Flat earth is a psy-op to discredit, by proximity, anyone questioning the official narratives.

However, we should not ban it, because it's a slippery slope.

Just curious, can you explain your thoughts that conclude it being a psy-op? Honest question for the sake of discussion.

Who benefits from flat earth? It's those who wish to discredit "conspiracy theorists". It also distracts people and wastes their energy.

Why would you visit THAT website? They have daily posts about that flat earth nonsense, therefore they're obviously just a bunch of crackpots who can safely be dismissed.

Also, the fingerprint of shill movements and psy-ops are much different from organic movements. For one, organic movements generally don't spring up virtually overnight, with a huge amount of content.

Who benefits from telling people that the planet that they live on is round when it is really flat? The elite who don't want you to know the truth about who we are. If earth was flat and everything revolved around us, we would start to view ourselves and our planet as being a lot more special than viewing ourselves as an accident. It is a way to prevent people from becoming spiritual.

Your idea to ban flat Earth discussion is completely ignorant and it is clear you have not put in any effort or research into the topic before coming to this idiotic conclusion.

FE is literally nonsense.

I understand your point. I just think it's dangerous to go down the censorship road, because not all psy-ops are as obvious as flat earth, and it's also a good opportunity to educate people about this issue instead of sweeping it under the rug.

check the comments on FE posts, its a massive war of nonsense that wastes time and accomplishes nothing, so to the casual lurker, it looks like any other comment section.

Did you ever think that maybe that is by design by brigades against flat earth??

I find it hilarious that you can not just state the "very simple science" that leads you to believe this topics is "debunked" and should be banned? Can you just admit that you have never researched the subject and you got called out on your bs?

Once again, anyone who argues against flat earth either "hasnt researched it"

The only argument you made is discussion on the subject should be banned because "very simple science" says so. I predicted that the flawed 2000 year old Eratosthenes experiment would be your only "proof" and I was correct. If you have thoroughly researched the subject why do you still believe in a spinning ball earth? What was the main evidence that made you decide that the subject should be banned because it was so obvious we live on a ball?

You're proving my point. You are ignoring anything you cant explain with a flat earth model, and barking that i havent looked into or that i am ignorant and i have no evidence.

No you are proving my point. If you are bringing up the Coriolis effect then you haven't researched the subject for yourself. Why can't you just admit that? You want to ban the discussion on a subject that you have not studied. There is no reason for me to spend a bunch of time going back and forth with someone that close minded.

OMG.. If you had researched it you would know that the direction the water spins down a drain has to do with the angle it is poured and not from the "Coriolis effect" Also storms do not always spin in the same direction from northern and southern "hemispheres". How would that be possible if the effect was from a spinning earth?

Coriolis Effect

Weak arguments from weak minds.

That means a lot coming from someone who can't even correctly spell the term let alone has ever researched it. It is Coriolis not corealis, fyi.

What about the part of the comment where I told you why the Coriolis Effect can not be caused by the earth spinning and even linked to a video explaining it to you. I guess I'll repost it since you thought your spelling error was the best argument I made.

OMG.. If you had researched it you would know that the direction the water spins down a drain has to do with the angle it is poured and not from the "Coriolis effect" Also storms do not always spin in the same direction from northern and southern "hemispheres". How would that be possible if the effect was from a spinning earth? Coriolis Effect

I didn't even mention the spelling until you kept spelling it wrong all while trying to pretend that you've actually researched if the earth spinning really causes the effect. So funny/sad that someone can be so brainwashed they actually want to ban a topic from discussion that they have never even personally researched for themselves.

Who benefits from flat earth? It's those who wish to discredit "conspiracy theorists". It also distracts people and wastes their energy.

Honestly that just sounds like the opinion of someone who has never seriously look into or studied the subject.

Also, the fingerprint of shill movements and psy-ops are much different from organic movements.

If you had researched this topic for years like many of us then you would realize how infested the movement is with shills trying to suppress organic dialogue. There are literally multiple subreddits set up to do nothing but combat and stalk people that try to have an open discussion about the subject. They do this every single day and have been for several years now.

Science should be observable, measurable, and repeatable. How can FE be a psy-op if you stick to scientific discussion? If we really live on a spinning ball earth people shouldn't be afraid to provide evidence if that believe is put to question

P.S. Don't get me wrong there are tons of psy-op flat earthers to discredit the actual movement but the real psy-op is NASA and blindly trusting them to give us our belief system.

