I haven’t even thought of the Israeli deep state until I heard about the strike in Syria the other day. I thought Israel was draining their swamp too? I thought Huckabee was a good Patriot but he seems to be justifying Israel’s horrific air strike in Syria which, at first, was blamed on Pro-Assad forces. Deep state Israel actually attacked some of our SOF teams. Such an obvious false flag by Israel and now they are blaming it on a “rouge drone” flying in their airspace. F*ck the deep state and the cabal!!! They are trying to drag our US military into a proxy war with Iran! Please, President Trump, bring all our soldiers home and let the Middle East fight their own stupid battles.

I thought Huckabee was a good Patriot

Odd way to admit not having any knowledge or paying any attention.

You seriously thought he was a decent person before? Yikes...

President Trump, bring all our soldiers home and let the Middle East fight their own stupid battles.

lol

When on earth did an Israeli airstrike hit US SoF teams? Do you even understand the geography of Syria?

Check out the 8th paragraph down....turns out the “pro-Assad” forces were the Israelis. The author misspelled “SFO” as “soft”.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript-View/Article/1436590/media-availability-with-secretary-mattis/

Yeah, it says pro-assad forces. Not Israel. Better read it more carefully next time mate.

For one, Israeli airstrikes were in the Damascus and Palmyra districts. And there is footage for proof. Deir Ez Zor is quite very far from Palmyra.

Second, the report says the "Pro Assad forces" used artillery and tanks. Israel used neither of those, because neither its artillery nor tanks can drive hundreds of kilometers in a matter of minutes.

Dude, turns out it was Israel. Israel admitted it!

When? Where?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/10/world/middleeast/israel-iran-syria.html

Nowhere does it say anything close to that.

I understand why you defend Israel so hard (IDF) and Israel is a good country ...but just like America, Israel has a deep state. Their deep state and our deep state just want to keep us in perpetual proxy wars. If you cannot admit that, then your bias blinds you.

Aren't all states interested in that?

I would hope that each nation can live without corruption at the top. That each country elect leaders that truly care about their people and not sell out to the cabal. I admire the Israeli people and think tremendously about the skilled soldiers in the Israeli Army. It is all the underhanded subversive illegal acts perpetrated by the deep states that we (normal people) are sick and tired of.

I'll never be sick of defending God's people

The majority of Israelis are good people, just like in America. It is the deep state portion of the mossad (like our deep state clowns) that decide what wars the US gets involved in. I am sure the mossad has great Israelis working there...but something is very wrong with the horrible acts they have perpetrated (911) to get us involved in their proxy wars.

If not them, there would be another for us to latch onto. I'm a Christian, Jesus was a Jew. I will always support the Jewish community - regardless of the Mossad. Like you said, their deep state doesn't represent the real people of Isreal.

You support the Pharisees, you know the people who Christ described as the children of Satan. You should read what their holy book the Talmud has to say about Jesus or maybe just try reading the Bible. You're are a useful idiot for people who seek to destroy the values you supposedly care about. For all your proclamations of your Christianity you seem to know nothing about it.

As a Christian, I see what you’re saying here, but do you not remember Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.? This is the work of the Zionists, they are not the true Jews.

"Since the day that I brought my people out of the land of Egypt, I chose no city in all the tribes of Israel in which to build a house, that my name might be there, and I chose no man as prince over my people Israel;but I have chosen Jerusalem that my name may be there and I have chosen David to be over my people Israel."

The Bible is a tricky one. Lots of room for interpretation. I typically don't like getting in Bible debates, but I find it abundantly clear that there is a strong tie in the relationship between Christians and Jews. Of course, not all Jews and not all Christians believe that. The variances in belief amungst each religion make the issue not so black and white, and rather touchy. My only point it that I default to the defense of the (general) Jewish community - more so locally in this part of the world than Isreal.

I absolutely agree. For me personally, I cannot dismiss the the false claims mentioned in the Bible and not tie that directly to the behaviors of the Zionists.

why did you stand by while Saddam and later ISIS murdered millions of Assyrians? You had three decades to act.

If you didn't know, Assyrians are closer today ethnically to Jesus (the actual real person) than the Israelites. They even spoke the same language. They were some of the first Christian groups and have been shit on for 2000 years. Hell, the US and Canada barely took any refugees in and lumped them in with Muslims.

Swell job following actual events from Christ's lifetime and sticking to Revelations, which is considered an Apocryphal part of the Bible by most Christian sects outside of Evangelism.

Keep your judgment, it means nothing to me. Thanks bye

Means nothing to God either friend.

Did you not pay attention in Sunday school? The Jews viewed Jesus as a false prophet. This is true of every mainline sect of Christianity.

If you believe in reckoning,you’ll find out sooner than later.

Never went to Sunday school. Church is for the weak.

You should try it , you might learn Christianity isn't about worshipping an ethnic group or sending your kids to die in Israeli wars so that you can trick God into sending sci-fi Jesus so you don't have to face death.

Well it's a good thing I agree with you then. None of what you said represents what I think. Would you like to jump to any other conclusions, partner?

You commented here saying you'll "never get sick of defending God's people" in a post about not wanting to fight wars for Israel so don't back track now. It won't be you fighting these wars will it? No it'll be young people because you're too cowardly to do it yourself. You also refer to Jews as God's people and if you knew anything about Christianity or read the Bible you would know that the Jews who followed Christ were God's people not the people who killed him. If you don't support endless chaos in middle east because of a second coming end game than you must be a sadist who just enjoys death no? Have the courage of your convictions, even of they are idiotic.

