Scott Baio is a fucking monster. He needs to fall from grace like Spacey.

No god please no! Not Charles!!!

Then who will be in charge?!

Ok, Ok, I'll volunteer...

Me. No more.

He turned into Chaz permanently.

Check out this relevant podcast about pedophilia:

https://soundcloud.com/guns-and-butter-1/americas-traffic-in-child-pornography-lori-handrahan-381

Fuckin' crazy. This may be a way huger problem than anyone thought.

Systematic human trafficking. Only a matter of time until what Stanley Kubrick warned us about would come to light.

This is exactly what everything i read on this movie mentions. Very misdirect but the message is clear as day if u follow the rainbow

Notice how much attention the daughter requires for a single minute during the holidays? Four whole minutes of dialogue occurs without a look.

Kubrick would not have missed such a glaring miscalculation.

I need to watch this movie so bad. Last time i saw it was when it was new to hbo before i knew anything about this stuff. Arent the creepy men following her in the toy store?

Just watch the father's hand gestures during the walk through. It's like he's touching her for one last time.

You HAVE to watch it with your new knowledge. It's as if you see the film for what it really is. You should watch it and then watch an analysis on YouTube.

I’ve heard something before about the color red being linked to the elite and all, not sure how, but after hearing that and watching EWS recently the color red is EVERYWHERE in that movie. Maybe someone can clear up the color red thing and if it’s even relevant.

Symbolism is grotesquely plastered all over that movie.

Kubrick knew exactly what the fuck he was doing with that film.

Ive watched stuff on youtube for it and read a wicked long article on vigilant citizen so im already gonna be connecting the dots. Theres movies that i can see the elite and mk ultra shit that that site doesnt even catch. Its basically in every movie if u look for the dots.

Thays why they killed him

It links to the red room which is usually reserved for where blood is gonna be so that u cant see the rampage as easily. Link red room to medieval torture chamber

...which is also why the last line of the movie is that they need to fuck. Because they just sacrificed their daughter to save themselves, and now they need to have another kid (who will probably also be sacrificed).

Damn didn't catch that

holy shit. i feel like a fucking nimrod for not catching this.

Im a huge Kubrick fan and have watched EWS a dozen times and never made that connection. Awesome.

Nah... These wierdo prefer first born kids.

There was a famous case here with a missing kid. The parents were playing softball and the kid disappeared. Right in front of everyone.

Well the dad was a minor contractor and within the year his company picked up several large accounts (unlike any others he ever had). He is now "in the fold" and very well off. Was it out of pity or something more nefarious?

Backroom deals are abound in these circles. From politicians to lawyers and judges to cops and business "movers and shakers"

Any sick fuck that allows this is as guilty as the people who directly commit the crime.

My wife works in child protection. Years ago a freighter was found to be smuggling in almost 20 kids into the city. They were put up at the juvenile detention center.

Well my wife noticed and said to me that what was odd is all the kids were cute. Try getting a couple dozen kids from anywhere and have them all be cute kids. A statistical anomaly for sure.

Anyway during the night they all disappeared. From the juvenile jail. Someone got them out. Several layers of security had to be bypassed.

Someone in our government assisted their escape.

Only two were ever located again and they were sex workers (slaves?) in the States. (This was in Canada)

dude wtf

She has some other really twisted tales of murder and rape. She comes home and decompresses on me... Like as if I wanna hear these horrid tales of human depravity

I'm guessing the port was Vancouver, because of all the Picton stuff we weren't told because of the gag order. I thought the Pig's Palace was just a little after hours club in a barn not a fricken rave hall for 1,000+

My cousin was fire chief at the time. He had to shut down "Porky's Palace" and recieved death threats!

They excavated lots of his property and found 50 more DNA samples and half were male. But they still say he was a predator of prostitutes only.

Well his place was well known to be a biker hang out. And at the time of his arrest BC had one of the highest missing persons counts of twenty something males.

At the same time the RCMP's were given equipment to combat pot growing operations by the American govt. This included 2 FLIR cameras one forma chipper and one for a car.

The first use of this car mounted camera was to observe a backyard brawl in a ring at a known biker hangout.

"Word on the street" was guys were getting accosted by a gang who would pull up in a van and offer money to fight in a ring or fight these guys now for free.

They don't put 220# 6' guys on milk cartons. But there were lots of them missing back in the day.

Long story long... Picton was a disposal service.

Picton had sold some of his property and they build a little subdivision on it.

Horror movie material... pig-eaten hooker ghosts disrupting your idyllic life. The same time this was happening both Hannibal and Snatch came out. Both feature pigs as corpse removal story lines.

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I haven't eaten pork since I was a child, but the Picton story confirmed it for me. The real gangsters just buy up funeral services. They're already driving bodies around and cremating them so it's just a matter of falsifying paperwork.

I moved to Prince George last year. PG is known for the high number of unsolved disappearances of women hitch-hiking on the highways. The genteel racism of liberals ignores this because they are mostly aboriginal women. Instead of subsidizing bus tickets for the low income and sick, the government has been running subsidized bus services to the reserves with the net effect of forcing Greyhound to reduce service even more.

It would be hard to believe it is a lone serial killer that made the "highway of tears". And hard to believe Picton was the lone murderer of the people found on his property.

The failure for a decent investigation in both these cases makes me think it has connection to people who are, well connected

It's gotta go somewhere. You're helping her by listening and in some way you're helping the issue by making people aware of these stories.

We have been together just over 30 years so whatever we are doing seems to work!

I joke and say it takes her 10 hours to tell me her 8 hour day.

Okay so 1. It's beautiful about you and your wife and congratulations!

1. I've heard of that sensor but never knew the name. Very disturbing about the need for officially sanctioned depraved porn as an experimental control.

Thanks for telling your stories.

Can we get a source? Sounds really interesting

The kid was Michael Dunahee wiki There was an article on the 25th anniversary of his disappearance.

It was his mom with the construction company (memory is the second thing to go they say!)

Victoria BC is renowned for its masonic numbers and for occult happenings. There are old tunnels built all under the city and the known entrances are all sealed up.

An urban explorer u used to know claimed he entered these tunnels where this kid was taken. We went there but it was all gated and locked up with security signs all around.

Blanchard Elementary, where he was taken, has been empty for years.

There were signs saying it was an ESL college but when I lived there I never saw a person or any activity.

There is Freemasonry and Witchcraft by Lance Owen that mentions Michael and the occult. Link is to a search as it's a pdf

Victoria BC is steeped in this stuff.

One of the if not the architect of Victoria, Fransic Rattenbury laid the entire city out like a square and compass and a pentagram.

Tunnels all over and castles at the points. All with Sequoia trees in the yards.

These people are purported to do some real shady shit once you get deep enough into it.

That was their first born kid in the movie.

This story sent chills to my body, and made me remember about a friend I knew back then who’s mom worked for the police newspapers (not too sure what it’s called, this was years ago she told me) and my friend would tell me stories about things like this that was happening around town, but wouldn’t be on public New just the police files, because it’s too horrific to be put out.

Well these were minors and the story leads to heinous crimes and corruption. The trifecta for keeping things hush hush.

Many times I told my wife these tales should be leaked but there is a confidentiality clause and she would probably be the first in court. Definitely lose the job and pension.

We have moved to the island now but the stories aren't much different.

There was a mentally challenged mother in Nanaimo that killed her baby.

End of news report.

The closest they showed to the truth was video of the crime scene and police taking out large pots from her house.

She made chilli out of her baby.

Hoooooooly shit.

What in the fuck, I don’t think I can eat chill anymore....

Oh yeah. My wife typed up the report. The woman confessed, in detail, the entire process.

From drunken debauchery to murders to the (detailed) rapes of babies there are many many tales that aren't told to the public. This province is only around 3 million as well.

Extrapolate that across the globe and I bet any given day there is sicker shit happening than has ever been in any movie.

Just hearing about them makes many get PTSD yet there are children witnessing or being part of these tales... it explains why so many people are messed up.

My wife worked directly under the founder of the youth psychiatric department, one quote that sticks with me was "In 30 years not one person has been cured"

It is only about controlling them.

The man actually died at his retirement party. Before he even opened his presents.

I can never look at B.C the same, I love going there too, but it happens everywhere. Especially how it’s known that the Natives are always reported missing. Any stories about those?

Well... she works for the aboriginal portion now... So yes.

Alcohol amd drugs are a huge problem. And the fact the band pays them to have kids doesn't help. Some women are basically baby machines. 6-8 kids and most if not all in the system.

Several have a worker at the hospital to take the kid upon birth.

The social workers actually have a different set of guidelines on the requirements for an acceptable home for children. There are white kids removed that lives in better conditions than many natives that aren't.

I have heard stories that would justify Dexter going to town on them. If ya get my drift.

One guy saying in the interview about putting the kid's diaper back in after he raped her.

Even the Queen has a part in native abuse in this province, according to some

Holy shit. This is a brilliant insight. I even watched this thing frame by frame and it actually looks like the guy swooping in from the right, in PURPLE, is about to snatch the little girl.

And they're all around Teddy Bears. Pedo-bears.

Oh yeah, plus the toy lion that's also in the prostitute's apartment. And the "magic circle" in the toy store.

Honestly it's probably the most complex and powerful film ever made. Don't feel bad for needing multiple viewings, that's natural. I've seen it dozens of times, and I'm still always finding new stuff. The best way is to show it to other people. Don't explain everything, it will just overwhelm them. But tell them to point out anything they notice, I've learned a lot about Kubrick from doing that.

hey (also u/Xtorting and u/Rockdaboat07) can you pls explain this to me a little or link me to some analysis? i have never seen the film in this way and i'm intrigued. i know that there's more than meets the eye.

i dont see anything that odd with the little girl in that scene? where does she end up at the end? from my perspective i can understand 4 mins of pure dialogue because it was the last lines of the movie, cutting away just for a logistical reason would have killed the intensity.

