I agree- the hammer must fall soon, one way or the other. The past tendencies of our government and the wider West make me think that we won't simply allow Assad and Russia to win this one...there will be, as you say, a final hammer blow...one last hail marry as an attempt to destroy Syria and Assad.

The problem is that too many in the West still believe the Corporate Propaganda machine...they think CNN is somehow better than RT, so they "trust" it and will gobble up the bullshit they feed them as justification for war...

CNN don't you mean all american media?

Yes, CNN is just an example.

We can't be bothered with Israel's attempts to kill the leader of a sovereign nation. Instead, we need to worry about Russian boogeymen killing spies in the UK.

Can Israel attack into Syria?

F-16 taken down by a 1960's s5 missile, that shouldn't be posiible, Russian EW systems in effect maybe.

Russia has a strictly defensive doctrine, if they (Russians) have decided to defend Syria then it will be hard to attack.

How many strikes since the f-16 shoot down?

None.

After their jet was shut down they'll just have their attack dog (USA) do the dirty work.

All the US can do is shoot some cruise missiles and Russia's takedown of those missiles will greater than the 2/3rds takedown of the earlier attack.

Russia is ready and waiting to unleash hell if Syria is attacked. Putin & Lavrov have each made this very clear in the past few days.

Right on the nose, sir

https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2018/03/attention-major-escalation-in-middle.html?spref=fb&m=1

"The Russian Chief of Staff has been officially informed by the United States of America that it would conduct military operations in Damascus within 48 hours. Russia has informed Iran of this and Iran is moving anti-ship missile batteries to the mouth of the Persian Gulf. The USS Theodore Roosevelt and its strike group may not get out of the Persian Gulf alive"

Yes: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-usa/russia-says-u-s-plans-to-strike-damascus-pledges-military-response-idUSKCN1GP0TY

Russian Minister of Defense, US readying strikes on Syria ""These provocations are supposed to be a pretext for the US and its allies for strikes against military and government targets on Syria’s territory," he stated.

"We note that there are signs of preparations for possible attacks. Strike groups of cruise missile carriers have been formed in the east of the Mediterranean Sea, Persian Gulf and Red Sea," he added.

Rudskoy also asked: "whom is the USA going to help with these strikes? Al-Nusra terrorists and its accomplices operating in Eastern Ghouta?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oMBd3jFZys&feature=youtu.be

Putin made is very clear a few days ago that Russia has a missile which can be fired from an attack jet which can sink a carrier.

We have seen the dramatic effectiveness of the Russian cruise missiles and of Russian missile defenses.

Putin also made it very clear that if the US, Britain, France or Israel use any nuclear weapons then Russia will provide blowback from which these nations will not recover.

I have no doubt that Russia is capable of defensive and retaliatory measures, but this is not a scenario that I am comfortable entertaining.

We, the people of the West, are being lead and goaded -- mesmerized and hoodwinked by lies and propaganda -- into a conflict that does not need to happen, and will not serve the interests of the US, Russia, Syria, or anyone else... well, almost anyone else. Those that are plotting this contrived conflagration seem to be smugly confident in their ability to prevail.

I hope that they're in for a surprise.

One thing is for sure; the people in the USA, Britain, Israel, France and any ally of theirs who vote or sanction war will not be fighting it.

Doesn't IS require that ALL countries' regimes be replaced with NWO-obedient sockpuppet leaders?

For more info:

According to Russia, Trump has ordered the killing of Syrian civilians (on Israeli orders) in order to justify US attacks on Syria in support of terrorists aligned with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Poison gas is to be used, as the US has done many times in the past. Of course, these same terrorists are the ones the US claims is responsible for the attack on 9/11. Is anyone out there waking up?

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/03/17/us-training-syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attack-as-basis-for-airstrikes-russian-mod/

Relevant:

Russian claims that US is planning a false-flag chemical weapons attack is a distraction, Pentagon says

Quote:

On Tuesday, Russian officials claimed that militants are preparing to use chemical agents in Syria, and intend to put the blame on the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, according to Tass, a state-run news agency in Russia.

Russian Army Gen. Valery Gerasimov said that the United States is planning to then use the chemical attack as a way to "furnish the so-called ‘evidence’ of the alleged mass civilian deaths through the fault of the Syrian government and the Russian leadership supporting it."

"As a countermeasure, Washington plans to deliver a missile and bomb strike against Damascus’ government districts," Gerasimov said, according to Tass.

Those assertions are a distraction from the Assad regime’s own use of chemical weapons in the Syrian capital of Damascus, according to Marine Maj. Adrian Rankine-Galloway, a Pentagon spokesman.

“It is impossible to ignore the growing body of evidence that Syria is continuing to use chemical weapons on its own people — a clear violation of international law,” Rankine-Galloway told Military Times. “As Secretary Tillerson said in Paris in January, Russia ultimately bears responsibility for the countless Syrians targeted with chemical weapons since Russia became involved in Syria.”

It it true? Has Syria used CWs "against its own people", as claimed?

If so, why? Have illegal chemical weapons been more effective in killing and maiming in Syria than the "legal" conventional weapons that have been readily available to Assad and his allies?

The short answer: No.

The long answer: FUCK NO.

Having done a fair amount of research on the use and efficacy of Chemical Weapons in Syria, I have learned that, compared to "legal" conventional weapons, Chemical Weapons have been pathetically impotent when targeting civilians, an utterly worthless when targeting enemy combatants.

In fact, the ONLY thing that Chemical Weapons are really good for (in this type of theater of war) is PROPAGANDA: Thanks to the horrors of Trench Warfare in WW1, the fear and dread of such weapons in the public mind is such that the mere accusation of their use can influence the ignorant and befuddled consumers of propaganda (that would be us) to support egregious offensive military campaigns that they would otherwise reject outright.

