jesuits control free masons. good luck. you'll probably just be serving bad pot roast at golf outings. you'll retire with a mason car sticker which may get you out of a ticket.

The Catholic Church will ex-communicate you if you join the Free Masons. Highly doubt they’re controlled by Jesuits.

no they wont. free masons believe in creator. fits with babylon creation.

Being Catholic AND a Freemason is redundant. You can think of Freemasonry as being the Protestant arm of the Catholic Church.

LOL. I read that the Jesuits funded the First Revolutionary war, and that is why the Vatican owns us to this day.

Oh, Jesus Christ. You people and your ignorance about the Jesuits. The Freemasons were at one point an openly anti-Catholic fraternity, which led the Church (1) to make it an ex communicable offense for a Catholic to join the Freemasons; and (2) to create the Knights of Columbus, which is a Catholic fraternal organization akin to the Freemasons. The Jesuit Order is not only a Catholic order of priests, but historically the redheaded step-child of the Catholic Church because (1) they believe that educating the masses is a good thing; and (2) they don’t unhesitatingly take the knee to Rome. Contrary to what Jack Chick and Malachi Martin may have told you, they’re not Rome’s secret paramilitary world domination black ops group, they aren’t Satinists, and everyone who graduated from a Jesuit high school or university isn’t a Jesuit.

Ad maiorem Dei gloriam

For the Greater Glory of God

Jesuits are thus sometimes referred to colloquially as "God's soldiers",[5] "God's marines",[6] or "the Company", which evolved from references to Ignatius' history as a soldier and the society's commitment to accepting orders anywhere and to endure any conditions.[7] The society participated in the Counter-Reformation and, later, in the implementation of the Second Vatican Council.

http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

Jack Chick and Malachi Martin have no purpose in the order. interesting choice of names you gave though. are you jewish by any chance?

Don't the Jesuits play both sides regardless of what team they are playing on? As long as the long term work helps the end goal/ pope everyone and everything is fare game, so I've read. Makes sense to infiltrate your enemy. But what do I know? I'm just a pleb..

Levels. It's about levels. At the lower peon levels - where you'll likely join, start off, and never actually get past or go above - everything will seem copasetic. At the deeper levels, at the top of the pyramid, so to speak, things get a lot stranger and quite a bit muddier.

A good portion of the upper figures responsible for the things talked about in this documentary are connected and linked to and associated with Freemasonry.

Think about that for a bit before doing anything further.

Manly P. Hall and Albert Pike give very many explanations.

It's all about symbolism. The reason you hear about the illuminati and stuff is because it allows for good connections. And thus these actual Saturn worshipers, A.k.a. Satanists, use these top connections to do as they please.

Also, look into the symbols. There is a lot of evidence pointing to Saturn worship in Freemasonry as well. Like the symbols originating with Saturn worship.

There are documentaries on YouTube about it.

Well stated by both above. ^ Masons are Jesuit, they do pray to God but not the same God as Christians. Not satanists but Worship Lucifer. There is a distinctive difference. I would join a different organization myself but your call. Best of luck.

It's as simple as this : people are afraid of the unknown. The freemasonry are not satanic, just secretive

Why are Freemasons secretive?

The “illumined” worship Lucifer/Satan who they believe brought the “light” of knowledge of good and evil to mankind to “free” them from God.

Jefferson wrote his own Bible.

Masons require you to, more generically than believing in God, believe in a “supreme being”. This is represented by “The Great Architect of the Universe”. An architect takes existing materials and builds from them. I don’t believe Masons believe in a creator God. Satan/Lucifer cannot create like God can. In the highest degrees of at least the Scottish Rite, based on Masonic writings, it is revealed that Lucifer is the object of their worship.

Masons are not allowed to speak about their religious beliefs in the lodge according to an interview with a Mason that I saw.

Bill Cooper, a true patriot and expert in Freemasonry, believed that the founding fathers were members of secret societies like Freemasonry. He believed that America was set up by them to be the “Great Experiment” to test whether the “profane” could rule themselves. Given what is happening today, it seems we are too ready to sacrifice our liberties for “protection” from our government. Granted, the “illumined” have meddled with and been in our government from its inception.

I strongly urge you to not become a Mason. At the very least, educate yourself on Freemasonry first:

https://youtu.be/fJiuDJQpGyI

"Satanism is the only thing that will drive me away." Are you joining for the pedophilia?

My understanding is that it has been infiltrated, and it is not what it once was. I am being generous here because it probably was always evil. I say this because I researched their symbolism, and that says it all.

Police break up 'drug-fueled orgy' at Masonic Lodge after finding women dancing naked on stage and men filming sex acts:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408655/Police-break-drug-fueled-orgy-Masonic-Lodge-finding-women-dancing-naked-stage-men-filming-sex-acts.html

Battle Creek Masons apologize for 'sex party' at Masonic Lodge; say rental policy under review

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2013/09/battle_creek_masons_apologize.html

Now ask yourself. Why would Masons allow someone to rent their lodge to strangers when that is where they keep all their secrets? Something isn't adding up here...

Human Trafficking:

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-mnd-0_12-cv-00301/pdf/USCOURTS-mnd-0_12-cv-00301-0.pdf

Prostitution, embezzlement allegations fly in lawsuits involving Clio-based Shriners organization:

http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/06/prostitution_embezzlement_alle.html

Jailed Jesters: Retired New York Judge Sentenced for Transporting Prostitutes Across State Lines:

https://jonathanturley.org/2009/08/08/jailed-jesters-retired-new-york-judge-sentenced-for-transporting-prostitutes-across-state-lines/

Jester Confesses to Wife He Organized Prostitutes

http://freemasonrywatch.org/freemason.jester.wife.confesses.prostitutes.html

Freemasons Watch Prostitutes Dance at the Temple

https://youtu.be/u2WuJ8xKwg4

Who Are The Royal Order of Jesters?

https://medium.com/@HeapingHelping/who-are-the-royal-order-of-jesters-55ffe6f6acea

I could go on, but you get the picture...

