Another Las Vegas discrepancy
1 2018-05-12 by PM_ME_UR_MAZDA
If Stephen Paddock was a millionaire and had spent time in several different hotel rooms scouting different venues to massacre, then why would he settle for a shitty bump stock? A man with access to money and the kind of weapons he brought with him could have surely coughed up the $200 ATF license fee for a minigun, rocket launcher, .50 Cal, or really any array of better massacre machines than a relatively puny AR that was not even a true full auto.
Bringing those kinds of concealable, below-the-radar types of guns to a rampage knowing that he would die at the scene makes no sense. Bringing those guns to a clandestine arms deal would make perfect sense.
39 comments
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
Clarification: we should all thank God that he didn’t bring anything deadlier. I’m not suggesting that he “should have” done worse, or that someone that would do such a thing is in any type of relatable state of mind.
1 Putnum 2018-05-12
Yes, God is the reason for less deaths.
1 MelonKing 2018-05-12
Yeah you sure showed him! Using a common phrase like that. What a dick
1 Paprika_Nuts 2018-05-12
It's an expression. Don't get your knickers in a twist.
1 undesirabledesires 2018-05-12
Do we have proof that he booked other hotel rooms overlooking large outdoor concerts? I would like some clarity on this is anyone has the info.
All valid points OP.
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
There was a lot of news stories that he had traveled the region booking rooms near other venues before Mandalay Bay. These other rooms were reported to be at a closer vantage point (again, why a .223 from such a great distance?) and with larger crowds.
http://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2017/10/las_vegas_mass_shooting_update.html
1 undesirabledesires 2018-05-12
Thanks, that was a good article.
The reason I asked is because if we have undeniable proof that he booked multiple other rooms overlooking large outdoor concerts, then I think that makes it much less likely that this was an arms deal gone wrong. It makes me think that there was a premeditated plan to shoot at concertgoers from a skyscraper window.
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
I absolutely agree. That detail threw me for a loop when I had heard about it. Of course, there is always the possibility that is by design. No idea how true that story is. It is the “news” after all.
I’m the arms deal scenario it would be a convenient cover story for why he was checking in. “Hey, I’m in town for the concert. I’m with XYZ band or media outlet and all of these heavy bags are some of the equipment for the show.”
I also figure that if ISIS had planned the patsy scheme, they could very well be the ones choosing the hotels with the vulnerable targets nearby, not Paddock. Something like Lollapalooza is way bigger than the country festival, so if Paddock was going for body count, then Route 89 would be small potatoes.
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2018-05-12
There's also this tidbit
https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/middle-east-air-force-books-entire-hotel-tower-on-las-vegas-strip/
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
That’s a hell of a budget, I wonder what large and wealthy western Christian country is helping them out with that? 🤔
1 ironlioncan 2018-05-12
Or does every hotel in Vegas overlook a crowded area?
1 autospincasino 2018-05-12
Irregardless of all the main talking points. You've gotta give him a bit of respect for selecting a country music festival. In fact, who could blame him after having that shit blasted across the road at 120db for hours on end. He had the patience of a saint to hold out till as late in the evening as he did.
1 west_coastG 2018-05-12
one video i saw it sounded like belt fed machine gun fire
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
https://youtu.be/_mXe9dk77bk
Something like this? I hate viewing that because even the sound makes me want to throw up, knowing what’s going on there.
1 swordofdamocles42 2018-05-12
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fe2_1519717074
1 YouSaidWut 2018-05-12
There’s so much wrong with that video. Using 3 young girls smiling during the event doesn’t mean there’s no shooter, just means they’re stupid. And really, no blood or any real victims? So the Vegas hospital staff and police department are all in on this? So the biggest mass shooting in US history was faked and has hundreds of participants helping in faking this and ALL of them are keeping it a secret? I don’t buy it
1 perfect_pickles 2018-05-12
yes, same as SHES, same as Boston, same as Orlando, same as Parkand.
its called a FEMA/DHS/CIA/MSM drill or exercise.
sold to the public as a something horrible.
1 YouSaidWut 2018-05-12
It’s impossible to get hundreds of people to keep secret about something that big. You’re living in a fucked up fairy tale
1 flyingcaveman 2018-05-12
Would have overloaded the Chrysler Pacifica. Not everything is a conspiracy.
1 Arkfort 2018-05-12
This is
1 ignoremsmedia 2018-05-12
Where is the ballistics report showing the trajectory of the bullets and their caliber relative to the victims?
There could have been multiple shooters based on the video and sound evidence and yeah why would he need 23 long rifles?
2 solid monster machine guns makes more sense.
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
I’ve always been curious about the caliber reported with the autopsies. My very unlucky friend has been shot with both a .38 and a .45 and it’s very easy to tell which is which.
1 Idonoteatass 2018-05-12
I mean he still has the best kdr of any shooter, I think those ARs did just fine. He did not plan on living after the attack and applying for the license would definitely put you on the radar.
