Climate change, learn who's driving it.

Hint: it's not man

2nd hint: Learn to read the sun

There was a lot of solar winds last weekend causing an increase in quakes and seismic activity

As for why it's not talked about, well, I don't know, perhaps they don't want to talk about what's coming or something

There's a bunch of cosmic cycles coming to an end soon and we're due for that magnetic pole flip

we're in for some rough weather most likely

Suspicious 0bservers are great to get the view from someone who actually understands the whole reading the sun thing haha

I understand the basics of it and can follow along but wouldn't be able to make a reading and predict an earthquake lol

That being said I think the zone in the US they were worried about was a fault line bordering california or something. They had a couple scenarios where they think there could be a lot of damage and lots of flooding but who knows really

As far as Yellowstone becoming active again, let's hope not but like you said everything is connected so better be safe than sorry imo

Hint: it's not man

Incorrect. There has been a vast amount of research on the topic, and virtually all of it disagrees with you.

"97% of scientists agree with the data!"

Man is not the main driver of climate change

The sun is, he's responsible for cycles

So you're saying that the people who actually know what they're talking about all agree, and that's supposed to mean they're wrong?

The sun is the source of energy on our planet, not the primary source of climate change. Climate change is largely caused by man, not the suns' "cycles."

what about climate change before man was on the planet?

Where do you think all the heat that drives the climate comes from?

I acknowledged that already.

Can you please specify climate change ? Warming or cooling ? Because it used to be global warming. Now you can claim it all on man. So let’s make a call here and now. Cooling or warming ?

Seems to me you guys have had to change your language to suit your needs. Next it’ll be the oceans ate all our co2. What like thy are meant to ?

Cooking or warming ?

Ice age baby!!!

Great piece from John Casey, former NASA engineer and author of Not by Fire but by Ice, speaking about the fact of increased volcanism do to solar cycles as we head into the next ice age...

https://youtu.be/QxGBoTLzrOk

John Casey is a great one to follow. Though he can be a little dramatic

This is what I am feeling! There is a lot of talk about a massive solar flare and the magnetic pole flip. The earth is literally feeling it.

There's a lot on earth that directly effects the weather, but people often forget that the solar system is an overarching system that the earth is part of. Changes in the Earth's climate might not come as often from the sun as they do from local factors, but when they do occur there's really not much that we can do from down here that will change it.
Sure, humans have fucked south the co2 levels in the Earth's atmosphere. Maybe the sun is either reacting to this, or it knew this was going to occur and plans to basically flush the illness from the earth. Humans; earth; the sun... It's a system. They're all working together. We might not see it from our perspective, but they are.

I like you're post. I love how it doesn't conform with the old tired. argument. Its common sense that cars, factories, and deforestation is increasing the co2 in the air, but common sense from humans is biased and filled with human perceptions.

The sun does have a lot to do with earth's environment , and it shouldn't be discounted.

Furthermore I'm not saying that man doesn't have an impact on CO2 levels and a bunch of other stuff, but if you factor in all parameters, the main driver is the sun, and in comparison, man isn't making much budge in a global sense

However we should definitely reduce our waste of ressources and change to greener tech like cold fusion or zero point energy but that requires defeating the cabal first

Solar flares and earthquakes are not related in any way my dude

Solar flares != solar winds

Try again

Ok. Solar winds and earthquakes are not related in any way my dude. Where do you get your information?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWEn5JZ22dk

There's a bunch of papers briefly shown in the vid, if you wish, you can go right ahead and read each of them

tl;dw: the science community has been split on this subject but they are now coming to terms with reality

I agree with you. You would think this would be all over the news.

no kidding. Some of the footage I have seen has been mind blowing, like a lake of fire rolling through like water. I saw a parked car get overtaken and you had to wonder, what about homes and towns.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hawaii/comments/8gwmq8/meta_big_island_volcanic_activity_megathread/

interesting thread

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My family and i had traveled to Oahu last week. I had friends asking if i was okay, i being in hawaii for 2 days at that point, listening to their radio, watching their pbs had NO idea what they were taking about. Found out from the mainland news that the volcano was getting very active. I was there for 6 days and heard/saw very little about the volcano. The big island is known to have active volcanos, it seemed like a bigger deal to the mainland then it did to the people living on the islands..

