This sub sure loves some good fear porn.

This guy ^

They're so obvious.

I realized it. I also realize that I see this same exact thread posted almost every single day.

I keep being told the sky falling, yet it’s still there day after day. I’m not even denying shills are out, I’m just not into jumping on the doomsday band wagon.

Not talking about Russian interference is partisan crap.

Very clever PR team at work.

I don't think they're really clever at all. With enough resources you employ a few people with tons of sockpuppets and votebots. It really isn't that difficult to pull off.

I've caught vote rings on my subs. Maybe 4-7 people with an alt each could game most new queues. Voting and flooding and shitting in the comments is quite effective unless you have a good mod team not afraid to tighten the clamps.

I'll agree with that.

It isn't that it was all that clever. They weren't fooling any of us. We've chatted to no end about the tactics. It was the shear mass of it.

I'll agree with that also.

Yea, it is a bit disappointing that the shills decided to take over this sub. Once, I used to actually have good discussions on r/politics, and the same thing happened there.

Oh well, I will still come here occasionally but really the best thing to do is continue moving on to other forums until those get taken over as well. Rinse and repeat.

but where? what other forums? I love y'all and want to stay fallowing the real ones from r/Conspirisy

im not going anywhere

Im taking a hiatus for a few months. I wish there was somewhere to go, but they will follow. If I don't like something I avoid it. If they don't like something they call all of their friends and attack it. Kinda the new mentality of the upcomming generations. They're all trying to change stuff they don't like instead of just avoiding it. Sometimes that's good, other times it's boarderline harrasment, but I won't stoop to their level.

Jesus said turn another cheak. I like Jesus. Maybe I'll take a few months to read the Bible and see what all that noise is about..

Maybe I'll take a few months to read the Bible and see what all that noise is about..

Should start with Ezekiel 1.

9Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

11Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies. 12And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.

https://imgur.com/a/hFmEB
http://i.imgur.com/BMSbvO0h.gif
http://i.imgur.com/jNk6TQGh.gif

Thank you. I'm very interested in the Old Testament. I'm starting to think we had a very advanced civilization before the massive flood 14,000 years ago or w/e.

I grew up in catholic school which pushed me far from organized religion, but the more I learn about pre-history as well as the Roman Empire, the more I want to learn the truths in the Bible. I forget who posted it, but it was a random comment in this sub talking about the Roman Empire never fell. Started taking me down a hell of a rabbit hole.

Me neither. They've been here before and we wore them out.

I dunno about everyone else, but I'm here to stay and I would miss the genuine users here immensely. So many great discussions and ideas were shared on this sub. Its a shame that powerful people decided that we shouldn't be allowed to discuss certain ideas (I think Pizzagate and Seth Rich primarily triggered this), and so they decided to unleash a shill infestation on this sub.

And I don't want those groups to win, so I will always come back here. We have no idea if/when their funding will run out, but you never know, it could happen somewhat soon. I'll be watching.

As for other forums, none are exactly the same as this one but there are some decent alternatives. I can PM you if you'd like but I'll bet you know of them.

pm' s always welcome.

Anyone who disagrees with my cult is a shill

From a guy that posts in TMoR. Talk about a cult.

Tmor a cult which exposes hipocricy as they see it, well sign me up

Maybe give us an example of something over there that isn't complete group-think. Show me an example of original thought. Show me an example of a dissenter not being chastised and downvoted to oblivion.

If subreddits were countries, you folks would be North Korea.

Yea, that's one of the shills' favorite lines. Maybe they have a bot script for it, I dunno.

Wow, this hasn't gotten old yet!

Just repeating the age old mantra, maybe the fifth time will do the charm

No, you're wasting space. You're not willfully ignorant.

Oh are my comments taking your precious space now? I will stop right away

Notice you don't address the "willful ignorance" part. :)

There is more than one reputation management firm in operation on reddit. We see the noise.

Eh, from my observation there is only one dominant one. They all have the same narrative that you can see all over Reddit.

It really is getting unbearable, tbh.

It's like when ants take over the sugar bowl.

Ants are a football team? What year were they in the Sugar Bowl?

I messaged the mods (again for the 20th time) about this bullshit and got back: there is no proof, deal with it. Fuck that noise.. If the mods aren't following their own rules why the fuck should we? Time to make my 67th Reddit account.

There is absolutely no reason to follow the rules on this site or this sub. I'm respectful to those who are respectful to me, and I'll have respectful discussions with those who disagree with me if they're capable of that. Otherwise, I will do and say what I want and a ban wont stop me.

Don't waste your time man. You're literally fighting cancer without a cure.

They will keep going until they completely kill the host. Then the parasite will destroy itself.

I've lost hope in this sub. We did our best. I've had my mind opened countless times here and will miss the good times and convos.

I truely believe this is the beginning of the end for people like us. I wouldn't waste your time trying to fight this battle when the battle is going to soon show its face IRL. Prepare yourself. I'm not much of a doomer, but I will tell you the market is about to turn any month now and when it does things will get really heated. Just look out for yourself and the people you love. This mentality of groupthink and mass-attacks on "justice" are going to make the bad worse. It's unavoidable at this point. All you can do is be aware and fend for yourself.

