even propaganda can have value in seeing what narratives the various factions are trying to promote.

Do you deny zero hedge is right wing propaganda? Yes or no

dismissing a source as propaganda without demonstrating why the information itself is incorrect is intellectually lazy. Try harder

Please follow your own "meta" rules. There's nothing lazy about discussing propaganda in a (wink wink) open source investigation. Why not start from scratch? Using right wing propaganda is not open sourcing an investigation.

I don't have to try hard to show zero hedge is right wing propaganda- zero hedge does that for us all.

Willful ignorance isn't an excuse to dismiss someone as intellectually lazy

Some of the false or dubious claims Zero Hedge has indulged in together with those websites include:

promoting forged documents from 4chan targeting then-French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron;

pushing conspiracy theories that the white supremacist gathering in Charlottesville, VA, consisted of paid actors and that the organizer was actually a liberal spy;

suggesting that the Clintons murdered a former Haitian government official;

claiming former Attorney General Loretta Lynch was “busted” for secretly using an alias to communicate with DOJ officials, despite her action being both precedented in government and already public knowledge.

saying anti-Trump protesters were bused into cities after the 2016 election.

claiming that the Defense Department was organizing a “national blackout” drill on the day anti-fascist group antifa was supposedly planning to hold a violent protest (it wasn’t);

pushing a conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama was secretly behind a Hawaii federal judge’s ruling that blocked President Donald Trump’s Muslim ban;

claiming that 4chan had made up what is now known as the “pee tape” portion of the Trump dossier; and

suggesting that a Bernie Sanders activist had been murdered in some kind of coverup.

Additionally, Zero Hedge has pushed multiple false stories from fake news website YourNewsWire and from fake news website True Pundit. It also pushed the conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate, and repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories surrounding slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

So they posted a few stories that you categorize as alt-right since thr 2016 elections. How many articles do they post a day? How much of that kind of content makes up its total published base?

Additionally, Zero Hedge has pushed multiple false stories from fake news website YourNewsWire and from fake news website True Pundit. It also pushed the conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate, and repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories surrounding slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

That ain't a few, that's a pattern of propaganda.

As celine says to me on their thread - try harder

Additionally, **Zero Hedge has pushed multiple false stories from fake news website YourNewsWire and from fake news website True Pundit.

This doesn't make it alt right propaganda.

It also pushed the conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate, and repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories surrounding slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.**

This doesn't make it alt right propaganda. Maybe a website peddling to conspiracy theory enthusists... but that's it.

That ain't a few, that's a pattern of propaganda.

I am actually convinced at this point that you don't know what propaganda is.

I feel the same about commondreams.org and wsws.org

Yo. You want teachers to have to sell their hair to be able to afford groceries? What kind of monster are you???

The best kind, a capitalist monster.

At least wsws didn't carry the HRC/Corporatist water for them. They are Left but they're real Left.

I've seen some hideous things on wsws. Globalist nonsense. Not my ticket, so I don't care to hear a diatribe of defense about it. But your not wrong, just different Masters.

I'm not seeking to argue either. I don't religiously read WSWS but the times I have they've spoken some good shit. I'm genuinely curious what globalist propaganda you've seen them push- perhaps it is just a difference in each of our personal definitions of globalist propaganda.

Feel free to take your time to find an example, and if you don't want to respond you don't have to- like I said, I'm not here to defend them or argue either, just have a dialogue and ask a genuine question :)

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8iny3r/back_to_the_19th_century_trump_administration/dytdecj/

r/syriancivil war. good place to start.

everything i saw today started with israel firing artillery at the outskirts of damascus. the rockets on the golan were in retaliation directed at the artillery that launched the attack, then israel justified the cruise missiles and bombings saying they were retaliating.

Israel was the aggressor from the very fucking beginning and have been attacking syria/ iranians for years inside of syria.

frankly tel aviv deserves every fucking missile they get.

what would happen, hypothetically, if you were born in the USA as an American citizen and you actually said that in a public? I'll repeat it for the word filter skimmer bots;

"what if Israel deserves these missiles being slammed into them?"

would you be arrested? ostracized? blacklisted? is that an okay thing to believe there? You can say "those fukken ragheads deserve every missile they get" and get applause but is it now okay when you turn it around?

thankfully i dont live there, but yeah fairly likely.

Probably classified under a hate crime as anti-semitism. Although if you're with a friendly group you can possibly get away with it, you'll be reviled and viewed as anti-American though (Puritanical City on the Hill defending The Promised Land, because we're totally not trying to follow Revelation)

Just saw images of 2 Israeli spike missile tails found in Syria

https://mobile.twitter.com/yarinah1/status/994489992830386176

This is a fire and forget anti tank weapons system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_(missile)

Pro Assad fighters pro-regime fighters

Syrian Arab Army, the national army of the Syrian state.

Thanks for pointing that out. For a guy like me who hasn't followed Syria daily it can be confusing with the way they all try and label themselves as the "true" Syrian force.

Lol of course the media can make them out to be whoever they want. I wonder if someone attacked an American base and killed 23 soldiers the media would say "23 pro-Trump" or "pro-American" fighters died.