Wow.

Imagine if it came up through a homes basement

Like you did to OP's mom

Nobody wants to talk about to Hilina Slump and the massive amounts of damage it can cause across the Pacific.

It could be epic and devastating like the 2011 earthquake in Japan.

Worse. The projections are topping out around a 1,600ft wave. Minimum of 4 miles inland. That's bonkers. 2011 Japan was only a 10 meter wave, approximately 30ft.

According to the simulation I watched it would be a 300m wave hitting the islands of Hawaii, and a 30M or 100FT wave hitting the whole of the western seaboard of the US and Canada etc.

300m is about 900ft high.

300m is closer to 1000ft since there are 3.28ft in a meter, which is massive. According to that video anyway, they would only be that big around the islands, by the time it reaches the west coast it says a 30m/100' run up. Still massive though, and still dwarfing 2011.

Where ya'll gettin' them there projections?

Google the Hilina slump and there are lots of articles about it.

There's nothing anyone can really do but clean up the mess. I can't even imagine how many millions would need to be evacuated if they found out for sure it was going to fall/ slide...

I agree to some extent. Just tired of reading about similar topics like melting ice caps every day when shit like this is happening.

Yeah man, I feel you...

They probably wouldn't even tell us until it happened.

Hilina Slump

I kind of wish someone (unless anyone knows) would make a computer model video about how this would go down, I was trying to figure it out about where all the land would come from but it seems really confusing.

Good find! I was wondering too. For any curious, it would produce approximately a 900ft wave that would hit the west coast at 90ft. Goddamn.

They should change the name to something catchy... like “Hilina Death Slide” or “Hilina Death Vortex”.

Lots of great YouTube channels documenting unprecidented earth changes. Mrmmbb333, evolutionary energy arts, duchinsense, etc.

The Ring of Fire is a major area in the basin of the Pacific Ocean where many earthquakes and volcanic eruptions occur. In a 40,000 km (25,000 mi) horseshoe shape, it is associated with a nearly continuous series of oceanic trenches, volcanic arcs, and volcanic belts and plate movements. It has 452 volcanoes (more than 75% of the world's active and dormant volcanoes).[1] The Ring of Fire is sometimes called the circum-Pacific belt.

About 90%[2] of the world's earthquakes and 81%[3] of the world's largest earthquakes occur along the Ring of Fire. The next most seismically active region (5–6% of earthquakes and 17% of the world's largest earthquakes) is the Alpide belt, which extends from Java to the northern Atlantic Ocean via the Himalayas and southern Europe.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire

Hawaii is outside the ring of fire. There are four types of volcanoes. The type we are seeing in Hawaii is called a "hot spot." Believe it or not, these are the least dangerous types of volcanoes. But as you can see, they are pretty amazing.

As you can imagine, a serious volcano is something truly amazing. 75,000 years ago, a "supervolcano" erupted in the Southeast on Samatra, the most active volcanic region in the world. This thing was so huge it almost ended human life. Some remained and repopulated the Earth eventually.

It is strange that there are so many fissures blowing out in Hawaii. I'm not too worried yet, but keep watching just in case.

The chain of islands was created by these volcanoes. There is a "hot spot" under the Earth's crust with a huge magma chamber that occasionally pops as the crust moves at a rate of approximately an inch a year. Over time, you get a chain of islands.

I did research on these in undergrad, have a 30 page or so report, but new research suggests that mantle plumes likely dont exist.

Huge fixed lava plumes have never been proven to exists, and no 2 mantle plumes exhibit the exact same characteristics.

The new alternative theory is that plates thin in the middle from being push and pulled in so many various directions that water (volatiles) mix with magma and form what we call "Hotspots" but rather should be called "wet spots".

