I saw a shinning something in the woods so bigfoot is real.

Your cousin's an idiot.

Van Allen Belt. We have not gone to the moon period.

So you believe NASA when they tell you that their probes have measured the van allen radiation, but not when they say they put men on the moon?

Yes. It makes more sense that they'd be lying about some things, rather than lying about everything, no?

What about them? Here is an old NASA document on them. Wasn't too much of a problem.

I'm going with this as my proof that what you allude to is factually incorrect, in that the Van Allen belt will not stop people going there. What are you using to backup your claim it will?

If you don't have a good rebuttal to physical evidence of a moon landing, why do you reject it?

To answer your question, the usual explanation by people who deny that humans walked on the moon is that robot probes deposited those reflectors. There are a lot of problems with that theory, but it's probably the best rebuttal to this particular evidence of the moon missions.

I'm pretty sure you can look at pictures and diagrams of everything that made a soft landing on the moon. You'd be hard-pressed to find a picture of one with a retro-reflector.

There are a lot of problems with that theory

Even by the public history there are little problems with that theory. Probes landed before humans are said to have.

There is zero definitive or truly independent 3rd party evidence of the landings. There are many claims, but very weak if challenged:

Japan's SELENE reconstructed photo of Apollo landing site - No footprints or landers.

A laughable photo from Chandrayaan-1 which is less convincing than common "Aliens on Mars" photos, compare it to this.

The Chang-e mission also claimed to find traces of Apollo, but they decided not to publish it

In other words the public are the slow children who are chasing the ball in a game of keep away. Not realizing the game ends if they actually get it.

https://i.redd.it/qknfo3qgr1401.jpg

originals:

1) https://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo11/hires/as11-40-5886.jpg

2) https://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo11/hires/as11_40_5874.jpg

indeed it is, because it certainly wasn't on the moon

in the OP, you say that you do not believe we landed on the moon

so effectively you have "broken thru" on this particular issue

you have discernment on this subject

so therefore what you think about the subject, will continue to color how you view future evidence

photos that once looked convincing, in the future will look fake

your brain will dictate how your eye will see the evidence, as illustrated in this short video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Qwp2GdB1M

your brain literally allows you to see it for what it truly is. I think it's easier to tell what's not real in this world, then what is

and of course, soon you will be called names like crazy, paranoid, delusional, etc

at which point you will be forced to confront the fact that psychiatry is basically a fancy way of name calling, meant to try and keep people in line.

psychiatrists are not interesting in helping people, they are only interested in controlling people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry

here is one womans experience with abuse of psychiatry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCqjYkX5yj0

Yep. I've been called everything under the sun already.

this is a very typical reaction, and makes me sad that this seems to be human nature

http://archive.is/4wJzm

but when someone resorts to name-calling, just know that you are dealing with a person who is intellectually at the bottom of this pyramid

https://i.redd.it/ufi38clcmxuy.png

I mostly keep it to myself now a days.

there are a lot of "woke" people out there, you just have to find one, and ask them to introduce you to their "woke" friends. the stuff that comes up on /r/conspiracy is well-accepted in my real-lie social circles

People don't listen, or have no interest in thinking against the narrative.

yes during their brainwashing and indoctrination, their minds are filled with models that are so complete, that their minds don't allow other models to co-exist

just consider flat earth vs ball earth

if your mind is filled with ball earth model, then it can't accept, acknowledge, contemplate, consider etc the flat earth model

if your mind is filled with the Bohr model of the atom, then it can't ... other models of atoms

it really takes a change in your own heart and mind to even want to consider other points of view.

we are usually very self-centered and can only see the world from our own perspective.

we think we have empathy, but its superficial and selective, like that of a psychopath

Won't look into things shown to them, or simply reply with "why does it matter anyway?". I no longer waste my energy.