By end of summer our country will look like a completely different beast than it does today. Mark my words.

Don't waste your time man. You're literally fighting cancer without a cure.

They will keep going until they completely kill the host. Then the parasite will destroy itself.

I've lost hope in this sub. We did our best. I've had my mind opened countless times here and will miss the good times and convos.

I truely believe this is the beginning of the end for people like us. I wouldn't waste your time trying to fight this battle when the battle is going to soon show its face IRL. Prepare yourself. I'm not much of a doomer, but I will tell you the market is about to turn any month now and when it does things will get really heated. Just look out for yourself and the people you love. This mentality of groupthink and mass-attacks on "justice" are going to make the bad worse. It's unavoidable at this point. All you can do is be aware and fend for yourself.

By end of summer our country will look like a completely different beast than it does today. Mark my words.

Indeed, and the downvote brigades are blatant. I don't care about votes, but, that is how they bury topics/thoughts. Damn near every comment I make, always has a red "controversial" dagger next to it, including my original comment here... smh.

Thanks man, I truly appreciate hearing such things. I'll be here fighting until I no longer can be (I have scars to show this as well) :). Each time, I'm like...

I'd like to get u/Ambiguously_Ironic 's (or any mod for that matter) thoughts on these shills and their votes scripts?

Hey u/Ambiguously_Ironic, you got a handful of longtime users in this sub and they are pretty upset that the mods are failing to do anything about these shills and their vote scripts. Please do join the conversation and communicate with the actual members of this sub.

When are you guys going to listen to the community, y'all support?

It’s the most meta thing I’ve ever witnessed.

They’ve literally managed to co-opt the entire sub.

I knew when they made it a ban-able offense to call out shills that it would not end well.

This place is a pathetic shadow of it’s former self. I at least take heed in the fact that many people appear to be aware of the subterfuge.

The visitorship around here is dropping like a stone.

It’s obvious what they’ve done.

Yeah, they work they're asses off, but they're not convincing any of us.

Just laugh at them and remember online astroturfed comment sections aren't reflective of real opinions in this country.

But I do agree it's been taken over. There needs to be some kind of drastic action or these weasels will continue to multiply like fleas and make this sub their paid home.

"remember online astroturfed comment sections aren't reflective of real opinions in this country"

Thank goodness.

Its been this bad before and we just shit on them till they left.

I had high hopes for voat a couple years ago, but it sucks for different reasons.

I find that their extreme racism and anti-semitism has a sort of innoculation against shills and SJW-types. I dunno, I find the site entertaining.

It's also an innoculation against people with taste.

Sure, whatever.

Sad, isn't it? I knew this would happen when r/politics "banned" the Shareblue accounts. It wasn't a ban. It was a reassignment.

Perfectly explained.

It was practically overnight.

Yep.

"You don't know what you've got til it's gone"

They banned the site, how would they even go about banning the shills and their accounts?

They banned the site and the affiliated, paid accounts.

Do you think the people that were manning those accounts went to the unemployment line?

Reddit didn't ban them, only r/politics. Reddit welcomes paid shills with open arms. The "ban" was akin to an olive branch laced with anthrax.

So those same affiliated accounts should be easy to spot here then, right? I mean just look for people that posted Shareblue and related content in politics and stopped right when that ban happened?

Or, seeing as they can't actually ban someone, those shills just keep posting and commenting. Only difference is they can't link to Shareblue.

They are easy to spot, indeed.

Well now I'm convinced

Please link those accounts with proof of them working for shareblue.

That is against the rules of this sub.

Accusing others of being shills is also against the rules of this is but you didn't let that stop you.

I didn't accuse anyone. Admitting that there are shills here is not against the rules.

u/user_name13 is a notorious one.

What makes you say that?

Constant reposts from commondreams.

I'm trying to find info connecting Soros to CD but I am having trouble, can you help me with the connection?

Doesn't appear they were given a grant from this organization of his (link at bottom), and Googling things like "soros common dream" just brings me to articles on common dreams with soros in the title somewhere.

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/grants-database/

That article posted about the indictments is soul crushing. Those comments are the most inorganic things ive ever read. Sit back, work hard for yourself and lets watch it burn, together.

I made one of those posts. I'm not inorganic. :( I'm actually a nice person. And I don't get paid for being an insufferable lefty. I am a liberal.

Maybe you can tell us what conspiracy theories you are interested in, Gary.

What would you say...you do here, Gary?

That's the biggest thing I've noticed. I don't think they actually subscribe to any of the conspiracy theories that we consider a given..

9/11, mkultra, rouge agencies (drug, weapon, human trafficking), MSM propaganda, federal reserve etc..

again it's like a vegan hanging out in a butcher shop. Like ok, we get it - you don't subscribe to these concepts, fine. Leave. There are plenty of whole foods and farmers markets that sell organic blades of grass.

I'm an extreme liberal and I believe in all thoseconspiracies.

Good. Its not partisan. I consider myself a libertarian (I guess that means I'm conservative), but either you trust the government or you don't.