Thank you! I thought I was up to date but things are being revised so quickly. I will check that out some more.

It's showing even for me, no down votes.

My guess would be if you live next to a volcano and it erupts that's not really news, kinda expected ya know.

A cat 1 hurricane would not be news. It's only national news if there is massive destruction.

There are currently less than 40 structures destroyed/damaged. Almost all of them homes. The repair bill in still only in the tens of millions. A somewhat major quake (two people died) near where I live caused around a billion dollars damage and that even was in the news for all of a week. The only ongoing coverage was the fact a major road got closed via a slip that took a while to clear.

What is happening to those people is really tragic, but in terms of affecting the US it's pretty much nothing.

At local levels, a cat 1 hurricane or even the potential, the media portrays dooms day level of shit to get everyone worked up or in reality to get people out to spend money on a potential bit of wind, shit's crazy. A good way to stimulate a local economy while getting people to part with their hard earned money.

Shit man, we get the news stirring people up around here when there’s like 6 inches of snow. Usually the news will say “HOLYFUCKINGSHIT THE STORM OF THE CENTURY IS COMING OMG 60 INCHES OF SNOW IMMINENT!!!11!!!1one!!!eleven!1!”

Then everybody goes and buys all the milk in town and we end up getting 6 inches.

But I think that’s local or regional. News from Hawaii is so far removed from here that it’s like “Oh yeah, I guess some people’s houses were hit by lava?? That kinda sucks.”

It just doesn’t make good doom porn though.

11!!!

11!!! = 880

1!

1! = 1

News yes, headline news no.

You don't hear much about hurricanes and earthquakes unless a lot of people die.

No. Where I live we had a small earthquake a few weeks ago, no national news coverage because no one died.

You asked for opinions on why it isn't getting national news coverage and I gave you mine. But personally I think it should get a little more coverage.

I wasn't comparing the two, I was proving you wrong.

You said: (sarcastically) That hurricanes and earthquakes aren't covered in the news because they're expected.

I said: They are only covered if a lot of people die.

You said: That's not true hurricanes were reported all last season.

I said: Where I live had a earthquake and it wasn't covered by the national news because no one died, thus proving my point that not every natural disaster is covered by the news.

Why are you arguing? I obviously don't really care about this, and I agree it should probably get more news coverage.

No I successfully proved you wrong.

My point was that only natural disasters where a lot of people die get national news coverage.

Again you asked for opinions on why it isn't getting national news coverage and I gave you my opinion on why. That doesn't mean I agree with it.

I feel like I'm arguing with a wall that has down syndrome and this could go on forever so, I'm right, you're wrong, and we both agree it should get more news coverage. Have a good one!

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It's not in the billions yet though. There are less that 40 buildings destroyed, with most of those homes. That's like 40 million at the most and that it's being insanely generous. Then you the roading and plumbing to be fixed. It's not yet billions and that's why it's not major major news everyday. If was when it started but it's not doing much in the grand scheme of things.

I think because people choose to build homes near the most active volcanao in the world thats it was just expected. I'm watching the videos and news articles but its not really a shocker.

Apologies, i was not trying to say it was not a big deal, but its about being desensitised to such things. I live in a town that floods every year so it barely makes the news any more :(

that was my thought, how often do lava flows destroy homes there? I know other comments I gathered is that there are a few zones lava insurance isnt even available there because its so likely to erupt or damage homes in the area/zone.

It's like hurricanes in FL...we know they are going to come. They come through and it's over...although Irma did much more damage than everyone was made to believe...especially in the Florida Keys. It was pretty ugly.

ABC News interviewed a resident of that community and the anchors tried to sensationalize the situation by calling it “dire times”. The guy corrected the anchors and said it’s not dire, I knew what I was getting into when I bought this house and fully expected this to happen at some point, plus lava moves at like 2 meters an hour so we’re good.

