Shit Job: Telemarketing

4  2018-04-23 by RayanThomas

There are two people, twelve years later, whose names, numbers and addresses I could recite for you. I still might kill them some day.

You’re sitting there in a tiny cubicle in a moldy beige room with acoustical tile and you’re separated from a bear sized homeless man with a loud booming voice by what is basically urinal divider. You have a headset on, an old one with one foam earphone and a curly wire going into a battered phone. You are listening to a cavernous hiss. And then it beeps and your back tenses and it’s showtime.

“…. Hello? HELLO!!???!!!”

The person on the other end of the line has been listening to silence and clicks for five seconds. They’re tipped off to what you are. Because the autodialer waits for what it thinks is a human voice to connect you. The person is already pissed off. You have a dumb terminal in front of you. It’s the 21st century but you have a monitor with green block letters on black from the 70’s with what is putatively the person’s name and address, but a lot of times it’s empty or some guy who was about to get fired had put in “Harry Stiffey, 69 Cumshot Drive.”

“HELLO??!???” WHO IS THIS??!!??”

“Good evening sir, is this Mr. Sti– uh, are you the head of the household?”

“WHAT ARE YOU SELLING?”

“I’m not, I’m not selling anything sir, this is DT calling on behalf of the Firefighter Charitable Organization, we’re asking for your support in helping the Fi-”

“PUT ME ON YOUR ‘DO NOT CALL’ LIST AND NEVER EVER CONTACT ME AGAIN” (slam.)

And then the hiss again. Select “DNC” on your dumb terminal. “Do Not Call.” As mandated by law we will mail a mimeograph of our “Do Not Call” Policy to what we think is his address and take him out of the system. Wait for the next beep. If you get five human beings in a row you’re doing all right. The dialer waits until it thinks it hears a person but a lot of the time it’ll give you that three tone disconnect sound ten times in a row. DOO DOO DEEEEHHHH and you have your headset turned all the way up because the fucking old ladies all gargle softly around fifty years worth of Pall Malls and they’re impossible to hear except at top volume. This means the “we’re sorry, the number you’re calling has been disconnected” sound is like sticking your head in one of those horns that a lighthouse blows in the fog. Mark that one as a “Telco.”

Or you get fifteen minutes of no English. We’d call through San Francisco and some number exchanges are nothing but Chinese fresh off the boat, or Chinese who’d been here for years but never got off the boat in their minds, or Chinese who probably spoke English like they were hosting Masterpiece Theatre but had a handy excuse not to talk to us. “WEI? BING WA?” “Do you speak English, ma’am? Are you the head of household? “BING WA YA?”

But these were still better than getting an actual English speaking human being who was head of household. Because they all hate you. Every single person you talk to hates you and thinks you’re a piece of shit and wishes you were dead and even when they’re polite you can feel it. “HELLO???!!!?? HELLO??!!?? “Good evening, this is DT calling on behalf of the Firefighter Charitable Organization, may I speak with the head of household?”

“Do you know you called me DURING DINNER?”

Then don’t answer the phone, you fucking chump. Let the machine get it and savor your fish sticks in peace. “I’m awfully sorry to disturb you sir, but I’ll only need a minute of your time. Would it be better to call back another night?”

“Well, I don’t know. Let me ask you something– WHAT PERCENT OF MY DONATION GOES TO THE ACTUAL CHARITY??”

Stossel had fucked us, right before I got hired. Blown the lid off the whole operation. We called for police and firefighter charities, which sell boiler rooms the right to raise funds in their name. The cops in your town get ten or fifteen grand to help schools or disabled kids or whatever and the company gets eighty grand for the people who own it to buy small airplanes and strippers for wives. The cops know it’s like this. But it’s still more than they’d get sitting in front of Safeway selling cupcakes. And it’s good PR for everyone in town to get a call telling them your friendly police force is dedicated to keeping troubled teens active playing tennis in the Police Athletic League. The company puts on a variety show, or a rodeo, or a charity basketball game or something and what you’re selling is a pack of five tickets to this event for 35 bucks. You can go yourself, but, as the script says, most people opt to donate the tickets so local disadvantaged youth can attend. Lots of the word “youth” getting thrown around, so much that it becomes hard to say. Most people donate the tickets and keep the sticker they think will keep them from getting pulled over.