If you believe those conspiracies, you're more than welcome here. If someone thinks everything I listed is bullshit, great, but idk why that person would come here in the first place..

Im curious and interested in every topic you posted (why I liked this sub and this stuff). I think the majority of the things the other guy responded with is partisan bullshit that is the reason this sub and theories in general have gone downhill.

What about gmos, vaccines, sandy hook, pizzagate, seth rich, Satanism among the elites, cultural Marxism?

Only the second to last one and Im hugely into that because it's a very big deal, theres a lot of clues to it and its likely the reason for everything else.

3, 4 and 5 are Trump/Fox cuckoo theories and why this sub started going downhill.

Sandy hook and pizzagate were never started by trump or fox. Pizzagate was started from podesta's emails released by WikiLeaks, and sandy hook was started after researchers exposed anomalies with the shooting in 2012. while seth rich got started after Assange did that interview where he hinted that seth rich was his leaker. I don't see how a theory can be cuckoo if it was basically started by hints from Wikileaks (an agency that has exposed so much corruption)

WikiLeaks proved itself to be a corrupt partisan org only concerned with making Hillary look bad. They lost a ton of credibility with that and then kept it going with those aforementioned insane theories. That's what started this divide. This sub and this way of thinking is supposed to be the opposite of trusting one sole person/organization, but unfortunately a lot of people fell into automatically trusting Assange/wikileaks' word (and for many trumps word). That's the antithesis of this whole thing. He sucked you in and then once he had a specific personal agenda, you were willing to believe it as truth automatically. Bad critical thinker.

Moral debates are important. Morals matter and people's feelings matter. And so do these conspiracies. Being a liberal is great.

Exactly.

I'm interested in Antarctica and it's role in ww2, hollow earth, several child murders that lead me to PG, the mysticism behind the founding of the US, the grail, etc..

Now, the biggest conspiracy seems to be the effort to shut down conspiracy discussion.

Haha amen.

Antarctica is super interesting to me. It ties back to the pre-flood stuff. I'm starting to rabbit hole down.

To me it seems possible advanced ancient civilizations (14,000+ years ago) lived in Antarctica because it was highly habitable. Then the ice age hit, caused the flood and whipped out nearly every civilization on earth at the time.

If that would happen today, the only signs that humans existed 10,000+ years from now would be the great pyramids and mt Rushmore. Everything else would be gone. Who's to say that hasn't happened once or twice before? Who's to say we're the most advanced humans to walk on this earth?

Sorry4rant

For real!!!

I actually got to spend a year designing and managing the food procurement for McMurdo Station. I was going to go down to manage the food ops, but I ended up getting pregnant and my son would be due in the middle of winter.

Looking back, I should have gone.

Poor son would have been a cryobaby.

But the street cred..

Seriously. One cool dude!

snorts with laughter

He would definitely be cooler than Freddy Jackson sippin' a milkshake in a snowstorm though. Now he's just like "moms ruin everything"

We have to presume the previous civilizations never used fossil fuel anywhere along their development though - no way there's been enough time to restore the amounts used nowadays in so short a period.

Global banking fuckery. Wall Street fuckery. Political smears and astroturfing that goes on on reddit. How the modern right wing has turned to literal sedition and money laundering to win at all costs.

I also love to pick apart the bad arguments here, like I used to do before one of those astroturf groups too this place over in early 2016. Reminds me of the old reddit Ron Paul astroturfing.

right wing has turned to literal sedition and money laundering

And you somehow manage to believe that the "left wing" doesn't do the same or much worse? After all the reading and writing you've done? I've never seen an email from a "right-winger" that said they needed to make a "penance" to a Rothchild, if you speak of global banking.

Here read these right winger emails 😂

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html

Doesn't seem to be in bed with the Rothchilds at all from what I can tell.

No just clandestine operations with the Russians. No biggie right!?

I was talking about banking here.

Hmm...and how many of the uber rich are "ultra-lberal", if I may?

Global banking and wall street? Uhh yeah those aren't really conspiracies and are just mainstream knowledge. Do you believe in any conspiracies that contradict the mainstream media narrative?

you are falling for the left vs right meme. both sides are bad, they are getting us to fight amongst our selves.

Only one side wants to end net neutrality, ban abortions, keep Citizens United, take healthcare away from millions, give tax cuts to the rich...

How come no comment about the Rothchilds? Is that a "smear" too?

You believe in the wrong conspiracies reeee

Well, if you can tell me who is more responsible for global banking than the Rothschilds, I'm all ears.

No answer? Why are you in this sub?

To shill for the rothschild family obviously

Balfourthem

Welp, people are so stricken by the recent school shooting, but feel free to joke about people that are responsible for far, far more many deaths.

When did liberal become synonymous with hive mind?

It didn't used to be that way. I'm old enough to remember what a real liberal was.

Other stuff, too.

Anti-vax, anti-pharma, anti-chem, anti-tv, anti-MSM etc, was always a lefty sort of lean in my history- I'm 48.

Now those things mean I'm an alt-right Nazi or something.

Yep. Anything that goes against the mainstream narrative makes you a right wing extremist now.

