If the moon is 238,900 miles from earth, how can consumer cameras like the Nikon p900 zoom in so close, so easily? (Not a flat Earth post, just distance) Links below:
Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers man. We have cool technology that can read license plates from space and we have begun to shirink it down to handheld size and point it the other direction. What do you expect?
Like I said, you just asked a stupid question "how does a handheld camera zoom in on the moon". Well it's digital and optical zoom. It's created by changing the distance between the lenses on a camera. Fucking technology dude. Don't be stupid.
It was you're question. You're obviously looking for a confirmation of whatever bias you have. Would you be happy if I said the moon is actually just a large satellite and much closer than the government tells us? Yeah. This is like talking to a wall. Tell your parents you're sorry for being a pain in the ass.
Your question was, "why can cameras zoom in on the moon so easily",and the answer is in the basics of telescopes/optics lol , im sorry you can't connect the two in your brain
And because you unable to express yourself correctly, what you meant to ask was "how can we prove the Earth is as far away as it is" there are a lot of ways but one is because we can literally bounce signals off of it given the right equipment.
you need more explanation? is their a problem with that explanation? you havent said why its unacceptable as an explanation other than it seems you wont accept it
It's the same concept. An ant is tiny but looks big under a magnifying glass. A 500$ camera has a decent bit of technology in it to make it good at being a camera... And part of that is the zoom
If you're trying to prove the distance between the moon and earth, then there are much better ways to do that other than debating the zoom quality of a hobby camera.
“83x optical zoom/166x Dynamic Fine Zoom super telephoto NIKKOR lens” from specs. Anyone familiar with photography will know how using telephoto compresses depth/perspective. This combined with the size of the moon will get you there.
Consider, for reference, that the typical lenses used for sports photography are around the 300mm range. In 35mm photography terminology, this is less than 10x.
I don’t think you’ve articulated exactly what you’re looking for, then. 166x is the equivalent of a 5,800+ mm telescope or lens. That’s enough to get the pictures you’re questioning.
I’m not gonna do the legwork for you, but there are several online calculators you can use for that. A quick search will get you there.
Another thing you must consider is that most of the images are probably cropped for a more dramatic view. I mention this to clarify that just because an object is filling up the frame in the uploaded photos, it doesn’t mean the object itself is that closely zoomed to fill the frame of what the camera saw.
Also understand that zooms work by compressing the perceived depth of view. The higher you get in the telephoto range, the more that depth is compressed. According to the wiki page the moon is about 3,500km in diameter. This is huge and a ~5.5k mm lens in 35mm format terms should be plenty enough for that.
I’m not trying to prove that the moon is the distance stated. I’m trying to provide enough data so that you can check for yourself.
The moon is about the size of a quarter at arms length with the naked eye. If you zoom 83x in on a quarter from 3 feet would you get the same magnification as shown in the moon videos? (Is that your basic question reworded?)
One thing that doesn't make perfect sense to me is the perspective of seeing earth from the moon. I'm not talking about the angular size or anything but I think it should generally appear larger than it does in the majority of photographs
You ever look at a big view, say of a valley surrounded by mountains, and the mountains seem giant, then you take a picture and the mountains are just a thin strip in the middle of the photo?
The moon seems bigger in real life because your brain is focusing on it and ignoring the surrounding view, in a way cameras don't.
Fortunately there are also highly intelligent men dressed up in costumes who waive guns and initiate violence while brandishing scribblings made by other men in robes and who keep us all safe
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57 comments
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
Because the moon and it's features are giant.... seriously?
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Yes, the moon is a large object. That doesn't explain the question though.
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
Yes... it does.... they csn zoom so "close" to the moon becsuse its so big that it looks close...
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
So the answer is "cause the moon is big".
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers man. We have cool technology that can read license plates from space and we have begun to shirink it down to handheld size and point it the other direction. What do you expect?
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
You can't explain it other than saying that the moon is big, which is obvious. Get off your high horse and give a real explanation, if it's so stupid.
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
Like I said, you just asked a stupid question "how does a handheld camera zoom in on the moon". Well it's digital and optical zoom. It's created by changing the distance between the lenses on a camera. Fucking technology dude. Don't be stupid.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
That's not what my question was
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
Try this
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
I know how camera zooms work, that wasn't my question.