You have a lot of hate in your heart sir, no need to attack me. I'd suggest taking your idealistic world views and vote for a(some) democrat(s). Sir, this is not the place to argue scripture, but I'll have you know that both I and my wife are Seminary graduates. You are showing how little you know of Gods heart.

Yeah the one who is arguing for less wars is the hate filled one. If you think fighting more wars is moral because you fetishize jews you should get your brain checked. You should also look at getting a refund from your seminary because you left with zero historical understanding and the morality of a cockroach.

You are arguing with yourself pal, your words are of no meaning to me

Stick you head in the sand, you'll be in for a rude awakening one day soon cockroach

Ok, Craig, no need to attack me. I did nothing to you

No you just want to send people to die for your kooky beliefs

Where did I say that? And how do you know what my beliefs are?

OP posted he didn't want to fight wars for Netanyahu against Iran, you commented you will never be sick of defending "God's people." Do you lack reading comprehension abilities or do you just come here to make your philo-semitism know in any post about Israel?

Defending, key word. Coming to the defense of. Not being offensive for

You're making that decision for others though. I'm not Israeli so why should I have to die defending Israel because some kook misunderstands the Bible? Also when you bomb sovereign countries without provocation that is not defending yourself, but as long as its Israel doing it I'm sure you don't care.

You don't know the 1sy thing about war

You don't know anything about the Bible and yet you go around telling everyone about your dopey beliefs. And I know a hell of a lot more than you about war and the situation in the Middle East but you're too stupid to realize what you don't understand.

Boring. Go tickle your goat Craig

Keep agitating for war while you would never serve yourself. Enjoy your irrelevance old man.

Old man? I'm in my thirties. War is natural to humans. There is always a battle to be fought between good and evil, it's inherent.

So you think it's better leave Isreal to defend itself against all sorts of enemies? It wouldn't end well for a lot of people, the the casualties of War would be exponentially greater than if we intervened. Our intervention is more of a roadblock than an offensive, we are there to prevent large scale conflict. There is a lot that I believe you don't understand about this, which is why you get a pass.

Yes, I would love for there to be zero conflicts that the US is a part of, but reality doesn't allow for this. The moral high ground is to say I'm sick of being engaged with wars. Although I can fundamentally agree with that, there are other moral obligations that factor in.

Cultivate virtue in the town, and it will be lasting. Cultivate virtue in the country, and it will be abundant. Cultivate virtue in the world, and it will be universal.

You keep saying I don't understand but you don't explain what I don't understand. It seems you can't come to terms with your own ignorance. The fact that you want to send others to fight, but won't do it yourself proves you are a chickenhawk coward. You could go volunteer to fight for Israel and not drag Americans who have no interest in doing so into it, but you won't because you are to chicken shit to fight yourself. Your bloodlust and cowardice is astonishing.

The fact that you want to send others to fight, but won't do it yourself proves you are a chickenhawk coward.

I can admit to a lot of things that I AM, but a coward I am not. I hope you understand that attacking people is not a constructive way to go aboyt anything. All you have is a name calling hat, a supposed moral high ground, and a lack of compassion (which is ironic considering how hateful you act)

If you want to "understand" then ask questions, I'll be happy to talk about anything you want - including why I default to the defense of the Jews/Isreal - and why I believe there is obligation to do so.

I would like to know, if you disagree with defending them, do you support their opposition? Or are you 100% nuetral about it? Are you a Non-interventionaliat?

I don't care about why you fetishize Jews, I care that you think you are not a coward and yet are too afraid too fight yourself. The fact that you are happy to send kids who have no interest in fighting for Israel to die, while too scared to pick up a gun and do it yourself is the definition of cowardice. I don't care what Israel does as long as we don't have to send them money and be on the hook for their poor behavior, but since dupes like you exist who allow an environment where Americans have to do their dirty work I would rather they stop attacking their neighbors and creating settlements that make the rest of the world hate them. I support acting in the interests of Americans not Israelis.

You are projecting, typical Freudian response when there is a lack of insight. I'm done with you.

Did you just learn those words today? Guess you have no defense for your cowardice, hope you learn to accept it. Enjoy being the chicken shit faggot you are.

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Congrats on being able to use google. If you want to treat others the way they would like to be treated maybe you shouldn't support them being sent to die for Israel when you wouldn't do it yourself. Try to live up to your own values retard.

Rule 4

This is what Jesus thinks of the Jews, according to the book of John, Chapter 8:

"I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father. They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do what Abraham did. ... You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is you are not of God."

The norsemen?

has to be the Franks

Maybe the Moors?

Nah, bruh. The Kardashians!

The card says Moops.

Who are gods people??

The real answer to that question is "everyone".

Pretty sure all people are God's People.

But which God?

This guy gets it

now if we can just eradicate all those people who aren't God's people...

Where did you serve?

He’s currently serving on the front lines in the great reddit war.

Godspeed soldier

The last apartheid state, Israel has been dependant on the levers of Foreign Power since long before it's inception. Even as mandatory Palestine the Jewish extremist zealots maintained one goal: the eventual removal of Palestinian people. It's in der judenstaat, was asked of the ottomans, the british, and tore the fledgling league of nations to shreads. What's up with these world wars swirling around Jewish questions? No, wait, don't answer that...