I am a liberal ( not an American liberal) I am anti-corp, anti-pharma, anti-MSM. In what world does being those things make you a right-wing extremist? The same way as when you lot seem some dumb idiot on "liberals triggered" crying because they are offended by some trivial thing. That isn't a liberal it's just a cunt. As soon as you guys understand that thing might get easier.

The only conspiracies you guys seem to be interested are those pushed by MSM and IC propaganda.

This a new and disturbing phenomenon in this sub. And it makes your intentions very clear.

The only conspiracies you guys seem to be interested are those pushed by MSM and IC propaganda.

Im 48. After years of following conspiracy theories, you find about 5% ever pan out and then you watch younger people come along and pick those same theories up and you just can't do it again. And especially when you watch them weaponize those conspiracies and smear the opposite side.

That's where I push back.

I was/am interested in these conspiracies that you believe were "weaponized" for some reason. Sounds like people like you are the problem. You interpret some conspiracy theory as an attack on "your team," so you decide to "push back."

I was/am interested in these conspiracies that you believe were "weaponized" for some reason. Sounds like people like you are the problem. You interpret some conspiracy theory as an attack on "your team," so you decide to "push back."

When you get older and have seen the same bullshit conspiracy theories get dredged back up with ZERO facts or evidence, you know it's a smear. But maybe you're into that kinda thing so more power to you...

So I assume you think Pizzagate and Seth Rich conspiracy theories were a smear, for example?

Yes. Clearly.

Clearly.

lol.

Have you ever considered that your opinion is clouded by bias, and that those were organic conspiracy theories that people were actually interested in?

I was in the original Chan Pizzagate threads, you're going to have difficulty convincing me that it was "weaponized," whatever that means. I'm probably one of the people who you think "weaponized" it.

Have you ever considered that your opinion is clouded by bias, and that those were organic conspiracy theories that people were actually interested in?

Yes.

I was in the original Chan Pizzagate threads, you're going to have difficulty convincing me that it was "weaponized," whatever that means. I'm probably one of the people who you think "weaponized" it

I was at the marches against the Iraq war. Who cares man. No proof of anything has been found. Call me when anything real comes.

You seem a bit naive for someone your age. How exactly do you think we're going to get proof, when those who tasked with investigating this sort of thing are bought and paid for?

Who cares man.

Clearly you care, since you think these are "weaponized" conspiracy theories that you have to fight back against. Come on man, just be honest.

I also want to helo bring some of the young folks around here out of the 4chan/TD malaise. That stuff is putrid.

Sounds like you need to focus less on trying to control and manipulate others, and address your own misguided beliefs. From your posts, it sounds like you are pretty severe victim of propaganda.

Sounds like you need to focus less on trying

I'm fine but thanks.

Then you will just remain bitter and angry like I'm sure you are. You deserve it, though, with that attitude.

Then you will just remain bitter and angry like I'm sure you are. You deserve it, though, with that attitude.

Aw, that's not nice.

I'm truly very happy and all things aside, I hope you are flourishing. Seriously, I wish you nothing but the best. Take care.

If you are truly very happy, why are you on Reddit? I sure as hell wouldn't be.

What’s more nuts than this sub is conservatives thinking the fbi is out to get them. They are just doing their jobs. Like any American should. At this point you can’t deny Russian collusion and shouldn’t be bitching about this when the conspiracy theory is starting to come true.

At this point you can’t deny Russian collusion

lmao

Of course I can. The phrase "Russian collusion" doesn't even mean anything. Explain what you're talking about, you sound nuts.

How does one operate with this mindset? If proof is not a requirement for a belief, what is? Reason is rendered completely useless with such a weak standard of proof. You might as well unironically believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I don't "believe" them necessarily, I think of them in likelihood or probability. And there is enough circumstantial evidence to think that there is a pretty high probability that there is something to those conspiracy theories.

Belief doesn't do it justice, is faith a better term for your proof less views? How does it feel to let your political views be founded on hunches or "likelihood and probability" that anyone literate with half a brain has been laughing at since the 15th century? You know that there are countless conspiracy theories that do have proof? There are so many good reasons to hate Hillary, believing something like pizzagate or one of many documented Russian troll accounts just makes you arrive at an otherwise justifiable conclusion via getting cucked by soviet propaganda techniques we, once again, have proof of and have known about for years. I legitimately pity you. What will your cucked ass get tricked into next? Let me know because I'd love to laugh in your face. I know the world to be much much worse than news that requires proof let's on, but I also accept that if a conspiracy theory exists that lacks proof or reason that it is not only useless, but politically disempowering to subscribe to. There are countless effective ways to change the world, most of them require a shitton of money, but literally making up theories about a child sexual abuse ring is one that in the end, gets you extremely cucked.

After the first sentence it became obvious you weren't able to understand my previous comment, so there's no point in discussing this with you.

You should really read that, I know I'm being arrogant but god damn is it sad you walk through life thinking like this. You can keep the same basic conclusions, you should just go about it in a way that somewhat respects you as a rational being. You need to accept the fact that you got cucked.

lol bro, I'm smarter than you. Did you graduate from a top 10 law school? You're just lashing out because you're bitter. If you respond again with the same kind of hivemind comment, I'm just blocking you.