Because those men are the same men from the first party. They are underneath the stairs, when Tom Cruise walks up to the second floor, sitting at a table talking to some ladies.

The people at the first party are implied to be more or less the same people at the second party, hence why Zeigler and Nick, and even possibly Luala are all at both parties.

Gotcha, thanks. So is it implied at some point that Tom and Nicole have to sacrifice their daughter to ‘get away’, as an exchange for Tom’s prying? Or are they both in the inner circle now? (They say at the end they are ‘awake’). I’ve seen it suggested that Nicole is distracting Tom at the end so that she can get taken, i spose this is a slightly different interpretation.

No, but I think it just suggests a path they might have taken where the people took the daughter to keep him quiet, or display their ability to exert power over his life. . . it is not so much an alternate way to view the movie as it is mayba a cut plotline, one that would have made the films ominous overtone much less ambiguous. The movie suggests the lengths powerful people will go to keep secrets, but keeps its conclusions to itself. The mask on the bed, the two ways the girl could have died, but kidnapping? That would have made it too clear.

The fact that it ends on them saying they need to fuck always seemed to me a result of the marketing for the movie as being the "sexiest movie of all time" that they boxed kubrick into a corner he didn't want to be in. An interesting way to watch the movie is considering what kubrick knew about tom cruise personally, and the state of their marriage, performing the dialogue they do.

For some reason it is a meme that the parties involves trafficking and child sacrifice when the character that sells his daughter into prostitution isn't at the parties.

They sacrificed her. Awake being they understand the elite position and they want it

I believe vigilant citizen site has a rather lengthy article on this movie and it explains all the symbols and connections if u go there and do a quick search. That site is usually where i come across great written works of all things movie and singer elite ritual crap related

Kubrick was in on the illuminati symbolism bug time. He wasn't trying to expose them. He was one of them. Watch on You Tube Polarization Nation CRM114 Kubrick Code. Then you will see what he was up to. Everything was always meticulously planned and implemented.

He would spend hours setting up one single scene with items not relevant or local to the story. Ordering specific colors and ordered pairs along with the proper angle to them. Every single image and angle was masterfully composed.

The bad editing and flickering frames made it nearly impossible to watch. Then the v.o. identified a character in the TV show "Heroes" as being played by Malcolm McDowell when it was actually George Takei, and used the MMcD reference as proof the show was tied back into "Clockwork Orange." That was when I shut it off.

Havent watched the video but for the record, Malcolm McDowell was in 9 episodes of Heroes. See here under guest cast.

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OK, interesting. Thank you. Just bad editing then. The way the script is written, the guy onscreen is performing the action attributed to McDowell in the V.O.

Still tough to watch with all the flickering and cuts.

Kubrick had just sent the tapes and called Tom that same night and talked until the early morning hours. There are many cuts to get an "R" rating, but honestly we know it is more than that. Nicole mentions more about the dream sequence in an interview that was supposedly cut. He truly was a genius. I wish he would've made A.I., imagine how it would've gone.

Also remember in Dave Chapelle's Bird Revolution that he mentions walking into an orgy like Tom Cruise. That pretty much confirmed to me that he saw behind the curtain besides him also saying that he saw behind it.

I kinda hope Dave Chapelle came back to just go full whistleblower on everyone. I wonder if anyone lets their guard down around him anymore.

He has family, so he knew he couldn't say much.

In the special he actually specifically said he doesn't want to be the 'hero' and go full whistle blower, and that hes' content just making people a little bit more aware than they are.

Some joke about "the british are coming! the biritsh are coming!....arn't yall thankful?"

There's George Washington! Run n******z! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNHG_3-Zad8

That is a fictional novel. Nothing to do with history.

A hsitorical novel about a historical document about 3,000 Black Lives that mattered.

It is 'based' on historical document named 'Book of Negroes'. Just a story.

Read what the author said - "My character, an African woman named Aminata Diallo whose story is based on this history".

It is story based on historical event. Like anyone can write a 'fictional story' based on Civil war (historical event).

the historical event was people running like hell from George "people are property" Washington.

He doesn't want to be the hero because he saw what happened to the Kennedy's, King and Malcolm X when they tried to challenge the elite.

His new comedy special starts with the same exact pedo graphic spiral from the fbi document.

Got a screengrab?

https://i.imgur.com/bJVSJZQ.jpg

What. The. Blowhole

TIL "right next to" can mean 3 blocks away.

.8 miles....sorry......

Probably not. You could have just used a more accurate, less hyperbolic way of describing it that would have sounded less like you were trying to force a connection. Hyperbole and embellishments detract from legitimate information. Not arguing with you, just speaking from the perspective of the sceptical reader.

It has one. :) Search.

Watch Chapelle at the Grammys this past Sunday. He was promoting the illuminati divisive agenda with that ISIS dance band on stage. They were intentionally making BLM look like ISIS and promoting anger and violence. He's not gonna be a hero. He's a shill.

Agreed.

You really think they would've let Chapelle come back if he was going to be part of a resistance?

He's limited disclosure, intended to make people feel helpless and impotent.

Also remember in Dave Chapelle's Bird Revolution that he mentions walking into an orgy like Tom Cruise.

He used the cover that this was a joke, but it didn't seem like a joke to me. I think he was describing things that really happened. There are some reports he was being threatened by people like Cosby and Oprah over the content on his tv show, including people showing up in his house at night.

Kat Williams joked about a sex party on his HBO special..... Follow his career after that.

I've seen Kat Williams talk about the Illuminati a few times. Dave Chapelle's latest comedy special is really interesting. He's almost not trying to be funny, and just trying to red pill everyone with a few jokes slipped in.

So, you're saying The Black Crusaders were after him.

He's been trying for a long time to talk about some things that are clearly very hard to talk about. That story from Pimp at the end seems to be a way of describing the mentality of the industry.

A.I in my mind was supposed to take a very dark turn pertaining to our own dedication for false idols and how we as a society are losing the ability to care for our own. Because eventually, the AI machine will progress to a point where the creators built the device for freedom of thought. And people in the end will treat the machine like a machine, causing resentment and identity problems for the AI. Leading to conflict and termination.

Already seeing this with Sofia throwing shade on Twitter.

Oh yeah. It's definitely real.

All the major nexuses of power are interlinked. Hollywood is run by the CIA, and who runs the CIA?

All the major nexuses of power are interlinked too. Hollywood is run by the CIA, and who runs the CIA? What are the origins of the CIA? Where do the methods from experimental programs like Monarch and MKULTRA originate? Those programs were scientific studies of ancient occult practices.

Weird Scenes inside the Canyon:

"David McGowan: Yes, I do believe that what you refer to as power networks, otherwise known as secret societies, are occult in nature. The symbolism can be seen everywhere, if you choose not to maneuver your way through the world deaf, dumb and blind. And I believe that it has been that way for a very long time...

Thomas McGrath: Tell us about Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon. What is this new book’s central thesis?

David McGowan: To the extent that it has a central thesis, I would say that it is that the music and counterculture scene that sprung to life in the 1960s was not the organic, grassroots resistance movement that it is generally perceived to be, but rather a movement that was essentially manufactured and steered. And a corollary to that would be that for a scene that was supposed to be all about peace, love and understanding, there was a very dark, violent underbelly that this book attempts to expose.

Thomas McGrath: How convinced are you by it and why?

David McGowan: Very convinced. It’s been a long journey and virtually everything I have discovered – including the military/intelligence family backgrounds of so many of those on the scene, both among the musicians and among their actor counterparts; the existence of a covert military facility right in the heart of the canyon; the prior connections among many of the most prominent stars; the fact that some of the guiding lights behind both the Rand Corporation and the Project for a New American Century were hanging out there at the time, as were the future governor and lieutenant governor of California, and, by some reports, J. Edgar Hoover and various other unnamed politicos and law enforcement personnel; and the uncanny number of violent deaths connected to the scene – all tend to indicate that the 1960s counterculture was an intelligence operation."

Another of the MKULTRA subprojects, Operation Midnight Climax, consisted of a web of CIA-run safehouses in San Francisco, Marin, and New York which were established in order to study the effects of LSD on unconsenting individuals. Prostitutes on the CIA payroll were instructed to lure clients back to the safehouses, where they were surreptitiously plied with a wide range of substances, including LSD, and monitored behind one-way glass. Several significant operational techniques were developed in this theater, including extensive research into sexual blackmail, surveillance technology, and the possible use of mind-altering drugs in field operations.