Have you ever considered the possibility that it could be both? A psy-op to condition people away from the truth? Hear me out because I agree with what you are saying, it really did blow up out of nowhere. But the media is what enforces psy-ops and there is strategy behind what they do.

Do you recall Obama's speech over the subject? Of all important things for our nation to be addressing, the most iconic leader in the world suddenly argues "We don't have time for a meeting with the flat earth society." This in my opinion is the real psy-op, for a few reasons.

1) Why is our leader wasting his time talking about this?

2) This tells everyone we have zero priority to even reconsider what we believe about the world.

3) Automatically categorizes those who don't believe in a globe model into the "Flat Earth Society." A controlled opposition that throws absurd claims out there with zero proof, like the ground is accelerating upwards. No real flat earth believer believes this. Real flat earth people simply point out the lack of proof from anyone that isn't nasa.

4) Those who don't believe in the globe automatically think the earth is flat. A belief from medieval times, where it is taught people used to believe you could sail off the earth and die. A laughable belief. Who wants to be laughed at? No real flat earth person believes you'll fall off the edge.

What led me back to flat earth was my conclusion that we didn't go to the moon, satellites are only weather balloons, and we have no real photo of our entire planet. Perhaps its just literally impossible to get high enough to capture the entire surface at such a wide angle. They have more to gain from preaching the globe model, and building rockets. 5 trillion dollars. People assume a company with that much money would never use CGI. Its all business and for money and control. We are a nation with no perception of the heavens that trusts its own people.

In my opinion, the psy-op is real, but the more I look at it, it looks like a psy-op goes both ways. You believe the globe psy-op, or you believe the flat earth psy-op. Where real flat earth believers stand is neither, because we just simply believe we are not on a ball in nothing.

How about the theory of gravity

The theory of gravity was created out of necessity when the globe earth theory was introduced

There is not a single experiment that proves gravity exists. That's why it's called the THEORY of gravity. Can you please direct me to the experiment that proves mass attracts mass?

All we can prove are the laws of density and buoyancy. Anything denser than air falls. Anything less dense than air floats. Anything denser than water sinks. Anything less dense than water floats.

Your arrogance is hysterical. Ready to get schooled?

We have the LAW of density and the LAW of buoyancy which you are confusing with the THEORY of gravity. The LAWS of density and buoyancy are tests that are repeated and proven.

Gravity remains a THEORY because there is no test that has proven that the mass of an object can attract a smaller object. Gravity is just a theory that attempts to explain why the LAWS of buoyancy and density exist.

Simply put, you are completely uneducated about this entire topic. Smfh advocating that we remove an entire school of thought from one of the only acceptable places to discuss it and yet you know NOTHING!

Gravity remains a THEORY because there is no test that has proven that the mass of an object can attract a smaller object. Gravity is just a theory that attempts to explain why the LAWS of buoyancy and density exist.

Cavendish

Do you really not know the difference between a theory and a scientific theory?

There is not a single experiment that proves gravity exists. That's why it's called the THEORY of gravity. Can you please direct me to the experiment that proves mass attracts mass?

We know that things with mass have a direct and measurable affect on objects.

Gravity is a theory because we havent discovered the mechanism. No one is stopping alt scientists from creating their own model, hell its encouraged. The problem is no other theory comes even close to explaining the observations we see. Nothing, not EM, sure as hell not buoyancy and even acceleration has issues.

Actually, the theory for gravity has not held up, the theory is full of holes. That's why "science is constantly evolving" (unlike humanity) to come up with better anwsers for the "naysayers".

Gravity doesn't scale up and doesn't scale down. Quantum mechanics and gravity is no bueno, they have to invent quantum gravity to make it work.

Gravity and celestial mechanics is no bueno either, so they invented dark matter and energy.

As a fellow Always Sunny fan: flat Earth ain't a psy-op. Remember that scene where Mac did a big expo on why science is a liar? (sometimes?)

THey know. Hollywood knows...

Sure, but Mac still is right.

You're saying this topic is a psy-op because it couldn't possibly be flat, without having actually looked into it.

From your other posts, I can tell you haven't. Maybe you've seen some mainstream hitpieces (like the Vsauce piece of garbage), but that's only 1 side of the coin. What the other side has to say is pretty interesting, and important.

I hope you change your mind. Was a great episode indeed.

He won't respond to anyone who points out his flawed logic. He doesn't even understand the difference between the LAWS of buoyancy and density, and the THEORY of gravity. The fact that he does not even understand these basic principles is a crystal clear sign that he is nowhere near educated enough to make the bold "flat Earth is obviously a psy op" comments that only dumbass shills default to

Show one single piece of empirical evidence that proves the earth is flat.