You straight up admit to abandoning the need for evidence. How is anyone supposed to believe you went to law school? That is pretty funny my dude. I'll let up now but may I try one last time to appeal to reason...

Do you know what empiricism means? Why have you abandoned it in your politics? Without reason, without proof, how does one know anything at all? Why do you put your faith in such an absurdly uneducated shill like trump? That asshole says that his favorite book is the Bible and then pronounces Second Corinthians "two corinthians." He does not read. Instead he unironically watches hours of CABLE FUCKING NEWS as he sips on one of his many diet cokes for the day. You two are perfect for each other! But it's never to late to apply those Ivy League critical thinking skill and start requiring more proof than absurd interpretations of Clinton emails that truly rival mystical numerology in outrageousness.

You don't realize it, but your beliefs are obviously just the product of propaganda. When it comes to the Hivemind, you guys all just sound the same. You're just making random statements that don't make any sense in the context of our conversation.

I get it. Hurr durr fuck Trump, anyone who approves of what he has done so far as President can't think. Honestly, you might as well just be a bot, regurgitating the propaganda you've been spoon fed.

He doesn't care, but yet he's happy to spend an inordinate time doing it. WOW

I’m a few years shy of you, what conspiracies do you feel have been dredged back up and weaponized? I’ve been at this a long time as well, and I’m not seeing it the same I guess.

Conspiracies get dredged back up and weaponized BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE.

Seth Rich was clearly a smear, just like it was clearly a robbery.

Pizzagate has no evidence, but funny how the information about it tends to disappear. Especially references to the Masons. I mean, there's even "pizzagateresearcher" on here, who does nothing but talk down that specific conspiracy. Now why is that? Is it *big-hearted" guys like him and garyp714 are looking out for the greater good? Why do the upvote/downvote parade then?

especially when you watch them weaponize those conspiracies and smear the opposite side.

Lol you just described what Hillary Clinton has done to both Bernie and Trump. One day you guys will realize who orchestrated this shit show.

You think she smeared those guys? What were the smears?

Fusion GPS scandal.

That makes sense. Do you believe any of the dossier is real? I think for a smear to be effective there has to be some truth.

Do you believe any part of the Russia scandal (like the indictments today) is real?

Yes I believe that foreign governments were meddling in our election.

I can see that they supported Trump when they and everyone else thought he was a joke, I can also see that llike everyone else once Trump started winning they started attacking him.

It's disturbing that a foreign government would use online trolls to twist information and ferment confusion, thank god that there aren't Americans doing that same thing to fellow Americans or we might have to correct the record.

It's disturbing that a foreign government would use online trolls to twist information and ferment confusion,

I worry most about my baby boomer elders. They buy anything on the internet hook line and sinker.

thank god that there aren't Americans doing that same thing to fellow Americans or we might have to correct the record.

Was that really necessary? Am I CTR now? That's the kind of stuff that I could do without from Trump supporters. I'm not a fucking shill.

I didn't call you a shill or imply it.

I was pointing out the hilarity of liberals freaking out about Russians doing the exact same thing CTR does.

Lordy, climb off your high horse man. The right wing 4chan/TD folks have made an art of online fuckery.

Isn't the issue people getting paid for it? Online fuckery is free speech.

All lefties are shills. All righties are kek. Got it.

Not all lefties, you certainly fit the ticket with comments like this however.

You really need to fuck off with trying to put words in my mouth. No doubt the vote police will show up soon and flip our vote counts.

As a foreign lurker, I liked the start of your conversation. 2 opposed Americans debating politely. Didn't last long.
I hope you find a way.

Nice. I was being polite but now I'm at fault for this other guy being a dick to me. Got it. Have a great night man.

I'm with you on this one.

LOL...you picked the wrong dude to side with then. Garyp said "Lordy, climb off your high horse man" to effectively end the conversation, about something that was not said from a superior position.

I disagree here. The boomers see what this country has been through and they see the lies. They are much more aware than many believe. I know on social media, it tends to look opposite, but IRL they are very in tune to the fuckery.

So your not into conspiracies anymore since in your estimate only 5% pan out. Therefore your only purpose in this sub is to push back against those on the "opposite side"?

Im more of a skeptic now and like to challenge poor logic and fallacies.

First it was the trumpets, then the teens, and now it's the apologists begging for more invasive programs.

lol

So many people already in this thread that constantly complain about Shareblue but don't seem remotely bothered by Russian shills being indicted.

It's expected to be done by a foreign government, what is not expected is for our own government to propagandized and subvert, the populace. That is the difference. From 1948 until 2012/13, this was against the law.

Thanks for the kind words, fellow truth seeker :)

!redditgarlic Weareone2

This turned out to be an excellent thread. Well done!

I don't think that guy really cares about anything that doesn't suit his narrative.

Me either, and it's blatantly obvious...

If you actually read the indictment the Russians ran Pro-Clinton ads, supported BLM, and funded "resistance" rally's against Trump after he won.