The last apartheid state? You are joking, right? How many Jews or Christian's live freely in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, etc. In some of these places, you could be put to death for being caught with a bible. Talk about apartheid...

Fair criticisim, but I'd say the feature of Israel's apartheid character comes from the history it shares as a successor of British colonial Classisim. Specifically race based classism. I'm not saying that this isn't a shitty neighborhood, but being the nicest house in the ghetto is still shit. An inclusive Israel can be a solution to many problems.

The last Apartheid state? Isn't the U.S letting Puerto Ricans rot with no federal voting rights?

They don't have voting rights because they're not a state...

Wonderful. They should be given either representation or sovereignty.

Um I don't think you know how statehood and Federal voting rights really work. If they wanted to they could become a state and have full voting rights. They haven't done so.

Fair criticism, as an American I'm often short sighted or blinded by propaganda. America is no exception and should enfranchise every citizen.

I'm sure trump will take us to war woth Iran and the while way the trump shills will be all THEY'RE TERRORISTS REEEEEEEE!!!!!

I'm pretty sure Iran was Hillary Clinton's boogieman, not Trump's.

It's israels so it's trumps now.

We'll see how it plays out. He certainly doesn't demonize Iran like Clinton did.

TDS still going strong

you serisouly think trump isnt letting neocons and the military industrial complex do what they want? why are we doing more in syrisa? more drone strikes? more military budgets? more troops in afganistan?

That's different. We were talking about attacking Iran based on a terrorist false flag in which all of his supporters would blindly accept.

many would, im sure TD would support it

I'll gladly stand by and defend Israel!

Why?

When you get maimed in combat and the your country throws you away like garbage, I wonder if you'll feel the same way. There is a reason that Jews reprssent 2% of the American population, 10% of Congress and 0.2% of the US military.

Why, because they're smart enough to get professional jobs and political posts, and not so stupid to enlist in voluntary military fighting bullshit wars?

That sounds like the reason.

...not so stupid to enlist in a voluntary military fighting bullshit wars?

Bullshit wars fought on Israel's behalf. And, yes, it would be stupid of them to leave their cush office jobs and risk their lives when they can have Americans do it for them.

And, yes, it would be stupid of them to leave their cush office jobs and risk their lives when they can have Americans do it for them.

Volunteer armed forces. The Americans want to serve their country.

Volunteer armed forces. The Americans want to serve their country.

Except they only seem to serve Israel's backers.

I disagree, because I'm not an anti-Semite or anti-Zionist etc.

Those wars were in American self-interest and were executed disastrously.

I disagree, because I'm not an anti-Semite or anti-Zionist etc.

Ahh, the tired hasbara tactic of accusing anybody who exposes Israeli criminality of being an anti-semite.

Those wars were in American self-interest and were executed disastrously.

There is no benefit to the US from destroying Iraw, Libya, Syria, and soon Iran. These conflicts are prime ecamples of the fact that Israel is the foreign bogeyman that really manipulates the US government.

Ahh, the tired hasbara tactic of accusing anybody who exposes Israeli criminality of being an anti-semite

Yawn. No. Feel free to agree or disagree with Israeli foreign and domestic policy. I don't care what you do.

But let's not pretend most who do so are doing so out of genuine concern for Palestinians, nor out of strategic concern for other nations in the Middle East.

It's patently obvious, at least in this sub, that the overwhelming majority of anti-Israel/ anti-Zionist statements come from people who are bigoted against Jews as a people.

I have no patience for that, especially from losers who can't either see the real problem in their society (still the military-industrial complex) or take ownership of their actions (being deluded by jingoism and xenophobia).

There is no foreign boogeyman.

It's patently obvious, at least in this sub, that the overwhelming majority of anti-Israel/ anti-Zionist statements come from people who are bigoted against Jews as a people.

It's like a broken record. You really need some new tactics, as the word antisemitic has lost all meaning due to overuse.

I have no patience for that, especially from losers who can't either see the real problem in their society (still the military-industrial complex) or take ownership of their actions (being deluded by jingoism and xenophobia).

Israel was complicit in 9/11 and is responsible for the destruction of Iraq, Syria, Libya and soon Iran. These are facts that you should have no patience for.

There is no foreign boogeyman.

Read a book.

itt: people who lie to themselves about american infiltration from a foreign agent i.e. israel

but why though?

Any mention of it is branded as antisemitism

Maybe because a majority of blame goes to "THE ((JEWS))" and not Israel. You start saying the Jews are to blame for everything, and it turns people off. It would be like my blaming Christians for the Iraq/Afganistan war, even though Bush said God told me, and that he said the wars were a Crusade.

Close. But the assholes you're concerned about in this sub don't really care about Israel or it's relationship to the Palestinians, or anyone else. (They're not pro-Palestinian activists. They're not Palestinian-Americans, etc.)

They hate Jews and use everything else as a pretext to either express that hate, or to justify its existence.

I agree

Zionist would be the appropriate term to discern between those that want an ethno-state of the "chosen people," and the regular Jews that usually get caught in the crossfire (many Israelis included).

Maybe because a majority of blame from /r/conspiracy goes to "THE ((JEWS))" and not Israel.