Except it had held up. The Cavendish experiment has been repeated multiple times with controlled variables, showing consistent results every time. We've used gravity to predict the movement of planets and to use gravity to slingshot satellites around.

Supertankers can't get too close to one another in open water because their combined gravitational pull will pull them together.

Gravity is not full of holes whatsoever and it's by far superior to any alternative.

We've known the precise movement of the planets way before the concept of gravity was even around. Plenty of ancient cultures figured out the cycles of the planets and stuff.

Supertankers can't get too close to one another because they're supertankers lol. They're massive boats with massive amounts of intertia (aka immovable object/unstoppable force). Them colliding, even at slight speed and favorable angle, would involve massive forces, and thus massive damage. It simply makes sense to keep these boats away from eachother. Nothing to do with gravity lol. Gravity requires alot more mass than just a "tiny" tanker.

Gravity did not hold up. When Hubble was launched (somewhere in the 90's i think) deep space data (the first of it's kind) showed that galaxies were moving at vastle different speeds than previous predicted. Hence why dark matter was invented, because gravity alone "couldn't cut it".

Sure if you assume dark matter (something we can't detect by any means within the electromagnetic spectrum) is real -which is pseuo-science by definition, then gravity held up. There's plenty of mainstream science which says dark matter is bullshit, google it.

So since we're in conspiracy land, we can assume it is bullshit, so we can also say the theory of gravity has no held up for things on the largest of scales.

Similar, within quantum mechanics, there is no room for gravity. All of Cavendish and Newton's experiments fall flat and become useless. That's why quantum mechanics is a "seperate package" within physics.

Einstein knew all of this, he tried to unify them mathematically but never succeeded, yada yada all that.

As for: "Just because there are some things we don't know of yet"

A flat Earther can't even dream of this being a viable anwser.

How are there eclipses on the flat earth? How do seasons work on a flat earth? What about satellites?

Let's be honest: if a Flat Earther doesn't have every single anwser to every single question, the theory gets called out for being bullshit.

And we used those observations to form our theory of gravity. We've used it to extremely accurately predict the motions of comets and satellites.

Supertankers can't get too close to one another because they're supertankers lol.

And they can't get too close because...gravity.
Not because of "inertia". If they're travelling PARALLEL to eachother the lower friction of water + combined gravitational pull means they're pulled together.
That is gravity. I think you've misunderstood what I said.

showed that galaxies were moving at vastle different speeds than previous predicted.

What exactly does that have to do with gravity?
It has nothing at all tondo with gravity. Galaxies can move independent of each other. They can move away or toward each other, gravity is irrelevant to the equation. Gravity simply has nothing to do with the movement of galaxies - do you have any idea how far apart they are?

Again, Dark Matter is a proposed method to explain the expansion of the universe. It doesn't suddenly make gravity irrelevant. Gravity is still here and works exactly the way we predicted it should.

I'm not sure if you just misunderstand what gravity is or are just being intellectually dishonest, which most flat earthers seem to be.

also say the theory of gravity has no held up for things on the largest of scales

How exactly has it not?

There is absolutely no evidence behind that at all. The motion of the planets, the movement of comets and satellites, the repeatable and consistent Cavendish experiment proves that gravity has indeed held up. I think you should do more reading, the expansion of the universe has nothing to do with gravity.

All of Cavendish and Newton's experiments fall flat and become useless.

Who mentioned eclipses? But yes, if flat earthers can't explain basic concepts that the globe already perfectly explains, the "theory" is bullshit, not like it didn't already have a million reasons for being bullshit anyway.

I think we should ban electromagnetic universe.

It pops up every time there is a wikileaks release or a school shooting. Its been so thoroughly debunked we shouldnt talk about it.

It really came out of nowhere with very professional quality content. Usually at first you see some guy in a basement slamming footage together with shitty edits. A lot of the flat earth stuff just looks too good. Plus the content seems to get a lot of up votes quicker than other content.

If you look at pizzagate videos and memes you can tell it is just regular folks putting information out there. The thing the psy-ops fail at over and over is the guts of content. You can manipulate the votes, you can have professionals producing, you can do everything but make it "ring true".

I like the flat earth posts and other obvious bullshit here because the top comments usually show great thinkers picking the theories apart. The only way to combat that is to heavily downvote the rebuttals, which is telling in itself.