Israel is scum. Media is scum. You should follow r/syriancivilwar it is a very complex situation but u can learn very quick on there.

The Syrian government has basically ended the civil war. All rebels are surrending. So at thay same time Trump pulls out of the deal and Israel begins attacking. Interesting time I would say.

Bingo. That was a major propaganda move, the "official" labeling of "Assad's regime forces". Like uhhhh ya mean Syria you fucking NWO fucks?

There's that fucking number again...

As I slit the goyim’s throat, they jerked their head and my finger got cut. Oh, how they persecute me so!

Hail Eris.

stupid question, but why don't we let this two to go at it until they can't any longer and finally resolve why they are fighting?

because it's not fair when the US will resupply the Israelis forever.

what in this world is fair, m8?

nothing involving Israel is fair.

Israel always cries out in pain as they mass murder.

As I slit the goyim’s throat, they jerked their head and my finger got cut. Oh, how they persecute me so!!

Removed. Rule 4

Like my 3 year old kid saying "ouch" when i didn't even touch them lol.

zero Hedge has a good article

http://www.propornot.com/2016/10/zero-hedge.html

Is that supposed to remove all credibility from whatever outlet they feature? Who runs propornot?

Did you look at the article he posted? Because it looks pretty straight forward... like they're reporting on the situation the thread is about.

Oh.. looks like its a real article and everybody is covering it. Does that mean Zero Hedge's story is fake? If they run the story 20 minutes before CNN, Should I wait for CNN?

Next time you question narratives it's best to not show your right wing bias!

who runs propornot zerohedge?

hows that? If I recall propornot came out of nowhere.... and I seem to recall them pushing some bullshit when they first came out.

Is the zerohedge article 'fake'?

Does CNN cover the timeline of israeli escalations? or do they make it seem like innocent ol' israel is over there minding their business when suddenly after weeks of putting out propaganda to prepare the masses, sure enough here comes iran attacking them..?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/washington-post-blacklist-story-is-shameful-disgusting-w452543

"'Forget also that the group offered zero concrete evidence of coordination with Russian intelligence agencies, even offering this remarkable disclaimer about its analytic methods:""

This article is about their coming out party and their questionable motives & credibility.

Seems they could have been part of the dnc scheme to push russiagate.

Removed. No Meta.

Zero hedge is propaganda.

Removed. No Meta.

In addition, shill or troll accusations may be used if and only if evidence can be provided and personal attacks are not used.

That's two so far. This shouldn't be hard.

I called a specific print source propaganda.

Yep. And your word means nothing at this point unless you can back it up.

These tactics do not work in this thread.

Consider this a friendly final warning ;)

Some of the false or dubious claims Zero Hedge has indulged in together with those websites include:

promoting forged documents from 4chan targeting then-French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron;

pushing conspiracy theories that the white supremacist gathering in Charlottesville, VA, consisted of paid actors and that the organizer was actually a liberal spy;

suggesting that the Clintons murdered a former Haitian government official;

claiming former Attorney General Loretta Lynch was “busted” for secretly using an alias to communicate with DOJ officials, despite her action being both precedented in government and already public knowledge.

saying anti-Trump protesters were bused into cities after the 2016 election.

claiming that the Defense Department was organizing a “national blackout” drill on the day anti-fascist group antifa was supposedly planning to hold a violent protest (it wasn’t);

pushing a conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama was secretly behind a Hawaii federal judge’s ruling that blocked President Donald Trump’s Muslim ban;

claiming that 4chan had made up what is now known as the “pee tape” portion of the Trump dossier; and

suggesting that a Bernie Sanders activist had been murdered in some kind of coverup.

Additionally, Zero Hedge has pushed multiple false stories from fake news website YourNewsWire and from fake news website True Pundit. It also pushed the conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate, and repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories surrounding slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

Tyler Durden ain't a source either, so let's focus on zero hedge. After all, that's why I brought it up!

There can't be a truly open source discussion without discussing the sources.

is that supposed to remove all credibility from whatever outlet they feature?

Yes.

So their article about the situation is false? But CNNs about the exact same story is true?

Some of the false or dubious claims Zero Hedge has indulged in together with those websites include:

promoting forged documents from 4chan targeting then-French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron;

pushing conspiracy theories that the white supremacist gathering in Charlottesville, VA, consisted of paid actors and that the organizer was actually a liberal spy;

suggesting that the Clintons murdered a former Haitian government official;

claiming former Attorney General Loretta Lynch was “busted” for secretly using an alias to communicate with DOJ officials, despite her action being both precedented in government and already public knowledge.

saying anti-Trump protesters were bused into cities after the 2016 election.

claiming that the Defense Department was organizing a “national blackout” drill on the day anti-fascist group antifa was supposedly planning to hold a violent protest (it wasn’t);

pushing a conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama was secretly behind a Hawaii federal judge’s ruling that blocked President Donald Trump’s Muslim ban;

claiming that 4chan had made up what is now known as the “pee tape” portion of the Trump dossier; and

suggesting that a Bernie Sanders activist had been murdered in some kind of coverup.