He was a cool cat. Make it seem like this didn’t come as a shock to the residents

Michael Rivero talks about it on his (excellent!) news radio show. It's pretty bad, and has damaged or destroyed several dozen houses. FFWDed to the relevant part:

• What Really Happened: Mike Rivero Monday 5/7/18: Today's News Talk Show

Also, dutchsince is predicting a very large earthquake sometime in this week near Japan and/or west coast US:

• 5/6/18 10pm earthquake update dutchsinse - Very large earthquake forecast

I, for one, think this will get worse, much worse, as the Solar system passes from an area of lower energy ("Kali Yuga") to one of higher energy as it spirals closer to the center of the galaxy in the 25,920 year Great Year cycle.

• Yuga Cycles, Growing Earth, And The Sirius Connection

Awesome links. This is fascinating.

I've watched as the news went from "Cool! The volcano is fInAlLy ErUpTiNg!!!" to "Residents worrying about potential damage" to "Experts don't know when lava will stop; 36 structures destroyed"

It's just getting worse and worse. They're drawing it out to lessen the panic

what i want to know is why they aren't digging a huge trench to divert the lava like they did in that volcano movie. cause you know that the insurance companies are doing everything they can to deny the property damage claims.

cause you know that the insurance companies are doing everything they can to deny the property damage claims.

it's like a huge "fuck you" to everyone affected.

Oh yes and unfortunately many of the young new residents who pioneered out there. Are just finding out that vaseline is need for the butt fuck job that is happening.

I read somewhere that USGS has been told to be hush hush because they don't want people panicking and cause more chaos. I'll try to go find the source I read that from.

No they routinely inform Civil Defense to provide info to residents in a constant basis. This island is the most lab studied Volcano isles by USGS and news is constant here locally, and in Oahu.

I did research on these in undergrad (geology), wrote a 30 page or so report on mantle plumes, but new research suggests that mantle plumes likely dont exist.

One of my college TA's was super intesterested and had email conversations with one of the lead scientists working to prove this. He gave me alot of my talking points.

Huge fixed lava plumes have never been proven to exists, and no 2 mantle plumes exhibit the exact same characteristics.

The new alternative theory is that plates thin in the middle from being push and pulled in so many various directions that water (volatiles) mix with magma and form what we call "Hotspots" but rather should be called "wet spots".

But yeah no super earthquake is going to happen, there is no plate boundary, and as far as violent eruptions, very not likely either considering mantle plumes diffuse lava slowly for millions of years.

The crust is thin here, so water meeting hot rock actually helps create magma and lava flows, the fact that so much is diffusing should mean that there is no eruption as the pressure is being relieved.

earth's gonna earth bro. get out of the way and watch from a distance!

I mean, I don’t even watch the news and I knew about it.

Most of this island is not permanently inhabited and is a nature preserve. It is the big active volcano and it has been technically erupting for like 35 years.

I think it is an awesome spectacle, but nothing surprising. I think people just are shunning the sob-story articles trying to draw some emotional clickbait, because most people know better. People who moved to the island with the intentions of living there knew the risks or were just naive. It sucks they might lose their stuff, but they built their house on an already erupting volcano.

The only reason I can think of is maybe because it's going slowly plus so far no one's been physically hurt yet and it's only material damage?

(This is just a theory about why it might not be bigger news and not something I personally agree with. It should've already been on front pages)

I was in Hawaii a few years ago on the big island and hiked all around the center of what was the caldera a few decades ago. It was pretty crazy to see that there were huge patches that basically looked like the moon. No vegetation at all. There was also a place on the other side of the island that was basically a lava field from the highest point all the way to the sea.

Point is, this is not really big crazy news for Hawaiians I think. It’s just something they’ve more or less always lived with.

I'm actually curious as to whether or not the earthquakes in Hawaii and the ones in Alaska could potentially cause any changes to earthquakes/ fault lines in California. Due to the lava coming out of the Earth as well as the possibility of more changes that may occur soon.