You are right. It is important to make a distinction between "the Jews" (aka the "Children of Israel") and the political state of Israel, and the Jewish Americans who support it (aka Jewish Zionists).

But is it necessarily unfair or inaccurate to make generalizations?

Would it be inaccurate to say "Americans elected Donald Trump as their President"?

If not, then saying "American Jews support Israel" would be far more accurate.

A 2016 Pew Research poll showed that the overwhelming majority of Jews (87%) in the US see "Caring about Israel" (the political state) as being an 'Essential' or 'Important' part of being Jewish. Meanwhile, only 12 % said that it is not an important part of being Jewish.

Similarly, 69% of American Jews surveyed said that they are either 'Very' or 'Somewhat' Emotionally attached to the political state of Israel, compared to 31% who said that they are 'Not very' or 'Not at all' emotionally attached to Israel.

Also, only 11% of American Jews surveyed said that the US government is 'Too supportive of Israel'., while 31% said it is 'not supportive enough', and 51% said US support is 'About right'.

It is also worth noting that a whopping 40% of Jews polled said that they had visited Israel.

So while it is important to differentiate Jews (the ethnic group) from Israel (the Zionist state), the support for the Zionist state among non-Israeli Jews is so overwhelmingly high that broad statements such as "Jews support Israel" are not at all inaccurate.

This guy gets it!

Are you Jewish?

[blushes...]

Are you? ;-)

Don't you know that we need to worry about Russia?! /s

also palestine before israel

Amazing, thank you.

What even is a Jew anymore?

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/New-law-says-genetic-test-valid-for-determining-Jewish-status-in-some-cases-506584

Also this:

Jewish Genetic Disease Consortium "An alliance of individuals and organizations working together to prevent Jewish Genetic Diseases through education, awareness and screening"

These diseases have become prominent as the result of social isolation and in-group breeding for countless generations, beginning with the biblical Abraham. They are, essentially, one big "family", consisting of two main branches (the Ashkenazi, and Sephardic-Mizrahi), and several smaller "twigs" (such as the Ethiopian Jews).

Modern anthropologists tell us that there is no such thing as "races" among humans, that "race is a social construct".

They may be right, but if so, Jews are about as close to a "race" as it gets. There remains a strong tendency for Jews to cling to this familial/racial group identity, as is evidenced in their ethnic culture, traditions and behavior, especially in the state of Israel, where it is forms the core of national policy.

Exactly. Its genetics, i.e. its a race of people pushing their supremacy. Through media which they have taken over they managed to twist the public opinion where its considered as hateful not to support Jewish supremacy. Antisemitism they call it.

What even is a Jew anymore? Truly it can only be loosely cultural, as their consistent migration and ethnic mingling could not possibly hold any dominant genetic traits present during Roman rule.

Actually they've mingled so little and been so insular that jewish genetic traits are quite distinct from their peers. Specifically ashkenazi jews are the ethnic group with the highest ethnicity. This trait, along with the much more significant 'togetherness' above all in the jewish community, the fact that they've stuck together and supported the community for the past 3 millenia, i think is the reason that a community with a population of 10 million worldwide can hold positions of great economic, political, and media power.

lol it was always funny to me that the idea of being against miscegenation is considered an appalling type of bigotry (especially nowadays). It's thought of as unacceptable and backwards and racist, UNLESS.... you're Jewish. Then it's okay, for... some fucking reason.

Jews control the press in the USA, so there will always be people who are gaslighted into thinking it is in our best interest to use the military to clear space for greater Israel. Iran probobly didn't fly a drone over Israel airspace, but the Jewish media is eager to print their lies. Iraq was destroyed for Israel and now Syria is as well, but the Russians are helping Assad resist, which is the reason Russia is the current enemy according to our media.

Look at the comments down thread: how are the Jews 'god's people' more so than you or me?

Exactly, not the Russia is exactly an ally, but in that regards they are free to do what is in their interest in the reason, which surprise, surprise not to help Israel.

They're not God's people.

What merciful God would give Heaven to 15m people and Hell to 7b people?

Building "heaven" out of the sweat of Americans and the blood of Arabs. No benevolent god would do such a thing.

Old Testament ‘God’ and the God Jesus spoke of are clearly not the same entity. Realizing that opened my eyes to a lot of the lies I was fed having been raised in a very strict Christian cult my whole life. I realize many atheists have good cause to reject the idea of a God for that very reason.

We’re tricked into thinking a God of love, mercy, and justice would have a ‘special nation’ above all others and then instruct them to murder the people who lived around them for having differing beliefs. Religion seems to have been the best way to inoculate people to spirituality. It’s truly sick how successful evil people can be at twisting good into evil.

Do you still believe in god? How do you reconcile the two different gods

I do. I think Yahweh might have originally been a positive being but it was likely taken over by a negative group who forced things like the Ten Commandments (thou shalt NOT) which when phrased like that is almost guaranteed to have the opposite effect. I think that being or group infringed on Free Will by enforcing obedience and overall really fucked people up psychologically.

People should live and let live, I think normally that’s how we all want to be. When you’re raised religiously though, everyone is in each other’s business and acting holier than thou when they discover your personal “sins”. I was raised in a snitching environment where the “elders” could discipline you for stepping out of line, even disfellowshipping you forcing your friends and family to completely shun you if you didn’t believe every single thing you’re told to believe.