people tend to rely on "thought terminating cliches" to end a conversation or debate. once you recognize that people do this habitually, it can be maddening

https://np.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccine/comments/6elmfl/thought_terminating_cliché_please_familiarize/

don't worry that people are not ready to hear what you have to say.

maybe instead of unloading a bunch of startling facts on some poor fool, just make a startling one-liner that is crafted in such as way as to make them ask you for clarification or elaboration

for example, just say "yeah, i think man made global warming is a hoax" and leave it at that.

the person you said it too will have a cascade of thoughts that might start out with something like "this guys an idiot"... but if you are face to face they may think it but won't necessarily say it

just remain silent, and let the pressure build on them to reply to what you just said, to break the awkward silence

and about the polite thing for them to say would be something like

"oh really, why do you believe that?"

at which point you give your reasoning... after they ask for it

if they don't ask for your reasoning, and just change the subject, thats fine too.

you've planted a seed in their mind, without upsetting them too much.

as time goes on that seed with affect how they view future news and info, whether they like it or not

As you stated, it's just a form of control. They will prescribe me drugs to make my "paranoia" go away. That just dulls your senses, basically making you forget. There is no real help in that. Why would they want to provide help for their slaves? Minimal care to keep them sustainable is quite enough.

its very depressing when you see your own cage

try to substitute good mental habits for bad mental habits

if you find yourself having a negative thought, immediately change your thought to something positive like Love, Peace, God etc

they call this a mantra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantra

"what you think, you become"

9 months is all?

I started looking at the moon landing stuff in probably 1998 or so

started looking at 9/11 stuff in about 2005

started looking at Boston Marathon Bombing in 2013

started looking at Vaccines and Autism in 2014

my suggestion to you or anyone else would be to make it a point to learn new names and faces every day.

if you read a news article and it mentions "Carter Page", look him up and find his face pics, his bio, etc

you'd be amazed at how many names and faces you can remember, in spite of Dunbars Number

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

later, when these names or faces come up in other contexts, you will put the dots together more quickly

like for example, the would-be assassin of Ronald Reagan was a close family friend of the Bush family, and GHW Bush would have been President had Reagan died

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley_Jr.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hinkley+bush+connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MADYzQstpsU

it can get very overwhelming, and depressing

with great knowledge comes great sorrow

ignorance is bliss

i know what you mean about science

you are way ahead of where i was at age 26. the sooner people can figure out some things, the better off their life will be

i tell people that there certain events that happen in your life that will define who you were before and after that event

for example,

Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent will forever change the way you look at the media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE

Earthlings documentary will forever change the way you look at the way people treat animals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vp7ZBdpKNo

http://meat.org will forever change the way you look at the way people eat animals

North Korean propaganda video will forever change the way you look at the media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQNLfo62f04

Well, no ground based telescope is powerful enough to make out anything that small on the surface of the moon. Luckily, we have the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which is quite a bit closer.

there are no retro reflectors on the moon

MIT has been measuring the distance to the moon with a laser since 1962

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

ok, so you can tell that this image has been manipulated, because there are words and arrows on it that are obviously not part of the original photo

once you acknowledge that the photo has been manipulated,

then the question becomes "how much" has it been manipulated

that makes the so-called evidence more questionable

the words and arrows suggest ideas that we otherwise probably not see for ourselves

http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Apollo_montage-v2.jpg

if you are asking if people "see" a reflector, the answer is "no"

if they "see" anything, its just a photon that bounced off the surface of the moon

the moon is already reflective, as evidenced by the fact that the moon reflects sunlight

Much like dinosaur bones, those reflectors were put there to test your resolve.

i heard that russians have put those shiny things on the moon too....and they haven't set foot there.

You don't know the difference between astrology and astronomy?

You might want to look that up.

Well, if he goes to a college or university in which they teach astrology, he might want to find a different school.

You're not very bright, eh?

did you go to a school where they gave diplomas and degrees to idiots who believe that men walked on the moon?

https://i.redd.it/lzs2kkd6ove01.png

Clever.