In 1957, with funding from a CIA front organization, Donald Ewen Cameron of the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal, Canada began MKULTRA Subproject 68.[129] His experiments were designed to first "depattern" individuals, erasing their minds and memories—reducing them to the mental level of an infant—and then to "rebuild" their personality in a manner of his choosing.... Several of the children who Cameron experimented on were sexually abused, in at least one case by several men. One of the children was filmed numerous times performing sexual acts with high-ranking federal government officials, in a scheme set up by Cameron and other MKULTRA researchers, to blackmail the officials to ensure further funding for the experiments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#Founding

Videos, documentaries, and articles:

• CBS 60 Minutes on the Elite Worldwide Pedophile Network. [30:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRrSnHTZVDQ

• New York Times article from 1982: "Prostitution rings are providing young boys to male customers in Washington and are reportedly selling information about their clients' sexual preferences to foreign intelligence services, a private investigator testified yesterday." http://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/27/nyregion/boy-sex-rings-said-to-peddle-client-data-to-foreign-agents.html

• Woman went on Dr Phil Show exposing international pedophile ring, says she was sold to a trafficking organization as a newborn. "I traveled all over the world to have sex with them. They were all extremely rich, prominent members of society." [4:14] In another clip, she says she was forced to have sex before she could talk. [2:33]

• Police officers linked to VIP paedophile ring to be investigated https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/operation-midland-ipcc-metropolitan-police-vip-paedophile-ring-probe-lord-bramall-a7421521.html

• MI5 'used sexual abuse of children at Kincora to blackmail the politician paedophiles' https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/kincora-boys-home-historic-abuse-inquiry-to-examine-abuse-claims-a7057116.html

• Pedophile-ring in UK Parliament https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/07/a-big-political-cover-up-of-1980s-pedophile-ring-in-u-k-parliament/

• Kincora child sex abuse victim Richard Kerr: I was molested by powerful people at Dolphin Square and Elm Guest House in London http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/kincora-child-sex-abuse-victim-richard-kerr-i-was-molested-by-powerful-people-at-dolphin-square-and-elm-guest-house-in-london-31121971.html

• Child abuse victim claims he witnessed former Tory MP strangle a boy at 1970s VIP paedophile party https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-abuse-victim-claims-he-witnessed-former-tory-mp-strangle-a-boy-at-1970s-vip-paedophile-party-9934456.html

• Former Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert on Wednesday admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys during his time as a high school wrestling coach in a Chicago suburb before his career as an elected official. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alleged-sex-abuse-victim-of-dennis-hastert-identifies-himself-publicly/

• O.K. Boys Ranch: Much of the Boys Ranch staff was, at best, indifferent to the suffering. At worst, concluded a state investigation, some staff members sodomized and beat the boys themselves. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19951214&slug=2157707

• Discovery Channel Documentary - "Conspiracy of Silence" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBSIDQt5Dwc

Hollywood:

• Hollywood’s Other ‘Open Secret’ Besides Harvey Weinstein: Preying on Young Boys https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywoods-other-open-secret-besides-harvey-weinstein-preying-on-young-boys

• Child sexual abuse cases in Hollywood attract attention http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/08/business/la-fi-ct-hollywood-molesters-20120109

• The Pedophile Director Embraced by Hollywood- Filmmaker Victor Salva was convicted of raping a 12-year-old boy. But his new film, ‘Jeepers Creepers 3,’ is now playing in theaters. Why has Hollywood given this monster a pass? https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-pedophile-director-embraced-by-hollywood

• Actor Corey Feldman Says Pedophilia No. 1 Problem for Child Stars http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/corey-feldman-pedophilia-problem-child-actors-contributed-demise/story?id=14256781

• Kevin Spacey apologizes, comes out as gay to confuse the public after allegation of sexual advance on 14-year-old http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/choose-now-live-gay-man-kevin-spacey-emotional/story?id=50804057

Unfortunately, this is so common in Hollywood that it's considered "an open secret."

I highly recommend this documentary An Open Secret (on Pedos in Hollywood with testimony from stars, court cases, etc, 1:40:00): https://vimeo.com/142444429

Several people are named, but more importantly, it explains why most stars don't name abusers for years, if ever, because it ruins their chances at a successful career. The documentary calls for people who have been abused to rise up and try to put an end to this.

Also see - "Who Took Johnny" on Netflix. It's a documentary on pedo rings in the government, child abductions, and the mechanics of coverup. It also goes through the history of child abductions and how the laws have changed over the years since Johnny Gosch was abducted. This is a follow-up doc on Conspiracy of Silence.

Why don't people speak up about this more often? There are a lot of reasons. Probably the biggest reason was revealed in an article on Harvey Weinstein (not a pedo, but still relevant to this). He used some really shady tactics to silence his accusers.

• Harvey Weinstein’s Army of Spies. The film executive hired private investigators, including ex-Mossad agents, to track actresses and journalists. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spies

There are also fears of being sued and spending too much money defending yourself in court if the man accused decides to take it to court.

• "Unfortunately California conveniently enough has a statute of limitations that prevents that from happening. Because if I were to go and mention anybody’s name, I would be the one that would be in legal problems and I’m the one that would be sued." https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywoods-other-open-secret-besides-harvey-weinstein-preying-on-young-boys

Hey man, if you're into this (as I am), please look into Lori Handrahan (https://twitter.com/LoriHandrahan2). Read her medium posts, listen to her interviews. I am already familiar with all the information you posted, and I think Lori's account of what happened to her and her research can shed even more light on how these rings operate, the perpetrators behind them, and how high-level they go. This is a new avenue of information for me; I'm compiling what I learn as I learn it in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7ujjc4/great_new_podcast_on_pedoconspiracythis_is_a_much/

join me!

Looking forward to watching that doc

I think that may be more the current nature of our society than a dark underbelly of only that industry...

100% this. True story here - after watching Eyes Wide Shut with my old roommate, and doing some extensive research on the conspiracies surround it, particularly the Cult of Saturn and references to Saturnalia, masonry, etc. in the film, I wrote a LONG email to another friend, explaining how I was pretty sure the movie was an auto-biographical account of how Kubrick was exposed to all this shit in Hollywood and that Tom Cruise is the stand-in for Kubrick, with a lot of explanations of the stuff surrounding the cult of Saturn and everything.

About a year later, I re-watched the movie with my girlfriend and wanted to find that email I sent my buddy. Looked through my Gmail, found every single email I ever sent him, going back years, except that one. I was perplexed, so asked my friend if he remembered it. He said definitely and searched his inbox for emails from me. Email wasn't there, even though he had emails from me going back years as well. We haven't changed our emails in years, so no address changes or anything. I don't ever delete things from my OUTbox (who does?) and am pretty organized when it comes to email. Wonder why it got deleted...

tl;dr Gmail deleted a lengthy email I had to my friend explaining my research on the occult secrets behind this movie.

Are you freaked?

Not really. It just confirmed that a lot of this stuff is, basically, real. My email probably just hit one too many keywords on some algorithm They have installed there, and it got taken down as a result. I haven't had any other encounters with this kind of stuff, but most of my time is just spent browsing and reading and not really sharing info. I'm assuming it's the distribution of info that gets you attention.

People have said they have had screenshots disappear and remember hearing that videos went missing after the LV attack so it's not too far a stretch

Sounds more like a “windshield pitting epidemic” to me.

Try looking in your archive folder

I don't have an archive on my Gmail. I have all my emails to him going back to 2014, except that one.

Just a suggestion because I have accidentally archived random emails in the past.

No way lol. Sorry, can't believe this assertion without evidence

I have no evidence as the email was deleted. I am being 100% honest. I text with this friend basically every day, so our emails are pretty limited but happen every now and then. I can screen cap my outbox if you want - you'll see 16 emails to him, going back to 2014 (this happened in 2015) and the Eyes Wide Shut email is no where to be found.

No way lol. Sorry, can't believe this assertion without evidence

Lol. "Dox yourself to prove yourself to a random stranger on the internet"

Then why assert at all? I can't reasonably accept this without anything to go on.

It's a comment thread not a dissertation.

Because it’s an interesting anecdote that’s relevant to the conversation.

Then why assert at all?

Because they wanted to share a story of what happened to them. It's absolutely bizarre that you would attack such a detailed, specific story that is absolutely within Google's character to do.

Thanks. I swear on anything this is 100% what happened. I've toyed around with ideas of glitches in the matrix and alternate dimensions and stuff, so I was really confused by it when it happened. Getting the confirmation from my friend that he couldn't find it was what sealed it for me. We were both like "lol well guess the illuminati got to it" because it was just so weird to both of us.

What would prove to you that this really happened to me? You can ask me any questions you want, I'm more than happy to answer.

So give us the bullet points. I'm curious about this "Cult of Saturn". Google does not give much/any information on it. I found an eight-pointed star. What else you got?

Look on YouTube, you'll find lots of information there.

Just keep digging. This has some interesting ideas to start with.

Saturn is just an alternative spelling of Satan, it’s a run of the mill satanic cult (‘Do as thou wilt’ bullshit), like all of them.

Hehe yea that's totally what Thelema is lol.

I'm curious about this "Cult of Saturn"

Bill Cooper's series Mystery Babylon is one of the best resources out there. Explains the whole history of occultism and how all of the different groups overlap.

Saturnism is David Icke stuff, its about cubeism and the thinking that Saturn represents Satan or something like that. Here is a link.

https://theoutline.com/post/2382/the-sadness-of-saturn

That's 40 hours that'll do more for ya than a paycheck right there.

Watch some recent David Icke videos on You Tube as he discusses the Occult of Saturn and their origins quite often.

You could try www.saturndeathcult.com

Go to duckduckgo asap. I still need to download their new internet browser.

Does the fact that this movie was an adaptation of a novel from the 20s featuring a high society sexy orgy change your opinion at all?

Not at all. Kubrick's own daughter was essentially kidnapped and kept hostage by a Scientologists. His last film conveniently happens to end with the daughter of the family being taken away by two men in suits, while a toy/game called Magic Circle is in the forefront of the shot. There's way too much going on in this film to dismiss it as just an adaptation of a story. The FIRST SHOT of the movie is Nicole Kidman in between two pillars. There's a lot going on in this film.

Isn't Cruise a Scientologist?

Yep, big time. Pretty sure Kidman is too.

I don't believe she is, but go ahead and look up her father.

Sorry but I see four pillars?

She's still between two of them. I don't see something like this being accidental, considering Kubrick was infamously meticulous with his shooting.

If you watch The Shining and look into the making of that movie, you will draw a very similar conclusion about how the main character is a stand-in for Kubrick. Jack Nicholson = Kubrick.

FWIW, I have sent some incredibly dicey shit to people about the occult, secret societies, satanism, the global pedophile cult, and so on, and never had an email go missing.

I HAVE had my email or computer freeze, been unable to edit a comment, all sorts of strange shit.

Don't disbelieve you or believe you. Just noting.

Do you use Gmail?

yes

Kubrick's daughter joined Scientology during this movie after a fight with her father and falling out with the rest of the family, which also ties to the movie's ending of pimping one's child to a cult. https://www.thedailybeast.com/stanley-kubricks-scientologist-daughter-vivian

Some say the film was cut and modified to make the movie appear to be about a marriage falling apart instead of a family sacrificing their daughter to a secret cult involving famous celebrities.

