"Remote Viewing" of Ancient Civilizations
6 2018-04-12 by LosJones
Greetings!
I decided to make this post after I shared some of these threads from Godlike Productions in the /r/conspiracy roundtable about ancient civilizations. The OP of these threads was somebody posting under the name Alterwelt.
Alterwelts first post on GLP was on 11/24/2014, and was followed by two more posts over the years.
I also believe that there was another account from him, or the same group of people he was involved with under the account "Außenseiter".
Here is Alterwelts opening comment from his first post.
Greetins.
I come from Germany. My introduction maybe somewhat lacking but i'm not a great fan of lying to people so here's what i have to share.
No personal details nor details of any sort.
I'm an employee in an educational facility of sorts. Together with my co-workers we're engaged in what ypu'd call remote viewing with a specific goal of targetting and describing ancient civilizations.
The goal itself is to provide our benefactors with crucial information, technological and historical artifacts and whatever data might be useful commercially or otherwise.
On a fun night we've decided to provide our initiative with a little leak.
You may ask whatever you want concerning old history and ancient civilizations, historical or beyond. If its covered by our work you will get an answer, if not then no.
Sumer, Babylon and beyond, ask away, someone will log in every day for an hour or so to answer those questions.
Here are the thread links
Alterwelt Thread #1 Alterwelt Thread #2 Alterwelt Thread #3
Then I found this one thread which seems to be very similar but from a different OP
It's some really interesting stuff, and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did.
78 comments
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
SS: Alterwelt from Godlike Productions claims that he and his colleagues (?) can see events from history that are radically different than what we have been taught.
Who he is, or how he does it is a mystery.
1 Workmask 2018-04-12
I just stumbled upon these threads yesterday and spent hours reading them. Unfortunately "Alterwelt" is very vague about how he gets his information (Sort of got Bad 'Q' vibes) but his answers are very much inline with the research I've been doing about ancient history for the last couple years which leads me to believe it's not 100% bullshit.
However, I wish more about his method and research techniques could be shared, I don't see a reason for the secrecy.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
I agree that it's frustrating to not know where his answers are coming from. Either way it's a really interesting read.
1 LurkPro3000 2018-04-12
What are your thoughts on Natural Law?
1 PackaBowllio28 2018-04-12
Probably because he did that exact same research
1 ShillAttractant5 2018-04-12
What's the difference between remote viewing and imagining?
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
If he's just making it up, it's still awesome. Like someone said in the roundtable here on /r/conspiracy, I want to believe!
1 PsyHun 2018-04-12
viewing is to watch vs imagining is to create.
1 legalize-drugs 2018-04-12
Good answer, PsyHun.
1 tastygoods 2018-04-12
Yet they both use the same “screen.”
1 PsyHun 2018-04-12
I would say "processor"
1 remington_smooth 2018-04-12
"The goal itself is to provide our benefactors with crucial information, technological and historical artifacts and whatever data might be useful commercially or otherwise."
Since you and I are not the benefactor, there basically is no difference. They are not going to provide us with the location of the hidden artifacts or long lost gold mines that they uncover.
1 PackaBowllio28 2018-04-12
Basically Abstergo Industries from Assassins Creed.
1 Zetterbluntz 2018-04-12
He does reference genetic memories
1 legalize-drugs 2018-04-12
Remote viewing is real, at least I believe it after taking the time to check the subject out. There's a group here in Boulder, the Farsight Institute, which is entirely devoted to remote viewing. Check them out: http://farsight.org/
1 Balrogz14 2018-04-12
Boulder has a lot of...interesting things going on there. Doesn’t mean they’re all legit.
1 legalize-drugs 2018-04-12
No, and I'm not going to vouch 100% for this guy Courtney Brown from Farsight Institute, but I've listened to interviews with him, and he doesn't come off as a quack. I wish you would check out his web site. On remote viewing- Ingo Swann and some others have me thinking it's legit. Worth looking into, at least.
1 freelywheely 2018-04-12
Ingo Swann's book about remote viewing of the far side of the Moon for a private third party is fantastic especially with his revelation of TPTB's biggest fear - the rest of us discovering we're all innately telepathic
1 Kendle_C 2018-04-12
Sorry I don't agree to contracts with 16 bullets to read some speculative crap.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
That's fine. Have a good day!
1 Tolkin_Dermy 2018-04-12
I recently read through the entirety of that thread and around 115-120 pages he comes out that it’s a joke to fuck with people. How naive people are and how it was an elaborate joke. He got the information from the author, Philip Coppens.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
I don't recall seeing that, but I'd be interested to check it out if you can link to it.
1 Workmask 2018-04-12
Can you link that? Even if it's a joke, a lot of what he is saying lines up with tons of archaeological evidence and common theories/knowledge.
1 Tolkin_Dermy 2018-04-12
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2702754/pg118
A single guy with a bad case of flu and completely bored can fuck with people's minds for 118 pages. I'm so proud of myself - OP
I don’t doubt his knowledge capacities, but from page 118 and beyond, he openly states he fucked with everybody.