“Well, sir, after the costs of talent for the show, lighting, renting the venue, postage, phone bills, and paying the fine people such as myself who are out here every day making these calls, there’s a profit of about fifteen per cent left over that goes to the charity. We-”

“I THOUGHT AS MUCH. This is a SCAM. I would like to be put on your Do Not Call list, and have a copy of your Do Not Call policy sent to me–”

“Of course, sir, if you’ll let me confirm your address…”

“WHY ON EARTH WOULD I GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS?”

Stossel had fucked us, and congress had fucked us, because like the day before I started telemarketing they passed a law mandating a Do Not Call registry. You have the legal right to be removed from a telemarketer’s call list and to have proof of this mailed to you. And good old John “The Stache” Stossel had hammered this fact into the minds of every schlub in America in a series of hard hitting investigative pieces that also highlighted what a huge scam every single telemarketing charity is. We were already hated, so much so that a legislative body in America was moved to pass a law making life easier on individual human beings rather than businesses. The only time this has ever happened. We were already somewhere between the Gestapo and NAMBLA in the national esteem and suddenly this Do Not Call law gave everyone magic words to name the demon and Make It Stop. The Do Not Call request was always colored with triumph. Delivered like they’d finally tracked down the murderer of their kids and were finishing him off with a shovel to the head.

Select “DNC.” Wait for the beep.

Meanwhile all around you loud booming voices make sales pitches. People who telemarket are not normal. The guy next to me is homeless. Lives at a campsite by the train tracks. Spends his check on bourbon and then once a week goes over the hill to San Jose to buy hookers. He’s been in San Quentin, in Santa Rita; he once saw a man get his innards cut out and his gut filled with toilet paper and his still warm corpse tossed off a high catwalk to create the effect of streamers. He tells me that a Mexican ain’t nothin but a high yella with an accent. That you can cry all you want in jail but don’t take nothing from nobody. That the Woods shot caller in Rita ain’t too hard. But he’s been doing this so long that he sounds like the Frontline narrator or Walter Cronkite. The booming gravelly baritone and Ivy League diction you want the president to have. When he tells you the streetwalkers are down to fifty bucks for an around the world you can almost hear an orchestra behind him. Later he’ll get arrested for shooting a man in the face with a pellet gun in a bar fight. Looking at life in prison for his record. His own mother will testify against him. He’s a sweet man and does not deserve this.

Down the row an Eastern Orthodox priest. Serbian extraction. He’ll go into a litany of grievances against the Serbs if anything remotely germane to Serbia comes up on smoke break. The Muslims cut off our skins and used them as drums, he says. Later when Wikipedia is invented I learn that he means the Field of Blackbirds, which happened in 1389. The Croats were Nazis! We try to avoid discussing Serbia. Somehow fail, every night.

Behind him a jockey-sized man with cystic acne in a purple velvet coat. Mouth like a muppet. His sales calls rambling off-script improvisations. On smoke break he reveals he was kidnapped by the CIA as a baby. Spent childhood in a prison camp where they injected him every day with LSD, into the spine. Two angels came and told him he was the orphan prince of a galaxy called Lucifer, 666 million light years away. There he vanquished evil on behalf of his subjects. Returned to help the people of Earth. Now the government was on to him. I visited his trailer once. He had a beautiful nineteen year old wife. You just have to believe in yourself.

Everyone was fucked up, everyone had a drug problem or was in recovery or had a record too long and crazy for them to ever have hope of getting another job. So they had to come in night after night and listen to old people sneer that you’d called them during dinner, rack up three bucks a sale.