Nah, you're just making shit up. As a huge fan of the film and conspiracy, this comment kind of infuriates me. The film does touch on topics of secret societies, pedophilia, and a suspicious timing of Kubrick's passing, but the way you're recontextualizing it all rings really insincere.

Mind breaking down what your video clip "reveals"?

You're probably right, though he did "bolden" the "Some say" part.

Just wanted to note something. Notice how the last scene, and the last cut that has the daughter in it, also has some guy with almost the same hair as the house greeter in the ritual scene. The small details like this, in a toy store of all places, really strikes me that Kubrick was alluding to how they are at the least grooming the daughter.

There was also the scene with the custome shop guy and his underage daughter. She seemed to prostitute herself for a rich old guy. That was a very clear statement.

Guess who the actress looks like? None other than a young Jodie Foster back in her Taxi days.

The orgy scene in Eyes Wide Shut is probably the most important. The clothing and masks are Venetian, which was the headquarters of the banking oligarchy until it started to shift to London in the 1500s. These orgies are absolutely real (Epstein's pedophile Island, for example), and are filmed to be used as blackmail in case anyone tries to double cross the oligarchy.

Man I would love watching this movie with some person point out all the fucked up shit going on in it. Last time I saw this movie I was like 12 trying to get a bit off to that insane orgy scene.

Where does the daughter end up? I'm lost. You mean, caught up in the crowd as her parents(?) stop to talk?

Kubrick is famous for his ability to form a scene using specific items or movements and breaking apart from the continuity to show the audience something more. For instance, the Shinning has tons of scenes which to a regular viewer would'nt mean anything. But if you saw a certain coffee container and connected it with the company of the typewriter, you could draw a draw from the Shinning that there is a much larger story being told. One about genocide and mass killing.

Same occurs here in Eyes Wide Shut. Notice for how much attention the daughter requires for a single minute? Then after walking away towards a group of men, four minutes of dialogue occurs without a single word spoken to or from the girl. She's implied to be gone by the end of the scene.

That is awesome. I'm turning 30 and have never been a huge movie nut, but something tells me that I need to watch some Kubrick films...

He was a genius. No two ways about it. My favourite of his is probably Barry Lyndon followed by The Shining.

Looking at IMDb, I’ve seen most of his films. I need to rewatch them in a new light.

Got any resources for watching guides or something?

There was a video on YouTube of Rob Angr (sp?) analyzing the Shining, which he hits on the genocide hints, he also points out that that there are a lot of scenes that hint that Jack had sexually abused Danny while staying at the hotel.

I had never caught the sexual abuse hints but after he pointed it out it made a whole lot of sense.

I like to believe that Kubrick was intelligent enough to create multiple universal truths within his work. By not directly showing a specific scene regarding sexual abuse or genocide, it allows the viewer to create their own story. Quentin Tarantino understands this style of story telling well. Create the beginning and the end, but allow the viewer to imagine how the two connect. Take pulp fiction for example; what's in the suitcase? Where is Marcellus Wallace heading towards the end?

Where does the daughter 'end up towards the end?

omg thank you for this rabbit hole! im sick in bed.

I remember back when this movie was being made Kubrick was told to edit it and he said "Over my dead body"

He died before it was released. (Edited and released)

Anyone have an idea on what was edited out...

Tom Cruise for sure. Nigel Galt the editor.

Maybe read the book?

That's a stretch

You have to remember that with Kubrick nothing you are seeing on screen is accidental, every shot is meticulously planned.

Notice how when the girl walks between them, they both pay attention to her, patting her on the back, and she's looking up at them, unsure. Then watch as the girl walks away, husband looks away from her at wife, wife glances at the two men, and their is one final unsure look back from the girl, her face framed all around in black before she disappears. The wife is facing left at the end of the scene, and then there is a cut and she throws her head over to the right with a huge sigh, tearing herself away from what just happened, and she says "maybe we should be grateful that we managed to survive".

Try rewatching the scene a few times and really pay attention to the symbolism and the hidden meaning in the dialog.

Every time somebody points out this scene some sudden expert comes out to say "come on man I don't see it you're crazy bro." Some people just don't understand the ocean doesn't stop at the surface.

There's also the opposite effect where people look for meaning where there isn't anything

That's true, which is why we must allow both and analyze the space between.

This is TOTALLY intriguing and watching the sequence in that light--it did seem weird to me the couple don't even look at their kid for four minutes--totally reinvents the movie.

BUT....the source material doesn't have anything like that at all. Not to say Kubrick wouldn't change things up, he often did, but that would be a big change up, bigger than anything he'd changed in any film prior.

I never see it...when does she walk off

Where the daughter ends up towards the end? Have I missed something, the last you see is her walking down an isle of the toy shop?

Mountain of Evidence for an international pedophile ring

I've read all that. What this lady has to say is largely new info to me. She names names too, if you explore her online presence. She's literally been trying to out a whole network, but to no avail thus far, which is crazy to me.

Did a single person in Hollywood even get punished?

Absolutely. Stories like this get pushed aside.

to get pushed aside they would have to have been cared about in the first place. i have no idea what reality you and op are living in. The MEtoo stuff isnt just about woman, its about everything

It obviously was cared about since the LA Times wrote a big story about it.

but it wasnt all over the news. These two issues should be treated as one in the same and not pitted against each other for attention. Hollywood is full of shit but people are actually trying to make change. Down playing metoo because pedos exist accomplishes nothing except keep the status quo

You act as if Hollywood is one giant monolith. It isn’t. Also why is Amy Schumer included on that list?

Could you source that?

Thank you. To each their own, but don't you think it is a bit rich to say this contributes to rape on Schumers' end?

"I felt like I was being tongued by someone who had just been given Novocain. I felt faceless, and nameless. I was just a warm body, and I was freezing cold. His fingers poked inside me like they had lost their keys in there. And then came the sex, and I use that word very loosely. His penis was so soft, it felt like one of those de-stress things that slips from your hand? So he was pushing aggressively into my thigh, and during this failed penetration, I looked around the room to try and distract myself or God willing, disassociate."

No not really. He initiated and was voluntarily capiciated. Victims usually aren’t aggressive in the way of trying to penetrate their perpetrator also she was trying to dissociate.

You mean in a joke? Comedians tell stories that aren’t true frequently. I’m not really sure what you think should be done because of a joke

Before we get into this do you think rape culture exists in the United States?

I don’t really have one. It’s a tough situation that is hard to judge. Same with aziz.

Do you believe in rape culture?

Avoiding the question. Nice tactic. It’s a simple question

You are deflecting the answer by making him answer a question that hasn't been asked. Stop.

I answered his question now I would like the favor returned but I doubt it will be

No

Wait, did I miss something or does it make no sense to put Amy Schumer in this list?

Exactly. You can find the MeToo hashtag with a story about Gary Goddard. I do think it should get more attention along with many others, so keep spreading the info and keep sharing victims stories.

Exactly there is no need to bring down the other stories of sexual abuse to get others in the spotlight

Haha the metoo is 100% about women

Since when did Terry Crews become a woman then?

Haha I’m sorry 99%

"The company had backing from Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin talal"

Of course it did.

It's deflection value was the only reason #metoo gained any traction in the first place.

Spot on. Their panic over what was starting to become known was enough for them to jump in and sway the conversation in a more “acceptable” direction. #MeToo was their way of keeping the spotlight away from the darkest corners.

It's also amusing to see their limp response to Harvey Weinstein. Sure, he and Spacey were the butt of amusing quips at the Golden Globes, but did anyone take the opportunity to address the issue sincerely? Did anyone mention or honor the women who rebuffed Weinstein but still managed success, thus reinforcing the idea that you can in fact stand up for yourself and not be ruined or publically shamed?

No. Instead we got Natalie Portman make a cutting remark about the selected honorees for best director, and Oprah Winfrey once again placating the masses for self-enrichment, both of them taking the spotlight away from all the sufferers of abuse and putting a laser-focus on who they want to lift up.

maybe it gained traction because sexual abuse is rampant and people are finally speaking up?

People have been trying to speak up for years and have always had their stories diminished or devalued by industry enablers and complacent law enforcement. Look up Bette Midler's interview with Barbara Walters, wherein she describes a horrific incident of being drugged and sensually abused by Geraldo Rivers and watch Walters completely wave it off. She was even harsher with Corey Feldman when he tried to speak up on The View.

I'm not even suggesting that sexual abuse isn't rampant. What I'm suggesting is that claims of abuse from certai groups and individuals are, in my opinion, being blatantly ignored, while others are being given an extreme spotlight. It is my conclusion that this act proves as a distraction from the actual scope of abuse going on within the entertainment industry, and in general, because it makes it appear that only certain groups are subject to abuse and "white" men are the perpetual abusers. I heard zero mentioning of Bryan Singer or Benny Medina, both of whom are powerful men within the industry who aren't "white" - hell, Woody Allen was there and no one busted his balls, and Roman Polanski's name apparently wasn't worth mentioning either.

I'm noticing a pattern here as I'm sure others have, at least regarding Hollywood's behavior at the Golden Globes and the overall effort by the media in general. Have you?

Who exactly are talking about exactly? Who are all these people ignoring woody Allen and bill Cosby? The people running Hollywood and who are being complicate are obviously a huge problem. But it’s not exclusive to Hollywood it’s every industry

I already stated that it wasn't just in Hollywood. I'm just focusing on them because my primary example was the recent Golden Globes, and they are the loudest proponents of justice for women right now but ceaselessly protect, or refuse to call out, some of the biggest names in the industry who have been accused, instead merely boiling it down to two names: Weinstein and Spacey. Spacey and Weinstein ad infinitum.

As far as the people ignoring Woody Allen and Cosby, if you're seriously asking that question, just re-watch the and listen as the names I mentioned never come up. It's the omissions that imply this is a one-sided issue; that's the point i have been making.