Additionally, Zero Hedge has pushed multiple false stories from fake news website YourNewsWire and from fake news website True Pundit. It also pushed the conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate, and repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories surrounding slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

Zero hedge -

Some of the false or dubious claims Zero Hedge has indulged in together with those websites include:

promoting forged documents from 4chan targeting then-French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron;

pushing conspiracy theories that the white supremacist gathering in Charlottesville, VA, consisted of paid actors and that the organizer was actually a liberal spy;

suggesting that the Clintons murdered a former Haitian government official;

claiming former Attorney General Loretta Lynch was “busted” for secretly using an alias to communicate with DOJ officials, despite her action being both precedented in government and already public knowledge.

saying anti-Trump protesters were bused into cities after the 2016 election.

claiming that the Defense Department was organizing a “national blackout” drill on the day anti-fascist group antifa was supposedly planning to hold a violent protest (it wasn’t);

pushing a conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama was secretly behind a Hawaii federal judge’s ruling that blocked President Donald Trump’s Muslim ban;

claiming that 4chan had made up what is now known as the “pee tape” portion of the Trump dossier; and

suggesting that a Bernie Sanders activist had been murdered in some kind of coverup.

Additionally, Zero Hedge has pushed multiple false stories from fake news website YourNewsWire and from fake news website True Pundit. It also pushed the conspiracy theory known as Pizzagate, and repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories surrounding slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

Who runs www.propornot.com? It seems their domain registrant is privacy protected...

Who runs zero hedge?

Start at the beginning to figure out the propaganda!

So far, I've not seen any credible or independent verification that Iranian forces fired rockets into the Golan - all the news reports state "Israeli claims...", and in fact most of the western mainstream have seriously downplayed these claims - so they don't believe the Israelis either.

This aggressive move by Israel was totally predictable. In fact, I predicted yesterday, hours before it happened, even naming Golan as the target site for Israel's False Flag gambit:

http://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8i83fj/prelude_to_a_false_flag_syria_blames_israel_for/

Reminder: The sites supposedly struck by the impotent rockets that Israel claims were fired by Iranian forces were not in Israel, but in the Golan Heights, which continues to be internationally recognized as part of Syria, though it has been Occupied and colonized by the Zionist Regime since the Six-Day War in 1967.

Additionally, I thought this Guardian article was interesting:

Trump’s rejection of Iran nuclear deal may be Israel’s dream moment

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/10/trump-iran-nuclear-deal-israel-syria

Israel's "Dream", the world's nightmare.

In fact, I predicted yesterday, hours before it happened, even naming Golan as the target site for Israel's False Flag gambit:

Snap! https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8hzuce/israel_is_talking_up_the_bogus_threat_of_an/

100% false flag lies by Israel. They tried to bait the U.S. into war, that failed, and now they are D.I.Y.ing the whole thing. Too bad Russia is to pussy to cure back

Snap!

No clairvoyance required. Anyone who has been watching this scenario evolve and unfold could have (and should have) foreseen it.

What happens next? Likely False Flag Stage 2: "Iranians" (wink wink) will likely attack United States assets - either on (illegal) US bases in Syria, or possibly against US ships in the Strait of Hormuz, the Persian Gulf or the Gulf of Oman (think USS Liberty, 1967).

Difference: No one was killed or injured in the False Flag attack on the Golan Heights - but when US assets are hit, expect casualties. Why? Because the Zionist bastards know that if the blood of our boys is spilled, the US public will be st00pid enough to go into Full Jingoist Retard Mode: Logic and reason will be "Trumped" by emotion and ego... the enraged Peasants would not only support an all-out military assault on those "rag-headded heathans" in Iran and Syria, they would demand it.

Finally, another less likely possibility (god forbid) would be an "Iranian Terrorist Attack" (wink wink) on civilian infrastructure on US soil - think of 9-11.

Let's hope I'm wrong this time.

Too bad Russia is to pussy to fire back

Remember, that is exactly what Israel wants. This whole thing is a provocation to war.

IMO the smartest thing Iran, Syria and Russia can do right now is not respond, except purely defensively against direct attacks, and only over Syrian (or Iranian) airspace. Any retaliation over Israeli or Israel-occupied territories would have them fall into the Zionist trap.

Meanwhile, Russia, Iran and Syria need to stay calm, keep cool heads and use minimal hostile rhetoric. They need to coolly tell the world exactly what Israel and its Zionist lackeys in the US are up to, and WE need to do all WE can to help them get that message out (God knows the Zionist-controlled MSM will be parroting the lies of the Zionist hawks).

The only way that those Israel is attacking can win this game is not to play. That would expose Israel's dirty hand better than any other option. A lack of belligerent response will either force Israel to de-escalate, or force them into hitting U.S. targets with a major False Flag event -- and the latter, if exposed, would be the undoing of the Zionist Monster and its stranglehold over Western governments.

Good luck, and may God bless.

Remember, that is exactly what Israel wants. This whole thing is a provocation to war.

Yeah I know, but it still makes no fucking sense why Israel would want WW3

really? i guess you're not to up on the zionists religious beliefs.

for zionists starting armageddon is a wet dream, because it means the return of the saviour and the jews acceptance in to heaven while the rest of us goyim get left on earth to suffer.