I don’t anthropomorphize God anymore and see him/her/it as a person but as a force. God is our Creator, our Universe, or maybe our Galaxy. I believe there are levels to soul evolution and humans are at the Third Density of the complete Octave. Things like animals are in the Second Density. Yahweh, Jesus, Buddha, Krishna etc. were likely Fourth or Fifth Density beings and had abilities that would make them appear to be Gods to primitive humans. I mean, what were “angels flying in mid heaven with great wings making a terrible noise”? Sounds like technology to me.

Life is an endless cycle and you and I and everyone and everything are each a single facet of God or the Logos, slowly advancing through the stages as we learn our life lessons and progress . I think we exist to experience Life in its infinite possibilities. We are all One and there is no real separation between all life, only identity. Anyway, I read and watch a lot of David Wilcock’s research if any of that resonates with you and you’re interested in that kind of thing.

Say: "O ye that stand on Judaism! If ye think that ye are friends to God, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful." But never will they express their desire (for Death), because of the (deeds) their hands have sent on before them, and God knows well those that do wrong.

Quran 62:6-7

"Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers. How can you escape the judgement of hell?"-Isa

"Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers. How can you escape the judgement of hell?"-Isa

What drone? The entire incident didn't happen. The Syrians lied about shooting AA missiles, and everyone lied about the Israeli F-16 that was shot down. It was just illuminati's lies again.

That's so 2011

Let's not forget STUXnet. And yes, this is will be the beginning of WWIII. Now, or sometime in the future. Netanyahu... is a fucking yahoo. Literally stirs the pot every chance he can get.

You haven't fought shit you put pussy.

You're the pussy.

great post and i wholeheartedly agree....Nazi Israel is a plague on this planet.

Are you one of those that prefers the side of American Jews like John Kerry? Because your comment implies you agree with his worldview - http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/24/report-john-kerry-contacted-palestinians-ordered-them-to-not-work-with-trump/

Are you one of those that prefers the side of American Jews like John Kerry? Because your comment implies you agree with his worldview - http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/24/report-john-kerry-contacted-palestinians-ordered-them-to-not-work-with-trump/

i don't care about someones religion...i care about crimes against humanity funded by my tax dollars and those that profit off evil...and Nazi Israel is the starting QB on that team.

Congress (D+R) just voted to increase military spending by another $300B, so you are obviously not getting the same kickbacks they are getting. Why does a military that us 3x-10x the size of any other country need billions more? What's about to happen? Hmm.

Why does a military that is 3x-10x the size of any other country need billions more?

How else are they going to offer so much money & benefits to the mercenaries/welfare queens registering in droves. Every week at least one employee quits their job at my place of business to join the military & suckle the tax payer teat.

But the milk's gone bad

Lol I'm sure basic training is harder than anything you do at your job. Maybe if you offered competing benefits the free market would shine upon you

LOL @ serving your country being considered suckling the taxpayer teat.

It's an ongoing jobs program. It's also a profession that allows you to get paid whether you go to work or not. We pay for their healthcare, theur education, their room and board, their meals, their travel, etc... For the majority of them, they just have to stand and be counted.

For the majority of them, they just have to stand and be counted.

What about the ones that come home with missing limbs? What about the ones who will spend years in therapy trying to deal with their PTSD? What about the ones who never come home? Every single person who signs up to the military is volunteering to give a limb, their sanity, or their life in a moments notice if called on to do so. How many jobs do you know that require you to sign up for that? I'm guessing your job doesn't. You're damn right the benefits better be top notch since they sure as shit aren't getting rich on military pay.

And don't get it twisted. I hate any senseless waste of life and I hate the politicians and private interests that get us into useless wars, but I don't hold the men and women who serve responsible for that. We are always going to need a strong military, and it makes no sense to vilify the people who serve in it.

What about the ones that come home with missing limbs? What about the ones who will spend years in therapy trying to deal with their PTSD? What about the ones who never come home?

What about them?

We are always going to need a strong military, and it makes no sense to vilify the people who serve in it.

What did I say to villify them? I'll concede that it is not a jobs program, rather it has everything in common with a jobs program other than the name.

At least w/public works we have a stronger national infrastructure as a result.

What about them?

I think the full quote explained my view, if you want to address it be my guest.

What did I say to villify them?

Acting like these people are getting a cushy free ride that they don't deserve on the taxpayer dime isn't vilifying them?

No offense intended, and with all due respect, rational conversation will continue to elude us if we can't both get on the same page with regard to basic definitions of words in the English language.

Villify: To make a villain of or to portray someone as a villain.

Villain: Evil-doer.

What did I say to villify them?

Acting like these people are getting a cushy free ride that they don't deserve on the taxpayer dime isn't vilifying them?

No. Not even close. Even if I had stated above that which you are attributing to me, I would not be guilty of casting those in our military as villains. I stated that the military is a jobs program. A person can have nothing and come from nothing, barely be able to read or write, and sign a contract with an institution that will provide them with free room and board, health care, a free education at the higher learning institution of their choosing, retirement after 20 years w/pension, free travel and the privilege of seeinv the world, etc... Joining the military is the easiest way to break the cycle of poverty, crime, and lack of education that many families cope with today. A person can go from homeless to middle class in the space of ten years and provide the ground work, lay a foundation, for their families for generations to come. It is the grandest example of upward socio-economic mobility in the history of the world.

