Why hasn't america collapsed yet?
0 2018-03-17 by Mrexreturns
According to all of the predictions about the end of America in the past, if they were all true, The US would had been taken over by a global government last year. Why has nothing happened yet? Why is world war iii not starting yet? And why had all the riots stopped since the charlottsville one? Also, why hasn't Obama or Trump abolished the american government for a global government last year?
Why are all of these stuff not happening at all? People keep saying big and ugly events will happen but few ever come true. I DO believe something big and ugly is happening soon but it's strange that it isn't even sooner.
39 comments
11 mean_sartinez 2018-03-17
Because a talented team of psychonauts keeps saving us
1 radicalfnjay 2018-03-17
Yes
1 InfinityFractal 2018-03-17
Go on...
1 mean_sartinez 2018-03-17
By navigating the collective human consciousness to positive realities
1 InfinityFractal 2018-03-17
Do you have any links to share? I'm a bit of psychonaut myself, though I've avoided psychedelics in recent times. Would love to read about navigating the collective conscious.
1 mean_sartinez 2018-03-17
Idk man I’m still trying to figure out the maya illusion for myself. I wouldn’t know where you are on your path
5 nicernow 2018-03-17
Americans aren't all the assholes who represent them on the world stage.
Americans will struggle for their communities against the parasites feeding on them.
4 EpicLevelWizard 2018-03-17
The same reason all the other constant predictions about the end of the world, global conspiracies, and massive wars don't come true. The predictions are usually made based on no evidence by people who are a few aces short of a deck. Most will also still say the things are happening to fit their views, much like those who believe in types of astrology or a higher power/literal holy book translations, they will interpret it various ways so some stuff can be called true and their cognitive dissonance can continue.
Any more reading this, it does not violate rule 10 as I did not single any group out and honestly answered his question to the best of my abilities based on observation, i.e. Free discussion, since I'm sure someone will get offended and report it.
1 RobertAntonWilson 2018-03-17
What do you make of the http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6671943
1 rch7953 2018-03-17
some skewed data right there
4 IAMN30 2018-03-17
Because the NWO and elitist satanic pedophiles are losing their fight for total control.
1 ScaredycatMatt 2018-03-17
Are they? Certainly doesn't feel like it.
1 japroct 2018-03-17
Exposure is their weakness. Expose the names and the public, not the military, will destroy them. Look at recent history and it shows this.
0 IAMN30 2018-03-17
These evil people have been unchallenged and absolute victors for at least the past 100 years and the simple fact that we are sitting here discussing even the idea that they exist and that they may be losing their fight is clear evidence of my assumption. They may have won many battles but overall they are losing the war.
3 k722 2018-03-17
Because the banking and corporate elite would lose money and power if it did collapse.
3 Zarathasstra 2018-03-17
It has.
1 LurkPro3000 2018-03-17
This is quite possible. There could have been Secret deals and global treaties struck behind closed doors years ago and "we" would never know unless they made an official announcement.
1 Zarathasstra 2018-03-17
Or unless you checked the federal funds rate and M1 money supply since 2008
1 LurkPro3000 2018-03-17
Care to elaborate? Honestly and curiously looking for an answer. If complicated a link to a video will Suffice.
1 Zarathasstra 2018-03-17
Some of the below is thinly sourced (the facts are often available, but what's missing are appropriate comparisons; for example FRED data for the Dow Jones Index doesn't go back far enough in a single chart for easy meaningful long term analysis, this was not always the case as I recall comparing the great depression with the great recession previously).
In addition many data sets and analysis pointing to this conclusion are locked behind paywalls and taken down aggressively with copyright notices or otherwise censored.
Federal Funds Rate This is the rate of return of investment you get for investing in the United States, peaked around the time the US put a man on the moon for the last time and has been in decline since then:
Money Printing
Classically known as inflation (CPI is a political measurement)[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/US_Consumer_Price_Index_Graph.svg], but shows similar rates of runaway hyperinflation.
The above two are the most objective ways of looking at whether an economy is in collapse, but we can also look at other more subjective measurements:
Despair, American Style
US Political Institutions in Decay
Book Review: Political Order and Political Decay
Incarceration Rate Per Capita
This is the percentage of people incarcerated. The United States is number 2 on the list, far ahead of collapsed or failing states like Rwanda, South Africa, Iran and Russia. And the numbers for the US listed above only include adults who are incarcerated. This is around triple the incarceration rate of Germany in 1939, according to AskHistorians.
How US Gun Deaths Compare
The review of 2010 World Health Organization data also revealed that despite having a similar rate of nonlethal crimes as those countries, the United States has a much higher rate of deadly violence, mostly due to the higher rate of gun-related murders. Gun deaths in the US are higher than in Mexico or South Africa, per capita. Neither of which are really prime examples of successful states.