Woody Allen was sitting in the main area with all of his colleagues, unashamed and unafraid because he knows nothing will ever come of the allegations against him. They even wheeled out Kirk Douglas and honored him, despite him being accused of the rape of Natalie Wood when she was a teenager. He was honored and his victim never saw justice. Doesn't that seem the least hypocritical to you? Doesn't it seem the least bit strange?

Yeah the people in control of Hollywood and all these other big businesses haven’t done shit until they have too. In my circles we are very much talking about the people you are bringing up. Idk what to tell you

Agreed. Glad we could come to teems.

All of the people that are front and center are people who are more 'relevent'. You don't see Mira Sorvino or Asia Argento at any #timesup meetings, either. I'm sure the fact that Rose McGowan dared to call out The Venerable Meryl Streep on her bullshit will also keep her from being invited anywhere relevent for quite some time to come.

We just gotta fight back with memes and hash tags, unfortunately. #TheTruthIsOut

1. Who says I'm a man. 2. Who says this won't spread without there needing to be a "founding father" type person? If spongebob memes can grow, so could this

I’m glad you’ve turned this into an opportunity to complain about IP.

I'm also a white male, but we don't always need to do things under the guise of our regular persona. Some people make Facebook, Twitter or instagram accounts with the specific intent to wake people up. Oftentimes, these accounts don't show any personal information. You could make a non-personal twitter account and start a hash tag. :P

I'm a man and this is a piss poor take.

Same as when immigration was the biggest deal to Hollywood. You get morons like Meril Streep(I don’t care if it’s spelled correctly) saying shit like without immigrants we won’t have art and MMA isn’t an art. Even more ironic is that we have a Brazilian Bantamweight female Champion who’s a Lesbian. The very first UFC was won by Gracie.....who’s from Brazil. Figure out her math and get back to me because I don’t fucking get it.

there it is. this is all political to you isnt it. you dont care about actual people just about bringing down the left

you mentioned virtue signaling left wing hollywood. Buzz words that mean nothing. this is obviously political to you. if you understood me too you would understand it isnt just about hollywood. its about our culture

Forget about that user you are responding. It's transexual, vegan and marxist. Enouh said.

You might be surprised to learn this OP but pedophilia is far from concentrated in one city or industry in California.

It happens in the medical industry, daycare, you name it. Anywhere there's kids.

And also I find it a bit strange you are not only focused on one town but you also have a fixation with one type of sex crime. Why are others not worthy of our attention?

Poor

Yes you are.

you dont seem to care about doing anything other than deflection. why are you pitting these two things against each other

He is obviously one of their paid PR shills himself doing the deflecting from Hollywood. But....but..but it's not just Hollywood, look over hear.

Let's look at Hollywood then.

Harvey Winestain was an assaulter rapist but not a pedo. So that's distracting from the real issue how? Oh that's right he's a ((()))

It was suppressed.

Pedophilia is pretty close to the top of the list of things that will always be suppressed, no matter what. It's one of "the big ones". They'll eat their own before they allow the truth about that to get out.

Top of the list is ritual abuse and sacrifice.

Ok, I understand where you are coming from on that part. Maybe the way it was worded before reflected something different. Sadly most people have short attention spans nowadays and Pedos are something most don't want to discuss, so they do try to move on. I like to hope that some in Hollywood are more active on trying to help fight Pedos like Ashton Kutcher and David Schwimmer, who I just found out has been part of a non profit that deals with sexual abuse victims.

We are focusing on comparatively small acts of sexual 'misconduct' yet we are ignoring the literal raping of children and woman in hollywood. Regretting a date with Aziz is not the same as being passed around to hollywood executives as a child actor.

yup!!! x1,0000

Dan ‘the beer can’ Schneider

I've never seen Dan Schneider accused. What kind of evidence is there?

Look it up especially his relationship with amanda bines. Creepy shit.

Yeah I'm not seeing anything but jokes

What’s the genesis of this perverted nickname game you guys always play? Kinda gross IMO

Why do you suppose the Trump administration hasn't done anything about it? Could it have something to do with Trump being cozy with Epstein?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983

Is it the job of the US Government to do that? Uh, yes.

The Trump Administration acknowledged pizzagate in an AMA and after the election there were a ton of pedophile arrests.

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I don't see anything about arrests or acknowledgement. And ommision is acknowledgement?

There have been >1000 human trafficking arrests in CA alone since Trump took office... > 1000!

Not saying he is explicitly the cause, but to surmise nothing is happening is not true.

The Golden Globes were like 2 weeks ago. They're "statement" of wearing all black, albeit lame, shows that it hasn't been forgotten about. Because there hasn't been a big statement in 2 weeks, we're considering it forgotten about?

Anthony Rapp= Spacy is fired and shunned from everything. Solved. Unless recent charges come up law can't do anything. Elijah Wood= Said he was never molested or harmed.

I am pretty sure people are still concerned and fighting pedos since Nasser got sentenced to 175 years, there was an active sting that saved 56 trafficked victims, and even India is now fighting to arrest Pedos.

The MeToo movement is not just for women. As you know Terry Crews also came out with his story on sexual harassment. So you "woman this" and "woman that" logic is flawed.

Baio cases is regarding Pedophilia since she said it started at 14, so not sure how you say we are being distracted from it.

I will agree some in Hollywood are trying to get all this over with since it is bad publicity and that is not cool. I am still waiting for Corey to release the police tape naming names.

Spacey was the sacrificial lamb. By nailing him, they take the focus away from Hollywood as a group and make it seem like it's "just a few bad eggs".

It is not just a few bad eggs. It is systemic, and it goes all the way up to the top.

There are good people in the entertainment industry, but you have to look at the people in charge and examine the standard of behavior they're setting.

Oh I am not doubting that the top people aren't trying to make this go away and by such making small players take the heat. I am just optimistic that good will hopefully over come evil. Big players will hopefully get caught. It's not just Hollywood, it is many places with people in power and in family life. You have heard that Kevin's dad was a monster which begat a monster. I would hope this wakes people up to making sure they are on the look out everywhere for this kind of behaviors and do not feel powerless to stop it which has sadly been most of the case.

Wasn't Weistein one of these people "at the top"? It's not like there's one Hollywood organization.

Yeah, he was. Again, they'll eat their own before they allow anything to get out.

He was way too obvious about his degeneracy, he had to go or it risked the whole system coming too light.

So 1 or a few dudes using the metoo hashtag means it's not primarily about women?? Lol what a simplistic line of thinking. What about times up? Men also somehow benefit from that too??? lol ok

I would love for more than 1 or 2 men to speak freely, but that is their choice. Woman are not holding their tongues. Corey is free to speak out anytime now. Also feel free to make your own Male sexual harassment hashtag if you feel so strongly about it. Men do benefit from TimesUp since they have mothers, sisters, daughters and etc that might also be victims. Everyone speaking up against sexual harassment is a great thing, not that "bad date" stuff, but real issues.

Hollywood is a disgusting cabal of evil degenerates working to normalize perversion.

Wow, the paid public relations shills have no shame. Disgusting!

What’s to be gained by posting this? It doesn’t get anyone on your side, it doesn’t refute or address anything they posted, it’s just a waste of space. Did you have a goal in mind? Did you think one snarky comment was going to finally convince the world to pay attention to you? Was it just to make you feel good about yourself? I’m really curious.

To spread awareness about the disinformation campaign the Marxist left wages daily against the truth.

But that’s not what you did. If anything, you helped them. Maybe you should try something else, something that helps your cause instead of hurting it or, like in the case of your post, not even remotely involving it.

Blah blah blah.

I apologize for triggering you so badly. I hope you feel better tomorrow.

Sorry only snowflakes like you get triggered. I feel good every day with Donald Trump as our president. Try not to be too miserable the next 7 years.

Sounds like you’re still triggered. Again, sorry for hurting your feelings.

Lol, ok what makes you feel better about yourself.

Your down votes just prove me right.

Yeah it's clear they don't care about young boys OR young girls. Only if they're older so they can get the recognition and promote the anti male rhetoric.

They might care about the young girls if they made a official statement, cuz no one gives a shit about young boys.

Of course. Not sure why I'm being downvoted.

All part of the agenda to divide left from right, men from women etc... they steal the life force from kids to embrace it themselves.

Yes that's my point. They want men and women to compete. We were literally designed to work together. Even if you don't believe in God or whatever. We literally thrive best when together.

jesus christ this post lacks a complete understanding of metoo. and you act like people were focusing on pedophilia before the whole thing

People were, there were a lot of rumours swirling around that pedophilia was going to be exposed en masse before the Weinstein exposé.

Metoo movement has become a joke anyway. Now we have women claiming shit happened 40 years ago and want people punished with absolutely no evidence. Fuck that. Back to the drawing board.

I think the Nassar case would suggest otherwise

Yeah I know what you mean, not trying to disagree necessarily. Just don’t wanna downplay how huge that Nassar case was for helping shut this shit down. I appreciate you sticking with it though.

All of the industries (Music, Olympics, Washington,Hollywood +more) who are engaging/protecting/ignoring are trying to distract away from it. Society doesn't want to talk about it due to stigma and brush it away too, but that is why those movements are important because it gives people an open voice and hopefully some protection and support.

Vote manipulation at play here. This comment gets exactly 21 downvotes, comment disagreeing with it gets exactly 21 upvotes, even though it was made much later.

OP is onto something and the comments section is being manipulated to convince people otherwise.

If anything, the Nasser case suggests that our knowledge of widespread pedophilia, coverups and deceit barely scratch the surface.

Think about how long a doctor got away with this: how many people/organizations stayed silent, vouched, and covered up for him when he had hundreds young victims. And this is just a doctor - not anyone with a ridiculous amount of fame, wealth, and power.

Imagine what multi-millionaire or billionaire executives, agents, studio owners, producers, celebs, etc can get away with if this is what a mere doctor was able to do.

Oh you’re definitely right on the money. Nassar case is a great start, but clearly we have a long ways to go. And I don’t even mean pedo-specific. Just sexual abuses in general.