The whole region from S. America up to Alaska, Japan, Hawaii, other pacific volcanic isles is called the Pacific Ring of Fire for good reason, It is all connected by plates under the ocean. As one shifts down under another plate sliding up from the seafloor. Anther is doing the same somewhere else in the Pacific waters. Just opposite rising above the seafloor as well. Causing all the Eq's ,Volcanic activity and tsunamis.

Sorry, I probably should've been a little bit clearer, I meant if it would make the fault line more unstable and capable of creating the devastating earthquake that California is "due for".

HAARP

FFS I live here.It is PTSD for the residents being under siege and losing their homes and pets. Rest of the island is fine including the outer isles. Now go suck on some SO2 fumes and see how you feel.

What are you even on about? This has nothing to do with my comment . The volcano is HAARP related . Sorry you guys got hit by it

WTF brah. The volcanoes on Big Island alone sit over a magma pool, and gradually over eons move Northwest. Lava has been spewing for millions of years here. Long before your little HAARP existed. Get over yourself. Go to school, and learn some volcanology, and quit arguing with a lava junkie who lives on Big Isle, and studies his Volcanoes that I live with day after freaking day...

I think it's mostly affecting a few neighborhoods. I did a FB instant messages with a girl that I know there and she said she's on the island but not in a neighborhood that's being affected.

because hawai is the main NSA hub to spy on china + russia and all other asian country.

can't have to much eyes there

It seems to me that the situation is much worse than the news is making it out to be. What are your thoughts on this topic? Are any of you currently in Hawaii and have witnessed this first hand?

Yes, My main home is in Kamuela, Hawaii, but my second home to which my daughter lives in. Is 4 miles away in Hawaiian Beaches subdivision. It is bad as over 35 homes are destroyed, and the Sulfur dioxide gas which can turn into sulfuric acid in your lungs makes it hard for residents to return to their home. It is all unpredictable. Seers hours the lava erupting out of fssures subsided. Then they let the residents go back for more belongings, Then poof they start up again with more fissures opening. I causes stress, and many residents are now starting to show signs of PTSD. Plus now all the roads in the area are cracking open so wide you can;t drive over them in many areas.

However though aas tragic as it seems. I built my first bome in Kalapana subdivision in early 80's. Only to watch it burst into flames, and overrun with lava along with 330 other residents. Mark my words. Though in a lull for the past 24 hours. This is not over as Halemaumau crater ;ava pond once full to the brom on top of Kilauea has now drop way below the surface. The magma is gong into the tube system out toward the fissures.

Edit2: over 400 views and yet only 7 upvotes, not sure why this is being downvoted and looked over

People and the media in the mainland really never gave a flying fuck about Hawaii. Kauai got 50 inches of rain in one day, and 120 inches in a week and basically flooded out everywhere. Hit with Hurricane Iniki a a week after Hurricane Andrew in the past as well, and the press gives 20 seconds of coverage compared to hours of coverage with hurricane Andrew. They only perk up when it is a volcano erupting.

No. Where I live we had a small earthquake a few weeks ago, no national news coverage because no one died.

You asked for opinions on why it isn't getting national news coverage and I gave you mine. But personally I think it should get a little more coverage.

It's not in the billions yet though. There are less that 40 buildings destroyed, with most of those homes. That's like 40 million at the most and that it's being insanely generous. Then you the roading and plumbing to be fixed. It's not yet billions and that's why it's not major major news everyday. If was when it started but it's not doing much in the grand scheme of things.

Furthermore I'm not saying that man doesn't have an impact on CO2 levels and a bunch of other stuff, but if you factor in all parameters, the main driver is the sun, and in comparison, man isn't making much budge in a global sense

However we should definitely reduce our waste of ressources and change to greener tech like cold fusion or zero point energy but that requires defeating the cabal first

The whole region from S. America up to Alaska, Japan, Hawaii, other pacific volcanic isles is called the Pacific Ring of Fire for good reason, It is all connected by plates under the ocean. As one shifts down under another plate sliding up from the seafloor. Anther is doing the same somewhere else in the Pacific waters. Just opposite rising above the seafloor as well. Causing all the Eq's ,Volcanic activity and tsunamis.