/r/TheDonald, Israel’s cheerleader

1  2018-05-15 by NYC_Subway

It’s safe to assume that all T_D mods are deep state and the sub is heavily monitored. Any comment critical of Israel or Zionism gets straight out deleted within a matter of minutes. And you won’t even know it got deleted unless if you paste the link in an incognito window. The comment still shows to the person who posted it, but is deleted for anyone else. /r/the_donald is probably the most important piece of influence the zionists have. Just yesterday they had a picture of trump with a yarmulke on touching that wall they love so much as the sub pic. If you look at the posts and top comments, all are pro Israel. They allow no dissent as the comment is instantly deleted. They know how important the user demographics are as they represent a large portion of Americans who are vocal about their beliefs.

It is important for us to reach out to the users of /r/the_donald through direct messages, as mods will simply delete your posts. Inform them of the true nature of these parasites.

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Typically, comments that can be seen as even slightly racist gets the shadowban hammer. Not every one gets found and removed, but reported comments get removed quickly.

It’s more a condition of protecting the sub from being terminated by appearing to condone racism or anti-Semitism.

I hate Clinton & think Democrats vs Republicans is a phony argument......but going furtherThe Donald is either filled with morons or a corporate shill haven for pushing the continued robbery of the United States working class.

The Donald is either filled with morons or a corporate shill haven

It's both

It's a rah rah sub.....in fact they even state in their rules they will not allow criticism of Donald Trump.

The sub is a shit posting Haven. The rules specifically dictate that all shit posting be pro-Trump.

It's not a default sub that professes unbiased modding. As you say: it's literally in their rules.

That would be like me bitching that r/LGBT deletes anti-LGBT posts.

So trump is Israeli now? Why can’t israe or Zionist be criticized there?

For the longest time I thought T_D was a joke/circlejerk sub. That's how bad it is.

Its not all one type of person. I've seen critical comments of Israel, and those who want us out of ME wars is a high percentage.

Many are waking up to the Zionist deception, and more to come, don't let them fool you into thinking you are fringe. Many are just silent and afraid.

I've been banned from TD and HC subreddits for questioning the narrative.

It’s a sub dedicated to the applause of Donald Trump - there’s no conspiracy, that’s LITERALLY what’s its for.

Democrats vs. Republicans is phony

I've seen it referred to as the entertainment branch of the military industrial complex, similar to Hollywood and the "news".

Perhaps their fear of Muslims is involved as well.

Perhaps their manufactured fear of Muslims is involved as well.

I accept your addition!

Islam has no place in the Western World.

There are millions of Muslims who fit in just fine.

Which is hilarious because they SWORE that dipshit donnie was going to rod america of israels influence. Now they openly cheer for israel.

Brainwashed idiots. All of them.

Long time T_D member. Israel has never been a point of disdain. One of the top posts is a picture of Trump with his hand on the wall w a yamaka kippah(?) on.

Netanyahu has been a pro-Trumper for quite some time as well.

You're welcomed to view my post history and make fun of my T_D, conservative, worldnews and libertarian posts (tho the libertarians didn't really like my independent thinking), but if you look at my first Political posts they are being critical of Trump.

The substance of this administration's accomplishments are undeniable. They are roiled in turmoil because the left is hell bent on demonizing everything right leaning. However, to deny any progress has been made would show you are just as brainwashed as you claim T_D users are.

either you're an excellent disinfo agent who has mastered double-speak or you're confused about the true nature of things. Who exactly do you think the left represent? Who do you think funds these SJW protests? Who do you think (at least not recently) smeared Trump throughout the media before and after the elections?

It’s safe to assume that all T_D mods are deep state and the sub is heavily monitored.

As is any sub that is as high traffic as T_D is.

Any comment critical of Israel or Zionism gets straight out deleted within a matter of minutes.

Not true. There's a way to be critical of things and the mods will make judgement based on your post history. If you're not a T_D regular and a regular poster in Anti-Trump subs, such as yourself, there is little to no tolerance against abrasive content.

And you won’t even know it got deleted unless you paste the link in an incognito window. The comment still shows to the person who posted it, but is deleted for anyone else.

This is a tool all mods have called shadow banning (I believe).

/r/the_donald is probably the most important piece of influence the zionists have.

That's a pretty big assumption. If the people on T_D were high impact or activists in their community, this might be somewhat true. However, the amount of T_D subscribers vs how many people there are in the real world is an incredibly low percentage (600k vs 7.6 billion) makes this statement very "dis-info"ish.

Just yesterday they had a picture of trump with a yarmulke on touching that wall they love so much as the sub pic. If you look at the posts and top comments, all are pro Israel.

How this makes everyone in the there Jewish heretics, I'm not sure. Usually T_D posters are called Nazis.

They allow no dissent as the comment is instantly deleted. They know how important the user demographics are as they represent a large portion of Americans who are vocal about their beliefs.

I've addressed both of these.