1 ShitHitsTheMan 2018-05-12
120 lb, autistic Adam "Rambo" Lanza had the best kdr of any shooter: 27 dead, 1 wounded.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-05-12
six foot tall vegan male with a BMI of 15, Auschwitz survivor level of malnutrition.
by this it is obvious an ignorant female (badly) wrote that part of the script.
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
The ATF National Firearms Act license isn’t so much of an “application” as it is a “mother may I” combined with a bullshit tax. It’s not like an extensive background check like becoming a FFL (professional firearms dealer).
1 Idonoteatass 2018-05-12
"Private owners wishing to purchase an NFA item must obtain approval from the ATF, pass an extensive background check to include submitting a photograph and fingerprints, fully register the firearm, receive ATF written permission before moving the firearm across state lines, and pay a tax."
1 erietemperance 2018-05-12
This is something I questioned as well.
I own an AR. It fires a .223 with ~22 grains of powder.
IMO the reason why the weapon is so popular is simply because it's cheap. Not because it's effective.
If you have no resources and want to do something like this then an AR or similar will most likely be all you can get, not that you seek it out, rather it's the easiest and cheapest weapon to obtain. And the rounds are very accessible and cheap as well.
If you had time and money, why not get a 50 cal? Or like OP said the ATF license for a fully automatic? Or even build a bomb? Shit, why not get into the 30 range?
There is a reason why there were over 600 injured and only 59 killed in Las Vegas. Because he used a fucking .22 rifle to shoot people. At best a .22 would be good for a rabbit, squirrel or other "varmint" type animal. But not good for larger game.
The whole thing is very odd.
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
Granted, the .223 intermediate grade bullet has a lot of strong points. It flies flat, makes a serious wound, and there’s mountains of it available everywhere.
Most of the other advantages come up if you are in a combat field of operations, such as being lightweight and low recoil. None of those characteristics are necessary for a bipod stabilized high vantage slaughter.
The M60 is designed to fire a full rifle caliber armor defeating bullet uninterrupted for 60 seconds.
1 JesElIus 2018-05-12
If you fire a m60 for 60seconds straight you will for sure melt the barrel
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
60 seconds is extremely optimistic, there’s no way it could be done twice if at all.
1 DennisBroadway 2018-05-12
*I own an AR. It fires a .223 with ~22 grains of powder.
You’ve got some weak ass rounds. .223 usually starts at 40 gr.
1 erietemperance 2018-05-12
When I shoot for fun I buy the least expensive.
I can also use 556 which has a lot more power.
Typically I buy the 500 round 223 cans from Meijers. They may be loaded a bit light, but for target practice and leisure they do the trick.
1 of_mendez 2018-05-12
It was an arms deal/saudi assasination attempt
1 perfect_pickles 2018-05-12
assassination attempt under cover of a badly faked up arms deal.
1 Get___physical 2018-05-12
There is no proof anyone was even shot, only reports which no one should believe. No bullets were recovered from the target zone. No visual evidence of bullet impacts.
The corpse in the room probably wasn't even Paddock but a cadaver from the morgue. It's a staged hoax.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-05-12
there was that most likely fake MSM footage from the next day of the 'Wolverine' trailer park dude walking unaided out the hospital with two rifle bullets lodged in in lower sine.
the MSM bimbo was a frumpy dark haired creature, very unlike the typical MSM blond elfish female anchor, more like some TLA dudette.
1 Fatphillmargera 2018-05-12
My question is why did he choose that vantage point and that festival when he had been at the LifeIsBeautiful festiva which had farrr more people at it a week before with a much more clear view of the main stage
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
I absolutely agree. That detail threw me for a loop when I had heard about it. Of course, there is always the possibility that is by design. No idea how true that story is. It is the “news” after all.
I’m the arms deal scenario it would be a convenient cover story for why he was checking in. “Hey, I’m in town for the concert. I’m with XYZ band or media outlet and all of these heavy bags are some of the equipment for the show.”
I also figure that if ISIS had planned the patsy scheme, they could very well be the ones choosing the hotels with the vulnerable targets nearby, not Paddock. Something like Lollapalooza is way bigger than the country festival, so if Paddock was going for body count, then Route 89 would be small potatoes.
1 ironlioncan 2018-05-12
Or does every hotel in Vegas overlook a crowded area?
1 PM_ME_UR_MAZDA 2018-05-12
I’ve always been curious about the caliber reported with the autopsies. My very unlucky friend has been shot with both a .38 and a .45 and it’s very easy to tell which is which.
1 autospincasino 2018-05-12
Irregardless of all the main talking points. You've gotta give him a bit of respect for selecting a country music festival. In fact, who could blame him after having that shit blasted across the road at 120db for hours on end. He had the patience of a saint to hold out till as late in the evening as he did.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-05-12
assassination attempt under cover of a badly faked up arms deal.