I got good at it. My voice got deeper. I started booming from the diaphragm. Laughing off their perturbed “hello… hello’s” and connecting with them. Flirt with the old women. Joke with the men. You get on a roll and you get so much confidence going that the person who faithfully watches John Stossel and is ready to give you an earful of Do Not Call just gets hypnotized. You can’t fake this. You can go in with the same meter and the same pitch and the same words but there is something they can smell on you if you’re not confident, if you’re afraid. If you need the three bucks they’ll snarl at you and slam the phone down. But you get hypnotized yourself, when you’re good. You are genuinely connecting with people and gliding seamlessly into the best way you can help is with our ten-pack for three hundred fifty dollars and your voice is saying I am so good at this I don’t need you to buy this, I don’t want you to, I am walking out of here into a gold Rolls Royce bought three dollars at a time and it’s just you and me talking on a lark here; it’s no big deal. If you need something, people will never give it to you. If you are weak, people will never want to help you. People are animals, they are evil, every single thing you ever learned about compassion is a lie and when the end of this filthy soulless sewer of a world comes I will stand outside and dance in the hellfire, the small part of me that was still human was thinking. I am a lying sack of shit selling you a scam but because I sound like I don’t want your money you will give it to me. When you are on that roll you could sell stickers that say “Fuck You Cop Pull Me Over” to the Chief of Police. The substance has nothing to do with it. It’s in your voice.

I became their top salesman. I beat homeless Cronkite and alcoholic priest and a bunch of other guys who’d been in boiler rooms all their adult lives, always for companies with three letter names: BTS productions, CBL productions. Selling the chance to send five retarded kids to the Vaudeville Variety Follies in Oregon and Texas and Arizona. I locked on to something and walked in knowing I would kill and so I did. A woman gave a thousand dollars because she was mad at her husband and I was a man to talk to. A man started out screaming at me out for screwing real charities out of money and when I gave him the voice he calmed down and bought. The old codgers showed me respect. I started to think of myself as a salesman. I can close anything, anyone, I thought. Then some girl would ask “what do you do” in a bar and I would cringe. This was before I knew how to lie to girls. “I’m a telemarketer,” I would say. “Oh fuck, I hate you guys.”

No matter how good you are most of them hate you. Once in a while one of them will get through to whatever tender spot you have left. There are still two people, twelve years later, whose names, numbers and addresses I could recite for you. I’ve taken care to remember because I still might kill them some day. Do you know what a waste of a human life you are, one of them told me. At the time I didn’t. I’ve since been briefed. No matter how good you are, and even if you act like a human being to them, every night there are enough of them being cruel to make you cry. I could stay on the phone with you and make you kill yourself, you think. Or at least tell you to go fuck yourself. But the boss was very clear. They can say these things. You can’t. That’s what a job is. They can say you’re a waste of life and you can’t say fuck off.

If you have a soul, there’s a vessel inside of you that gets filled up with the hate you take in. About a year in it hit the meniscus and I had to quit. I got a job selling ads for a newspaper. The same shit, really, but I was dialing the phone with my own fingers and could tell girls I worked for something they’d heard of.

I remember the lessons that job taught me. Because there are only two jobs in the world: making shit and selling shit. Every white collar job I’ve had since is selling shit. Pick up the phone and ask people for money. Whether they give it depends on what’s in your voice. What’s in your voice depends on if the last guy gave you money.

The world rewards hustlers and liars. People are cruel to the weak whenever there’s a chance. Then they roll over mesmerized for anyone who doesn’t give a fuck. People will trip over themselves to give you anything, as long as you don’t need it. As long as they’re not helping you. Human beings are essentially, irredeemably evil. Every nice thing you’ve ever felt is a flaming crock of shit. If God were righteous we’d have been destroyed long ago. He must instead be an alien mouth who feeds on suffering. On the plus side they had free doughnuts on Saturdays. (copied) https://twitter.com/rayan_k_t https://www.linkedin.com/in/rayankthomas

46 comments

I wasted 30 mins telemarketers time because they called me twice a day for 2 weeks. Don’t call me anymore.

You know only one person is getting paid for that conversation and it ain't you.

Haven’t called me since tho.

You're wrong. People are inherently good.

Why do you think that? I sure dont

When you look at the world and look at the people of this world, you can, either, choose to see the glass half full or half empty. I see the glass half full. OP (and you) see it half empty. It's not a bad thing. I just wish you could see all the good in the world.

The universe will ''check up'' on you for being a delusional retard. This is nothing to do with your view of the world. If I stuffed you in a 3rd world country like half of the globe lives in, you will start seeing your shitty glass completely empty.

delusional retard

Why are you so angry?

Just so you know, I've lived amongst people in a third world country. It was full of good people.