I believe the author the users found had direct correlation with what he was posting.
1 DarthStem 2018-04-12
Thank you for posting the other threads! I devorured the first one the last couple days. This is the stuff this sub needs.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
I'm glad you enjoyed it! The first time I saw it my mind was blown.
I really want to try and put it together into a sort of timeline, considering the format it's in. Maybe when I get more time I can try to put it all together for an easier read.
1 DarthStem 2018-04-12
Its really interesting to see how a lot of this lines up with what Graham Hancock has been saying. Especially with how he has been getting more and more vindicated as time has gone on.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
Yeah it definitely is. I actually got to meet Graham Hancock a couple years ago. He was a really nice guy.
Alterwelt is interesting because he takes Hancock's ideas a whole step further by saying there have been several high points of civilization, while Graham is doing everything he can just to get people to accept we aren't the first.
1 DarthStem 2018-04-12
I would love to meet him. I would choose Graham over any celeb.
His saying of "were a species with amnesia" has always rung true to me. The social and economic changes would be crazy if his view points ever get taken as academic fact.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
I completely agree. It would rewrite our entire history of the human race. I grew up being taught that everything really kicked off for humanity with the discovery of agriculture in the fertile crescent.
After reading Grahams books and then countless hours of independent research, what I find most fascinating is the massive correlation between flood mythology.
I found this book about flood myths in a used bookstore a while back, and it is fascinating how prevalent flood mythology is all over the world.
If Graham was correct about the sudden and unexpected world wide flood, it would certainly account for all these myths. I also love to read how these myths speak of how they tried to survive the flood.
Many cultures speak of going to much higher ground to wait it out, while others ran to cave systems or "into the earth".
Another factor to the flood mythology lining up with Graham Hancocks research is the matter of the massive smoke plume created by a meteor breaking up across a massive ice sheet. These myths describe the blocking out of the sun, which in itself would be more than enough to really fuck up any well off civilization.
I've got a lot of ideas to discuss and bounce off people, which is why I'm so happy that other people are willing to discuss it here. I find that when I try to discuss this with someone not already exposed to these theories is very difficult as it really forces someone to completely reconsider everything they've been taught about the history of humanity.
1 DarthStem 2018-04-12
I always thought it was interesting seeing all the good myths out there and seeing actual scientific evidence from soil deposits all across the world corroborate the myth. This is why I believe in the ancient aliens mythology too. Too many stories from so many cutkures so far apart that are similar.
This subject is one of my favorite along with UFO'S, there is more to our history that what we have been told or that we even know. Like.graham says, we're a species with amnesia.
I wish we could learn more about the atlanteian/hyperborean/lumerian civilizations of they did exist. It would be fascinating.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
I think that the more accepted the theory becomes in mainstream research, the more we will learn about it.
Once it becomes more accepted that this isn't the first high point of civilization, research will get more money behind it and we should start to learn some incredible stuff.
1 HauryDoing 2018-04-12
The answer is really are remarkably clean, concise, and coherent! Thank you for sharing back in the round table.
1 mgahan 2018-04-12
i've always found this declassified document on Mars remote viewing interesting for the same reasons.
What intrigues me the most about this one, is that the US military only deals with real shit as far as i can tell. And if someone came to them (or you or me), claiming to have these abilities, wouldn't it be really damn easy to prove they were faking it? like, have Bob go into the room and ask the remote viewer, "how many fingers is he holding up?" or give them an address half way across the world and tell them to describe the building. interesting indeed.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-04-12
During the Cold War there was heavy disinfo going on, and one tactic of that could be to convince the USSR that we had an army ‘psychics’ to deter them.
1 SocraticMethHead 2018-04-12
Also like the scene in men who stare at goats.
"The Russians are researching psychics"
"Why?"
"Because they think we are."
"So?"
"So now we have to research psychics in case it's real."
1 Anarchist16 2018-04-12
I still gotta watch that movie man
1 dystopian_love 2018-04-12
Wtf there is no middle possibility where remote viewing exists but the Army is releasing disinformation about what was discovered?
1 Tolkin_Dermy 2018-04-12
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2702754/pg118
A single guy with a bad case of flu and completely bored can fuck with people's minds for 118 pages. I'm so proud of myself - OP
I don’t doubt his knowledge capacities, but from page 118 and beyond, he openly states he fucked with everybody.
I believe the author the users found had direct correlation with what he was posting.
1 Ieuan1996 2018-04-12
Yeah, the first red flag for me was when he said the are no aliens (there are), and then the nail on the coffin was him admitting that he'd never heard of Ingo Swann.
1 dystopian_love 2018-04-12
Aliens don't exist. The Fermi Paradox is only a paradox when you insist on making false assumptions about the universe.
1 Ieuan1996 2018-04-12
Explain please? Do you think earth is the only inhabited planet in the universe?
1 dystopian_love 2018-04-12
NASA and all other space agencies are liars.
