space based broadband was too expensive with traditional rockets.

Spacex is a commercial venture and oh boy is there money to be made in space

How can they 'make money in space'? Explain it to me.

First of all Elon is angry at the world for lagging in space development he made 150 million from being instrumental in the creation of PayPal and family and friends had interventions begging him to not invest 90% of his newly acquired net worth into a space venture and an electric car venture.

He isnt in it for the money he has clearly stated his patents will be open source and isnt interested in being the most successful company but he wants to reignite interest in 2 VERY important fields.

But to answer your question.

• Government contracts worth 100s of millions,

• space mining (1 asteroid mined could cash the world economy)

• Commercial ventures (passengers around the world in 60 minutes or less) (tickets to mars or the moon)

space mining (1 asteroid mined could cash the world economy)

Do people really believe this nonsense?

Many have called them the “truest form of black gold,” and they often sell for $300.00 per gram or more - meaning a 1 pound meteorite can be worth a million dollars.

they often sell for $300.00 per gram or more

What the hell are you talking about?

I decided to search for meteorite prices after reading your comment. That’s what I found. I also found a few sites selling meteorites. Prices match up.

how would one verify that these are REAL 'meteorites'?

Take it to Pawn Stars. Rick or Chumlee probably has a guy that can appraise it for you.

I hate when retards pretend to be smart and condescending they spread stupidity to all the lurkers, also pretty disingenuous to ignore the rest of the points.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-value-of-asteroid-mining-2016-11

If humans were ever able to get their hands on just one asteroid, it would be a game-changer.

That's because the value of many asteroids are measured in the quintillions of dollars, which makes the market for Earth's annual production of raw metals - about $660 billion per year - look paltry in comparison.

How can anybody claim to know what an asteroid is 'worth'?

Seriously.

Because if the materials that would be found on it. We are able to discern through various methods what other bodies in space are made up of.

Not to mention the fact that meteorites do land occasionally and are retrieved.

Because if the materials that would be found on it. We are able to discern through various methods what other bodies in space are made up of.

Please explain this process to me, this should be good.

Main methods used are spectroscopy and analysis of recorded meteorites.

Are you able to explain how 'spectroscopy' works?

All elements on the periodic table have unique structures which emit different wavelengths of light when their electrons get excited.

A spectrometer is able to breakdown those wave lengths so that the composition of the object being studied is discernible.

The guy is either an idiot or a troll. I have had a couple running with him and he can't grasp the slightest elements and can't research anything other than looking at YouTube vids.

I am surprised I don't have him blocked yet. He and his ilk are derailing any real conversations.

I kinda got that vibe. I think he expected me to not know what I was talking about and instead decided to jump ship when he didn’t have a rebuttal ready to address my points.

He isn't worth the time but his history shows his bent.

It's a strange hobby if he is not just really stupid.

All elements on the periodic table have unique structures which emit different wavelengths of light when their electrons get excited.

1) Do you believe these 'electrons' exist? If so, why?

2) How does the process you describe apply to meteorites in space?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is: It works because elements emit light in a specific part of the electromagnetic spectrum. You run the light through a prism and it splits the light into those spectra.

So you hold a prism up to the eyepiece of the telescope, and then see what color of light comes through.

And how does this apply to meteorites in space?

The same way it applies to everything, since everything is made up of atoms*

Or maybe not, but atoms are a convention we’ve used that has worked to consistently describe and predict the behavior of matter. So even if they aren’t what we think they are, our rules about them still work since they are derived from observation of behavior.

The Rutherford-Bohr model is a good example of this type of thing. It says electrons orbit at specific energy levels and describes the way different atoms interact as a result of their electron configuration. We now know that electrons don’t really orbit and exist as more of a probability cloud, but the rules still work and we can still use them to describe or predict behavior.

This applies to most science, it is accepted because it works, and because anyone can verify it themselves if they are willing to put the effort in, and that’s why “science deniers” have never really gained a foothold. If anyone was able to actually disprove something scientifically, they would be congratulated. They haven’t been able to disprove anything though, let alone to propose a new model that offers more accurate predictions.

You can buy a telescope and a prism and test this yourself, and if your experiment results in an anomaly, then you can explain it and people will listen.

But trolling around here asking dumb gotcha questions in the hopes of making yourself feel “woke” won’t do shit. You just look like an idiot who hasn’t had much of an education.

Or maybe I’m mistaken and you’ve published the results of your experiments? If so I’d be interested in seeing that.

anyone can verify it themselves if they are willing to put the effort in

How would one go about verifying the contents of meteorites in space?

Well for one thing, meteorites fall to the earth, so they could confirm those. This is unnecessary, however, since there are plenty of things on earth to test the method on and confirm that it works as expected. For example:

You could test it on a variety of rocks of known composition and see what results from each type of rock. You could test it on a gold ring and silverware.

Edit coming in a second, switching from phone to desktop. Will include more resources

Well for one thing, meteorites fall to the earth, so they could confirm those.

Unless they saw it fall to earth themselves, how could they know the legitimacy/provenance of an alleged 'meteorite'?

I agree that you’d want to see it fall to earth yourself. Then you could analyze that one and compare it to other alleged meteorites to see if they are made up of the same materials.

Im sure your smarter than the dozen articles from reputable sources claiming otherwise

Use your own brain and think through this one, chief.

Says the individual who over values his own intelligence yet cant bother to do some google research.

Keep your head in the dirt bud

google research

lol

laying ground work for space development.

Idk m8 I think you kind of answered your own question.

Is Elon Musk Iron man? Basically

Dont forget Neuralink, he has the clearly stated goal of putting silk computers in our brains and merging humanity with super intelligetn AIs

SpaceX is a fraud just like NASA. They are supposed to be the "Independent private sector" space agency but they get $ billions from the tax payers and are closer to a Hollywood agency than a space agency.

So long story short, to me Elon is just the spokesperson pawn playing the role of the "Iron Man" type character.

Exactly. All of his projects are government subsidized.

The same way it applies to everything, since everything is made up of atoms*

Or maybe not, but atoms are a convention we’ve used that has worked to consistently describe and predict the behavior of matter. So even if they aren’t what we think they are, our rules about them still work since they are derived from observation of behavior.

The Rutherford-Bohr model is a good example of this type of thing. It says electrons orbit at specific energy levels and describes the way different atoms interact as a result of their electron configuration. We now know that electrons don’t really orbit and exist as more of a probability cloud, but the rules still work and we can still use them to describe or predict behavior.

This applies to most science, it is accepted because it works, and because anyone can verify it themselves if they are willing to put the effort in, and that’s why “science deniers” have never really gained a foothold. If anyone was able to actually disprove something scientifically, they would be congratulated. They haven’t been able to disprove anything though, let alone to propose a new model that offers more accurate predictions.

You can buy a telescope and a prism and test this yourself, and if your experiment results in an anomaly, then you can explain it and people will listen.

But trolling around here asking dumb gotcha questions in the hopes of making yourself feel “woke” won’t do shit. You just look like an idiot who hasn’t had much of an education.

Or maybe I’m mistaken and you’ve published the results of your experiments? If so I’d be interested in seeing that.