Koch Brothers aren't Liberal/Progressive...the Rich are the Rich, and they seldom give a fuck about anyone but themselves.

Exactly. Or the Mercers. Or Sheldon Adelson. Or others that people aren't familiar with

Was the first thought to hit my mind. This link seems relevant to our interests, source aside: Meet the wealthy donors who are pouring millions into the 2016 elections.

Yes, they are! You just don't know what the fuck either of the words actually mean. I swear, mate... It's like ground hogs day with you. You refuse to see it.

citation needed

Enlighten us then oh wise one.

Yup. 'Liberal' vs. 'conservative ideology is only for the rube have-nots. At the highest levels, it's self-interest only.

lol, wrong

Amen

Well said!

Couldn't be more correct.

Think there's a typo in your comment. Close.

Nope you think wrong. Closer.

I know plenty of wealthy people that are nothing like what you’re saying.

Wow, you know plenty of billionaires?

This has gotta be a fuckin joke. Did you just wake up from a coma 5 minutes ago? Have you heard who the president is right now?

OP must think Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne and Richie Rich are real people

He's not a billionaire.

Hey there. I'm wondering why you don't admit that you're a piece of pedophile shit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8jgw0n/jeffrey_epstein_billionaire_child_trafficker_pals/dyzr4ti/?context=3

You denied the fact that that Palm Beach police discovered 2 cameras in Jeffrey Epstein's home. Instead, you claimed "Q" made it up. Sounds like you are a pedophile yourself. Waste of skin.

Hahahahaha.

Two cameras means he bugged the whole island?

Suck my fuckin dick buddy. I dont vice a shit if you want to harass me for the rest of my life. Bring it on.

Removed, rule 4.

Well socialism does NOT mean that the rich will be forced to give all their money to the poor. Wealth would be better distributed but the rich will still be rich, the poor still poor. The gap would be much less and hopefully poverty could be eradicated. Not all rich people lean that left. Although it is food for thought that the wealthiest people in America who have more than they will ever need to spend, want wealth more distributed and less poverty.

Not all rich people lean that left.

wealthiest people in America who have more than they will ever need to spend, want wealth more distributed

I knew it wouldn't take long to find some winning logic from you. Hilarious

if the wealth had their wealth redistributed then why do royal family lines exist? why do monarchies exist? why are the same class of people in the same roles and this lasts for centuries? your model is flawed. what actually tends to happen is that the ruling groups create a fallguy over a period of years/decades, initiate a false flag such that most people accept the fallguy canard, crush the fallguy amidst public cries of reform, gain a small window where the public is sated and thus not interested in policy, and some other puppet is put back in charge. same as it ever was.

The Koch Brothers are billionaires and they've donated something like 300 million dollars to conservative causes.

Sheldon Adelson is worth 42 billion and he just donated $30 million to the Republican party to keep democrats from taking over the house in Nov 2018.

Paul Singer worth $1.92 billion. Has funded the campaigns of Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Marco Rubio.

Robert Mercer billionaire but has never disclosed actual net worth. Funded Ted Cruz's campaign. Is the number one donor for the Tea Party.

Woody Johnson worth $1.38 billion. Funded the campaign of Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney.

Norman Braman worth $1.89 billion. Funded Marco Rubio, donated $25 million to Rubio's super PAC.

Ken Langone worth $2.7 billion. Funded Chris Christies campaign.

Joe Ricketts worth $1.67 billion. Donated $20 million opposing Obama.

Peter Thiel worth $2.2 billion funded the campaign of Ron Paul.

And the list goes on lol

That ole' lefty Rupert Murdoch, eh?

Yeah wtf is OP talking about lol

They're talking about how some wealthy people are deep in the Democrat club. They're talking about how the wealthy elites make use of controlled opposition to convince poor people that they should support billionaires rather than desire to knock them down a peg. They're saying not to trust billionaires who claim to be for "social justice", because they're really just trying to keep us on their side so we don't come for them and their hoarded wealth that they use to subjugate us.

They're talking about how some wealthy people are deep in the Democrat club. They're talking about how the wealthy elites make use of controlled opposition to convince poor people that they should support billionaires rather than desire to knock them down a peg.

OP's words:

So, am I advocating a rebellion against the elite? Absolutely not. I am a capitalist at heart and always will be. These guys got rich because they worked hard and they deserve it.

Hmmmm

It was over your head apparently...go take a nap.

Not sure it was.

....and I did.