Not the one I'll put you in so you can test your glass experiment and your optimistic ideologies.

Removed. Rule 10

Fair enough!

Do you look at warzones, povertystricken lands, corrupt politics, the meat-industry and so on and see a "glass half full" there? Or do you instead willfully ignore all the bad that so, so, so many people do every single day in order to this half-full glass?

You're still talking about a miniscule portion of the population, so both of your arguments is moot. Let me ask you: when you were born, were you good or evil?

That's quite easy you jump over those points, simply stating they are "moot". Well, Stanford Experiment further proves that average guys are willing to do evil things as long as they feel allowed to by someone with more power than themselves. Go even further, and they did evil things thinking they did no evil. Compassion and morality is such fragile man-made constructs, since there is no inherently good in humanity.

How should a baby know whether it is good or evil? How should I know if I was "born good or evil"?

It is easy to jump over because you're presenting a negligible study in comparison to the 7+ billion people that are on this Earth.

That didn't prove anything. You're still thinking on such a small scale and speaking for literally the billions of other people.

You're born good.

Lets make it more broad then. How many people do you know that willingly support the meat-murder industry every single day? Is it "inherently good" to not care, or even support, that other creatures entire live is suffering?

What do you make of this study? Humans are actually genetically built to become HEALTHIER by hurting other people. Is that also an 'inherently good' trait?

http://time.com/96848/bullying-can-make-a-bully-healthier/

I should have avoided a binary outlook like good/bad- this is not an either/or discussion, it involves a wide differing array of values.

This is a good example of what I said earlier- the article posted above views bullying as good whereas the article below views bullying as bad.

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/12/being-bullied-is-bad-for-your-health/

Your article tackles an exact opposite issue of my article.

BEING bullied is bad for your health.

Being THE BULLY is good for your health.

Now, why would it be good for your health to bully others - it's encoded directly in your genes that "bullying=good" - if we humans were made to be inherently good?

I don't think you're following. It is not my article just another article with a different view illustrating what I discussed earlier- Knowledge is subjective and our worldviews are shaped by a huge spectrum of beliefs/values. It's all relative. 'Inherently good' for one person could be 'inherently bad' for another... anything inherent like a characteristic attribute is molded by the existing framework drawing on values, beliefs, culture etc. and this framework is different for everyone so it is all relative. I don't think modern science has progressed to the point where one can definitively say that a gene expresses itself in this way - "bullying others=good for me". Gene expressions are relative as well.

Of course I know it's not YOUR article....

You are quite avoiding what my article stated. It is a fact of humanity that we are evolved so that BULLYING OTHERS are actually good for our health. If we humans were built 'inherently good', why would it be HEALTHY AND GOOD for you to bully others? There is no "relative" to this, unless you think bullying others is an inherently good human trait.

I was not debating the articles but looking into your article further i don't see a fact, it looks like the formulation of a theory. I think they would need a larger # of participants, 1,420 children does not seem like a substantive size. “It shows the possibility of social interactions for positively affecting a person’s health.” But that is my comprehension of the information, others may comprehend differently because of the different values/beliefs/culture, environmental cues/etc. that are called upon when information becomes knowledge. Knowledge is subjective.

I understand the aim of the article you posted is to illustrate that social status can have lasting effects on health. So in this way the children's health is relative to social status. Heart disease is relative to the level of reactive protein in the children's blood and so on. Speaking in extremes like 'humanity is inherently bad' is a broad generalization that avoids a very very complicated spider web of relative causality. Take the Trolley Dilemma for instance, both outcomes could be considered bad until you account for the relative outcomes.

good/bad duality is relative, what one group of people views as good another group may view as evil. I think that altruism does exist, it is rare and often destructive to those that exhibit it. Knowledge is subjective and our worldviews are shaped by a huge spectrum of beliefs/values. We should work to understand/incorporate differing views.

I try to stay positive but i think people inherently look after their own self interests, those that go out on a limb for others usually get shit on. I used to work in a 3rd party call center, i loved the customers that would shoot the shit about whatever- it was inbound sales so not really cold calling. What really sucks are the 'incentives' that are put in place which punish employees that are generally looking out for the best interest of the customer.