We don't need to make sense of it, we only need to prevent it. I don't think it's possible to stop but more power to those who want to try.

Actually israel doesn't only want to take land but wants to be the ruling state in the world on top of the U. S That's why israel wants to destroy the U. S

It's known for a fact that there are three periods

Britannica Americana Judiaca

Britannica a day would pass within a year Americana a day would pass as a month And Judiaca a week would pass as a day

Judiaca is when israel becomes the ruling state in the world Altho it's very sad imagine the amount of corruption it's way way worse than any of the two periods and america has done alot of corruption and damage already

just imagine israel a country which follows the talmud which qualifies anyone non jewish as a goy or a lesser being It's said that it's time would be bad enough that god would take away blessing from everything including time itself that's why time is shortening And the reason for that is they are cursed so once they become a ruling state they curse everything else with it

That's why WW3 is important to israel once it plays victim and attacks iran and topples iran Aside and destroy muslims worldwide The Judiaca era would start i think

Watch this channel on youtube called Seek Daily

It will help (muslims are trying to explain what's going on with the world)

I don't think Israel wants to start WW3, rather, I think the Zionists are aggressive, demanding, impudent spoiled brats that believes they are special, "Chosen", if you will... and think they have the "God Given Right" to do and get what they want - and will resort to any means necessary, however reckless, to get their way.

Chutzpah.

It's not WW3 they want, it's the ability to beat back their muslim neighbors and steal more land. And the idiotic Americans are going to help them do it. If we weren't lending them so much military aid, they would have to use gasp diplomacy to survive.

maybe because their are parts of the zionist/evangelical club that think triggering wwIII kicks off Armageddon and their Savior returning?

still gotta take over the temple mount, and rebuild the temple to finish their religion nutjobs bingo card.

the latter, if exposed, would be the undoing of the Zionist Monster and its stranglehold over Western governments.

If another false flag attack on US soil happened, I wish what you just said here would be right. However, we haven't done shit about 911. What would make you think another ff attack wouldn't go the same way and have the same "Israel had nothing to do with it!" result?

It may, and I may be overly optimistic, but I would like to THINK that we, broader society, have learned a lesson or two WRT putting too much blind faith in government, MSM, and "authority figures".

So many lies have been told and exposed since 9-11, and not a single government or political party, US or elsewhere, has come through unscathed.

The internet and Social media has been a great source of enlightenment, but at our core, we remain the same gullible, reactionary creatures that we always were, so yes, we are still vulnerable to the malicious influence of propaganda.

Our best hope is that we can achieve a critical mass - DETERMINED, FEARLESS AND VOCAL - with enough inertia to overcome the onslaught of accusatory naysayers wagging their crooked fingers while dripping crocodile tears.

I would like to THINK that we, broader society, have learned a lesson or two WRT putting too much blind faith in government, MSM, and "authority figures".

I would like to think so as well. However, too many people still don’t connect the dots between government manipulation and the MSM, and they are therefore generally ignorant of the manipulation the MSM has upon how they think. A lot of people may not trust the government, but then they’ll turn on the tv, swallow everything some MSM pundits tell them to think, and then wonder why it is they’re letting the government and the deep state off the hook for crimes they commit.

So many lies have been told and exposed since 9-11, and not a single government or political party, US or elsewhere, has come through unscathed.

Agreed, but not too many if any MSM sources have given any of those truths too much airtime - so a lot of people still consider the absolutely overwhelming amount of valid 911 truth showing it to be an inside job perpetrated by the US deep state/government/Israel/Saudi Arabia to be “fringe information that may or may not be true.”

The internet and Social media has been a great source of enlightenment

Correct. It is because of the internet that so many have been woken up. This is, of course, why TPTB want to shut it tf down.

Fuck them.

but at our core, we remain the same gullible, reactionary creatures that we always were

Well, although a great deal of us are gullible and reactionary, I’d say that a good portion of the reason we’re like that is not so much because it’s somehow inherent in us, but because we’ve been indoctrinated through covert manipulated from birth to be that way.

This fucker was definitely a big part of the problem (1, 2), but knowing your enemy helps combat the manipulation.

Our best hope is that we can achieve a critical mass - DETERMINED, FEARLESS AND VOCAL - with enough inertia to overcome the onslaught of accusatory naysayers wagging their crooked fingers while dripping crocodile tears.

Correct and agreed. Those of us that have some information should therefore disseminate it as much and as often as possible so as to contribute to that critical mass awakening.

Didn't Netanyahu just travel to Russia to meet Putin. I wonder what came out of that. The Reuters article makes it seem like Putin is okay with this. The article also mentions that Lieberman reminded Russia they hold no sanctions against them for Crimea. I'm wondering if this is like a tic for tac meeting or something.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel-russia/russia-unlikely-to-limit-israeli-actions-in-syria-netanyahu-idUSKBN1IA2UA

A lot of string are being pulled.

Trump backed out of the Nuclear deal.

Net and Yahoo does the dog and pony show with leaks.

Meeting with Putin

Direct air strike on Iranian interests in Syria

Didn't Netanyahu just travel to Russia to meet Putin? I wonder what came out of that? The Reuters article makes it seem like Putin is okay with this.