Thank you for caring about my mental alertness.

You just hear more from them because the media attacks anyone that is even neutral conservative. Just look at Kanye, he said like 2 sentence about conservatives and got bashed on twitter and called crazy by the media. Also Hollywood has created this liberal = the moral high ground narrative, so people in the spotlight risk not being seen as having the moral high ground if they speak against liberal narratives in the media.

Billionaires aren't leftists. Leftists advocate things like the working class seizing the means of production by force. The billionaires are the ones we workers would be seizing the means of production FROM. They are in opposition to leftist goals empowering the working class. Leftists want universal healthcare for all, they want the government to spend more money on social programs, and they want billionaires to be taxed more heavily to cover the cost.

"Liberal" Democrats are NOT leftist. Being in favor of allowing same-sex marriage is not what defines a "leftist".

It's because "social justice" costs them nothing and wins them everything, and if anything, improves trade by insulating commodities from boycott. So they pay lip service to the .1% of the US that is transexual, and in exchange they are granted billions of dollars in government contracts, tax breaks, and financing.This is why the Democratic party is broken beyond repair.

Do you know who the President of the United States is?

Trump has never actually been a billionaire unless debt is counted.

Trump is a poser and a pathological liar.

Oh ok.

also a life long democrat

Original Poster, read the work of historian Antony Sutton. He wrote a wonderful book called "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" that documents how the rich in the West financed the Communists.

His conclusion wasn't that they were "Communists," per se. But like Communists monopoly capitalists like centralization and "captured markets". Western financiers backed Lenin and Trotsky because they were given no-bid contracts for Russian lumber, Russian oil, Russian wheat, etc.

The Bolsheviks were also receiving bonds from Western banks, through Olaf Ashberg (the so-called Bolshevik Banker) in Sweden. To pay for these bonds, the Bolsheviks were murdering the upper middle class and wealthy, liquidating their assets and sending the proceeds to the Western bankers to pay for these bonds.

So while the poor in Russia were being told that the Bolsheviks were killing the rich to "redistribute the wealth" to the poor, the money was in fact being funneled OUT of the country to Western banksters.

The "redistribution" was going up to the ultra-rich. Not down to the poor.

That's why so much Russian gold and Faberge eggs were flooding the West during the 1920s.

I was listening to a Youtube video of a Professor discussing Sutton's work and he had a great what to encapsulate it: "Socialism is NOT a grassroots movement of the poor to protect the people from the bankers. It's a movement created by the wealthy to protect the bankers from the people."

(They're using the State to strip-mine wealth from the ordinary citizens to transfer it up to the wealthy.)

Sutton a great source, this sub should discuss his works more

"Yet, you look at youtube or any organization today and, without exception, every rich person supports a socialist, support the poor, welfare policy. Why?"

thread is full of exceptions

Amazing.

Seriously though, what billionaire supports socialism?

As in actual socialism, the system that would not only strip billionaires of their wealth and power but make it impossible for them to every reclaim that power and wealth, not "welfare and the government does stuff" social democracy "socialism"

Its an interesting theory... but the title already starts with a false assumption. Every ideology has its own set of wealthy supporters. As your needs are better met by your wealth sometimes these people move onto another purpose in life. Perhaps trying to leave a legacy that is bigger than money. But there is more than one reason.

The most blatant "nice guy" is the UN, specifically Agenda 21 and 30. Once accomplished people will be concentrated in tenements. Rural areas will be cleared. "Clearing" was used by the royals to kick Scottish people *off their own land, it was called "The Clearing". These fuckers are NOT DONE. Once you're in your tenement, that can imprison, watch, and oppress you truly: Orwell's "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."

The tech giants undid decades of labor-reform policies in one fell swoop with the 'sharing economy'.

The left (traditionally aligned with workers rights) scrambled to accommodate this new donor-base, replacing the workers-rights rhetoric with 'socially liberal' or 'identity politics' (Gays can get married, 'inclusive' work places, weed should be legal, etc....that's all fine, as long as we can continue to exploit labor).

Now labor isn't represented anywhere in the political spectrum.

The only time people really rose up and killed the elites was the French Revolution.

The 'elites' are not scared this will happen at the moment. They believe their modes of control are so absolute they can do whatever they want with impunity.

You only notice it because those who do... tell you.

Plenty of rich people keep their mouth shut and don't virtue signal over stupid shit.

cuz they're not and are mostly rw

and if they are a demo they are a conservadem