1 Ieuan1996 2018-04-12
Yes, that's true. And Nasa say there's no aliens, so therefore, by your logic, aliens exist.
1 dystopian_love 2018-04-12
Lmao "NASA said there's no aliens" is wrong
1 Ieuan1996 2018-04-12
When did they announce the discovery of alien life? I must have missed that
1 dystopian_love 2018-04-12
Oh sorry, I didn't realize you could only accept official announcements as evidence.
1 Ieuan1996 2018-04-12
Are you arguing for our against aliens now? Because you're contradicting yourself. First you said aliens don't exist, then you said that Nasa has already announced alien life, now you're saying... I dunno!
Troll harder.
1 dystopian_love 2018-04-12
In case your limited brain capacity prevents you from remembering, I started my argument by claiming NASA and all other space agencies are liars. So if their endeavors result in a "confirmation" that alien life exists, I would question that assertion. It seems like they are heading in that direction, doesn't it? Or do you need help with understanding extrapolation?
1 WeeklyOracle 2018-04-12
can you do more than be cryptic? It's not helpful.
1 gaslightlinux 2018-04-12
Isn't GLP known to me compromised?
1 HumbleInitiate 2018-04-12
Yes, it is. Was perma banned because I asked for a source
1 Honey_Badgerette 2018-04-12
Yes. That forum is an evil snakepit. It shouldn't be linked to here, IMO.
1 Balrogz14 2018-04-12
Certainly interesting and fun to imagine. But it seems pretty bullshit that some guy’s imagination is leading people to think he’s telling the truth.
1 Pidjesus 2018-04-12
It's an incredible thread[s], I read every single question and answer and whilst there's 0 proof they're spouting the truth it's still incredibly fascinating.
1 vivek31 2018-04-12
Nice post. They were talking briefly about this last night on coast2coast.
1 jsncrs 2018-04-12
Anyone else getting an error message when clicking those links? Says GLP doesn't allow the use of VPNs but I'm not using one..
1 rougekhmero 2018-04-12
Yeah same. Years ago i used to occasionally visit GLP for a laugh or whatever, but i've been getting this same error message for at least a year now. Never once posted on there and am not using a vpn or anything.
1 g3374r2d2 2018-04-12
Contradiction when reading about elite families not existing.
Directly above it he explains the Hyksos as a group that infiltrated the ruling class....which he claims later doesn’t exist.
I’d presume he’s not completely enlightened. Grain of salt time.
1 T4nkcommander 2018-04-12
Well, the entities that make remote viewing possible are deceivers to their very core, so all that you see during this is pretty much going to be a mix of truth and deceit.
1 TheWiredWorld 2018-04-12
Lol that's retarded. We don't need any entities to remote view. We can do it ourselves. We are powerful.
1 dovahkid 2018-04-12
You're thinking of channelling.
1 cortiman420 2018-04-12
Check out 'analysis and assessment of gateway process' in the cia library..it goes over a phenomenon known as the gateway process...
My friends and I would practice a thing called transcendental meditation and found from that document for the better part of a year until it started to freak us out ha
1 Ieuan1996 2018-04-12
Would you mind explaining a little about those meditation experiences? As in like, what particular technique did you use/did you use the Monroe Tapes/what did you personally experience from the transcendental meditation? Thank you!
1 RocketSurgeon22 2018-04-12
What freaked you out?
1 cortiman420 2018-04-12
Just started having weird thoughts + feelings..and we started to do it with LSD where we tried to replicate some of the "experiments" we were seeing online so that's a big part of it lol..if you wanna know specific details you can pm me though
1 txxp 2018-04-12
It's bullshit. Spies are spying everywhere. Thee end.
1 The_real_rafiki 2018-04-12
Yeah nah, this doesn't line up with what History actually says about Egypt.
1 fortysevenpeace 2018-04-12
What exactly does remote viewing mean? Also we're just supposed to believe this guy? Really enjoyed reading all of it.
1 123asdr123 2018-04-12
does anyone know how to get past the ip ban?
1 Catsarenotreptilians 2018-04-12
"http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2702754/pg118#47672288"
This is OP, "alterwell", its all fake, and your all literally falling for it.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
That's not OP.
1 Catsarenotreptilians 2018-04-12
Same ID as OP, its OP.
1 containerfluid 2018-04-12
Hey, I am reading through the first part of Alterwelt's posts. I did not know there were more posts. Thanks for this.
It is intriguing what he reveals. His ideas make sense in a lot of ways.
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
Yeah they make for a great read.
1 Deathiseven 2018-04-12
the whole thread in 1 txt have fun! https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqcsxewekvrdw9z/Alterwelt.txt?dl=0
1 LosJones 2018-04-12
I don't recall seeing that, but I'd be interested to check it out if you can link to it.
1 Workmask 2018-04-12
Can you link that? Even if it's a joke, a lot of what he is saying lines up with tons of archaeological evidence and common theories/knowledge.