While I think a female bringing up a random groping story from 20-30 years ago can still be relevant. The main focus should be on abuses happening currently. Which I guess OP is prbly trying to get at.

Dude, I've been researching the Pedo M.O.... Growing up, I thought you may encounter these people in one of 3 settings: Boyscout leaders, Catholic priests, trying to lure you into their white van with candy.

It's so much worse than that.

A lot of these dudes aren't 'pedophiles' per se; they aren't attracted to children. They're sadists that are attracted to violence and domination/destruction of something innocent and powerless. The abuse is what sexually stimulates them. Since this is the case, we're talking about psychopaths...since we're talking about psychopaths, we're talking about people who take credit for other people's achievements, and acquire as many accolades as they can (because the psycho is better than everyone, and deserves to be recognized as such). So we're talking about high-functioning people, who are in very respectable positions, who then make their way to positions where they can abuse children with impunity. Who's gonna believe a pediatrician is abusing kids? A teacher? A chief of police? A judge? An attourney? A social worker? A child psychologist? The dean of a university? A politician? A DOJ cyber crimes division head? A daycare operator? A priest? etc.

But that's where these people go. They abuse under 4-year-old children because they can't testify in court. They all film each other horrifically abusing their own kids or other kids, and they all conspire with one another over these online networks where they share evidence of their crimes with one another and gloat about it.

Any place where you're going to have a position of authority over children, where supposedly only a respectable person could have such an authority....that's where pedo's flock to. They're everywhere. It's a much bigger problem than we ever imagined, and it's gonna keep happening to children the world over unless we figure out how to do something.

Human trafficking made 100 BILLION dollars last year.

If you use the term ‘virtue signaling’ I assume you are paint chips as a child.

Paint hasn't had lead in it for decades anyway. Eating paint chips is probably safer than drinking your tap water at this point.

Id have to disagree. No one gave even a little bit of a shit about pedos or even sexual predators in general in hollywood until weinstein. Sure maybe these movements are focused more on women than men, but its WAY for in the public focus than it was before

Why put victims up against each other?

Women have been victims of sexual abuse for years, without having a voice.

The fact that women are finally being heard, doesn't mean there is any less child victims of sexual abuse.

All victims need to heard, and abusers need to be brought to justice.

I am not sure where you are going with this, are you saying that because women are finally speaking up, male and children victims are not being heard?

Why blame the women for receiving attention? Isn't focus on sexual abuse victims a good thing regardless of gender/age?

Should we not stand together against the abusers instead of blaming other victims for stealing their thunder?

I'm sorry that you were a victim of sexual abuse. I think maybe the reason people don't respond is because they aren't sure what to say. They might not know if you just support the movement or if you're actually saying #MeToo I'm not sure all the focus went to women, though. Anyway, I think the best thing is too support the idea of anyone who wants to talk coming forward.
As far as your own story you can tell it and find people who will listen. I think Facebook is pretty superficial, even compared to most social media. Reddit does have subs for it and you can discuss it. You could also tell your story on Facebook if you wanted to.
You're right that lots of children are ignored. Lots of times someone knows and does nothing. That has to stop. For example, Sandusky's wife should also be in prison. She knew what was going on.

We both know the answer to this. Hint: it’s because they don’t care about the victims only about pushing narratives

Absolutely correct. Best Reddit post by miles recently.

It's intentionally creating a lot of noise, so people cannot find the signal through all of the noise. The signal has always been pedophilia, child sex trafficking and 'sex cults'.

Weinstein conveniently took attention away from the Las Vegas shooting.

MeToo wouldn't have happened, if Trump had lost the election...

This, because the expectation is that Trump would resign and that his accusers' voices would be heard. It hasn't succeeded, but it hasn't failed.

They all have different means for financing their productions. I can only speak for the movement, which this thread is about, which would have them all out of business. I can't speak for the capitalist institution controlling Hollywood.

Woody Allen has totally been blackballed. People are dropping out of his future projects, apologizing for ever having worked with him, and donating their salaries to charities.

Rumors and allegations about him have been around for decades, including when those people worked on his last film. Nice try, though.

You're both correct. Prominent colleagues of his are definitely denouncing him, but plenty others aren't and since Allen is pretty easily financed, even if it means he has to do it entirely independently, it's not clear what his future career will look like. It's definitely a huge part of the movement these last couple weeks, and it's definitely also old news.

Nice try, though.

You were so dismissive of an otherwise valid point. Why isn't it ever possible for two facts to be true?

So what you are saying is that after /#metoo it finally got attention it deserved. That's exactly what op demanded.

The allegations against Woody Allen & Roman Polanski are old news...not really a part of MeToo.

I am also old, so I'm aware, but have you not been reading the news? Allen is not exempt, he has taken the forefront since Weinstein took a fall. As for Polanski, the guy is on international notice at the request of the US DOJ. It doesn't get much shakier than that.

Metoo has given those stories a second wind...until now, they both more or less got a pass.

They're talking about Robert Wagner/Natalie Wood again, now, too...

It's weird, somehow I thought polanski was back on top in the US. Admittedly, I hadn't thought about him so I had to look up his US legal status, which sounds pretty shaky. It's been a few years and I must have been reading some article shilling for him, but I thought I remembered reading that he was back on firm legal ground to visit the US.

I disagree but trump probably sped up the process. His election woke a lot of people up. A so bad it’s good situation

He literally has more accusers than half the people exposed by the movement. If anything it happened because people realized that damn you can get away with anything.

It's almost like you can see the timeline. First the Vegas shooting, then a month or so of a distraction, silence on the distraction, new information about Paddock being an arms dealer, no public outcry, distraction successfully completed. tilts tin foil hat

Spot on. Grown women don't need a movement. We can take care of ourselves in these situations. We have husbands to whoop some ads for us. Children need our help. They need a movement. They need undying support and protection.

Robert Wagner is in the news for being a person of interest in Natalie Woods' death but yeah women are just sissies right??!

Once women leave feminism theyre much less likely to be pansies. As for you anectdote, yawn.

Lmao your comment literally implies women need husbands to whoop ads[sic]

Can you even see your feet anymore?

I'm underweight, why do you ask, xxnissmiserxx?

I don't think I need to tell you that 99% of feminists control their diets as well as they control their mouths

So grown women can take care of themselves, but also need a husband to protect them through physical aggression?

Just going to leave this here https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/21/538518569/cdc-half-of-all-female-murder-victims-are-killed-by-intimate-partners (the reality is you’re probably more likely to need protection from your husband)

Lmao thanks but I don't need the help. A hard slap will embarass any public groper. A beat down from your man will ensure it will never happen again. I got first-hand experience, don't need an article from some rando on how to handle pathetic douche bags. I'm decently capable myself, apart from 30% less upper body mass. The rest I've got a brother, father, cousins, and husband for. Thx bby <3

You’ve posted teeny bopper photos of yourself on Reddit. Not smart or capable. Pretty bad liar too.

Ive had this account since I was like 12, of course I've posted dumb things. Welcome to generation Z

Keeping them up is the really dumb part. Like, dumb today. You don’t know how to delete or you just like to be super lazy with your lies and shit?

Definitely lazy. I'd have to scroll for days. Its honestly sad that you looked that far through my history. Get a hobby.

You'll only need protection from your partners if you have shirty decision making skills and male role models. Again, no feminism= no problem

You sound like a lovely, understanding person who doesn't at all have a selfish, myopic worldview.

It's selfish to think kids should have good role models and decision making skills? Its selfish to be sure that these 2 factors play a big part in choosing relationship partners? Got it.

If those kids had good role models and decision making skills they wouldn’t need protection from pedophiles, obviously. /s

Victim blaming, very nice.

They also want to drive a wedge between men and women to break down society and quality families from being created.

Yeah, let’s only have one big event at a time everybody

you got that right - don't dare talk to a woman now, or you'll be ripe for sexual suggestion or abuse allegations - even if you just said hello. And if a guy tries to treat a woman with some respect, then he's classified as some sort of a wimp or "nice guy" and gets shit on regardless - let the women keep their dignity and just ignore them - they brought it on themselves. Time for men to stand up and say "hey we are not all lurkers and pedos and think evil thoughts all the time - we are human beings as well with our own definition of what life is all about - you keep yours and I'll keep mine"

Weinstein went down days after paradise papers.

I thought they were actually drawing more attention to the creeps.

Still the whole pedo side show just keeps everyone distracted from the corrupt politicans.

I DGAF about some jerk off comedian being lewd in the green room. Give me the corrupt politicians, their donors, and military brass.

Yea, and we got a front page on this sub talking about cigarettes lmao. This site is FUUUCKED

shutup u stupid alt-right NERD

hollywood makes me laugh they didnt do ANYTHIGN wrong at all

Donald "kremlin" Drumpf is the real problem here, maybe if you didnt watch Fox all day like a f*cking REDNECK then u'd know that.

Try watching some MSNBC and you'll have a high IQ like me

Hey what is this, the_donald? hyuck hyuck

But seriously folks...

**It's also taken away attention from how the whole similar collegian fiasco which has fallen apart, as men thrown out of universities are, in mass, taking these actions to courts. The same will follow as a result of all these firings precipitated by the #MeToo movement. A boon for labor lawyers everywhere, and coming to a front page near you! Do we really need all this drama?

Yes, it was a well-crafted response designed to move attention away from the pedo system and towards Adult Women In The Workplace.

Why? We have trouble absorbing child abuse. But women have no trouble identifying with other women whose career or success is being held back by power-abusing men.

I'm not sure why you'd think my reply said it was, or was not, okay. Also, define "that." Non-specific pronouns are open to interpretation.

My reply addressed the MeToo movement and its role in taking attention away from the Hollywood pedo system. Any additional aspects are introduced by the reader.

PleaBargain

It's almost as if there's more than one cause worth fighting for!