I mean they could just not join the military.

It's not like it's a secret that the US uses it's military almost exclusively for evil shit for the last 60 years.

If I was going to take a job that required me to move and give up my rights, I would probably do a little research first.

Not to mention calling us service members mercenaries. Someone’s Dad didn’t touch them enough...

Why does it need more? Maybe because previous admins mishandled their budgets & we decided to do something new recently & audit them. The better question would be where did the missing $ from the previous admins go? - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/auditors-say-pentagon-agency-mishandled-hundreds-of-millions-in-construction-projects/ar-BBIKvnT

Throwing good money after bad works exactly 0% of the time.

We are the global attack dogs of the international bankers. That requires funding.

but I agree a false flag to start a war with Iran in Syria is plausible at any moment.

Syria is backed by Russia, so there will be no major war there. If anything, all the Jews can really do is more false flag, fund/back/arm ISIS and send them in, or attack Iran and or other countries which are nearby but not Russian backed

i guess if you looked at how much spending obama cut curing his years, then trump can raise it like this a few times and only get back to pre 2008 levels. i’ll see if i can look up a spending chart for this whole time period

Its been a spending shit show ever since we got off the gold standard Obama added 10T to the debt, Trump will do no better.

no dude. deficient isn’t 1to1 on military spending

Could just be fixing all the corps broken shit we got some old trash.

What wars have been fought for Israel?

well someone is an anti semite

"We don't have to prop up these doomed fucks." - Am ha'Aretz

r/DestroyZion Americans against Israel, Zionist and Zionists.

It is a valid concern OP. I don't want any more wars between the West and Muslims in the West, nor do I want to start shit with Russia.

The amount of sanity they're willing to push on because they won't arrest some high ranking pedos... yeeesh.

What about the low ranking pedo's? You really think it's only the high ranking one's that are the problem? Parents can approve the marriages of their daughters to adult men in Muslim countries? Does Israel still allow child marriages?

• https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

• http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28250471

"muslim" countries

⬆️ someone that would never willingly relocate to one & pledge allegiance to islamic laws.

There are no muslim coutries, just countries with a muslim population.

Depends what their laws are....

No they apply them hypocritically, best example saudi royal family

Hypocritical to what? A King Fahd created their constitution

Hypocrite toward religion, they are a bunch of fakes.

How are they being hypocritical to religion?...I think you’re missing the point here...

No its because you're not religious so you don't understand.

What we call a hypocrite is someone who claims to be religious yet tells complete STRANGERS ONLINE that they’re not religious...I’m Methodist (Christian)....but keep letting the voices in your head tell you I’m not...religion should not be involved in government period...Then it wouldn’t matter if the officials are religious “fakes”

Lol you're a joke, being hypocrite is simply doing the opposite of what you say when no one is watching.

Hypocrite is synonymous to liar, deceiver, etc.

Except those nation's with Islam literally in their official name.

No, they are just hypocrites.

The Talmud permits.

Not commonly practiced in Israel in modern times.

Any is too much.

I Ain't Marching Anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgAiuHIBlVs

I ran is old news, Iran and Syria are Russia’s problem now. Trump has subtlety been shifting his focus to Pakistan. If the US controlled Air Space over Afghanistan and Pakistan it would make a ideal jumping off point for future Wars in South East Asia specifically China.

The Middle East is over with increased US Oil Production and Electric Power Cars and Solar Powered Homes on the close horizon there is no great need to control the flow of Oil out of the Oil rich Arab Countries.

I think the shift toward Central Asia has more to do with the Iron Silk Road than the US actually starting a war with China, though I'm sure the US would like to be able to have that option clearly on the table.

Oil and gas are losing their total stranglehold on global energy production, but they'll still be major concerns for the next 20 years, and especially for militaries and shipping.

Hear! Here!

The Rothschilds insisted they build their nation where it is. They bought Jerusalem and madatedthat the diaspora re-settle there. They funded the war for independence. The banks have been behind Israel for some time now.

You are right on the button. The Rothschilds have been working on all this shit for literally hundreds of years. They made their fortunes by loaning money to the countries fighting the wars. More than once they have financed both sides. They are evil and there will never be peace on Earth while they exist.

I think i whole world is done fiting US' wars

WWI - European war WW2 - USA sucked in after years of taking non-interventional stance Vietnam - preceded by Gulf of Tonkin false flag War on Terrorism - preceded by 9/11 false flag and carefully crafted by deep state, military industrial complex, and Israel

It's hard to call them USA wars. The US has a rogue government in conjunction with the globalists that is a state onto it's own.

I tough US was a democracy!

Nope, oligarchy

C'mon, man. The rockets red glare. The bombs bursting in air.

america-at-war-93-percent-of-the-time-222-239-years-since-1776.html

The Jew hatred is in this sub needs to stop.

We get r/conspiracy hates the Jews.

(“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East)[https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815]

why did israel give back lots of land it took in wars?

Ja das ist der Lebensraum.

Be sure to read 1.2, 'Racist ideology'. "Untermenschen" must give way to Herrenvolk Chosen People™.

What war have you fought?

I'm with you. Times are changing. Even in conservative circles I've begun to hear disgust at what they are realizing is happening. No more conservative blood for the zionists and corporate international technocrats.

As a Palestinian, this response means so much to me.

