What do you mean "don't fuck with russia"? We're fucking american, you dumb cunt. We will fuck with whoever the hell we want.

Because they will absorb us like Japan is with their weeb shit and our country will fall further into socialism. Russia has had a history of fueling terrorists in the middle east and being commie scum. So get the fuck out of here with your "don't fuck with russia" BS. Maggot.

BITCH, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

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Lol, no one needs to go to war with Russia. Russia is a shit hole that is only relevant because they have nukes. Their economy is a dumpster fire that isn't getting any better thanks to falling oil prices. Just sanction them and they'll fall apart like the USSR. Then a few people can sell off all the government property and get rich enough to become the new ruling class, continuing the endless cycle of unbridled fuckery that is Russian history.

Putin’s built shelter underground enough to fit 40 million people: do you see our government doing that?

Nope. As shamelessly corrupt as they are, they haven't managed to waste such huge amounts of time and resources with anything quite that retarded. But give it a few months and we'll see how the border wall turns out.

You need to do some more reading on things like russian military and nuke doctrines and nuke tensions towards the USA to get an understanding of why Russia isnt so peaceful.Both USA and Russia have loaded guns pointed at each other with hair trigger first-strike mentalities.

We have wasted trillions

Man it's really frustrating reading all the responses to you here. I have a hard time believing organic users of r/conspiracy are so xenophobic and war hungry. We have the nerve to criticize Russia when we break our promises on NATO expansion and surround them with weapons. While we occupy 1000 based around the world that we even know of. While we spend 10x the amount they do on military. While we crushed any and all attempts from post USSR Russia to reduce the nuclear weapons threat. Russia isn't the threat too world peace. We are. Everyone outside the US knows it. And guess what? I don't want to see a Russian human bombed or hurt the same way I don't want to see a North Korean bombed or hurt. Russia's problem right now is they've got our number. They know we value MIC profits over peace and the war on terror just ain't selling like it used to. They badly want cold war 2, but they're playing with literal nuclear fire. Whatever happened to the anti war movement in this country? And how the fuck do people still trust ore intelligence agencies when it comes to anything? Sorry for the rant OP - I just get weirded out by the voting patterns and comments you're getting for factual level-headed statements in favor of not ramping up our rhetoric with Russia.

Their economy is a dumpster fire that isn't getting any better thanks to falling oil prices.

Only because of the ruling class. Russia could easily have a median household income of $35,000-40,000 if they let the people get the most out of their government/resources.

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Bullshit right wing pro Trump propaganda 💩💩💩

The Most I've seen the media/liberals advocate for is continued sanctions on Russia, not full out war. I haven't seen anybody, especially the media call for that

The media is more interested in starting wars in the middle East, where you can get continued coverage and ratings without the threat of nuclear war (usually)

Yeah Russia seemed really concerned about world peace when they were rolling tanks into Ukraine.

If Delaware votes to join Russia can we expect Russia to roll in and start heading out rocket launchers to shoot down civilian airplanes?

I think his point was that they may've invaded Crimea, but look how many countries we've invaded, help to invade, overthrown gov'ts or just plain droned back into the stone age. Russia sucks but so do we. Crimea is hugely important for Russia's sovereign safety. The countries we invaded are hugely important for the profits of war mongers, oil companies, and banks.

Whataboutism

Made up word to keep Americans feeling righteous and superior.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it any less real bud.

Oh I understand it's a deflection.

Really? Please explain how two wrongs make a right.

glass houses man.

People in glass houses shouldn't live in glass houses. It's not okay for Russia to influence elections, because it's not okay for anyone to influence elections, including the US. The US' actions around the Cold War do not excuse Russia's doing the same.

Yours is the same moral code that says "but that guy in front of me was speeding too, why should I get a ticket?"

no mine is the moral code where i work on my own shit before i start griping about others. the point of that parable is not to throw rocks...

reductio whataboutism is the defense of the cognitively dissonant.

Look I’m not defending Russia!

You most certainly are. Completely, 100%.

They literally voted to join Russia and Ukraine refused... that’s why they invaded.

They invaded before they voted lol.

Quit with that bullshit Western propaganda. Russia never "rolled tanks" into Ukraine, nor did they invade or anything like that. Ukraine voted in referendum to rejoin (yes, rejoin - ie. they were once a part of Russia and ethnic Russians make up the majority in Crimea).