Following your own logic you should be concerned about being manipulated by the Russians, No?

If you actually read

That's what makes 80% of them so easy to spot too. You bring up proven facts, and they run or bombard you with 20 questions that have no relevance to your op.

I'm super interested. I can't wait to hear what they have to say.

i know how to fix it. bring back flytape, sarahconnor, lightbringerflex and 911bodysnatchers.

Conservatives take over r/conspiracy to prove Hillary committed crimes. Do so under the guise of supporting law and order and proving that they know right from wrong better than others do.

When presented with a conspiracy that goes against what they fought for the past 2 years, they fight back to preserve the status quo of attacking Hillary and protecting Trump.

This sub was ruined the moment r/the_donald flooded over here. It'll never be the same because those people took over and refuse to acknowledge anything that goes against their narrative.

That's what's REALLY happening here.

Go home. You're drunk.

Great counter-argument.

Bullshit. What happened is that r/politics was co-opted and you couldn't have a reasonable discussion there. Folks found their way here because they could speak freely.

Then, r/politics wasn't happy with just dominating that sub, they had to make certain that every sub had the same mindset, shills and bot-think.

You are arguing with dude who shitposts propaganda to r/politics, r/news and r/enoughtrumpspam.. I've seen many similarities between this kind of behavior and the behavior of shills

I feel honored that you went back 200+ days to find posts that I made to prove...?

What exactly? I shitpost propaganda? Let me look at your link. Things from PBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc.

So this is the propaganda you are talking about? You people are so transparent. It's insane how low this sub has fallen after the takeover.

awww more projection how cute.. Don't get so butt hurt brah, it's only the internet.

Strangely enough I never received your page.

I shitpost propaganda? Let me look at your link of my posts. Things from PBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc.

Yes these are all propaganda. Go back to normal reddit. This is /r/conspiracy. We come here to get away from people like you.

Pretty sure r/flyvaper invited all the_tronald morons here one day after the sub went silent

I remember that day. I'm pretty sure u/flytape would've invited any conspiracy theorist from any sub that was shut down.

Don't get me wrong, Fly and I have our differences, but we align where it counts.

I actually warned them as a group not to start breaking our rules (which most TD memes do) or I would ban them. But I wouldn't expect truth out of anyone who uses TMOR nicknames for me like /u/flyvaper.

r/politics was the stomping grounds for people like you when it was being heavily brigaded by conservatives and (what is now being proven, Russian shill bots) sowing the seeds division with their anti-Hillary 24/7 posts. That place was hardcore anti-Hillary for a while.

You know it's true too if you were around there then. I know I was. Just ask /u/ShillScripsRUseless. That guy's busy going through my post history, he will confirm it.

People like me? And now I'm a conservative? Wut??

Learn some nuance, guy.

Bullshit.

It totally happened and I watched it. TD took this fucking place over and several of the right wing mods applauded it.

Could you folks just be honest? It happened. It happens all over reddit. Just admit and move forward.

Can you be honest? You don't respond to anything intelligent, just fling more crap and get TOTALLY REAL upvotes. How do you do it?

Russia is a conspiracy with no evidence at all and the 17 indictments are jokes.

However, Seth Rich was murdered by Hillary Clinton personally with a knife to his heart while she sucked out his soul. I know this because Sean Hannity has promised me evidence of it. Ignore that it was never released and his own investigator says Fox lied. Also, I know this is true because Julian Assange has implied it is true. Surely Wikileaks, which we all know has denied involvement with Trump is credible and unbiased. Please ignore them asking for political favors from the Trumps and apparently being in common communication secretly with Sean Hannity.

These shootings are fake as fuck false flags by the way. I know because Alex Jones, the man who called his show an act under oath, tells me.

Also, and I want to be very clear about this. HRC is the queen pizza pedo. This is a matter very near and dear to my heart sir. Please do not mention that the prosecutor who game Jeffrey Epstein the plea deal that this sub thinks is dirty, is Trump's buddy. (this guy, http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-jeffrey-epstien-alexander-acosta-sex-abuse-case-20170321-story.html). I'm only here to examine people I don't like good sir.

Podesta is evil by the way I feel it in my bones and he worked with Hilary as a campaign manager! Who could let this go? What, Paul Manafort has been a criminal conspirator working with Russia to influence foreign elections and commit crimes in countries like Ukraine and we have proof of the secret payments? And he offered a Russian Oligarch private briefings on the Trump campaign? Nothingburger you fools.

Lets talk instead about the biased Mueller investigation that hates conservatives. Started by life long Republican Comey, replace and now run by Republic Wray, with their toadie liberal bosses in the DOJ Jeff Sessions and Rosentstein also republicans, who had the gaul to hire Mueller that other republican schill! BIASED I TELL YOU! How can we trust these hit jobbers?

Remember that time the FBI had a secret society for a day before the Senator pretending the claim walked back on it? That was a good day. I was vindicated then.

Finally, reeeee sir. reeeee.

remember when Mueller seemed strangely uninterested in prosecuting the international criminal conspiracy of BCCI, which one would think someone like you'd know since even the those other brave truth-tellers but fellow unfortunate amnesiacs like the NYT and John Kerry criticized it?