I consider myself to be a moderate on the political spectrum (US) and I'm disgusted with Israel and their dirty practices. A lot of them do not even like us or appreciate what America does for them. Many videos on youtube of them mocking us.

I always thought it wasn't the jews but zionists that are controlling everything

I'm an American citizen. I fully expect Donald Trump to take us into a full scale war with Iran, on behalf of Netanyahu and Israel - under the pretense of some nonsensical false flag.

If this does not happen will you reconsider your beliefs about israeli influence in the US?

The US Government has to know that it is backing itself into a corner with this Israel thing.... It is losing domestic legitimacy, which is the first step in losing wars and international credibility.

I don't know man. I've been in the IDF for 5 years, done my mandatory service plus 2 years of professional service. While I wasn't in combat duty, I have done my part and a respectable service to my country and people. From what you're saying, it doesn't seem like you were in the IDF.

If you were indeed in the IDF, as you claim to fight Israel's wars, you could at least tell where exactly you served. Division, brigade, battalion etc.

Or at least something like center, north, or south.

Most foreign IDF servicemen are Jewish, so it just doesn't make sense to me that other than criticizing Israel (which is okay) you find it appropriate to bash Jews as a whole (which is not okay, and as if there wasn't enough evidence of anti-Israel people overwhelmingly being simultaneously anti-semitic).

So as long as you're sitting on your chair at home, thousands of kilometers away from Israel, I suggest you shut up and quit talking about fighting Israel's wars, because you clearly haven't fought for anything in your life, let alone picked up a rifle.

The IDF is for defense of Israel. Israel gets Americans to fight and die in their offensive wars of aggression.

I'm not following. Do Americans join the IDF?

Israel uses their influence over the US government to convince Americans to support Jewish wars. Usually the justification is for "freedom, democracy, etc etc." Or in the case of Iraq, "WMDs". Israel has no reason to fight their own wars when they can just sucker the United States into doing it for them.

Israel uses their influence over the US government to convince Americans to support Jewish wars.

It does so with literally every state. And every state that enters a war seeks international support. Without int'l support you lose.

Also, seriously? Jewish wars? I'm an atheist but I did my service in the IDF. There was nothing Jewish about these wars. And nothing Jewish about protecting my house, family, and countrymen.

Usually the justification is for "freedom, democracy, etc etc."

Never heard those. Israel always uses the same line "We have the right to defend ourselves, and will defend ourselves at all costs".

Or in the case of Iraq, "WMDs".

Okay which one are you referring to? The one in 1981 was actually about WMDs. But that wasn't a war. That was just a single airstrike against a French-built Iraqi nuclear reactor.

And the one in 2003 is completely unrelated to Israel.

Israel has no reason to fight their own wars when they can just sucker the United States into doing it for them.

Name one war during which the US deployed troops to aid Israel.

Idf is like our nation guard. Not a real fighting force, good for filling seats at posts though. I will admit some see action, but that is not there intent much like the idf.

Glad u feel good about what u did, at the end of the day that is all that matters.

Depends what you want to do. If you don't want to join the army and you just want to get on with these 3 years of service and move on as fast as possible to civilian life, or you're just a slacker, you'll get an office job. Or some other dirty work.

If you're motivated to do a significant service, you'll get action. I, for one, wanted a significant service so I went on a special army program that gave me prior high education and I proceeded to serve in the air force in high grade maintenance on F-16I warplanes as a practical engineer. An airplane can't take off without a maintenance crew's signature that it's in working order.

You don't need combat to see the action.

So it all depends on what you want to do in the army.

Because by your logic, there is not a single military in the world that is a "real fighting force", because without a wide support network, it all falls apart.

Wanna know how long a tank can drive without requiring maintenance? A day. Maybe a week if you're lucky. And if you don't have any specialized men who know all the work from top to bottom you can just throw the whole 6 million dollar thing into the trash because there's no way you can make it move.

The US hasn't taken any active role in the Israeli-related war since Israel's creation. And there is no war that might involve Israel that will be more significant than any of the wars that took place between 1948 and 1973. So I have my doubts about the US taking an active role now or in the future.

Prepare to be disappointed. But that wouldn't change your mind. You'll just find another excuse to blame the juice.

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What do you mean by "DELET THIS"? The OP should delete this post?

It's a meme, lurk moar

I lurk plenty, but don't keep up with memes. They're kind of a lazy way to feel involved.

Love these comments -- this sub is on point when it comes to identifying Zionist lies and their phoney wars.

But I do urge the people in this sub, use the word "Zionist" instead of Jew, that way you can avoid accusations of antisemitism, as that is one of their cleverly devised traps to shut down discourse.

Thanks for the hint.

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So you ARE an anti Semite and are just trying to hide it to spread your views to the unsuspecting. Got it

Case in point.

The beginning of wisdom is calling things by their true names.

Nobody cares about Judaism, the cancer is Zionism. So we need to call them Zionists. Mixing Zionism with Judaism (precisely what Zionists want) gives them the leverage they need for a "wtf racism" accusation, which is how they shut down debate.

It was a brilliant and devilish concoction that they invented to get away with their evil.

I think judaism is pretty funny with the geneology crap. That isn't zionism. That's pure eugenics.

I don't think that's what they meant. Zionists are the problem not Jews would have been a better clarification.