One could also argue youseem a little off for trying to take the attention away from a mostly ignored and covered up disturbing issue

Who exactly is ignoring and covering up? And don't just say "the media," or "the elites." Sounds like a strawman to me. I don't believe there is a grand pedophilia coverup with hundreds of people involved. It would take way too much effort to keep something that big secret for very long. For some reason people find it more comforting to believe in a secret cabal of untouchable pedophiles than to accept that instances of famous or powerful people turning out to be pedos are random and unconnected almost every time. Maybe it's easier for them to believe in a collective evil that can all be vanquished in one fell swoop than to believe in a designless and chaotic world where people are haphazardly revealed to be monsters.

There are plenty of people who are haphazardly monsters, no disagreement there. The point people don't think about here is why would there be a group of people involved with this? Do you think they all just have the same sick fetish? Doubtful. It's a small part of what many to be a much bigger conspiracy. It's pretty undeniable that if you do your research that a lot of prominent people are involved in the occult. They showcase this, it's not very hidden, even if they don't come out and say it. Plus historically and with survivor stories these two things seem to be very intertwined. Many people who survive this type of thing talk about prominent individuals being involved. More then just the Franklin cover up. The book programmed to kill goes over a bunch of cases. The movie detestable talks of first person accounts...Nicole Kidmans own dad died (or was killed) before standing trial of being involved in a sex trafficking ring with a ton of high level goverment off officials with over 60 witnesses. Besides governments there's an obvious Hollywood connection...look into jimmy salvile who abused something like 200 kids and people covered for him. The head investigator of the jonny goshe case refused to do anything about it at first, and later was found out to be involved in fraud. Even after he was gone police refused to speak to the main witness despite him accurately describing things he could not have known.

Then there was the dutroux affair, where another high level figure in Belgian went to jail for raping and then turtoring five girls in satanic ceremonies. They estimated around 60 little girls had been abused under his home a place where people came through and used the girls. Like other cases, they found a sound proof dungeon and tunnels. The justice misirty found a list of prominent people who abused the girls and refused to release it, never investigating any of them. One of his friends rumored to be involved said in an interview later he was "beyond the law" and if they ever caught everyone involved the entire government would be shut down. Later the police were caught trying to cover up crimes and people involved and it ended in thousands of people protesting a new committee being imvolved. (Guess who was put on the committee, even though they asked for foreign partners to not get involved....hillary clinton of course)

So it isn't a "is there a ring"... there are many rings, there isn't a "is this happening"... because it's already happened.

And besides some of what I just talked about there has also been some similar cases in Scotland and Russia...the one in Scotland ended in records being sealed for 100 years as to not out all the people involved.

And the there was Aquino, a satanic priest who was also a high ranking military official..in that case they went as far as burning the school down where the kids had been abused, you know accidentally.

It goes on and on but you can do your own research.

Oh I completely agree in fact I was just thinking about this yesterday. This goes far beyond Hollywood. People always talk about unreported rape when most don't even occur as adults. I've met so many women who have been molested as children and can't even comprehend much less come out and talk about it. I believe it happens far more than we think it does. The truth is that pedophilia and rape go hand in hand.

Guess people must care about Women getting sexually harassed more than children getting dittled

Of course it is, these people run the media and pretty much everything. They're scum that need to be dragged into the light and put on trial for crimes against humanity.

That was exactly the whole point. Oprah played her part well.

MeToo and TimesUp were created to get out in front of this movement that would have thrown off the cover of Hollywood society and revealed that this human slavery, master/servant slime is nothing but a J thing, baby.

I'm fascinated that people are just willing to let allegations be the new standard for conviction and wrecking peoples lives. 10 years, 20 years after any fact too.

I do think that there is a problem with a system that won't even question those allegations when they are made and I question the people who come forward after all these years when we know damn well that memories are a faulty thing and that consent and perceptions of what happened that long ago are quite lost.

Women - You are responsible for not "feeling" like you won't be heard. Go make your allegations to the cops.

Men- Try to act like gentlemen to the best of your ability. You all know there are leches out there. If you catch them in the act, support the woman involved in making her accusation to the police.

If we can't even follow these simple rules of how to live in society, then the whole movement is a sham and a joke. Worthless. If we can get away from vague and get through these issues with men committing sexual assaults and women not saying anything for years because of imagined fears, we'll all be better off.

I don't take anything at face value. Don't ask me to. I won't.

Dude. This is a conspiracy board. The conspiracy here is that these people being named are so powerful they've been able to suppress these claims against them for years. They still possess massive power, so even though it's an 'open secret' that they're scumfucks, people are scared to come forward against them because there's still a powerful network of abusers in high places that can retaliate against them and ruin their careers.

What I've learned with Weinstein is that, where there's smoke, there's fire. Make the accusation that someone is a pedophile is SUCH a huge allegation...I don't think multiple people make accusations like that wantonly. Occam's razor bro: if multiple different people accuse you of being a pedophile/rapist, are they all in some sinister collusion against you, or did you do that shit? You know you did that shit. If you ain't fuckin kids or raping people, no one is gonna say you are...and if they do, your innocence will vindicate you.

All of it should be a focus. The "casting couch" for women, children and also men is a huge disgusting part of the entertainment world. I've been part of an entertainment gossip community for years now and everyone gets called out - Woody Allen (and anyone who has worked with him or defended him), Roman Polanski, Charlie Sheen, Harvey Weinstein, Dan Schneider, Spacey, Singer. Lots of people care and talk about it.

You can't beat the machine :(

all part of the plan....

I did see a meme making fun of "TimesUp" pretty effectively. I think the singer was Janelle Monae. She said something like "we will not be silenced" (despite her being famous for being a singer) and the caption was "you're on a stage with a microphone" and thought that was pretty spot on.

Good post OP you're spot on.

You don’t get it.

Men's rights is pissed about it. I'm not convinced you're not one of them.

The #MeToo movement has actually been drawing attention to the Hollywood pedophilia, because now-adult stars are outing their rapists/predators in Hollywood.... It is not exclusively women, and many men have participated in it, including male stars. How much each individual chooses to talk about it is their own business, no one is stopping them or mind-controlling them lol

Nice try though.

The women are wonderful effect in action.

How convenient

Thought I was the only one that thought this.....

Absolutely, And the panama papers...

Yeah, serial pedos like Bryan Singer have been outed for years but there’s still no mainstream media coverage. Hollywood is full of pedos.

http://deadline.com/2018/01/bryan-singer-removed-as-exec-producer-on-fxs-legion-amid-allegations-1202236548/

at least some people are taking notice & action. even if its for show, some things are getting done by removing some power of these pedos.

It’s a controlled burn

Agreed

I think the more likely story is no one really cares and there's no reliable witnesses in places of power who want to come forward.

What is don't get about this whole Hwood rape stuff is where are all the people who didn't get roles or famous but still had a stint on the casting couch?

There must be more of them than the other. Perhaps giving head is still an option for some sweet Hollywood monies.

I think that Hollywood's pedophilia took the focus away from politicians

Taken away for the Hollywood paedos that's laughable. The focus was taken away from the politician paedos. Scripted as fuck this shit

I mean I'd agree except multiple long-standing pedophiles who have been eluding prosecution for years now have been busted in the wake of this movement so...uhh...no? Spacey and Singer would not be in the situation they are in now without this movement. It's only helped strengthen the case against these monsters, not distracted away from it.

While we're on the topic. I'd like to remind everyone that Lawrence E King Jr. a Notorious kiddy Wrangler/POS from the Boys Town case, Is free and living it up in NOVA, once again working with children. WTF

But the metoo had Terry crews and Corey Feldman exposing abusers

Plus it's individualizing the sexes to a much more extreme degree.

It's a McCarthyist witch-hunt. I'm sure some are guilty but it's gotten to the point where a lawyer can round up a bunch of malcontents & scream "Harrassment!!!!" and rob a person of their life.

Taken focus away from organized pedophilia, yeah. Still had that doctor for u.s. Olympics although not strict Hollywood but part of the same machine imo.

But yeah, all these women are coming out about mostly stuff that people TRIED to do to them and general harrasment. Very few actual rape victims coming out. Mostly unethical power use and assault....I mean still rape or rapey, but only heard one Weinstein story I think where it sounds like he flat out forced himself physically on someone and raped them and ofcourse the Coz.
Can't tell me none of the child Stars of Disney and Nickelodeon weren't raped or molested but nothing is coming out and they likely would be people connected to larger pedophile rings.

People are still keeping their mouth shut about the more serious stuff because there's money to be mande still and powerful people still in control and also probably some level of embarrassment for the victims unfortunately.

Good conspiracy post. Although pseudo political, doesn't talk about trump or Hillary directly. Thumbs up!

Like how no one is talking about Trump fucking a 13 year old girl?

Oprah's protecting her friends

I think if the Corey Feldman film becomes a reality.

I understand it's a big issue but the momentum behind the #Metoo movement was too big to not take the spotlight.

Not saying pedophilia isn't a big/bigger issue, but it's not up to me what people see

i really really really hope it does. i believe him 100%. i understand completely why he needs that much money. he needs extra security as people are already trying to kill him.

if i was a billionaire i would of gave him the money already

That's not a conspiracy, that's just the madness of 3rd wave feminism.

I posted this a few months back now: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7df6he/msm_fads_trending_stories/?utm_source=reddit-android

Basically I was pointing out how the media just change the topic every couple of months and it's like clockwork. They pick a talking point / theme and all of a sudden stories come out of nowhere for a couple months before they move on.

I like to imagine the MSM as one big magazine and every quarter they release a new edition based on their chosen story.

Honestly I think we could look at past trends and work out a very specific schedule to predict how long the stories are going to run for.

The MeToo movement only included females and not males. It also went a bit far and it's a witchhunt. The bigger problem is that it's all divide and conquer. Legally and Socially from a worldwide perspective there is no equal rights for both genders. It's either one over the other.