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
"How can consumer cameras zoom in so close"
It was you're question. You're obviously looking for a confirmation of whatever bias you have. Would you be happy if I said the moon is actually just a large satellite and much closer than the government tells us? Yeah. This is like talking to a wall. Tell your parents you're sorry for being a pain in the ass.
1 talixansoldier 2018-03-05
LOL
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
You took a portion of my question and are pretending it was all I said. Nice! Still no answer to my actual question.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Genius guy you are for recognizing the moon is big.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Learn how to read
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
I think you need to learn how to do basic math kek
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
K, tell us all this simple math that explains my question, Einstein
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
Do you know how telescopes work or
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Yes I do. My question wasn't how they work.
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
Are you sure you do? If you did, you wouldnt be asking conspiracy reddit why a zoom on a camera can see large features on the moon
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
My question wasn't "how do zooms work".
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
Your question was, "why can cameras zoom in on the moon so easily",and the answer is in the basics of telescopes/optics lol , im sorry you can't connect the two in your brain
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Can you explain this simple math, so we can lay the subject to rest?
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
And because you unable to express yourself correctly, what you meant to ask was "how can we prove the Earth is as far away as it is" there are a lot of ways but one is because we can literally bounce signals off of it given the right equipment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Earth_communication
I know you aren't going to believe any of it anyway because you choose not to so good luck
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1 Anontifa 2018-03-05
Give an explanation for why a large object can't be zoomed in on! All you're saying is, "It's far away!"
1 skyderper13 2018-03-05
you need more explanation? is their a problem with that explanation? you havent said why its unacceptable as an explanation other than it seems you wont accept it
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
If you're satisfied with the answer "because the moon is big", that's your own deal.
1 Workmask 2018-03-05
lol yes. Just like an elephant looks big through binoculars.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Elephants aren't 238,900 miles away
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
It's the same concept. An ant is tiny but looks big under a magnifying glass. A 500$ camera has a decent bit of technology in it to make it good at being a camera... And part of that is the zoom
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Great, but that doesn't prove the moon is 238,900 miles from earth and that the Nikon p900 is capable of that range.
1 Workmask 2018-03-05
If you're trying to prove the distance between the moon and earth, then there are much better ways to do that other than debating the zoom quality of a hobby camera.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
I suppose it should be easy to answer then? (Without the answer being "the moon is big" and "zoom lenses") which isn't my question at all.
1 Workmask 2018-03-05
The answer is yes, the moon is 238,900 miles away.
1 Anontifa 2018-03-05
Elephants aren't 2000 miles in radius.
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
You don't get how scales work do you?
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Still waiting on your explanation. Saying "because the moon is big" is as stupid as you think my question is.
1 Anontifa 2018-03-05
Actually it's the perfect answer to your assertion which is just saying, "it's far away"
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
So, no real answer nice.
1 Anontifa 2018-03-05
You have no real question.
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
This has to be a troll
1 UnbearablePenguin 2018-03-05
I'm going to guess he's stoned.
1 crabsneverdie 2018-03-05
You're the worst kind of idiot.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Great explanation!
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
Yes it does lmao
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Explain
1 CMDaddyPig 2018-03-05
Okay. One last time...
1 WarSanchez 2018-03-05
Nah, whatchu talking about, It's the size on one 16" Deep Dish Triple Pep Pizza.
1 Peacemaker_58 2018-03-05
Fuck now I'm hungry
1 tjswooshmenzada 2018-03-05
show me the other side!
1 russianbot01 2018-03-05
That's where the alien skyscrapers are packed in like Tokyo.
1 ogrelin 2018-03-05
“83x optical zoom/166x Dynamic Fine Zoom super telephoto NIKKOR lens” from specs. Anyone familiar with photography will know how using telephoto compresses depth/perspective. This combined with the size of the moon will get you there.
Consider, for reference, that the typical lenses used for sports photography are around the 300mm range. In 35mm photography terminology, this is less than 10x.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
It doesn't explain my question, Jesus Christ.