That was the spin that Netanyahu put on the meeting. The Kremlin has not yet commented.

Putin has always been something of a wild-card in this game. He is certainly no Boy Scout, but he is not stupid, and is no doubt wise to the games that the Zionists are playing here. He has been a victim of their False Flag ploys himself (Skripal poisoning incident) and has called out several other F.F.'s regarding the alleged CW attacks in Syria.

I feel sure that Putin does not want direct confrontation with Israel or its "Body Guard" (the US), let alone WW3, and I suspect he is going to play his cards close to the vest, and allow Netanyahu and his Zionist Minions enough rope to hang themselves.

He seems to have a talent for keeping a cool head and avoiding rash decisions and bellicose rhetoric, and so far, it has served him well. I hope he will advise the leaders of Iran and Syria to do likewise.

Snap!

No clairvoyance required. Anyone who has been watching this scenario evolve and unfold could have (and should have) foreseen it.

What happens next? Likely False Flag Stage 2: "Iranians" (wink wink) will likely attack United States assets - either on (illegal) US bases in Syria, or possibly against US ships in the Strait of Hormuz, the Persian Gulf or the Gulf of Oman (think USS Liberty, 1967).

Difference: No one was killed or injured in the False Flag attack on the Golan Heights - but when US assets are hit, expect casualties. Why? Because the Zionist bastards know that if the blood of our boys is spilled, the US public will be st00pid enough to go into Full Jingoist Retard Mode: Logic and reason will be "Trumped" by emotion and ego... the enraged Peasants would not only support an all-out military assault on those "rag-headded heathans" in Iran and Syria, they would demand it.

Finally, another less likely possibility (god forbid) would be an "Iranian Terrorist Attack" (wink wink) on civilian infrastructure on US soil - think of 9-11.

Let's hope I'm wrong this time.

i hope you are too. but the realist in me said same thing.

do we have any ships near syria or iran? that would be my first concern, US boats don't seem to do so well near israeli waters....

It's interesting how all the pieces are just falling into place. Somebody predicted this happening just a few days ago.

Am I right in saying that this all boils down to Syria being in the way of Saudi arabia's pipeline? Saudi arabia wants to build a pipeline to fuel europe to replace russia as the source of oil, and russia wants assad to remain so this pipeline does not get constructed?

I find news of what happens is very common, but the why is so elusive

That's a theory. IDK though. Greater Israel seems more likely imo.

In the late hours of May 9 2018, Israel struck an Iranian base in Kisweh, Damascus province and fired artillery and mortars at Syrian Army positions in al-Ba’ath City in Quneitra province. This escalated into a large exchange of rockets and artillery fire. This map shows the provinces where military targets were struck in both countries.

Confirmed Israeli strikes have hit al-Hader town in the UNDOF observer zone on the border between Israel and Syria. An Israeli missile also targeted an area southeast of Damascus, though it was shot down by Syrian Air Defense. Quneitra province, home to al-Ba’ath City, was also struck by Israeli mortars and tank shells.

May 2018 Israeli-Syrian Clashes

In turn, the Syrian Army ( *Israel claims they were Iranian forces, Iran denied it) fired (multiple volleys of at least 20 MLRS rockets at four Israeli Defense Forces sites in the Golan Heights, Hazafon district. Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system intercepted “several” of the rockets according to the IDF. Israel claimed the rockets were fired by Iran’s Quds Force (Jerusalem Brigade).

Israel responded to this attack in the early morning of May 10 by firing a barrage of missiles into Syria’s Quneitra province. Missiles also targeted Syrian military sites in Kiswah and Khan Arnabeh. Syrian anti-aircraft guns responded intensely.

UPDATE: IsraelSyria1 Map of targets struck by varying Israeli munitions. This map should not be regarded as comprehensive or complete, as the situation is evolving rapidly. At 3:00 AM Syrian time, another massive round of Israeli cruise missiles struck the 10th Division base, 4th Division base, the Republican Guard command base in Qasioun, military bases in Kiswah, and Douma. Syrian Army artillery responded by shelling Israeli positions in the Golan Heights. There are also reports that Syrian air defenses downed an Israeli cruise missile over Homs province. Three people in Syria have been killed, and two wounded.

The current bombing is Bibi's ejaculate.

The international community must disavow any and all chemical attacks.

Disgusting, and also disgusting that USA is such a puppet of these god damned lunatics

Well we may just get on with it it’s revelation the beast will mass his forces then God will come & finally finish it. Then who lives it will be a better world 🌍

There is no open source discussion if zero hedge is involved.

Right wing propaganda is right wing propaganda.

I'll keep that one up but I have removed others for the same comment. Your reply saved it for context.

Zero Hedge is "right wing propaganda"? Lol

These Israeli bastards need to get their hands off the world.

Cunts.

I was following it live as it was happening. This was a few of the Intel Twitter Users:

Live Updated Syrian Map of ongoing hostilities.

https://twitter.com/IsraelHatzolah/status/994336979457396737

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/994335933381128192

The spokesperson said that the Israeli army considers it a severe Iranian attack and is preparing for various scenarios. No additional instructions to the home front at present.

A Target Struck by the Syrian missiles inside the Israeli controlled area is The headquarters of the border troops from the units of 9900.