It is important for us to reach out to the users of /r/the_donald through direct messages, as mods will simply delete your posts. Inform them of the true nature of these parasites.

Not sure who you're referring to as parasites, but if you're calling Jewish people parasites, thats a big red flag as to the voracity/viability of your opinion.

either you're an excellent disinfo agent who has mastered the skill of double-speak or you're confused about the true nature of things. Who exactly do you think the left represent? Who do you think funds these SJW protests? Who do you think (at least not recently) smeared Trump throughout the media before and after the elections?

If you're looking to move the goal posts to try to get arguement out of me, it's a waste of time. Your contribution to this sub is the topic I wish to address and why I clicked on it with the intention to post in the first place.

You're welcome to message me (as your informing others to do) and I'd be happy to talk about my stance on topics not relevant to your OP.

The mods are committed to content culling as are all mods of any Sub.

As a mod of a lot of subs, lol.

No, all subs don't cull like TD. That shit's a joke of censorship.

All controversial subs do.

It looks to me like you make it your job to mod every sub by trying to correct every low level pro-Trump comment possible. Lol you must mod r/worldpolitics. Those mods let anything go and it's a garbage fire.

T_D started by catering to a base. They grew because of their consistency and how they took care of their base. T_D and their users are constantly belittled and bitched at outside that sub (see OP), why in the hell would the mods allow it to happen in that subs simply so people like you and OP can get your jollies in the belly of the so-called beast?

If you actually are a mod in a high volume sub, the fact that you're self proclaiming and pandering for low level upvotes seems silly and petty.

It's very transparently an everyday rally for President Trump, unlike other subs that ban you just for subbing or commenting at T_D or a major political default sub that touts itself as neutral. It's like a straight white male going into "blackladies" and complaining that they're not welcome. It's their sub, and the PRESIDENT'S sub, so leave 'em be!

Some pathetic users go around checking your history and the minute they see that you have interacted with that devil sub, they automatically discredit you.

I enjoy T_D, I visit every now and then, it's a little memey and over the top for me but I enjoyed that spark during election season and I still enjoy the bants when there's a Trump rally. Why the hell people gotta bust anyone's nuts just for being enthusiastic about the President? Is it because of racism? You think everyone who supports Trump is some knuckle-dragger scum? Seems so, and that's the kind of racism that is lowkey on display by the Left: if you're black you're too stupid to achieve anything on your own merits (you can't even get ID's to vote apparently) and if you're a white conservative, you're in inbred hick from flyover rural retard-land.

It's very transparently an everyday rally for President Trump, unlike other subs that ban you just for subbing or commenting at T_D or a major political default sub that touts itself as neutral. It's like a straight white male going into "blackladies" and complaining that they're not welcome. It's their sub, so leave 'em be!

I do leave them be.

Problem is that last election, TD was a hub for spam, brigading and various trolling that drove the rest of the site nuts. And now that things have quieted down, TD doesn't know what to do with itself.

It's shit content IMHO. I don't really care about how they run their shop. To each his own. But don't act like all subs do what they do and don't act like it's a good place for content unless weak shitposting has become valued lately.

Well yeah, when someone finds out you belong to a cult full of idiots with stupid ideas, you’re gonna get discredited. Why you expect otherwise? Anyone who is capable of expressing individual thought is banned from that sub.

I think he’s a comedian

They've certainly accomplished plenty for Netanyahu and the Zionist cronies!

I love whe Donald supporters decide to speak eloquently like they're misunderstood victims and any criticism of them is just spin. I've never contributed but I've been on t_d fairly often and its people acting super immature, posting racist shit, and only creating significance off reaction of people who don't agree with them. I've seen anti Semitic content, anti Muslim, and support of violence towards opposition. I'm sorry you can't see trump boosting the s&p isn't him boosting the economy, it's him being pro corporate and expanding the takeover from private institutes.

Damn, you really nailed that one!

Here's another theory: not all that T_D are neanderthals.

I can send you to all corners of Reddit where there are vile miserable people who only spread hate and make it the key focus of a comment is to try to bash other people. People they don't know, who they will never meet, just to simply get a few upvotes... internet points.

If you look at my post history and compare it to yours, there are two key differences: good grammar and intent. I have no problems defending myself, but I will not voluntarily attack someone simply to point out how much of a piece of shit I think they are based on zero time actually knowing them.

Not sure why I'm telling you about me though. You know me, right? I am "super immature" (btw, next time leave super out... it makes you sound immature), racist, reactionary, anti-Semitic (even though OP is saying we are Zionists) and anti-Muslim (look up extreme Islamism), support violence against opposing ideals (aka bigot... there are idiots in every sub. Look at the stuff that makes it to 5k+ to see what the "hive mind" agrees with).

I'm sorry you can't see trump boosting the s&p isn't him boosting the economy, it's him being pro corporate and expanding the takeover from private institutes.