That's true. It's important to look out for your what's best for you, but I think there can be a balance between that and helping others.

I agree with that. Companies are more focused on making money and doing whatever it takes to make that money, usually at the expense of the worker or customer.

People are totally mixed dude...

As someone who has to do over the phone market research surveys, and doesn't event try or want to sell anyone anything. I must say that some people's "good" is buried deep, deeper than the San Mariana trench.

Copied from where? This was a great read.

Agreed

People are not evil. Sorry to hear your soul has been crushed by a shitty job.

Have a donut and chill out.

I loved reading this.

I enjoy wasting a telemarketers time because telemarketers are scum. You annoy people for a living you deserve what you get

I found out after getting the true number on call display or *69, that if i auto redialed the constant busy signal, eventually I would get connected and they thought it was the number they dialed out to. I would say STOP Calling HERE! You just called again!.

idk, it felt good at the time.

Refreshing to read something with a little positivity on a Monday morning!

We get called sometimes 5 times a day by the same number, I'm often woken up by these fucks if I forget to flight mode my phone. I hate fucking call centres and how they think their shit is so important

I take the time to listen to telemarketers. I understand they are just doing a job to put food on the table and don't want to be rude. I'll let them run through their speech and usually say no to whatever it is politely.

But do you know what drives me up the wall? People who call that aren't selling anything or don't actually care to set anyone up with whatever it is they have. I had a call from Bell the other day promoting cell phone packages, I said yes, I'll sign up. Well they hung up on me...so what the fuck are you doing calling me if you don't want to sell me this fine promotion from Bell? So I call Bell to complain, well Bell tells me that is a company unrelated to Bell that called me on behalf of Bell. Bell didn't even care that the company they hired to promote their cell phone packages had no intention of selling any of those packages to people they're calling. Just the call itself is enough for Bell to be happy. Really?

The other one I get a lot is Duct Cleaning Services. Now I live in an apartment, so I don't own any of the duct work in the building. I was getting in the habit of saying this as soon as they called. Some would hang up right away, others would be confused and push on with their speech. I've asked to speak to a supervisor, thinking if I explain that I do not have the right to purchase these services for the building I live in that they will actually take me off the list. I've never spoken to a supervisor there, they always hang up then call back later in the week.

If people are being dicks to you for trying to raise money for a fundraiser, shame on them. But if you get a call once a week from Bell & duct cleaning and they refuse to remove you from their lists I say it's fair game to be a huge asshole to them.

It sounds like you drew your conclusions about the world from the best possible source.

Your screed was essentially devoted to describing why you put yourself in the worst possible place to find happiness...and then you drew your existential conclusions from that experience?

Bad strategy, mate. How bout you put yourself somewhere that doesn't persistently erode your soul, daily, and then reflect and remark on the status of your species. Maybe then you'll notice that good people do exist, meaning the opposite must be true:

Goodness must erode evil over time, or there'd be nothing but evil remaining by now. God knows the past has paid enough suffering forward that we're all swimming in it, yet persist we do.

I enjoy your writing style. It felt like reading Fight Club or something similar. Keep writing. You could have a really good screenplay on your hands there.

Same the op definitely put his soul into that post. Much respect to him for being brutally honest.

felt the exact same way.

Or just get a better job you whiny little piece of shit

Ill go ahead and take this as a synchronicity. I turned down a telemarketing job for a way better city job and start today. Thank you. I will not sell.

Terrifically written, fun to read and humorously insightful. Book material, right there.

This has nothing to do with a conspiracy, but I loved the writing, like a Tom Waits song come to life.

you've got a great voice there. If you're not already writing for a living, you could be.

thanks for story.

Take a valium.

This was my first "real" job after high school in 1996. I did the exact same thing. Worked for a company called "CDG - Civic Development Group" based out of NJ. They had centers in every town up and down the east coast. They recruited new operators with signs and cards and referral bonuses. Thing was they started you out around $8.00/hr and had 3 shifts a day 7 days a week. You could mostly pick your schedule and make decent money (then) for a kid with no other job prospects who knew how to use a computer and talk to people on the phone. But this was the late 90s when most people still had a home landline phone and would bother to answer it. So many things I could say about this, but thank you for posting. Its interesting to know that that job is still out there.