The best way to combat schills and psy-ops here is to keep doing our thing. Don't compromise on principle, stay calm, and refute with logic and facts. That way if you see someone with emotional reactions trying to sow discord they stick out as an outsider.

Let the content flow. The gold is in the comments.

came out of nowhere with very professional quality content.

I like that explanation as well as any.

No doubt FE is its own phenomenon. I keep meeting otherwise quite intelligent and balanced theorists going for it. Who am I to keep them from overturning Eratosthenes??

Sometimes I wonder if the existence of FE is like some mascot or good luck charm. As long as you wear it, good luck will follow.

But all said, there seems to be a dynamic that keeps this sub from really drilling into th long-standing questions that should be the mainstay: JFK, 9/11, UFOs, and a slew of related shenanigans. Those are the ones that truly broke the electorate.

I like that explanation as well as any.

Great, Ill grab my pipe and smoking jacket.

meeting otherwise quite intelligent and balanced theorists going for it.

People are not that hard to fool. None of us have a basic understanding of this world.

But all said, there seems to be a dynamic that keeps this sub from really drilling into th long-standing questions that should be the mainstay

4chan does a good job of focusing on something like a laser. A lot of their finds get repeated in here. Overall this sub does a good job of having that content. I still see JFK and 9-11 brought up. Ufos not so much.

Those are the ones that truly broke the electorate.

How so?

Electorate. The fact that both parties are hopelessly implicated means the electorate is broken. I think we the people have to take it where it should go in any supposedly democratic polity. There needs to be a conspiracy party (with some better name than that) effectively challenging these issues at the voting place. 50% of the people don't accept 9/11 and are willing to say so.

yeah don't ban. If it's a month old account don't let them post or something.

Yeah 90% of the traffic on here is now psy-op attempts to convolute any of the hard truths. But like movie CGI or voice automated systems. We can tell when it's fake.

ban FE on the conspiracy sub? are you serious? doesnt matter what you think is debunked, I for one enjoy the FEers. If nothing else it gives us a break from all the Russia bullshit.

did you know that if you don't want to read about the flat earth you don't have to click on the post title and then you won't be bothered by other peoples ideas?

Real Squirrel gets it

i did. who gives a fuck about the "credibility" of this sub. your entire argument spits in the face of what we do here. so, again, it doesnt matter what you think is "debunked" and it doesnt matter if other people think conspiracy theorists are nutty, crazy, or un-credible. thats kind of the nature of these things.

Thats a meme sub bro. I know because I post there

yeah, im cool right here, calling out the bullshit when i feel like it, thanks. and don't worry Obama says you can't undermine an election in the US, not to be snarky.

Stop trying to censor things.

When has censorship ever worked?

All posts without one are deleted. This is censorship, and in this example it worked.

No its not. What group of people is being silenced by requiring a submission statement? What idea or belief is destroyed when we require submission statements?

The word shill has effectively been banned when used in an accusatory manner on this sub.

As it should be. There is not a single good argument that revolves around calling other people shills.

This and the removal of any blatant insults was done to prevent useless bickering and fighting that clogs up the comments section. This is censorship.

No its not. Removing the ability to call people cunts stymies what group or idea?

You have no idea what censorship is

There is not a single good argument that revolves around flat earth (pun intended), nor is there a single good explanation of who the fuck would benefit by lying about the earth being round if it were indeed flat.

I havent heard one yet but Im willing to give people a chance to present their case. Calling people shills is nothing more than a witch hunt, no one wins.

Weak ideas and intellectually dishonest beliefs are being silenced by submission statements.

How is that censorship? Why does a submission statement invalidate a weak idea? Or even an intellectually dishonest one? Does the mods even remove weak posts with a statement?

So demanding i not use "mainstream nasa science" in my arguments is like saying "tell me without using language why you're right"

Stay offline if you cant hang.

Im pretty deep in FE and could make a case without referencing NASA

Suggestion: Censorship of theory that contradicts mainstream belief in sub that encourages questioning mainstream beliefs.

One year ago I argued flat earth was to make us look bad. Now I am ashamed of that. Do your research and avoid controlled opposition and disinformation.

theglobelie

One year ago I argued flat earth was to make us look bad. Now I am ashamed of that.

At least you were humble (wise) enough to admit you had been sucked into the 'us vs them' mentality. Few people have that ability.

I personally think that Flat Earth is comically fallacious, but I don't mind it if other people want to discuss it.