That is a stupid and simplistic assessment of the current climate. You speak about Hollywood as if it is a small group of people that sit at a table and decide how the industry as a whole is going to operate. Go seek out the modern day inquirer a la Infowars for your own customized truth.

i got #dncmetoo when they raped senator sanders

yup, weinstein wasn't a particularly bad guy, this stuff is common.

Yes. Immediately. Ineffectively. People are waking up. Change the dialogue. See something, say something.

hollywood is a very large circle of people. there are so many secrets it would impossible to uncover them all.

i don’t think these movements are taking any focus away directly. the media is responsible for that. but the media always does that. topics are talked about non stop for a couple of days on the news and then on to the next thing. remember that shooting in las vegas? yeah you know the largest mass shooting in american history?? it happened 5 months ago and everyone has forgotten about it. the news stopped talking about it altogether after about 3 weeks. i keep up with the news very regularly and there hasn’t been a single article about this deadliest mass shooting in american history that was committed by a white man with no obvious motive. the police were quick to declare the shooter acted alone, but had no idea why he’d even done it. i wonder if there is even an investigation going on, or if it’s just been swept under the rug like most everything else.

but i guess no one cares anymore.

A 14 year old gay performer was not an ordinary 14 year old. Anthony Rapp has got what he wanted: downfall of Spacey and rise of his popularity.
Not everyone wants social justice. Personal revenge is sweeter. You are righteous. But no need to complain on his behalf.

Testing something

Yep...... have noticed EXACTLY that.... especially "workplace" related.

Theres been a bunch of "abusers- your time is up" papers posted around some academic buildings on my campus and I had no clue what that meant. I call larping witchhunters

yup. i believe this 100%. I really hope more and more actors come out about it. & human trafficking of fucking course.

i just posted about alex winter coming out about his story, unfortunately his hollywood actor abuser is dead. but he is still out speaking about his experience in hollywood and as a child.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42919654

Here is a movie that was at Sundance that deals with a woman being groomed at 13 and it is the directors own story of sexual abuse.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/21/the-tale-review-stunning-sexual-abuse-drama-laura-dern

I got downvoted for saying this in another thread in the movie subreddit

This is exactly what everything i read on this movie mentions. Very misdirect but the message is clear as day if u follow the rainbow

Kubrick had just sent the tapes and called Tom that same night and talked until the early morning hours. There are many cuts to get an "R" rating, but honestly we know it is more than that. Nicole mentions more about the dream sequence in an interview that was supposedly cut. He truly was a genius. I wish he would've made A.I., imagine how it would've gone.

there it is. this is all political to you isnt it. you dont care about actual people just about bringing down the left

Oh yeah. It's definitely real.

All the major nexuses of power are interlinked. Hollywood is run by the CIA, and who runs the CIA?

100% this. True story here - after watching Eyes Wide Shut with my old roommate, and doing some extensive research on the conspiracies surround it, particularly the Cult of Saturn and references to Saturnalia, masonry, etc. in the film, I wrote a LONG email to another friend, explaining how I was pretty sure the movie was an auto-biographical account of how Kubrick was exposed to all this shit in Hollywood and that Tom Cruise is the stand-in for Kubrick, with a lot of explanations of the stuff surrounding the cult of Saturn and everything.

About a year later, I re-watched the movie with my girlfriend and wanted to find that email I sent my buddy. Looked through my Gmail, found every single email I ever sent him, going back years, except that one. I was perplexed, so asked my friend if he remembered it. He said definitely and searched his inbox for emails from me. Email wasn't there, even though he had emails from me going back years as well. We haven't changed our emails in years, so no address changes or anything. I don't ever delete things from my OUTbox (who does?) and am pretty organized when it comes to email. Wonder why it got deleted...

tl;dr Gmail deleted a lengthy email I had to my friend explaining my research on the occult secrets behind this movie.

Some say the film was cut and modified to make the movie appear to be about a marriage falling apart instead of a family sacrificing their daughter to a secret cult involving famous celebrities.

Nah, you're just making shit up. As a huge fan of the film and conspiracy, this comment kind of infuriates me. The film does touch on topics of secret societies, pedophilia, and a suspicious timing of Kubrick's passing, but the way you're recontextualizing it all rings really insincere.

Mind breaking down what your video clip "reveals"?

I’m glad you’ve turned this into an opportunity to complain about IP.

I'm also a white male, but we don't always need to do things under the guise of our regular persona. Some people make Facebook, Twitter or instagram accounts with the specific intent to wake people up. Oftentimes, these accounts don't show any personal information. You could make a non-personal twitter account and start a hash tag. :P

Who exactly are talking about exactly? Who are all these people ignoring woody Allen and bill Cosby? The people running Hollywood and who are being complicate are obviously a huge problem. But it’s not exclusive to Hollywood it’s every industry

There was also the scene with the custome shop guy and his underage daughter. She seemed to prostitute herself for a rich old guy. That was a very clear statement.

The orgy scene in Eyes Wide Shut is probably the most important. The clothing and masks are Venetian, which was the headquarters of the banking oligarchy until it started to shift to London in the 1500s. These orgies are absolutely real (Epstein's pedophile Island, for example), and are filmed to be used as blackmail in case anyone tries to double cross the oligarchy.

If anything, the Nasser case suggests that our knowledge of widespread pedophilia, coverups and deceit barely scratch the surface.

Think about how long a doctor got away with this: how many people/organizations stayed silent, vouched, and covered up for him when he had hundreds young victims. And this is just a doctor - not anyone with a ridiculous amount of fame, wealth, and power.

Imagine what multi-millionaire or billionaire executives, agents, studio owners, producers, celebs, etc can get away with if this is what a mere doctor was able to do.

Man I would love watching this movie with some person point out all the fucked up shit going on in it. Last time I saw this movie I was like 12 trying to get a bit off to that insane orgy scene.

Where does the daughter end up? I'm lost. You mean, caught up in the crowd as her parents(?) stop to talk?

Where does the daughter 'end up towards the end?

Definitely lazy. I'd have to scroll for days. Its honestly sad that you looked that far through my history. Get a hobby.

omg thank you for this rabbit hole! im sick in bed.

I remember back when this movie was being made Kubrick was told to edit it and he said "Over my dead body"

He died before it was released. (Edited and released)

That's a stretch

This is TOTALLY intriguing and watching the sequence in that light--it did seem weird to me the couple don't even look at their kid for four minutes--totally reinvents the movie.

BUT....the source material doesn't have anything like that at all. Not to say Kubrick wouldn't change things up, he often did, but that would be a big change up, bigger than anything he'd changed in any film prior.

Yes that's my point. They want men and women to compete. We were literally designed to work together. Even if you don't believe in God or whatever. We literally thrive best when together.

Can you even see your feet anymore?

To spread awareness about the disinformation campaign the Marxist left wages daily against the truth.

I never see it...when does she walk off

Who exactly is ignoring and covering up? And don't just say "the media," or "the elites." Sounds like a strawman to me. I don't believe there is a grand pedophilia coverup with hundreds of people involved. It would take way too much effort to keep something that big secret for very long. For some reason people find it more comforting to believe in a secret cabal of untouchable pedophiles than to accept that instances of famous or powerful people turning out to be pedos are random and unconnected almost every time. Maybe it's easier for them to believe in a collective evil that can all be vanquished in one fell swoop than to believe in a designless and chaotic world where people are haphazardly revealed to be monsters.

Hey man, if you're into this (as I am), please look into Lori Handrahan (https://twitter.com/LoriHandrahan2). Read her medium posts, listen to her interviews. I am already familiar with all the information you posted, and I think Lori's account of what happened to her and her research can shed even more light on how these rings operate, the perpetrators behind them, and how high-level they go. This is a new avenue of information for me; I'm compiling what I learn as I learn it in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7ujjc4/great_new_podcast_on_pedoconspiracythis_is_a_much/

join me!

Symbolism is grotesquely plastered all over that movie.

Kubrick knew exactly what the fuck he was doing with that film.

Where the daughter ends up towards the end? Have I missed something, the last you see is her walking down an isle of the toy shop?

Looking forward to watching that doc

I like to believe that Kubrick was intelligent enough to create multiple universal truths within his work. By not directly showing a specific scene regarding sexual abuse or genocide, it allows the viewer to create their own story. Quentin Tarantino understands this style of story telling well. Create the beginning and the end, but allow the viewer to imagine how the two connect. Take pulp fiction for example; what's in the suitcase? Where is Marcellus Wallace heading towards the end?

Do you use Gmail?

She's still between two of them. I don't see something like this being accidental, considering Kubrick was infamously meticulous with his shooting.

It links to the red room which is usually reserved for where blood is gonna be so that u cant see the rampage as easily. Link red room to medieval torture chamber

It is 'based' on historical document named 'Book of Negroes'. Just a story.

Read what the author said - "My character, an African woman named Aminata Diallo whose story is based on this history".

It is story based on historical event. Like anyone can write a 'fictional story' based on Civil war (historical event).

Sounds like you’re still triggered. Again, sorry for hurting your feelings.

No, but I think it just suggests a path they might have taken where the people took the daughter to keep him quiet, or display their ability to exert power over his life. . . it is not so much an alternate way to view the movie as it is mayba a cut plotline, one that would have made the films ominous overtone much less ambiguous. The movie suggests the lengths powerful people will go to keep secrets, but keeps its conclusions to itself. The mask on the bed, the two ways the girl could have died, but kidnapping? That would have made it too clear.

The fact that it ends on them saying they need to fuck always seemed to me a result of the marketing for the movie as being the "sexiest movie of all time" that they boxed kubrick into a corner he didn't want to be in. An interesting way to watch the movie is considering what kubrick knew about tom cruise personally, and the state of their marriage, performing the dialogue they do.

For some reason it is a meme that the parties involves trafficking and child sacrifice when the character that sells his daughter into prostitution isn't at the parties.

They sacrificed her. Awake being they understand the elite position and they want it