1 ogrelin 2018-03-05
I don’t think you’ve articulated exactly what you’re looking for, then. 166x is the equivalent of a 5,800+ mm telescope or lens. That’s enough to get the pictures you’re questioning.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Yes, that's a nice zoom but it doesn't program that the moon is 238,900 miles away.
1 ogrelin 2018-03-05
I’m not gonna do the legwork for you, but there are several online calculators you can use for that. A quick search will get you there.
Another thing you must consider is that most of the images are probably cropped for a more dramatic view. I mention this to clarify that just because an object is filling up the frame in the uploaded photos, it doesn’t mean the object itself is that closely zoomed to fill the frame of what the camera saw.
Also understand that zooms work by compressing the perceived depth of view. The higher you get in the telephoto range, the more that depth is compressed. According to the wiki page the moon is about 3,500km in diameter. This is huge and a ~5.5k mm lens in 35mm format terms should be plenty enough for that.
I’m not trying to prove that the moon is the distance stated. I’m trying to provide enough data so that you can check for yourself.
1 xxaos 2018-03-05
Then what is your question?
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
It's in the post title...
1 shmusko01 2018-03-05
They're good lenses.
1 russianbot01 2018-03-05
The moon is about the size of a quarter at arms length with the naked eye. If you zoom 83x in on a quarter from 3 feet would you get the same magnification as shown in the moon videos? (Is that your basic question reworded?)
1 xxaos 2018-03-05
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telescope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=5v7bN13PjZ8
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
Why is everyone explaining how telescopes and zoom works? That's not what the question is.
1 xxaos 2018-03-05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP5XQYjaU8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iWKepn1TDs
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
Because you literally asked "why can cameras zoom in on the moon so easily" lmao
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
That was part of the question, if you want to take it out of context sure.
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
No that's the question you asked, look at your thread title
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
That's part of the question, not the entire question. You chose to pick part of it and put it in quotation.
1 BlackhawkBolly 2018-03-05
No, it's all you asked. I didn't pick apart anything kek
1 GoodCat85 2018-03-05
Uea you literally asked one question and its been answered. Just be cool with it.
1 crabsneverdie 2018-03-05
One thing that doesn't make perfect sense to me is the perspective of seeing earth from the moon. I'm not talking about the angular size or anything but I think it should generally appear larger than it does in the majority of photographs
1 russianbot01 2018-03-05
It's like I tell girls when I take dick pics, there is camera shrinkage. :(
1 AnalgesicSonar 2018-03-05
You ever look at a big view, say of a valley surrounded by mountains, and the mountains seem giant, then you take a picture and the mountains are just a thin strip in the middle of the photo?
The moon seems bigger in real life because your brain is focusing on it and ignoring the surrounding view, in a way cameras don't.
1 crabsneverdie 2018-03-05
Same would be true of a photograph of the earth from the moon
1 justinxduff 2018-03-05
Lunar laser ranging experiment. Look it up.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-03-05
Do you believe that humans can beam lasers to the moon?
1 Workmask 2018-03-05
Remember everyone, OP is allowed to vote.
1 o0squirrel0o 2018-03-05
And buy a gun.
1 murphy212 2018-03-05
Fortunately there are also highly intelligent men dressed up in costumes who waive guns and initiate violence while brandishing scribblings made by other men in robes and who keep us all safe
1 TrustMe_ImJesus 2018-03-05
And a chainsaw aswell
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-03-05
And flu vaccines. There is hope!
1 murphy212 2018-03-05
Fortunately there are the intellectual snobs to act as counterbalance
1 Step2TheJep 2018-03-05
Which should be all the evidence you need to know that voting is a sham, given to the masses to placate them, to make them think they actually have a say in how the world is run.
1 BCN10 2018-03-05
the earth is fucking round
1 Step2TheJep 2018-03-05
Is it spinning?
1 UnbearablePenguin 2018-03-05
I'm going to guess he's stoned.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
If you're satisfied with the answer "because the moon is big", that's your own deal.
1 Beetlejuiceisking 2018-03-05
That's part of the question, not the entire question. You chose to pick part of it and put it in quotation.