It's in the mainstream media of discussing these controversial topics that you have to be careful what you say or it will get a buzz word of "conspiracy theorist", "anti-semite", "white supremacy", and etc stamped on it to make the discussion null and void to the casual listener/viewer.

Jews in Israel are controlled by powerful elites and political figures just as much as the United States and other countries are. A lot of Israel's citizens see the corruption, the misuse of power, and they are against the Zionist regime.

This thread has been linked to by Zionists.

It, my sides! The irony! They know who I mean... Hello, "againsthatesubreddits" you fucking hypocrites.

I just don't agree with their actions or my own government's actions.

What do you mean exactly?

That was a remarkably poor way of wording it, if I give you the benefit of the doubt. I think (hope) what you meant is

"Zionists are the problem, not Jews, so use that word or you'll be labeled a racist".

What even is a Jew anymore? Truly it can only be loosely cultural, as their consistent migration and ethnic mingling could not possibly hold any dominant genetic traits present during Roman rule. German, Dutch, Polish, English, Russian etc are all considered white, yet a Jew is universally held to a differing ethnic standard.

Jews are Khazars. Khazars were a mix of Slavs and Turks who converted to Judaism, though they appear to have kept many of their old religion traits, such as human sacrifice.

D-dont mention i-israeli dual citizens manipulating our elections..its THOSE DAMN RUSKIES.

T. Shlomo zogsteinblatt

It all stems back to the Balfour declaration. You should read the letter he sent to the Rothschilds.

Remember when Trump said America first and no more wars? He really is a conman who loves to throw a bone to his supporters by claiming how magical his imaginary Wall will be.

Well there was a historical reason for the location.....

But Alaska was also floated as an ultimate option

Serving the country? You mean serving the bankers.

Its a long way to Iran - I believe they are still trying to figure out how to "solve" Syria and Lebanon. Its a more pressing issue for Israel and America.

If you should expect anything in near future you should expect America being pushed into Syria even deeper than it already is. Some escalation of violence will occur there as it seems.

America bombed Syrian army in Eastern Syria just the other day and it does not look good.

What even is a Jew anymore?

That's the root of the evil that has happened to Palestine...they are not really Jews. They are actually Zionists who use the Label "Jew" as cover and excuse to murder anyone who may threaten their miserable existence. They've infiltrated US government by way of AIPAC and have taken over US foreign policy...sending young American men and women to their deaths in the Middle East. Those who come back, peace of mind destroyed lie with PTSD for the rest of their lives.

The Israelis are the biggest cowards on the face of the earth...they bomb Palestinians, who are only armed with rocks, with their F-16's white phosphorous and 2000lb bombs...not one Zionist Jew will ever set foot in Syria or Iraq. Get ready for the false flag to be blamed on Iran...the peaceful country that makes Israelis piddle in their pants in fear. The neocons backed by Israel and its zionists will be frothing at the mouth for Americans to fight the biggest most deadly Middle Eastern war of all for cowardly Israel. Iranians and Americans will needlessly die as the Israelis party in Tel-Aviv.

as their consistent migration and ethnic mingling could not possibly hold any dominant genetic traits present during Roman rule.

read about it, you'll be fucking amazed.

TLDR-yes they did, big time.

You might be done with it but there's an endless stream of 19 year olds who need easy money and they will fight Israel's wars forever and your taxes are going to pay for it.

dat side note, pretty much sums up how dumb this all is.

i'm surprised they're

still waiting for their

messiah

all their dad god ever did

to them was to beat their ass

so now that is what they

do to everybody else..... ?

it's time for an intervention

Classics:

Israel Lobbyist - We Need a False Flag to Start War with Iran!

The name America is just a lie at this point, we ARE ISRAEL

Agree with you 100%. I vote we give the jews Idaho. I live in Idaho, and we have a definite shortage of jews. The education system and tax base could use infusion of jew. I haven't seen a synagogue for years. What we need is a carbon-dated document that proves the jews lived in Idaho 4000 years ago. Maybe God miraculously caused Abraham to whore it up with the natives or something. Unfortunately, they'd probably just ADD Idaho to their existing holdings, claim the entire USA as theirs, start building settlements up the street, and then shoot me. Best they stay with the other psychos in the middle east.

Which Israeli war have you fought in to date, faggot?

Are you one of those that prefers the side of American Jews like John Kerry? Because your comment implies you agree with his worldview - http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/24/report-john-kerry-contacted-palestinians-ordered-them-to-not-work-with-trump/

Are you one of those that prefers the side of American Jews like John Kerry? Because your comment implies you agree with his worldview - http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/24/report-john-kerry-contacted-palestinians-ordered-them-to-not-work-with-trump/

What about the low ranking pedo's? You really think it's only the high ranking one's that are the problem? Parents can approve the marriages of their daughters to adult men in Muslim countries? Does Israel still allow child marriages?

• https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

• http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28250471

Depends what their laws are....

Except those nation's with Islam literally in their official name.

Not commonly practiced in Israel in modern times.

i don't care about someones religion...i care about crimes against humanity funded by my tax dollars and those that profit off evil...and Nazi Israel is the starting QB on that team.

I disagree, because I'm not an anti-Semite or anti-Zionist etc.

Those wars were in American self-interest and were executed disastrously.

No you just want to send people to die for your kooky beliefs

no dude. deficient isn’t 1to1 on military spending

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