Child Sexual Abuse: Top 5 Countries With the Highest Rates
The ability to protect children is a mark of a functional state. Once again, look who we find on this list of worst collapsed countries.
Are there any other statistics which normally indicate collapse that you think prove America Stronk? Keep in mind that North Korean and Soviet Propaganda kept boldly claiming they were stronger than any other countries long after the state collapsed.
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2 Lutherkiss3 2018-03-17
Patience my dears patience
2 useless_aether 2018-03-17
i think because the american military is still the biggest in the world and the empire must keep fighting and conquering lands for the papacy and coercing nations into the luciferian nwo. the job is still not done and although there are other
worthycommie candidates (china+russia) in the pipeline, they are still relatively weak and only good enough for regional powers.2 radarerror31 2018-03-17
Why would America need to collapse? The ruling class has literally everything it wants, and it is far easier to act with America's precedent than start something new. As far as some global government - for all intents and purposes, for the professional class that already exists, and nation-states are just pens to hold in the people who aren't allowed free movement or power.
1 RobertAntonWilson 2018-03-17
Lots of wealth to be made off of a collapse.
2 Ls2323 2018-03-17
It's been 10 years since the last major economic crisis. These crisis are well known to happen regularly, about every 10-15 years.
So get the popcorn ready because the next one will bankrupt the US and it won't be pretty. Ripple effects might take down the world economy as well. Buy bitcoin now (they're on sale!).
My guess is it will get split into 50 countries or a bunch of smaller unions etc.
1 japroct 2018-03-17
What about the failed attempted coup of the Trump presidency itself? I would think that counts as a "major event".
1 mm902 2018-03-17
https://redd.it/85faii
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1 mm902 2018-03-17
Literally because the petrodollar is in effect. Have you noticed the powers that are trying to make a go of foming an alternative to it have lately become suspicious states in the media zeigeist of the west. Im looking at you BRICS. Not long ago they were ok from media viewpoint.
2 dirkdeagler 2018-03-17
Yes. The bilateral Sino-Russian trade agreements denominated in their own respective currencies are the first cracks in the edifice of the petrodollar. I think this is why Syria and Russian collusion continue to feature heavily in our propaganda diet.
Couple that with new generations of missile technology rendering the bulk of our conventional force projection via aircraft carriers obsolete against these nations, and you start to see the basis for a shift in the balance of power. I still don't think it's going to happen overnight, and probably the best strategy is to let US corruption gradually eat the nation from within.
1 mm902 2018-03-17
Exactley the states that have/or formed an alternative, and that could eaisily be tackled, namely the african alliance have, or are in the process of destabalisation, Syria, south Africa at el. Russia and China are a different kettle of fish. Especially China. As the US has painted themselves into a corner with them by forming a too big to fail symbiotic (weakness) relationship with them. Puts the sino-russian side at a bit of an advantage, that is unless the US can untangle, but I think nigh on impossible. The amount of debt stored up by both parties on the US is incredible. Do you think this new belligerence is a shot across the bow that they know the petrodollar is sorta on its last legs, you know, with all the what not of alternative energy etc, that they planning on reneging on that? Im sure some think tank has put the writing on the wall.
1 mm902 2018-03-17
Brillant discussion thread. Please all take the time to view all reponses to query. Ive noticed a lot of quality information.
0 dropdeadgregg 2018-03-17
Because the collapse conspiracy theories, are probably feed to you by the American government so you think it's over and you don't try to change anything.
0 heresmything 2018-03-17
He hasn’t heard of the lindy effect. 🤣
-2 talleyhooo 2018-03-17
I'm struggling to think of any likely scenario where this could actually occur. A global government just seems like fear mongering to me.
How could it ever be accomplished? And even if it were possible, how could the leader of one country make it happen?
1 useless_aether 2018-03-17
project bluebeam - faking an alien invasion, triggering the humans into unifying against the threat, causing the nations to surrender their sovereignty to the pope (a la ronald reagans speech at the un).
ww3: using the hegelian method, several thesis/antithesis ideologies will destroy each other (pike and blavatsky), presenting us with the synthesis: the nwo. again, headed by the papacy
causing a civil war in america and thus destroying it and especially the middle class thus achieving socialism. after a bloody purge of millions of 'heretics', america will be ready to join its socialist brothers (primarily russia and china), who both already underwent the purge under mao, lenin and stalin.
keep demoralizing and indoctrinating the americans through education, failing infrastructure, gmos, politics, pollution, pharmaceuticals, corruption and other slow-kill and soft-kill methods, to the point it looses its superpower status and simply collapses like rome did.
there are possibly many other ways to do it.
1 mm902 2018-03-17
Really big thumbs up!! On the ball.
1 useless_aether 2018-03-17
thanks! i guess 'the powers that shouldnt be' could also do some/all of the above simultaneously..