Now, let's look at some facts and statistics regarding the use (or alleged use) of Chemical Weapons, and their effectiveness as a weapon, in Syria from the onset of the war through January, 2018:

As of January, 2018, there were a total of 69 reported CW Incidents in Syria.

• In 28 incidents, ZERO deaths or injuries were reported

• In 30 incidents, Civilian Injuries were reported

• In 17 incidents, Civilian Deaths were reported

• In 7 incidents, Combatant Injuries were reported

• In 2 incidents, Combatant Deaths were reported

Here is a pie chart approximating the number of ALLEGED deaths causes by CW's in Syria as opposed to all deaths from the war.

Here is a pie chart showing the numbers of deaths/injuries of civilians and combatants allegedly from Chemical Weapons

• Number of Civilians Injured: 1,145

• Number of Civilians Killed: 1,016

• Number of Combatants Injured: 80

• Number of Combatants Killed: 4 (yes, you read that right - FOUR)

Here is another illustration of the above data that may help

Here is a chart showing the military affiliation of combatants allegedly killed or injured by Chemical Weapons

• Total Injuries 80: Assad's Soldiers=66; Kurdish Forces=12; Free Syrian Army (rebels)=2; (ISIS and other "terrorists"=ZERO)

• Total Deaths 4 (four): Assad's Soldiers=1; Kurdish Forces=3; Free Syrian Army (rebels)=ZERO. (ISIS and other "terrorists"=ZERO)

(Considering that recent estimates put the overall death toll of the war at ~500,000, *civilian and combatants, it soon becomes clear that Chemical Weapons SUCK as a weapon, at least in THIS war)

Moving along, we see that of all 1,016 deaths attributed to Chemical Weapons in use Syria, 92% occurred in only THREE (two?) of the 69 reported incidents

• 837 Deaths resulted from the Twin Attacks in Ghouta in August, 2013

• ~100 Deaths resulted from the attack on Khan Shaykhun last year (April, 2017) (figures subject to official revision)

Tally of Casualties by Suspected Chemical Weapons

As noted above, 92% of all alleged CW deaths in Syria occurred in 3 incidents, and Sarin Gas was the suspected chemical agent used in each of these 3 incidents. Sarin is also blamed for 586 of the 1,145 injuries attributed to all CW use in Syria. See the above image for details.

A word about Chlorine

Scarcely a week goes by that we don't hear fresh allegations of Assad's forces using Chlorine as a Chemical Weapon -- usually, it is said, dropped as "Barrel Bombs", dropped on innocent civilians from government helicopters.

However, when we see the figures of the effectiveness of chlorine as a Chemical Weapon, we should ask ourselves: Why would they do that?

Reviewing the compiled information on alleged/suspected CW use, Chlorine appears more often than any other suspected agent... but look again at the total casualty figures for Chlorine:

• Total Injuries: Civilian: 312 Combatant: ZERO

• Total Deaths: Civilian: 18 Combatant: ZERO

Chlorine is not much of a "Weapon of War", is it?

Source figures can be seen here

Archive here

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Some have argued that Chemical Weapons have played a significant role in the Syrian Conflict.

Others have argued that SPELLS, HEXES, and VOODOO DOLLS would be every bit as effective as CW's.

The "debate" continues...

EDIT: Tried to fix links and stuff

Man, this is fantastic work. I'm saving this.

Thanks. It's all original content, compiled from the Wiki source page. If there are any errors in calculations, they are mine.

The following are links from a corroborating peer-reviewed article published in The Lancet, showing cause of death among civilians in REBEL HELD territories. Interestingly, they fucked up their math, and I had to fix it, lol!

Screen shot 1:

Screen shot 2:

Annotated and corrected screen shot:

Pie chart putting the Lancet article figures in perspective:

As the sources and methods are different, there are slight variations from the Wiki page numbers used as a source above, but in general, the figures support one another in that they demonstrate the comparatively TRIVIAL relevance of Chemical Weapons -- except in the realm of PROPAGANDA, of course.

There's been a "motorcycle gang" (I shit you not) riding all over the place in Syria lately.

Motorcycles? Uh oh! Did the US exceed its Credit Limit with Toyota?? :)

verywhere they go they try to propagate protests against Assad...reports of chlorine gas being used on civilians soon follow wherever these motorcycles have just been.

Chlorine gas is easy and cheap. Hell, I'd bet that 80% of Redditors have the household chemicals needed to make the cheesy concoctions in their homes, RIGHT NOW.

(The other 20% have disgustingly yellow "whites" in their laundry, and filthy, stained toilets and showers)

Heh! :)

I've been wondering what the us is up to with the uk leading the russian front with there "chemical weapon" that they won't allow to be tested etc and nk pretty much leaving the scene it would make sense they'd launch another coup attempt on one of the few oil producers left that won't tow the petrocrat line.

what i don't understand is why we never get to hear from assad or his team? whats their opinion on all this... i know its the fog of war but why can't they get info out in this day and age.

we only ever get to hear the truth after the fact.

of course.. i agree.

but there must be pro syrian groups in the west somewhere no?

uh huh....

i am suspicions of the term "terrorists".. its hard to know which side is which though huh. i wouldn't be surprised if everyone is a cia merc.

or even if its all wag the dog. crazy world

yes of course

yep... i seen that before.

so in syria. its not going well for he anti assad troops? but i think they will just keep at him till he loses methinks... its a proxy war IMO.

part of the greater israhell project. but ultimately its really our governments doing this. or should i just say the NWO for a better term.

i do wonder if it was meant to take this long on purpose so they could really fuck the place up.. or did something go wrong?