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/25/opinion/essay-bcci-justice-delayed.html

A wonderful defense of the above. An article from 1991 making an unrelated allegation about Mueller that never generated additional evidence as far as I can tell. You know what though, it seems unlikely but maybe something shady did go on in that situation I wouldn't know. I can admit to a lack of certainty. What's your point?

why would I or anyone here to actually talk about conspiracies and the fact that the oligarchs own both parties want to "defend" your pile of idiotic logical fallacies?

I mean... you just kind of did? It's not like I responded to you/know who you are. Perhaps you're not one of them people I'm referring to though you seem kind of angry for that...

But .... but ... Lizzard people?

Why are you here?

I enjoy rational discussion about plausible conspiracies and irrational discussion about funny/interesting conspiracies. As you may be able to tell I've become a bit fed up with irrational agenda pushing masquerading as evidence based discussion.

THIS. This is exactly what happened. ‘twas the downfall of this sub. Thank you so much you beautiful being for saying this. I am not a trump or Hillary supporter. However all the trump supporters came here and soiled this once beautiful solitude of intelligent, free thinkers trying to figure out the wrong doings in the world.

Let's not forget Reddit is corporate and no longer a fringe forum. With that comes censorship and conformity. Imo, we lost Reddit once what's his face went on Jimmy Kimmel.

Not sure when that was. My perspective is what we've seen is the Ellen Pao monetization plan. Too many changes in terms of censorship hit all at once during the political season. I suspect special VIP tools or consulting sessions were provided to political campaigns and key reputation management firms leading into 2016, and the full scope of what she did became realized after Pao's outing and Spez stepped back in (co-opting her platform but maybe not being quite so aggressive about expansion).

Imo, we lost Reddit once what's his face went on Jimmy Kimmel.

'It's hopeless, utterly utterly hopeless'.

Get a grip. We can still use this place to communicate with others about ideas we deem worthwhile.

The negative nancies on this sub are the real problem.

I actually think the commies, nwo, banking system globalist rulers are going to win in the end and we will be e Bolshevism again with gulags, every censored, and super hive mind PC group think where you get killed if you think wrong.

I can see where you're coming from, but think we still have a fighting chance.

I mean, I will never stop fighting in my lifetime, but some days you wonder if the things that happen were supposed to, considering no one stopped them. But then you wonder if apathy prevents people from change as well, so you're sort of stuck in this closed thought experiment if that makes sense.

I think like year 4000-6000 we will be Utopian

Grip is firm. I never said anything about the situation being hopeless, I just said we lost what it once was. Once relatively arcane groups, knowledge or practices become mainstream they become diluted. Just how things go. We can still communicate and the earnest ones will recognize each other despite interruption from interlocutors. Or we can start another Reddit, I guess.

Or we can drop the victim mentality and stop complaining about things we can't/won't change.

What's the matter, you guys hate shills so so much, surely some of them getting indited should be like christmas for you.

Wrong side?

This sub was run by a cult. Now that they are being exposed he is disappointed.

A cult of people exchanging ideas that are outside of the cult that is the spoonfed narrative?

Call it what you want, but sign me up.

let us know when the hasbara and other shills get indicted, and what "side" that is

the hasbara and other shills get indicted, and what "side" that is

hasbara should be easy to spot...they are always on the pro-Israel, anti-free speech, pro-gun-control "side"...and their responses are predictably robotic because they are following a scripted manual

the majority of all varieties of shills are easy to spot tbh - the only confusion is whether they are literal paid shills/trolls or are just that mushbrained because of mass media and public "education"

mushbrained because of mass media and public "education"

I'm still waiting on the research that shows "brain cell deaths per hour" of television exposure. I wonder if it will be measured in "half-life" the same way as radioactive materials...X hours and half of your brain is no longer functional.

that mushbrained because of mass media and public "education"

There's a friend of a friend I used to see arguing on fb, before I cancelled it. He braged about getting all of his info from r/ politics. It's almost maddening that people can be so ignorant.

They were shilling for both sides.

Look at the indictment. They organized and funded Trump "resistance" marches even after he was elected.

Never give up, never surrender!

Though I do feel I'm overdosing on quixotic as of late.

Don't take its super personally or overly seriously.

Some of the best work we can do is just shitting on and laughing at them.

Precisely why I bounce around to the extent I do. Gotta keep the discussion open and the info flowing free. I may disagree with someone, but as long as their opinion is based in reality, and overall genuine in nature, I'll hear them out. I've been wrong plenty of times before, it'll likely happen again.

Nice attitude! Although after reading through some of today's threads, I'm gonna take the night off from trying to "correct the record". This thread was a nice reminder that there are still people here who get what's really going on. They've got a good strategy for folks not aware of the propaganda war, but those of us who are aware see right through it.

Nah, not really. A brigaded thread now and then does not a lost sub make. That the brigade has to exist to begin with, and is so obvious, sort of goes to show that.