This sentence make absolutely zero sense. Every government is pro corporate, it's literally the pulse of the economy. I don't understand the last part of what you're saying enough to address it. I can tell you that there is no take over to expand on, particularly one ran by private institutes.

(tho the libertarians didn't really like my independent thinking)

Says the person who posts in a sub where any criticism is forbidden. Where any dissenting view is banned.

You keep on with your 'critical thinking' and the rest of us will just keep thinking in a general sense.

If you say so. All I did was point out that T_D has rules.

Because of that I've had all sorts of people (even a supposed mod) tell me how shitty of a place T_D is and how vile the people in it are towards people who don't agree with them.

I hope you can see some irony there... You can have your generalizations and white knight for kids that are trying to bastardize a stranger. I'll stick to shit posting in T_D.

Please do. I'd also like to mention, at no point, have you made any good argument. You're simply throwing out ad homims and strawmens left and right. It's like saying, although I'm part of a cult that kidnaps children, earth is a bad place, therefore, you can't single out me when there is ignorance everywhere within every group of people. IE, me being a part of a cult that kidnaps children isn't an issue, it's just some of them! (even though it's obvious your INTENT and net product is kidnapping children)

You got me. I'm a Russian Bot. You've broken my algorithms. I'll give up my right leaning idiologies and start trolling low level comments for single digit upvotes and a feeling of self satisfaction gained through judging other people.

Also, T_D is simply a bunch of brainwashed idiots. It would be impossible for them to organize any sort of impactful gathering (such as a cult). The real vitriol is seen in the hatred for that one specific sub and the toxic conversation that gets had regarding a shit posting sub.

You kids are fantastic...

The cult is that of the party of the Donald, t_d is just a result. It's not a shit posting sub, it's genuinely the apogee of the zeitgeist surrounding the nationalism of our president. Tbh your pretty lame for folding so quickly. You really went from I'm a confident person who is misunderstood to don't associate me with those guys. Sorry I hurt your feel feels! You baby boomers were always the most sensitive.

You really are that daft... That entire comment was facetious.

Props tho, you're trying to use your big boy words. Still need to work on that grammar and punctuation.

Sorry I hurt your feel feels! You baby boomers were always the most sensitive.

You're going to have a blast throwing your life away on Reddit for cheeky attacks.

I like how your only response is calling hg grammar bad. Sad you can't actually sustain a discussion without getting distracted by petty things. Then again, you voted for Donald so what can I expect? Also, you haven't used many big words like you think you do. Go read a book.

Tbh your pretty lame for folding so quickly... Sorry I hurt your feel feels! You baby boomers were always the most sensitive.

What was that about distractions and petty things?

you voted for Donald

And you? Who did you vote for in the Primaries and out of Don vs Hills?

Bernie then regretfully Hillary. This country needs better candidates all around

Hey big guy, again, talking with better diction and grammer doesn't make you more intelligent. And no, you don't have to dig far into the donald to see racism and vile hatred. Sorry you've cozied up to it, and as far as your boot licking statement on all governements do that, well you're on a conspiracy forum fucktard. The status quo of governments isn't our concern, in fact, it's what we're actively fighting against. Except you, a chimera of american racism and unchecked confidence has convinced you that you're doing something with you're life. If you're cool with all that, it's because your value system is tethered to the social engineering of the right. being a supporter of donald gives me the absolute right to classify you to certain things. Also, supporting Israel doesn't make you not anti-semitic. They buy weapons, along with Saudi Arabia, so we're cool with them. Of course you will read this comment, feign being a victim, and then try and block yourself with more generilizations. So going forward, I emplore you looking into the art of debating and not get caught up in the prestidigitation of fancy words!

My problem with it is this progress has come woth strings attached. Also, trump was handed a system built for greatness by obama. By simply doing nothing it is doing well.

It's been like that over there for everything and everyone.

Not all T_D supporters are the same person

They share the same stupid ideas so for the sake of argument they are all the same person

I spend most of my time on T_D and do not support what Israel is doing. Around a year ago you could see most of the comments were against Israel, now I don't even bother to comment.

If you did you’d be banned for “concern trolling” lol

It's ignorant to write off 40% of American's who voted for and identify with Trump. The divisive nature you are exhibiting is exactly what they want. I may not like certain aspects of how the Presidency is going, but I still respect our Command in Chief and our Country.

https://youtu.be/-0Rj7qcLu1A

People who identify with Trump disguast me.

Who on the god earth wants to identify with a narrcistic, scam "billionair", pathological liar who cant even speak 3 coherent sentences.

*disgust. And that’s why we voted for him

People who identify with Trump disguast me.

That is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Obama disgusted me as much as Bush and Clinton and most Presidents before. Most politicians are narcissistic, pathological liars.. or the word you're looking for is Sociopath. Sociopaths seek positions of authority so they can exercise power over others.

What you need to realize is, America is a spectrum of beliefs, cultures and communities. I don't agree with a lot of American's, but I can honor them as a citizen without personally attacking them. You can criticize their actions (constructively) and help bridge the divide in beliefs or at least gain an understanding for their choice instead of lambasting them as a person.