Video of Iranians firing missiles into Israel just minutes ago

BREAKING: Russian S-300 & S-400 defense systems are firing at unknown targets currently.

BREAKING VIDEO: This is a video of Iranian missiles being fired into northern Israel, just moments ago.

BREAKING: Multiple sources are now reporting several huge explosions near Damascus in Syria.

Russian jets now engaging Israeli forces in Golan Heights. Looking for more sources on this one, but if true is a game changer.

Breaking: Regime AA units are actively firing upon a fresh wave of Israeli missiles over Syria.

There are Russians stationed at the 10th, if this is true Israel will get bad News soon enough.

Upwards of 40 rockets have been launched from #Syria at #Israel thus far

And the so now this retaliation of Israels attacks over the last few weeks is going to be used to justify pulling out of the Iranian Deal. Of course!

“We are aware of reports that missiles were launched into #Israel,” a US official said. “If true, this only bolsters our decision to terminate the JCPOA. #Iran will have showed the world it's true intentions. Let there be no doubt.”

Russia unlikely to limit Israeli actions in Syria: Netanyahu

Probably not there yet. But after the Iran drone event, Netanyahu previewed how he might respond to direct attacks. “We will act, if necessary, not just against Iran’s proxies but against Iran itself... Israel will not allow the regime to put a noose of terror around our neck.”

Israeli airstrikes targeting 137 artillery base in #Damascus

Huge explosions heard in northern Israel

Patriot missile system noted active near Safed in the Upper Galilee.

Syrian Air Defense now engaging with enemy targets around Homs city in central Syria

Syrian Live TV

Facebook Livestream of Israeli Bombardment in Damascus.

Note: While Israel begins large-scale public operation against Iran in Syria tonight, next door in Lebanon lies 150,000+ missiles belonging to Hezbollah, waiting to be fired with a simple order from Iran.

UNCONFIRMED Report by a Damascus News Page with over 1.2 Million Likes "Reports that three enemy air crafts were shot down by air defence missiles"

Thanks man! It'll probably be starting up again as night falls so I'll expand this as it happens.

We all appreciate it.

Right on man!

We need some context here- Golan Heights is not part of Israel, as the media wants you to believe. It's legally part of Syria. Even the US admits that.

The United States considers the Golan Heights to be Syrian territory held under Israeli occupation subject to negotiation and Israeli withdrawal. The United States considers the application of Israeli law to the Golan Heights to be a violation of international law, both the Fourth Geneva Convention's prohibition on the acquisition of territory by force and United Nations Security Council Resolution 242.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_497

We should also recognize that one of the drivers for this landgrab is energy resources accessible from the Golan Heights.

In the early 1990s, the Israel National Oil Company (INOC) was granted shaft-sinking permits in the Golan Heights. It estimated a recovery potential of two million barrels of oil, equivalent at the time to $24 million. During the Yitzhak Rabin administration (1992–1995), the permits were suspended as efforts were undertaken to restart peace negotiations between Israel and Syria. In 1996, Benjamin Netanyahu granted preliminary approval to INOC to proceed with oil exploration drilling in the Golan.[177][178][179] INOC began undergoing a process of privatization in 1997, overseen by then-Director of the Government Companies Authority (GCA), Tzipi Livni. During that time, it was decided that INOC's drilling permits would be returned to the state.[180][181] In 2012, National Infrastructure Minister Uzi Landau approved exploratory drilling for oil and natural gas in the Golan.[182] The following year, the Petroleum Council of Israel's Ministry of Energy and Water Resources secretly awarded a drilling license covering half the area of the Golan Heights to a local subsidiary of New Jersey-based Genie Energy Ltd. headed by Effi Eitam

yep...

to add to that:

An influential group is now lobbying Israel’s government to take advantage of the chaos in Syria and demand international recognition of its control of 1,200 square kilometres (460 square miles) on the Golan. The group includes Zvi Hauser, a former cabinet secretary to the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, who has urged that Israel should demand this as a compensation for having to tolerate the nuclear agreement with Iran.

https://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21677597-geologists-israel-think-they-have-found-oilin-very-tricky-territory-black-gold

here's where it gets more interesting when it comes to the grand chessboard:

Washington wants to force a political reconciliation between Netanyahu and Turkey’s Erdogan, including a deal in which Turkey would become a major buyer of Israeli offshore gas, making major purchase agreements from Leviathan. For Washington that would reduce Turkish dependency, today more than 60%, on imports of Russian gas. In return Israel would agree to sell Turkey advanced Israeli military equipment with Washington approval.

First Leviathan. In late 2010 Israel announced discovery of a massive “super-giant” gas field offshore in what it declares is its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). It’s located in what geologists call the Levant or Levantine Basin. The find is some 84 miles west of the Haifa port and three miles deep. They named it Leviathan after the Biblical sea monster. Three Israeli energy companies, led by Delek Energy, in cooperation with the Houston Texas Noble Energy announced initial estimates that the field contained 16 trillion cubic feet of gas—making it the world’s biggest deep-water gas find in a decade. For the first time since creation of the Israeli state in 1948, the country would be self-sufficient in energy and even in a position to become a major gas exporter.