And even if/when they do crack it, if the admins intervene or axo finally just gives up, it's only a sub. There will be another sub, or another site, conversations will continue. Costs nothing, just a hassle, it's happened to anyone who remembers the internet before reddit.

The point is not to hold on at all cost, it's to give nothing away for free. The more effort they have to put into it, the more people see it and take exception to it, and become immune to it.

The Russia thing is just a big nothing burger.

In the words of CNN reporter, no less.

R/politics 2.0

Why did the mods nothing against it.

I go back to 4chan .

u/FlyTape tried, and they called it an attempted “hostile takeover” and banned him for it.

Didn't he kick everyone else off of the mod team lol, how is that not a takeover

He was countering the takeover already in progress. Which was successful, and exactly what this thread is talking about.

The mods (at least u/Ambiguously_Ironic) said they have no proof of such shills and their vote brigades... "No Proof" /s 😉

Once the parasite kills the host they will be looking for another job. I'm surprised they don't care about job security. They'd rather be on the right side of today and the wrong side of history.

The indictments are nothing... That is all they have?

No, the best is yet to come. There is much more going on in the background.

Yep.

Good always triumphs over evil.

It may might win more often... but it most definitely does not always win.

Do you know what the connections are? People have been looking.

I am pretty sure that Trump is not a Freemason or NWO globalist.

It’s like someone brought in a bag of fleas. You kill one, 20 more hatch.

It's working, it's working

I'm in the dark. Hopefully, that doesn't mean I'm the problem. Is there something specific that everyone seems to know about but me? Or is this about the flood of new users posting in the sub?

This is the only conspiracy forum that pushes the "Trump is a Russian agent" narrative. This sub gets worse and worse. Compare this sub to godlikeproductions and you will see what a real conspiracy forum looks like.

Nahhh, this is lovely. They caught trolls and made up FISA warrants while ignoring a school child murderer.

Newsweek has an article about Q.

It's all good.

Start something better thats more difficult to brigade.

"Those comments are the most inorganic tings ive ever read." Can you give examples of what inorganic comments are?

It was not mine

Found the Russian

Everyone who is interested in conspiracies should not look to a "we" or an "our" in the first place. Think for yourself.
And try to have some fun. If you really think you can accomplish anything by posting comments on a website you are completely delusional.

When you're looking for interesting conspiracy theories, search new.

When you're looking for an argument, search controversial.

When you're looking for a laugh, search hot.

This sounds like it should be in the FAQ. Thank you for the tip.

Best advice I've seen on here, ever.

No shit I JUST changed to Controversial and here I am, commenting on this fucking post.

Wanna fight about it?

Will that earn me karma? Asking for a friend.

sounds good

New is definitely the place to go if you’re looking for that old feeling of browsing this sub where everything is crazy and genuinely interesting.

The good stuff. Yes I agree. That's the kind of stuff I think is interesting, too. Sorry about the way I wrote that. I misunderstood your post.

This post has 4 points 51% upvotes with 200+ comments. Something fishy is going on.

TopMinds is raiding again. Mods over there haven't figured out what NP domain is yet, fucking amateurs.

Yeah, maybe not deliberately.. One of them links a thread or quotes user they don't like, then they get their panties in a twist. Next thing you know they forget their golden rule and go batshit with the blue arrow. Their only weapon. It's funny, I got an angry PM from one of their more prominent mods about this last comment. It sure seemed to get under his skin.

Its unbelievable, following the route of r/politics.

You should be in the politics sub where you belong. No conspiracy here.

You aren't wrong. The sub has been compromised.

You might like our sub: r/conspiracyundone. We ban inorganic users and speak out against the NWO.

It's expected to be done by a foreign government, what is not expected is for our own government to propagandized and subvert, the populace. That is the difference. From 1948 until 2012/13, this was against the law.

If you actually read the indictment the Russians ran Pro-Clinton ads, supported BLM, and funded "resistance" rally's against Trump after he won.

Following your own logic you should be concerned about being manipulated by the Russians, No?

Notice you don't address the "willful ignorance" part. :)

awww more projection how cute.. Don't get so butt hurt brah, it's only the internet.

I shitpost propaganda? Let me look at your link of my posts. Things from PBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc.

Yes these are all propaganda. Go back to normal reddit. This is /r/conspiracy. We come here to get away from people like you.

I'm super interested. I can't wait to hear what they have to say.

They are easy to spot, indeed.

I also want to helo bring some of the young folks around here out of the 4chan/TD malaise. That stuff is putrid.

u/user_name13 is a notorious one.

What’s more nuts than this sub is conservatives thinking the fbi is out to get them. They are just doing their jobs. Like any American should. At this point you can’t deny Russian collusion and shouldn’t be bitching about this when the conspiracy theory is starting to come true.

How does one operate with this mindset? If proof is not a requirement for a belief, what is? Reason is rendered completely useless with such a weak standard of proof. You might as well unironically believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

If you are truly very happy, why are you on Reddit? I sure as hell wouldn't be.

He doesn't care, but yet he's happy to spend an inordinate time doing it. WOW

Accusing others of being shills is also against the rules of this is but you didn't let that stop you.