40% of Americans aren't active on The Donald and don't agree with that hivemind.

I was speeking about people who voted for Trump, not people partaking in T_D, however, if you knew any thing about T_D besides what's been regurgitated down your throat, you would know there are lots of different 'believers' in Trump at various degrees. Some hold him as high as God Emperor, some just appreciate that he isn't Hillary, some acknowledge his other 'positive characteristics' or just being "different" from other politicians. It's more complicated and intricate than you think.

I was speeking about people who voted for Trump, not people partaking in T_D

Op was taking about T_D and not all Trump supporters.

Not at all. First of all, 60% of Americans voted so you're actually referring to only a quarter of Americans who voted for Trump. Second of all, by definition, half of America is dumber than average. Respect is something that's earned, not won by stirring up the dumbest quarter of the country and garnering their votes. Nobody was telling the racists to respect Obama because he's president. Holding a title doesn't earn respect. Actions do.

Fuck Donald Trump and fuck you.

I am well aware that only a portion of America voted, but many who do not vote, still support certain actions/people etc. His approval rating is above 40%: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Second of all, by definition, half of America is dumber than average

This is where you're wrong. People are stupid, period. Not half or some other amount. Nearly all people are stupid.

From one of my favorite books:

"Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid." Richard and Kahlan frowned even more. "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool... People are stupid; they want to believe, so they do."

Nobody was telling the racists to respect Obama because he's president.

And they were fools too. To bridge the divide (created by MSM/TPTB) and finally overthrow our masters we need to put aside the personal vitriol for each other. Maybe you don't need to respect the other, but gain a slight understanding. You really have no idea what life they've had and it's ignorant to think otherwise.

The thing about Trump is, his Presidency is a phenomenon greater than you realize. The Trump curse, numerology(Gematria), fulfilling prophecy etc He is a buffoon and a fool, yes, but he is also much more important in the grand scheme of things. He's playing his part in all of this, like every one of us.

I know you think that, but you are just plain wrong

An argument with no premise is an opinion. Just because you feel like I'm wrong doesn't make it so. You're actually proving my point.

Agreed so why can't you see that you just did the same thing

... oh wow I guess I have to break down a single sentence. An argument is composed of two parts: a conclusion and a premise that supports that conclusion. Let's take a look at my sentence:

Conclusion: "for the sake of argument they are all the same person" Premise: "they share the same stupid ideas"

Because [premise], [conclusion].

Now let's look at yours:

Conclusion: "you are just plain wrong" Premise: ???

"I know you think that" is not a premise that supports your conclusion, it does nothing to attack my conclusion or premise. It's just an opinion and a dubious one at that (how can you really know what I think?) It's an informal logical fallacy.

The fact that you can't distinguish between what you said and what I said says a lot about the disparity between our education. I hope you're just young.

Your whole premise is garbage though, I thought it was obvious. It is your opinion they all share the same ideas. In reality it is a mixed constituency, though they tend conservative overall (source: reading comments from supporters).

I can't believe I have to explain the idea that not everyone who votes for a candidate is the same person

wooooosh right over your head

T_D user here. We come to conspiracy sometimes too. It's good to hear other points of view. I have read your comments on Israel, and in general disagree with them, but it's good to hear them. The only place you can make pro-Trump or pro-Israel comments right now without starting a fight is T_D. T_D doesn't come here and call you all crazy, why try to brigade our sub? We will come here and argue points from time to time (check my posts for today) but a variety of opinions is important. We can disagree on some things (Israel) and agree on others (DNC election rigging, WikiLeaks, etc.).

you are a zionist

... Yes I am. I am not religious, but yes, I am a Zionist.

What is the optimistic end game? Full control of the Middle East, or just a sovereign nation in harmony with its neighbors? How much aggression or bloodshed is necessary?

I personally would go with, "A sovereign nation in harmony with its neighbors".

"A sovereign nation in harmony with its dead neighbors"...ftfy

Then you don't want what they want. Look up 'Greater Israel Project'

they all try to play this im not religious, im atheist crap when in reality they are super religious, and super spiritual, except they pay allegiance to satanic forces

i suggest arming and getting water filters

Embarrassing. Americans rooting for the people who caused uss liberty and 9/11. When will you idiots realize they commit false flags so we can fight their wars? Do you know about PNAC? Lavon affair?

I don't think you even know what you're talking about.

Disgusting.

and that's a good thing

I would also like to state for the record that as of 1542 EST... exactly 2 of the top 25 posts on T_D have anything to do with Israel... while 15 of 25 on the conspiracy sub do.

I wonder why?

Of course that's the only place where you can post without starting an argument, considering anything that is anti-trump/Israel gets removed from there.

What is the conspiracy?

Apparently the deepstate even extends to Reddit mods now. They leave up all the posts exposing themselves though, it's just the Israel ones and ones criticising the president whom they are trying to remove that they don't like. Makes perfect sense.