No, I went to school in Houston because my mom worked for NASA, alongside Apollo astronauts and engineers.

so stupidity runs in the family?

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7vgm69/the_moon_landing_hoax_is_a_litmus_test_for_stupid/

https://i.redd.it/lzs2kkd6ove01.png

They can see something a trillion miles away, but they haven't been able to design a telescope capable of actually seeing the lander or flag on the Moon. They have some CGI images (they never call them photographs for a reason) that have an arrow pointing to a pixel with the word "flag" next to it, if you believe that. For some gullible people, that's plenty proof.

It's so funny when people say this because it's based on your opinion and nothing conclusive.

Onus is on you to back up your claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBAznZwqVg

Try again without using a youtube clip.

well as long as you want to play that game,

please provide evidence that men have walked on the moon,

and note that any film or video is preemptively rejected, because i don't like those particular file types

oh, and i won't accept photos either, because they can be manipulated

Well your trying to convince me we did not go there and what I see is does not convince me one iota.

I believe we have been there so pick anything from nasa or the astronauts that have stated this, which for you is probably pointless as you will state that nasa and their cohorts are lying us all. which again you have no proof of so ...

after many years of debate, with many different people with different background and educations etc there seemed to be a pattern of how the math and physics would be debated,

but unfortunately most of these debates were fragmented, incomplete, and out of order, and so people/lurkers didn't get the benefit of seeing all the various arguments worked out in a single debate

so therefore i sat down one day and wrote out all of the most popular arguments, and arranged them into a logical sequence

the format is a question, and a suggested answer

the reader is encouraged to fact-check the facts presented

to demonstrate comprehension, the reader is encouraged to re-write the questions, but to paraphrase them in their own words

https://i.redd.it/lzs2kkd6ove01.png

You do like that image don't you.

Let me make it real simple.

What is to be gained by saying we went there, going through all the trouble to create the endless stream of image and live streams of nothing but CGI as you put it along with the op. There is just nothing to be gained other than being able to say to the russians "ner ner we put a man on the moon!"

So with all the research you have done on this tell me what there is to be gained from this "lie" ?

what was gained by going to the moon?

unnecessary reflectors?

a hammer and feather experiment thats debunked by a guy in his bedroom doing the exact same experiment?

nobody has been able to sufficiently explain why it was important to go to the moon at the same time as the US was losing a war in Viet Nam

So rather than trying to answer my question you try to turn it around lmfao.

So with all the research you have done on this tell me what there is to be gained from this "lie" ?

Answer it.

i made it myself, you can find my name in the top right corner

https://i.redd.it/lzs2kkd6ove01.png

i like it because it preemptively debunks whatever arguments you can come up with, and all i have to do is reference the number of the question, and it will be presented in context that is favorable to my narrative development

basically i got tired of having to re-explain these simple concepts over and over to each new idiot i encountered, so this makes it much less labor intensive for me to smack down your moon landing myth

i have posted this to /r/conspiracy a few times, giving the critics and skeptics every opportunity to debunk it or ask me questions

thus far, the questions are still standing, and the moon landing believers have failed to debunk it.

have a look at these lame comments that some people consider to be a debunking:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3wkzaf/apollo_moon_landing_story_problems_for_math_and/

I know you have made it yourself and you think it is really great because you keep insisting on spreading it all over this sub-reddit and as many have told told you already it does fuck all for you.

It could be something that normally happens on the moon, or maybe something we shot over there, no need to be put there by people, the most important prove of the moon landing fake is the testimony of astronauts they said there were no stars, while the modern ones say there are many? who is telling the truth?

this guy^ should be top comment

Thanks for the props

Next thing you'll be telling us the earth is flat!

Lmfao

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/busting-a-myth-about-columbus-and-a-flat-earth/2011/10/10/gIQAXszQaL_blog.html