Car backup cameras
1 2018-05-14 by zissou713
Excuse me if this is a serious tinfoil hat moment, but is anyone else curious about the laws that require all new cars to have backup cameras installed in them? Part of me thinks that this is a very convenient way to have a surveillance camera pointed towards the street at almost every suburban house in the nation. I mean think about it, if you park in your driveway, the rear of your car is going to get a great view of everything that happens in the street in front of your house. Then when you think about the way that most cars have some way of transmitting information from the car to an outside source (example Onstar), isn't it likely that someone will find a way to access that camera whenever they want to? Sorry for the lack of sourcing or concrete evidence. I just thought of this as I drove behind car after car equipped with backup cameras.
25 comments
1 plexedout 2018-05-14
sounds like a fun thought and I drifted into it for a second then came back down.
1 DonnaGail 2018-05-14
I park my car in my garage. So they would only be seeing my dark garage.
1 _skankhunt_4d2_ 2018-05-14
So we know when you are home and not just out and about with out a phone.
Also, it would be a great time to advertise to you at the end of the day.
1 DonnaGail 2018-05-14
Well, that's true. But most people (me included) always have our phones with us. So they know when I'm home and not home now anyway (because we know they can track us through our phones).
1 AngryD09 2018-05-14
Two trackers are better than one.
1 DonnaGail 2018-05-14
LOL! Yes, you are right!
1 StopHAARPingOnMe 2018-05-14
Pretty much every car has a gps system in it already. ....
1 Pie_021 2018-05-14
Doubt it. Cameras are angled down, don't work in the dark, and offer low resolution with no audio.
On top of that each car would require a wireless 3g/4g connection etc.
Your cell phone on the other hand....
1 Afrobean 2018-05-14
"Internet of things" is coming. All cars will be networked in the future, most new cars are probably already ready for some degree of it. You're right about smartphones too, but imagine your car has a smartphone built into it. Because that's how it'll be in the future, some cars already have mobile internet connections as a selling feature.
1 Ls2323 2018-05-14
Please see my other post ITT.
3/4g connection is mandatory for all new cars now in EU:
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/ecall-mandatory-new-eu-cars-march-31st-2018-03/
1 StopHAARPingOnMe 2018-05-14
Not really. They used sattellite for onstar why wouldnt they use satgellite for this?
1 ShitHitsTheMan 2018-05-14
Many new cars already have a cell modem, WiFi and other wireless connections.
1 ChristianDYOR 2018-05-14
I think a 24/7 feed is going too far, but as for hacking in on demand, why not? Most modern cars will also have your phone connected so it’s perfectly possible to to arrange for a backdoor to allow access on an ad hoc basis.
1 Afrobean 2018-05-14
If you're worried about this, you can treat cameras on your car the same way you treat cameras on smartphones or computers. Cover them up when they're not actively in use. Or if you don't want it at all, you could easily permanently disable the hardware altogether or permanently cover it.
1 Ls2323 2018-05-14
While you can do that, it is not very practical and also it doesn't stop other cameras from watching you or your vehicle.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2018-05-14
Probably to read plates to feed quantum conquers to digest daily life and profit/ control.
1 ivegottoast 2018-05-14
Interesting question. I was curious about the security of today's "infotainment" systems once I saw more and more new vehicles are available with 360 degree cameras. Who knows if there is a way to verify if they can be remotely accessed while the vehicle is being driven, and if they record and store any data that may be reviewed in the event of a collision or accident that leads to a claim against the manufacturer. I understand the need for the cameras but I wonder if they record and store any data.
1 Ls2323 2018-05-14
Nice theory OP.
Not only an issue when parked. Also when driving the camera will see the car behind and more importantly, its license plate. This way the aprx. location of pretty much all cars will be known at all times. Authorities would then perhabs enable Video feed (or picture snapshot) from the camera if they need to for various reasons.
HOWEVER, it would need to upload this location (and perhaps video) data. This of course ties in with the mandatory SIM card for 'automatic emergency calling' that has just come into effect:
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/ecall-mandatory-new-eu-cars-march-31st-2018-03/
So now the situation is: ALL new cars will have backup camera and ALL new cars will have internet connection.
1 bananapeel 2018-05-14
Interesting thought train.
Cameras mandatory
3g / 4g / 5g connections mandatory
My partner has a Nissan Leaf. She does not pay for the 3g connection. It updates itself, paid for by Nissan?
Therefore you do not need a data plan. The car is still connected even if you shut off your voluntary connection. Re: Onstar
Cameras can have motion detection in software easily now.
Upload only when there is interesting motion in the picture.
Paid for / subsidized by the NSA, DARPA, or Big Data.
1 Pete_Castiglione_ 2018-05-14
Those cams wouldnt be the ones to worry about, unless you found out they had better resolution than the display lets you see. Conversely, if police vehicles had 4 directional cameras for their 'guys in the chair' to review and search for missing persons, vehicle apb's, and license plates, that would be a bigger issue imo.
1 johnysmote 2018-05-14
Every single camera installed everywhere is part of the panopticon. It doesn't matter where it is installed or how shitty it is, it is part of the plan.
1 RemixxMG 2018-05-14
What about a colonoscopy camera
1 johnysmote 2018-05-14
awesome you made me laugh!
1 AnusJuteux 2018-05-14
One's got to know what kind of shit is coming.
1 DumbCreamy 2018-05-14
I pulled up to a stop light behind an suv with a back up cam yesterday and swear I had the same thought. Getting us to spy on ourselves. That's crazy