The deep state does extend to reddit when you think of Shareiblue and their continuing efforts.

I’m getting confused about who the nazis are, and who’s fighting against the nazis.

This is absolutely the truth.

Holy shit you're crazy.

Holy shit you're crazy.

You haven't shown me any actual arguments to counter my points.

You haven’t made a single point btw

Clearly you didn't read the post.

In your post you incorrectly state liberals want everyone brown without quoting a single democrat who states such a thing

Then you state you dislike interracial breeding, which is an opinion. Not a point

So like I said, you had zero point to counter. Can’t expect a nazi to be the brightest though!

I wish it wasn't Tuesday and you weren't all here.

In your post you incorrectly state liberals want everyone brown without quoting a single democrat who states such a thing

while he is not to my knowledge a democrat, here's a video of anthony bourdain enunciating precisely that viewpoint

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So you are against human evolution?

Whites and Western Civilization are not going to evolve with the increase in 3rd world immigrants.

America is already a shitholr

Go visit Haiti and tell me that with a straight face.

If you judge a society by how it treats its weakest, then yes the us is a bigger shithole than haiti. But many agree with you, probably because of the dismantled public education system in your country.

If you judge a society by how it treats its weakest, then yes the us is a bigger shithole than haiti.

How does Haiti treat it's absolute weakest? I don't think they have social security.

Better with what they have, compared to the US. You have 13% poverty but could have 0% if you had some small changes in social transfers. Haiti probably couldn't have 0% poverty, but at least they try to have it.

You got problems man

Advocating for diversity and coexistence is destroying diversity. Are you American? If so, do you believe that you’d have more in common with a Caucasian Swedish person than a 3rd generation Mexican American or African American?

Advocating for diversity and coexistence is destroying diversity?

Absolutely. Look at the Amish. They've kept the same traditions, language and ways of life for hundreds of years. They have the same blood and have no reason to fight about racism or who's rich/poor, because they got rid of those degenerates. They work, pray and live together and when someone needs help, they help because that person helped them at some point. That's a model community and that's something I can get behind. They don't live for themselves, they live for the community. That's what Whites should be striving for.

Are you American?

Yes. But studies have shown Hispanics and Asians identify with their race and the country their ancestors came from, not the US.

If so, do you believe that you’d have more in common with a Caucasian Swedish person than a 3rd generation Mexican American or African American?

My parents and grandparents grew up in an Italian community in the US. Their neighbors were Italian. Their coworkers were mostly Italian. The local stores were Italian and of course they all went to Italian churches. They had much in common so they had little to fight about but they got soft. They stopped speaking their home languages, they stopped going to church so much, people moved and now they are about as Italian as the local Pizza Hut. What they lost is gone forever here and it's going to take multiple generations of work to get it back.

Go to Italy with that shit.

We will fight to preserve our existence.

So you are complaining about your Italian community no longer holding onto italian traditions and instead assimilating to a wider culture yet you also complain about Asians and Hispanics identifying their race or country of origin instead of the US?

They don't live for themselves, they live for the community.

You realize that’s socialism right? I’ll agree national socialism is not as bad as international socialism, but it’s still socialism. It’s the coercion that’s wrong, the fact you are forced to “live for the community” (or whatever the ruler proclaims to be in the interest of the “community”). Your life is worth less than the herd’s (and the rulers’) comfort.

Both Hitler and Mussolini were prominent socialist statesmen, by the way.

You realize that’s socialism right?

Community style living has to be natural and organic, not something forced upon.

They have the same blood and have no reason to fight about racism or who's rich/poor, because they got rid of those degenerates.

“I’m a racist asshole that wishes every person that isn’t more pale than me shouldn’t exist”.......cmon dude you’re fucking disgusting

The celebration of diversity is in regards to no one race being advantaged over others. What you see as special treatment is what society already gives you. You're not getting less they're just getting as much.

A homogeneous race of brown people would be the ultimate embodiment of racial equality.

A homogeneous race of brown people would be the ultimate embodiment of racial equality.

Wait for it....except for White people.

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A homogeneous race of brown people would be the ultimate embodiment of racial equality.

Wait for it....except for White people. So it's not so equal after all, huh? And people like you aren't that much different than the Nazi's you claim to hate. And newsflash, if you are in the US, you will end up on one side of the conflict or the other.

We know diversity means White genocide. That's why it will be stopped.

Because the white people would have blended in with everyone else, so everyone would be one color...

Why are you so opposed to being treated the same as everyone else?

Because the white people would have blended in with everyone else, so everyone would be one color...

I don't actually agree with assimilation. I think Italians need to be Italians. I think Africans need to be Africans and Muslims need to be Muslims. I support separatism where every race is free to perish or prosper on their own.

My ideal US would be set up like this:

Native Americans - We will have to work out something for them. They were screwed.