In 2001, there was 60% ethnic Russians compared to 24% ethnic Ukranians..

They voted, because of what was going on in the Ukrainian government, and what was going on in greater Ukraine (ie. the rise of extreme Ukrainian Nationalism). In which, groups such as Svoboda, Azov Battalion, and others were actively persecuting ethnic Russians. People such as this, this, and this, for an example. That's why they voted to rejoin Russia. Not because big bad Russia invaded them. They choose it, as is their right.

Stop drinking the Western propaganda kool-aid, and actually educate yourself...

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russia went by invitation of the crimean people, who are mostly ethic russians, not ethinic ukrainians as is the case with the rest of ukraine.

after the meydan coup that we backed and financed, crimea, out of faurly legitimate fear, held a referendum to secede from ukraine, which passed. no territory has been taken beyond crimea, nor threatened.

ethnic ukraines do not like ethnic russians. the neo-nazi ukrainian group that victoria nuland gave millions to on our behalf liked to go on about how there should be no ethnic russians in ukraine. full stop. right before the coup, a law declaring russian the 2nd official language of ukraine passed. the nazi's go bat shit. the coup succeeds. repeal of the law is the very first thing they do. an-anti meydan rally is held, those same meydan neo-nazi's went there, chased them into the closest building, set it on fire and burned them to death.

might want to be less pithy about whom you villify.

If Russia truly heroically liberated Crimea like you're saying, then why were they so secretive about it? Russia told the world for a long time that they had nothing to do with it.

Maybe they should stop fucking with us and the rest of the world then.

They haven't mentioned it. Let me know when they do.

Um, you were saying?

Yeltsin should have gotten in trouble for that no?

I wasn't afraid of Russia at all under Obama or Bush. Were you? Anyone who likes Trump is gonna love Russia because they helped him win. That's fine. But the majority of the country isn't cool with that. Especially when he has our leader by the balls.

Yeltsin was a drunk who literally whored Russia out to the highest Western bidder, by design. That's why the West (mainly the US) "attacked their Democracy", and got him in (like the countless other times in which the US overthrew or fucked with other countries). To further rape Russia, after the brutal rape, that was Communism via the USSR.

...and yes, Yeltsin did "get in trouble". He was basically ousted by Putin, after which, Putin turned the country around and kicked out the Western rapists out. Which is why he is so well liked/respected in Russia, contrary to what Western propaganda tells you.

Cool well maybe we should oust Trump like they did then. And kick out all the Russian rapists.

Is that really your response to what I said? Damn, your username sure is fitting...

You're using a Yeltsin comparison and saying it's bad. So clearly you're upset Russia helped Trump get elected.

So clearly you're upset Russia helped Trump get elected.

There is no evidence for that, however, there is ample evidence for the US directly responsible for getting Yeltsin in. Are you even being serious right now (or ever, when you constantly spew bullshit here)?

Lol. That's good man. Too bad I saw you comment early saying "so what" about the meddling in our election. Everybody knows they did. Including you. You just don't care.

Too bad I saw you comment early saying "so what" about the meddling in our election.

Which comment?

The post about one of the Russian trolls who got indicted who the_donald was a huge fan of. You said "Who gives a shit." Here we have a foreign government troll pushing their propaganda on us and you don't care.

No, no... What I said was: who gives a shit that T_D "praised" them. Damn, your reading comprehension is really that abysmal, huh? Welp, doesn't surprise me. You've yet, once again, shown how usernames can be so fitting ;)

That was an example of them meddling dude. Pushing bullshit online and tricking thousands of gullible people. Anyway, you thought what happened with Yeltsin was awful. So the only reason you don't think this is awful is because you are quite happy with the outcome. If Pakistan or some other adversary helped Hillary get elected you would absolutely hate them. But you're a conservative from Alaska with a Russian ancestry so you don't really care about this stuff. That's cool. The majority of the country does though.

You're so full of shit, dude. Have a lovely night.

Word. Except all those things are true because you've said all that to me before. Have a good one bud.

Except all those things are true because you've said all that to me before

Lies, but, that's all you do here. G'nite :)

Nah. Sorry champ. Have a good one.