Also, consider this. The only reason an organization has secrets is because they have a hidden agenda. If Freemasonry was benign, then they would not need to have any secrets...

Look up the meaning of a pig-in-a-poke, because that is exactly what Freemasonry is. They offer you a prize, and you agree to accept it before you know what the prize is.

The Great Secret is that you agree to worship Lucifer before you realize that that is what you agreed to! Tada!!

Jazz Hands:

https://youtu.be/PcYFNaIWTwE?t=7

The law of Cain

So they're devil worshipping pedofiles / Illuminati? This right here is why I don't take freemason conspiracy theories seriously. This is coming from a nut job who lives off conspiracy theories.

Then join and see for yourself. Please get back to us in a few years, though. Lol.

From your response, I think you are the perfect candidate for them. That is not a compliment.

Good luck!

If you really want some straight answers go to r/Freemasonry and ask... I'm a mason and a shriner, never heard any talk of satan.

But then again I'm just a low level, know nothing drone; a pawn in a game controlled by masonic boogeymen at the "higher levels"..... at least that's what most everyone here, who has probably never been to a lodge, will tell you ;)

Worst advice ever. LOL. Don't ask a Freemason because they are allowed to lie to non-Freemasons, and they will.

If you are a Shriner, then you were asked to spit on a Chrisitan Cross at some point during your initiation. Did you or didn't you?

Being a Shriner is low level? Now I think that you are lying already.

You ignore the links I provided, too, which is very telling.

There's one objective truth, no point in labeling the truth with names like Christianity or Satanism. IMO it's early for you to join a esoteric club you have to pay to be part of, read books on your own time and increase your knowledge like that, when you know you'll need a teacher you don't have to ask, just that you have to ask tells me you're not ready.

There's nothing 'very' special to expect after lot of spiritual practice in the way you imagine it is, it's special to implement your thoughts/what you've learned into action and to heal not just yourself but to bring good to everything around you. Think why Pagans love nature and animals so much, why Jesus said pray in your own home you don't need a church and the deadly sins,

Try not to think about unattainable/sensational goals or things you expect to gain from spirituality like heaven, hell, meeting entities or whatever. Religion's turned into cultic brainwashing techniques, just realize your thoughts shape your reality, your reality includes other beings.

To create a heaven we have to give back more to society/nature than what we take or at least not abuse it/to be able to handle one's karma responsibly, think why governments treat society like babies. It's about creating a better world, they don't want us to realize our own power, don't constantly seek for something amazing to happen outside yourself, understand things that are either so controlled or so vague are much more definite and malleable than you think, join a esoteric club or any social club if you need it for whatever reason/s just make sure you need it before going into it without undefined expectations and it's right for you, you need at least 3 people to create a functional group I'd say no to Freemasonry but that's just me.

Here's a quote (not my words!!!) about Freemasonry.. interpret it however you'd like..

We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. One of the many triumphs of our Freemansonry is that those Gentiles who become members of our Lodges, shoud never suspect that we are using them to build their own jails, upon whose terraces we shall erect the throne of our unversal King of the Jews; and should never know that we are commanding them to forge the chains of their own servility to our future King of the World"-- Opening speech made at the B'nai B'rith convention in Paris

“Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"

• 33rd Freemason degree Albert Pike's Morals & Dogma

Don’t

Oh and if you are black dont forget about the Nation of Islam

Yakub (sometimes spelled Yacub or Yaqub) is a figure in the beliefs of the Nation of Islam (NOI). According to their beliefs, Yakub was a black scientist who lived "6,600 years ago" and began the creation of the white race.

Another satanic cult

The costume the stupid rituals the gay old men, the threat of death, ya go ahead join it sounds like lots of fun.

Understand that it's not Satanism, it's Luciferianism. If you're concerned about Satanism, stay away from Luciferianism, too.

[Mason here]

No, we aren't Satanic, at all. I suggest you read up on the 'Taxil Hoax' where most of this BS originates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax

Drop by /r/freemasonry if you have any questions. If you prefer a book I recommend [Seriously, I am not trolling] 'Freemasons for Dummies', but Christopher Hodapp.

Liar!!! Yes you are. Tell the OP that Freemasons are allowed to lie to non-Freemasons.

Look at the links I posted above.

r/freemasonry -

They will lie to non-Freemasons, and you know it.

You cannot say Jesus in the meetings. You can use the bible but have to remove Jesus's name. There is your answer.

You can also spit on the crucifix as a test to see if you will "level up. " You can choose not to spit on it but you just get held back in the lower degrees with no chance of moving up.

If u want to fuck children and fuck over every other human being for wealth. Join.

Well said. LOL. I wish more people knew this. Freemasonry is completely evil. Don't be fooled?

he/she would never be able to get in, they would never recruit someone who has no wealth or property.

They need cannon fodder, too.

If you are not flawed, then they have no way to blackmail you. I think they would find you very uninteresting.

I don't mean "you" as in YOU personally. I am generalizing.

They need cannon fodder, too.

If you are not flawed, then they have no way to blackmail you. I think they would find you very uninteresting.

I don't mean "you" as in YOU personally. I am generalizing.