Turkey is a primary nexus for Russian LNG into western europe. As the atlanticists are working to westernize their NATO ally, we risk losing them to Russia.

Turkey is expected to consume about 15.75 billion cubic metres per annum (556 billion cubic feet per annum), the rest of the gas is planned be brought to the Greek–Turkish border to be exported by connecting pipelines to Europe.[13] However, there are concerns that there is not enough capacity to transport this amount from the Greek–Turkish border further to Europe.[14] According to the European Commissioner for Energy Maroš Šefčovič the proposed pipeline exceeds demands of possible customers.[15] The planned follow-on projects to bring Russian gas from TurkStream into Europe include the Tesla Pipeline, to run from Greece to Republic of Macedonia, Serbia and Hungary, ending at the Baumgarten gas hub in Austria;[16] and Eastring, planned to carry gas north via Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia. Early 2016, Gazprom signed a Memorandum of Understanding with DEPA SA for natural gas deliveries to Europe via Interconnector Turkey–Greece–Italy,[17] a southern route to run from Greece to Italy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurkStream

So if erdogan doesn't play ball, and allows the russian pipelines- you can expect ergenekon) and the gulenists to show him the door.

Thanks- i need to put a bit more organizational thought into a post. it's a pretty complex topic with a bunch of moving parts, but Turkey is essential to the geostrategic interests of the east and west, and a major thoroughfare on the world island (silk road). Just collecting the information right now and will let you know when I post something in the next month.

As Germany is banning arms sails to Turkey, Turkey is being armed to the teeth by both the UK and Russia right now, and Erdogan is meeting with Theresa May in London this week

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/28/theresa-may-arrives-turkey-post-brexit-trade-talks/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/world/europe/turkey-russia-missile-deal.html

meanwhile the US is threatening to STOP selling weapons to Erdogan (not over human rights abuses, but because they're buying weapons from Russia)

TURKISH President Recep Erdogan has warned he will “retaliate” if Donald Trump bans the sale of weapons over Ankara’s decision to buy arms from Russia in a deepening row between the two major NATO allies, with the US taking an increasingly robust stance in the conflict.

If the Act was passed, it would see all sales of US defence weaponry to Turkey halted, pending a report on the relationship between the two nations.

Turkish officials have been angered by the plans because they had been negotiating the purchase of Patriot missiles and more than 100 Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Jets with America.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/956168/turkey-usa-donald-trump-russia-weapons-arms-deal

Here's what Brzezinsky said about Turkey in The Grand Chessboard:

Turkey stabilizes the Black Sea region, controls access from it to the Mediterranean Sea, balances Russia in the Caucasus, still offers an antidote to Muslim fundamentalism, and serves as the southern anchor for NATO. A destabilized Turkey would be likely to unleash more violence in the southern Balkans, while facilitating the reimposition of Russian control over the newly independent states of the Caucasus.

Turkey, a postimperial state still in the process of redefining its identity, is pulled in three directions: the modernists would like to see it become a European state and thus look to the west; the Islamists lean in the direction of the Middle East and a Muslim community and thus look to the south; and the historically minded nationalists see in the Turkic peoples of the Caspian Sea basin and Central Asia a new mission for a regionally dominant Turkey and thus look eastward. Each of these perspectives posits a different strategic axis, and the clash between them introduces for the first time since the Kemalist revolution a measure of uncertainty regarding Turkey's regional role.

Moreover, Turkey itself could become at least a partial victim of the region's ethnic conflicts. Although its population of about 65 million is predominantly Turkish, with about 80 percent Turkic stock (though including a variety of Circassians, Albanians, Bosnians, Bulgarians, and Arabs), as much as 20 percent or perhaps even more are Kurdish. Concentrated in the country's eastern regions, the Turkish Kurds have increasingly been drawn into the struggle for national independence waged by the Iraqi and Iranian Kurds. Any internal tensions within Turkey regarding the country's overall direction would doubtless encourage the Kurds to press even more violently for a separate national status

I swear I'm not concern trolling, real question- Isn't it also likely that initial reports can turn out to have been inaccurate? It seems to happen a lot.

Use archive links or screen shots as the Twitter posts get deleted

Iran hitting the International community with a "I dindu nothin" honestly cracked me up.

There isn't really much to investigate, it is well documented that Israel has been attacking Iranian forces the past few weeks unprovoked. Its an obvious ploy to bring Iran into the mix and give America an excuse

Sometimes I just assume things are common knowledge when they are so widely reported.

This is from March 30th --> https://www.yahoo.com/news/missile-strikes-syria-kill-26-mostly-iranian-forces-104520230.html

Another strike on Iranian targets in Syria April 30th -->https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/world/middleeast/strikes-syria-iran-israel.html

Here are details of a more recent attack by Israel. --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKicfZuwj0k

Israel has been attacking targets in Syria with impunity, including Iranian forces.

Hey man just to let you know, you say the first one is March 30 but the link says April 30.

Oh snap, let me correct that, I thought one said March

Here's a tweet from the Syrian MP representing Aleppo responding to CNN repeating Israel's claim that the rockets were fired by Iran: https://twitter.com/ShehabiFares/status/994360524359000064

stating facts is meta?