I just wish more people would spend time looking at how absurd the official story is, rather than trying to push new paradigms on people.

Did something happen to make you go full retard and become a flat earther?

What a coincidence, I used to say that too! Now I'm on the other side! amazing.

I have an open mind and looked into the possibility that the Earth isn't round. It turns out the flat earth arguments are all based on bullshit fake math, all of them. It further turns out that there is ample evidence that the Earth is round.

What was the evidence that convinced you the Earth is flat?

May I ask for a citation on the bullshit fake math? Controlled opposition is at play here, nobody really thinks the earth is accelerating upwards.

No, thanks.

Seriously my fave name on reddit. Always makes me wonder if Putin actually does love cats

Assuredly, he does :)

Amazing

This does exactly what FE theorist want, shows them that they are being attacked for a simple belief. When has censoring any idea ever been the answer?

I would say most would want people to understand just how important they truly are.

Sad low energy.

Some Pacific Islanders say we live on the back of a giant turtle... should we not discuss there creation story?

Spez: dafuq I care about this sub's credibility?

LOL nope. Hidden history is a conspiracy, if not the conspiracy.

Take you're thought-policing elsewhere.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Clever psyop.

Shrill

Is this earth obviously not flat? Please show your sources that aren't from NASA or govt funded space travel.

So what you are in effect saying is that there is no evidence outside of govt funded groups that show the earth is round. Perfect. All I was looking for you to say. I also don't believe the earth is flat, but I don't go around saying "oh it's debunked" because of something NASA says. Open your eyes a little more.

It is kind of infuriating how ignorant you are. Take two pens or pencils, stand them both up on a completely flat surface but have them separated. Now take your cell phone flashlight and position your flashlight above one of the pencils. Does the second pencil have the same shadow?

By your logic I just proved the earth is flat.

Do the experiment. Youre referring to Eratosthenes of Cyrene which attempts to measure the circumference of the earth by comparing the shadow of a stick in Cyrene and Alexandria. Carl Sagan is famous for demonstrating the experiment on a piece of paper that he rolls up. He shows how when flat, both sticks have no shadow, but when he curls the paper, one stick has a shadow while the other does not, therefore "proving" the earth is round.

However, there is a MASSIVE flaw in the experiment and that is assuming that the sun is 90 million plus miles away. In the flat Earth theory, the sun is estimated to be much closer to the earth. If you take the flat Earth model (the experiment I just told you to recreate with objects which are readily available) you can see that two sticks can cast dramatically different shadows at the same time.

Carl Sagan could have just as easily demonstrated my experiment and boldly proclaim that the Earth is definitively flat and the sun is not 90 million miles away.

Do yourself a favor and do some actual research before trying to discredit a topic that you know NOTHING about.

The sun IS 90 million miles away. Prove that it isn't and maybe you have some credence to what you are saying.

https://takethisskepticalblog.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/how-to-disprove-the-flat-earth/

Since we took to the air we have refereed to them as planes or airplanes, would that be a conundrum? Or are we just calling them by the wrong name?

Please show your sources that aren't from NASA or govt funded space travel.

Look around you.

You can view curvature when you watch a ship sail over the horizon, then bring it back into view by raising your elevation. I know youll tell me zoom but I can provide example of the Earths curvature obscuring objects that are zoomed in on.

Heres the nail in the coffin for me

https://takethisskepticalblog.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/how-to-disprove-the-flat-earth/

first of all ships DO NOT SAIL over a curvature, they sail out of sight bring out a pair of binoculars and the ship will come back into view..so what happened to the supposed curve it went over.

No. I'm busy but I'll show you how that's wrong tomorrow

Did you miss what Space X has done recently?

If you have traveled east or west in your car to a different state, you will see that the sun rises at different times. If the earth were flat, it would rise at the same time unless we, at a bare minimum, live on a convex earth. If you travel from the US to england, guess what, 5hrs+ difference to the sun rise. Coincidentally, this aligns with the information provided on your globe. So now you have an extremely convex earth. It stands to reason, if you can continue your travels, you will eventually come back to your starting place. That is, if you don't die from stupidity along the way.

If that were to happen, how would people be able to bitch and moan about being held accountable for the more ridiculous shit in the community?

I say stay the course: demand equal air to all opinions, while complaining direly at being considered the company kept!

It starts with FE, then we ban hollow earth, then whatever else people deem too fringe. Its a slippery slope. If anything for this sub I would say ban politics and create a sub dedicated to it.