Yes, now... run along. You've REEEE'd a bit too much here. You must be tuckered out. Sleep tight :*

Oh I'm good thanks. Cute response bud.

:)

They don’t know their history and they don’t care about the human race.

Well the last president that lost the popular vote turned out to be one of the worst presidents of all time, and Donny J ain't doing better than W. at this point in time.

Honestly, Russia would be better off if Gennady Zyuganov won in 1996. /u/Putin_loves_cats, I knew there was more we agreed on than disagreed on.

We got a tough guy over here. Front lines for you!

And Russia sure got in the way of the regime change war in Syria, huh? Hmmm. Wonder if that's one of the reasons they're so pissed at them and want to start shit..

Okay? Don’t fuck with America

No matter hoow much you've come to hate America, and there are a lot of things to hate her for but, when she's attacked you have to defend your country. That's all we have and besides that, rip her a new one.

Good!

So as it turns out, Russia is pissing in our collective face with election fuckery and is going to do it again come this summer so what the hell do you do about it? Deny it's happening? No, you come together and say fuck off.

you really think that cartoon of bernie in a speedo was that effective?

I love America. I hate the legacy media. I won't be saying how high when they tell me to fucking jump.

I love America.

I know you do. We have that. Cheers

Stop. Think. Who are you protecting? The American people or it's leaders and corporate interest? You're protecting the later until you see foreign troops storming our beaches.

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering

Yup. There it is in a nutshell.

Dude how did you get down voted for dropping such a huge truth bomb. I mean... You know it's really good shit when you can agree that hard with someone you hate that much.

Dude how did you get down voted for dropping such a huge truth bomb. I mean... You know it's really good shit when you can agree that hard with someone you hate that much.

wow, you just triggered my PTSD left over from the 1983 love it or leave it bullshit i endured growing up in the 1980s.

i'm old. no war for me. plus i already played this russia's gonna get us game the first time around, but maybe you can be right on the front line, are you in the services? if not, why not and when do you plan to sign up? the country was attacked, right? we have to defend our country, right?

you're no neville longbottom. you're just another crabbe or goyle. bleh.

How many fucking countries have we Actually attacked in the past 20 years?

For everyone who's head this went over, lots, we've attacked lots.

Draft beer, not people.

Beer shits are the worst.

Have a Vindaloo and get back to me.

Shit beer is the worst.

This investigation has not been able to come up with anything concrete, it’s been a year..

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Anybody got Putin’s thoughts?

I think he wants to prevent ISIS/Al-Qaeda/Al-Nusra from gaining traction in Central Asia. Zbigniew Brzezinski may be dead, but his plan is still in action. Donald Rumsfeld may no longer be in power, but his plan is still in action...

Relations with Russia are better than they’ve been in 10 years..

Hmmmm, I wonder why? Probably has nothing to with the money laundering, limiting/eliminating sanctions, softening US support for Ukraine, providing dirt on Trump's political opponents.

Yep, nothing to see here. /s

Who are you quoting there? I never said that.

Both the US and Russian governments know that they can never have an actual all out war with each other. The important thing is that US and Russian citizens don't know that.. Because as long as that is the case both governments can use that fear to manipulate each others people. Like for instance, if one nation wanted to help their buddy Israel, and also some of it's own very wealthy citizens gain access to a rich Syrian oilfield by illegally invading and overthrowing a sovereign government, but can't.. because the other nation is good friends with that sovereign government.. Well that nation could just spout off a bunch of bullshit about hacked elections and totally real gas attacks to convince it's citizens not get pissed when they Accidentally start blowing up that other countries shit in said sovereign country.

if hordes of Mongol warriors can’t do it

Didn't Mongols actually invade and control Russia until the reign of Ivan the Terrible?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27

Yup, the Mongol or Tatar "Yoke" as it is sometimes called.

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God if anyone can do anything, it’s the mongols.

I cant believe the left has actually convinced themselves russia is the reason Trump is pres.

I posted Pro Trump posts, memes and videos and am Australian.

Don't forget to blame us too.

I didn’t realize there was no medium between alliance and war. Weird.

Everything you said is retarded.

If Russia truly heroically liberated Crimea like you're saying, then why were they so secretive about it? Russia told the world for a long time that they had nothing to do with it.