Hawaiians - We would still want to keep a military base there, but they should be given back full control of their country, if they decide they want that. They may not since they benefit a lot from the Mainland US.

For Hispanics - Deportations. Most of them speak Spanish anyway and follow their cultural traditions anyway, so it won't be too hard for them to go back.

For Blacks:

1) Sterilizations in exchange for no deportations.

2) Paid deportations. We can even work out something with Mexico, The UK, Canada or another country I'm sure if they'd like to go there and since the UK/Canada take in tons of people anyway.

3) Deportations to possibly some kind of area near the border of Mexico where they can perish or prosper on their own. If any Whites/mixed people choose to go there, they will follow the same rules.

Why are you so opposed to being treated the same as everyone else?

I can't tell if this is satire or if you really are this disturbed.

These are the comments your types make when you have no arguments against it.

No, I just can't believe that anyone would be so racist.

Italian isn't a skin color, African isn't a skin color, Muslim isn't a skin color. Where someone lives and what religion they practice has nothing to do with skin color.

Your ideal America is incredibly racially driven. It is not a vision for a country built upon laws, equality, or human rights.

I question if you actually understand what the first amendment means. You seem like someone who would yell about your right to free speech being infrindged upon by someone telling you to shut up. That is not a violation of the first amendment.

If owning a gun represents what you think it means to be American, you've set the bar pretty low.

The electoral process means (well, it should mean) that all citizens are represented, no matter their skin color or religious preference.

...what? When has American ever been whites only?

Look, maybe you should try to be more inclusive and stop thinking your skin color makes you special in any way.

Where someone lives and what religion they practice has nothing to do with skin color.

Sure it does and it's silly to suggest otherwise. There's not a lot of Chinese Mennonites out there. There's not a lot of Muslim people in South America.

We can trace the origins of all religions.

Your ideal America is incredibly racially driven. It is not a vision for a country built upon laws, equality, or human rights.

America is not a country based on equality or human rights for non-Whites. See the Native Americans and Mexicans if you think otherwise. The founders intended for this country to be White only. Laws did eventually change though and when you establish that laws are not set in stone, they can be changed, removed and abused.

If owning a gun represents what you think it means to be American, you've set the bar pretty low.

Not a lot of other countries allow its citizens to have the types of guns we have nor allow them such freedoms to purchase them. It is really hard to large numbers of people who are armed without hurting innocent people in the process.

The electoral process means (well, it should mean) that all citizens are represented, no matter their skin color or religious preference.

Native's weren't allowed to vote until 1924. Blacks weren't allowed until 1965.

...what? When has American ever been whites only?

The founding fathers did not consider blacks to be equal people. They also made it a mission to destroy the Natives, which they successfully did.

Look, maybe you should try to be more inclusive and stop thinking your skin color makes you special in any way.

Your skin color and your gender determine a lot about how your life will go.

Again, skin color has nothing to do with religious preference or nationality. A person with black skin that is born in China would be Chinese. A white person who practices Hinduism would be Hindu. None of that has to do with skin color.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equally; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Sounds like like the founders did intend this to be a country of equality and human rights.

You can have a large portion of the population owning firearms without the hurting of innocent people in the process, but it would involve sensible gun regulations. Sensible gun regulations do not conflict with the second amendment. Are you in favor of said regulations?

Seems the founding fathers anticipated the potential for voting to be expanded beyond such a small group by including the ability to amend the Constitution...

So you admit that America was never "white only." Good, that's the first step to letting go of the hate and bigotry.

That is an unfortunate truth that would start to be resolved by a homogenous population. Is that what you are accusing liberals of doing? Trying to eliminate the discrimination?

Again, skin color has nothing to do with religious preference or nationality.

No, but it makes it more likely that person is x religion or x nationality.

Sounds like like the founders did intend this to be a country of equality and human rights.

If they had intended this, they wouldn't have allowed slavery nor would have allowed the destruction of the natives.

Are you in favor of said regulations?

Nope. Background checks are the only regulations I support. And that "sensible gun regulations" shit are Dem buzzwords.

Upstanding and good citizens do not shoot innocent people.

Seems the founding fathers anticipated the potential for voting to be expanded beyond such a small group by including the ability to amend the Constitution..

The Founding Fathers were absolute humble geniuses and are clearly smarter than anyone else today. They knew that every human makes mistakes.

I don't think in their wildest dreams they would have imagined some of the shit that is seen as normal behavior in today's world and I think they would have done more to protect the constitution had they known. I also think they would be totally against the current path of this country and would be out to stop it.

So you admit that America was never "white only." Good, that's the first step to letting go of the hate and bigotry.

Natives were moved off American land and subjected to genocide. Blacks were seen as little more than farm animals.

Again, if they thought of them as actual humans, they wouldn't have killed them nor made them their slaves, would they? Good, that's the first step into admitting your propaganda and anti-American sentiments.

Is that what you are accusing liberals of doing? Trying to eliminate the discrimination?