I've tried going to the other conspiracy subs ore often to change it up, and its also nice seeing users who have been here for a while try to keep the sub true to its form with fringe stuff but it seems to get buried.

I've noticed that as well and wonder to myself if they are doing that to detract from people actually wanting to participate here. They want people to see these posts and have that subconscious thought that the sub is crap.

First they came for the flat earthers and I said nothing because I was not a flat Earther...

Flat Earth may be bullshit but banning it would be against everything this sub stands for

Or you could just ignore them. Low quality troll posts shouldn't bother you this much.

If you want to make this sub a fun place to be again, ban all US politics.

Please. I miss the real shit. This is where I learned about the 432hz theory, a lot about the truth of religion (I came to my own personal conclusions on beliefs based on content here). The real shit that affects us as humans. Talking about politics is like talking about tv shows here. We all know it’s just a show to distract us and keep us in fear so we don’t do anything to change. I loved entertaining the humor of some topics like lizard people and flat earth. I lean more towards certain beliefs about them but I’m open to being proven otherwise. This sub with that old good content made me change focus in my life to better myself. We need that back

Suggestion: stop with the banning. If people thing the earth is flat let them be. It’s of no consequence to reality. No one needs to be convinced.

Is it really so hard to just ignore posts that don't interest you? A slight flip of the finger and poof, it rolls right off your screen.

Yes, i did. And I repeat, what’s the harm of flat earth posts? Who the fuck cares about ‘discrediting the sub’? I think most people are capable of taking each post on its own merit, and saying, Oh no that seems like plausible post but it’s right next to a flat earth post so I’m not so sure.

Just skip the shit posts.

The earth is obviously not flat. I think we can safely call this one debunked.

It is pretty obvious that you have never even studied or researched the topic at all. Did I miss the part were you "easily disproved it with very simple science"? What evidence outside of faith in NASA CGI proved the spinning ball theory to you after you researched the subject with an open mind?

Please tell me it is the over 2,000 year old Eratosthenes experiment that 99% of people bring up as their huge proof. I'll be interested in your response but since it is obvious that you have never even researched into it for yourself I won't be expecting much.

Of a spinning ball earth? No I can't. That is my point.

edit: Can you show me your evidence since you are the one calling for a ban on the discussion of this topic?

Please tell me it is the over 2,000 year old Eratosthenes experiment that 99% of people bring up as their huge proof. I'll be interested in your response but since it is obvious that you have never even researched into it for yourself I won't be expecting much.

https://takethisskepticalblog.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/how-to-disprove-the-flat-earth/

There, the math doesnt add up on a FE.

That site takes you step by step on how and why the angles and ath are broken on a FE

Fuck you

just go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself.

Ban NOTHING......in honor of free speech!

Flare earth and hollow earth fit together.

Censorship is bad.

as a flat earther i can see the earth also being hollow, though i myself havent looked much into the hollow earth

The flat earth meme is a distraction for the normies.. There is zero upside to anyone in lying to the population about the earth being flat or round.. NOBODY benefits from this conspiracy, which completely goes against what makes a conspiracy worth while..

Explain to me why I can't see the edge with my telescope on a clear day.. Tell me why I can't see the same stars as the cunts down under? Tell me why the sun doesn't rise and set at the same time for everyone every day?

The earth is not flat, and anyone that can answer those questions will convince me otherwise, until then, this just getting stale..

The worst part is when someone you love mentions that the earth is flat, and that the ones that shall not be named, are lying to us about flat earth because they lie about everything else..

Friends don't let friends believe in flat earth..

Flat Earthers have a place here, paid political gaslamping

I like that explanation as well as any.

Great, Ill grab my pipe and smoking jacket.

meeting otherwise quite intelligent and balanced theorists going for it.

People are not that hard to fool. None of us have a basic understanding of this world.

But all said, there seems to be a dynamic that keeps this sub from really drilling into th long-standing questions that should be the mainstay

4chan does a good job of focusing on something like a laser. A lot of their finds get repeated in here. Overall this sub does a good job of having that content. I still see JFK and 9-11 brought up. Ufos not so much.

Those are the ones that truly broke the electorate.

How so?

Yes, i did. And I repeat, what’s the harm of flat earth posts? Who the fuck cares about ‘discrediting the sub’? I think most people are capable of taking each post on its own merit, and saying, Oh no that seems like plausible post but it’s right next to a flat earth post so I’m not so sure.

Just skip the shit posts.

as a flat earther i can see the earth also being hollow, though i myself havent looked much into the hollow earth