Okay so I want to take a small step back to the fake chemical attacks and ignore iran.

What if this is just a Arabia spring resistance fighter ploy to get Americans involved in Syria again since Assad seems to be winning?

This article some things I found interesting.. whether all factual or not. Israel is ONLY targeting Iranian assets in Syria for the most part. That Irans Revolutionary Guard is deployed in "Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon"

Something about Iran positioning to attack Israel from "Gaza, Lebanon in Syria" by establishing bases in southern Syria.

And some other stuff, Theirry Meyson seems to go off to left field sometimes

" http://www.voltairenet.org/article201027.html

If the moderate rebels were wise they would launch some more missiles into Israel and have Israel blame Syria and Iran and then you know Israel would attack Syria! Genius!

how dare you vote this shit up! I'm just thinking out loud.

Option B. Hey rebels. how do you feel about another gas attack? Do it and the American's will blame Assad and strike Syrian military positions! Genius.

Israel distorts timeline of events to play victim in the dangerous escalation with Iran and Syria

Israel will not be satisfied until the middle east is wiped clean. If anyone really thinks Iran/ Syria launched rockets into Israeli they're smoking rocks. Israel is instigating all this shit and need to be held accountable....Fuck these Zionist pigs.

its all just a big misunderstanding, the Syrians were just returning some of these. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-army-uncovers-weapon-caches-in-liberated-east-ghouta-town/

Someone posted Israels indepence day is on May 14. Wouldn't be shocked if they staged something to happen on that day.

& this all has happened right when President Trump has pulled out of the Iran deal. If media reports are to be referred, Israeli PM Netanyahu is in good books of Trump. Can we point out the obvious relationship here?

Furthermore, the Golan heights area has been a disputed land since 1967 war. It is to be believed that Israel had annexed it (like Russia did with Crimea).

Can Isreal do anything without this subreddit condemning them. Anything Isreal does I can always count on this sub to call Israel liars and murders.

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They wanna bomb Iran still, take Iran out of the equation to where the stipulations of the "Iran nuclear deal" becomes a non-issue. If the US can get the UN body to nullify the "Iran Nuclear deal" agreed upon in the JCPOA would be something. The US and Israel would like to scuttle the JCPOA agreement some way.

Thanks man! It'll probably be starting up again as night falls so I'll expand this as it happens.

So they posted a few stories that you categorize as alt-right since thr 2016 elections. How many articles do they post a day? How much of that kind of content makes up its total published base?

really? i guess you're not to up on the zionists religious beliefs.

for zionists starting armageddon is a wet dream, because it means the return of the saviour and the jews acceptance in to heaven while the rest of us goyim get left on earth to suffer.

We don't need to make sense of it, we only need to prevent it. I don't think it's possible to stop but more power to those who want to try.

I don't think Israel wants to start WW3, rather, I think the Zionists are aggressive, demanding, impudent spoiled brats that believes they are special, "Chosen", if you will... and think they have the "God Given Right" to do and get what they want - and will resort to any means necessary, however reckless, to get their way.

Chutzpah.

It's not WW3 they want, it's the ability to beat back their muslim neighbors and steal more land. And the idiotic Americans are going to help them do it. If we weren't lending them so much military aid, they would have to use gasp diplomacy to survive.

maybe because their are parts of the zionist/evangelical club that think triggering wwIII kicks off Armageddon and their Savior returning?

still gotta take over the temple mount, and rebuild the temple to finish their religion nutjobs bingo card.

We need some context here- Golan Heights is not part of Israel, as the media wants you to believe. It's legally part of Syria. Even the US admits that.

The United States considers the Golan Heights to be Syrian territory held under Israeli occupation subject to negotiation and Israeli withdrawal. The United States considers the application of Israeli law to the Golan Heights to be a violation of international law, both the Fourth Geneva Convention's prohibition on the acquisition of territory by force and United Nations Security Council Resolution 242.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_497

We should also recognize that one of the drivers for this landgrab is energy resources accessible from the Golan Heights.

In the early 1990s, the Israel National Oil Company (INOC) was granted shaft-sinking permits in the Golan Heights. It estimated a recovery potential of two million barrels of oil, equivalent at the time to $24 million. During the Yitzhak Rabin administration (1992–1995), the permits were suspended as efforts were undertaken to restart peace negotiations between Israel and Syria. In 1996, Benjamin Netanyahu granted preliminary approval to INOC to proceed with oil exploration drilling in the Golan.[177][178][179] INOC began undergoing a process of privatization in 1997, overseen by then-Director of the Government Companies Authority (GCA), Tzipi Livni. During that time, it was decided that INOC's drilling permits would be returned to the state.[180][181] In 2012, National Infrastructure Minister Uzi Landau approved exploratory drilling for oil and natural gas in the Golan.[182] The following year, the Petroleum Council of Israel's Ministry of Energy and Water Resources secretly awarded a drilling license covering half the area of the Golan Heights to a local subsidiary of New Jersey-based Genie Energy Ltd. headed by Effi Eitam

I swear I'm not concern trolling, real question- Isn't it also likely that initial reports can turn out to have been inaccurate? It seems to happen a lot.