Liberals are attempting to create a socialist world government where humans exist to serve as slaves for the elites. And the sooner they can convince people like you to let them get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendments, they will be able to take down more until there is no constitution remaining.

It really doesn't. You just assume it does. That's part of the problem if your narrow worldview.

No doubt that had they actually stopped and been honest with themselves they would have agreed that slavery is wrong. And yes, they were hostile Invaders of Native American lands.

Far more regulations can be in place than just background checks. For instance, you have no legitimate reason to need to own an automatic or semi-automatic weapon.

I don't think in their wildest dreams they would be able to imagine that they would be able to launch a rocket to attack a nation on the other side of the planet, or instantly communicate with millions of people around the world, or have a device that is smaller than a book but contains millions of books within it. But I'm willing to bet that they would want to learn more and embrace new ideas. Perhaps you should consider doing the same?

Words weren't put in your mouth, you just refuse to admit that your "white only" America never existed. It was wrong how early Americans treated Native Americans and Africans. Maybe instead of celebrating that mistake, you should learn from it.

Everyone treating everyone as equals means everyone is a slave? Where do you get that bent logic from? Does the word everyone confuse you or something? Do you think that "elites" are trying to make people slaves because that's what you would do in their position?

And seriously, someone telling you and your toxic ideas to go take a hike is not a violation of your first amendment. Adding regulations on what kind of guns can be owned is not a violation of your second amendment. None of your claims of your rights being infringed upon are legitimate, they only show how you do not understand your rights.

It really doesn't. You just assume it does. That's part of the problem if your narrow worldview.

Common sense dude, come on. People are more likely to partake in something that the majority of the population partakes in than something they don't.

No doubt that had they actually stopped and been honest with themselves they would have agreed that slavery is wrong.

We're going to have to disagree here. Take John Jay and Alexander Hamilton for instance: https://imgur.com/a/xHcuUR7. They make it pretty clear that safety depends on national unity and national unity derives from being from same origins, with the same languages and the same religions.

Far more regulations can be in place than just background checks.

Far more regulations can be in place for minorities and women.

For instance, you have no legitimate reason to need to own an automatic or semi-automatic weapon.

As long as I am not doing anything against the law with it and as long as I make sure it is in a safe and secure location, I don't see the issue. It's not the weapon, it's the intent behind the weapon. France banned guns, so people use cars and killed over 130 people. There's some chemicals out there where a couple pounds of it can kill a whole block.

I don't think in their wildest dreams they would be able to imagine that they would be able to launch a rocket to attack a nation on the other side of the planet, or instantly communicate with millions of people around the world, or have a device that is smaller than a book but contains millions of books within it.

I agree

But I'm willing to bet that they would want to learn more and embrace new ideas. Perhaps you should consider doing the same?

American ethnic national separatism is a new idea that hasn't really been tried here.

Maybe instead of celebrating that mistake, you should learn from it.

I have. And instead of killing them or making them slaves, we will either:

  • Deport

  • Sterilize

  • Give them some land to be on their own with separate from us

  • Offer reparations for self-deportations

  • Or create a bunch of laws which will pick at their rights bit by bit just like what is being done with the constitution, until there's nothing left.

Do you think that "elites" are trying to make people slaves because that's what you would do in their position?

Elites are attempting to create a socialist dictatorship world government where humans exist to serve as little more than slaves.

And seriously, someone telling you and your toxic ideas to go take a hike is not a violation of your first amendment. Adding regulations on what kind of guns can be owned is not a violation of your second amendment. None of your claims of your rights being infringed upon are legitimate, they only show how you do not understand your rights.

Nothing is a violation of anything if you frame it correctly.

We live in a largely integrated world. No, it is not "common sense," it is prejudice.

Perhaps you should read the entire wuotes instead of simply picking out lines that you feel support your worldview.

But there is a wide difference between closing the door altogether and throwing it entirely open; between a postponement of fourteen years and an immediate admission to all the rights of citizenship. Some reasonable term ought to be allowed to enable aliens to get rid of foreign and acquire American attachments; to learn the principles and imbibe the spirit of our government; and to admit of at least a probability of their feeling a real interest in our affairs. A residence of at least five years ought to be required. If the rights of Naturalization may be communicated by parts, and it is not perceived why they may not, those peculiar to the conducting of business and the acquisition of property, might with propriety be at once conferred, upon receiving proof, by certain prescribed solemnities, of their intention to become citizens; postponing all political privileges to the ultimate term. To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens, the moment they put foot in our country, as recommended in the Message, would be nothing less, than to admit the Grecian Horse into the Citadel of our Liberty and Sovereignty.

Hamilton wasn't anti-immigrant, he was pro-assimilation.

Regulations in place on guns would be applied to all groups equally. Not the same as your "regulations" on women and non-whites.

Like I said, you have no legitimate reason. And compare the nber of times vehicles are used in public places to the number of times guns are used in public places if you want to try and rehash that "why don't we ban trucks then?" nonsense.

