Orwellian society and and we don't even realize it.

The whole hysteria concerning lung cancer and second hand smoke is mostly propaganda to draw you away from the real culprits of cancer in the US; a whole slew of chemicals, packaging, preservatives, pesticides, and 100s of other factors. If you don't believe me, just consider that the US has a much much lower percent of population of smokers than the Far East. Yet the US's lung cancer (and other cancers in general) dwarf the rates in the Far East. If you've ever been to Korea, China, or Japan, you know what I'm talking about. Everyone is puffing away over there. Yet they boast one of the lowest lung cancer rates in the world.

I understand your sentiment about government telling us what we can and cannot do to our bodies.

1 can coke has about 40gram of sugar. Go to a fast food restaurant or a Costco/Walmart and you'll see what the unhealthy looking people are drinking. We have some of the highest obesity rates in the world. It's not just a problem anymore its an epidemic that has triggered movements such as the fat acceptance movement. I don't mean to imply that it is just soda that is the problem but curbing access to unhealthy foods may be advantageous to the overall average population. After the implementation of the tax, consumption of sugary drinks declined and that may not be a bad thing. Here is an article i googled for some added reading. http://www.newsweek.com/sugar-sweetened-beverages-soda-cheaper-obesity-cancer-diabetes-594827

And where does it end? Deep fried foods also contribute to obesity. Should we tax fried chicken next? Then what? Should we start taxing people who go outdoors without sunscreen on their skin since we know it causes cancer? After that, perhaps we can start taxing people who drive to work instead of riding a bicycle if they live within one mile of their work place. Because burning fossile fuel is bad for the environment.

The whole point is this. When the government starts penalizing the whole populace because some of the populace has a problem with it, the govt is stomping out liberty. This is exactly the case for drugs. Do a whole lot of people try drugs? Yes. Do all of them become addicted to it? No. Do some? Yes. So we place a penalty on the entire population by making it illegal.

And for fuck's sake, do not become a vapist.

Yes, the culture sucks, but inhaling the ingredients is insane. Cold turkey sucks for about a week and then you're free. No more money. No more stupid refills and clunky machines. No charging. Just your lungs and tastebuds back.

I got hold of some thc oil and now cigarettes and joints feel like some old-fashioned hobby

LMFAO.

Hey Im trying to quit too. Been smoking for 10 years now, started at 17.

I quit after trying and failing for years. The trick that worked for me was realising that I wasn't giving something up, I was gaining something - health, money and a great sense of achievement.

I quit a few years ago and it was the best decision I've ever made. Even after a few months I started feeling better, more alive and less depressed.

I used the patch, which if you use the cheap ones cost less than smoking. A lot of smokers I know try to go cold turkey, but end up failing. I think they want to prove they have the will power. Don't be afraid to hack you body. If I smoked with a patch on Id feel sick so it really builds that negative reinforcement. I had to sleep with it on or I would want one in the morning. The crazy dreams were kinda fun tho.

Best of luck

Good luck dude!

Is it really a conspiracy that cigarettes are not healthy?

It can totally be done!! When I started in Florida they were 1.10 a pack and I SWORE I WOULD NEVER PAY 2.00...When I quit in Rhode Island they were almost 8 buck a pack!!! Never again will I pollute the earth with filters that take HUNDREDS OF YEARS to break down as well as give an evil empire almost 10 bucks a day either. You can do it people you smell so much better your food tastes better...YOU LIVE!!! Peace yall.

there is an INDUSTRY built on taking your money for killing yourself.

Multiple.

I don’t understand cigarettes. There are ways to enjoy smoking, like a cherry pipe. Instead, people smoke those stinky disgusting tasting things.

it gets better after the first 100 cigs

it becomes clear that there is an INDUSTRY built on taking your money for killing yourself.

The animal-agriculture industry puts the cigarette industry to shame in this regard, once you realize that there is absolutely no nutritional requirement to eat any animal products. And indeed, pretty much all the medical science seems to indicate that the less animal products you eat, the healthier you will be. Vegans know this, and it's one of the many reasons we choose to live as vegans. It is an industry of death- it kills you, it kills the animals, and it kills the environment.

Good luck on quitting smoking.

For the first time ever, I have some interest in cutting back. Like, way back. I am allowing myself 5 per day right now (I've had one day with 2 and I also went over one or 2 days).

If I start to think about that "last cigarette ever" I get anxious and it makes me want to smoke, so I'm attacking it with the best defense I got. Procrastination. If I just keep distracting myself, I can go many hours without smoking. For now, I'm using the patch, so I am still getting nicotine, I know that isn't ideal, but it is at least an improvement.

Good luck quitting! Just figure out what motivates you. It took me a long time to do that part.

That’s basically how I quit. There was about 9 months-a year where I would smoke between 1-5 a day but I wouldn’t worry too much that it was talking so long to get down to 0 for the rest of my life because those 1-5/day prevented me from jumping right back into 20/day which I probably would have if I had allowed the anxiety to compound by completely avoiding cigarettes before I was truly ready to do so

Good luck, it look me something like 15 attempts over 5 years to finally quit. It can be hard, some times it will feel impossible, but if you can quit then I guarantee you will feel the relief on your lungs in just a few weeks. Don’t underestimate the task at hand, it will require consistent mental effort to rewrite your brain’s prototypical response of “Damn id love a cigarette right now” but a day will come when your brain says something more like “A cigarette? Fuck no I don’t wanna wheeze and cough my way to an early grave.”

ya but how? 10 hours into quitting I'm in full on panic mode

I quit 146 days ago. Still finding it difficult and have daily urges. But Im sticking to it...

Prayers to OP. I smoked for 15 years, quit 2.5 years ago. This is a very tough habit to break, I tried for years to quit and was finally able to with help from a Dr who prescribed Chantix and Welbutrin and also needed personal resolve and prayers. I was off both these meds after only a few months. Praise God

You can do it. Once you've quit for a while you start to realize how disgusting it is.

Pedofilia in Hollywood. Sexual Abuse in Hollywood. Corruption in the highest places in government. Saudi Arabia purging. North Korea going nuclear. Of all the fucking conspiracy theories, now, now you chose to post about fucking cigs? A fact (not a theory) that they purposly got the public addicted and knew it was harmful?

Dudes wtf is this? Is this Dr. Phil? Cuz I thought this was a conspiracy sub. Jesus Christ. Get your cig talk over to a more main stream sub please.

I thought the Most obvious was: for better health drink more water.

I managed to quit the Smoking and am slowing down on the drinking.

I'll quit smoking the day cigarette packets stop writing threatening messages and gross pictures. Also after every health professional will stop lying that it causes cancer because it fucking doesn't. It increases the chances, which is not a cause

That example is in no way the same. Why are we not paying attention to other factors that cause lung cancer and only address smoking, when the risk only increases by <10%? (http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/editorials/vol-1/e1-4.htm)

I don't promote smoking in any way or form, but believe we should be told the truth and take other causes just as seriously.

It's so hard to quit and I always feel guilty for supporting those companies /sigh

didn’t phillip morris announce they are moving out of smoking products into smokeless vape products.

snuff, dip, chew, and snus are all different things. They're all orally-ingested tobacco, but they're not all the same.

Big Tobacco propaganda

Its when your lungs expand then pop like popcorn kernels