...you mean segregation? Ah, so that's what "MAGA" means to you. No more colored folks drinking from the same water fountain, eh?

Or, and hear me out here, or we treat everyone equally because we are all humans! Now there's a new concept that really has not been tried before.

LOL Put down the kool-aid and go get some fresh air bud.

As you are trying to justify actual genocide by claiming that white people are under attack because they are reproducing with non-white people? Seriously, there's no attempts at justification when I tell you that you clearly do not understand your rights.

Commenting on this so I can re-read it later.

Good thing that this will never happen.

think Italians need to be Italians. I think Africans need to be Africans and Muslims need to be Muslims

Your entire post falls apart due to this statement right here. Even if we all “look” the same....Italians would still be Italian because they’re from Italy. Africans would still be Africans because they’re from Africa. Muslims would still be Muslim because they worship allah. Americans would still be Americans because they either hold citizenship or are born in America (hence holding citizenship). Man you’re from T_D aren’t you because there’s no way someone holds these views unless they worship the God emporer of the US....you sound like one hell of a racist asshole

Are we the baddies???

https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU

I don't believe the Nazi's were.

We can argue over the legitimacy of various Holocaust claims and we can probably agree that instead of killing, deportations and sterilizations would have done just fine.

But their overall ideals like cultural/ethnic preservation, Familialism, fitness/health and religion were causes with high moral values.

People swear the Nazi's were the worst group to ever step foot on the earth, yet conveniently yawn it off when the 100 million that Communism/Socialism has killed are brought up.

Were annexing parts of Poland, Austria, and Czechoslovakia also of high moral value?

Britain thought one city in Poland alone was worth 60 million lives. I guess that's why they said no to peace treaties 14 different times.

Germany has always had flexible borders.

Poland has a long history of being conquered because its geography makes it difficult to defend. That's like saying you aren't a rapist because the woman has a history being raped before. The idea of Germany as a nation didn't exist until the late 19th century, so the "Greater German Empire" did not have a long history of anything at the time the Nazis began inventing reasons to invade their neighbors

Discipline, nationalism and religion aren't high moral values, they are selfish characteristics that prioritize the desires and needs of oneself and one's ingroup over outgroups, and the state over the individual.

Stop, you're messing up his theories with your facts and realism

yikes

Sooo... you're a Nazi?

I'm an ethnic national separatist.

Every race/culture deserves their own homelands to propser or perish without interference.

Just curious where someone who is heavily mixed would go? I am like four different things. Also what about native Americans? I’m genuinely curious.

Thank you for your question and tone.

Native Americans

Britain, France, The Spanish and The Portugese(IIRC) fucked the Native Americans as did we. If there is ever a group that deserves something in the US, it's them.

The Native Americans are a great example of what may happen to White Americans if we don't act soon. Once we are the minority, I firmly believe we will be forced to pay reparations for slavery and will be able to do nothing but watch as the Southwest United States is slowly reconquered by Mexico. There are more poor South/Central Americans than their US citizens and as long as those countries stay poor and as long as South/Central Americans continue to have more kids than they can afford, we will always have millions of them wanting to come here.

Just curious where someone who is heavily mixed would go? I am like four different things

What things are you?

The Germans went back 3 generations to decide who was Jewish and who wasn't. While some of their methods left much to be desired, this is a decent start, but our science and technology has increased and we can surely do a better job now.

This is what real identity politics looks like guys

Pal I am 6% of 8 different things and 12% of 4 different things. Italians think I’m Italian french think I’m french Germans think I’m German Jews think I’m Jewish

who drafts me into their ethnostate?

also what about the idea of protection against illnesses through inter breeding? a very easy example is to look at dogs, mutts have less illness and bone issues. Also what about people who are sexually attracted to members not of their race? My life would be a lot more empty if I had never tried to date people different than my own kind

I just feel like this mindset is kind of a self defense thing

5/8 Mexican, 1/8 German, 1/8 Irish and 1/8 Japanese. You can’t trace back the male lineage on my Mexican fathers side bc he was adopted. If you went back on my moms side it would put me in Japan. So by your logic should I be in japan? I honestly think that’s a little bizarre because I’m from northern Midwest and I’m learning Chinese, and I learned French and Spanish on school, so I would have a very hard time in japan. Or should I be living in Mexico? I’m married to a white (primarily British/Scottish) man, so where would my child belong once he is an adult and we are dead?

Last question, how would you address the vast differences in living standards between countries? If I were to be forced into Mexico bc of my lineage, I would feel that is unfair. I was born and raised here, I’ve paid taxes, this is my country.

Thanks for having a conversation, I truly value good discussion.

Don't take this personally. I'm giving you my honest thoughts. I know this is going to sound harsh, but I'm not going to BS you.

So by your logic should I be in japan?

You shouldn't be here period, because we shouldn't have allowed miscegenation nor immigration from non-European countries. That's not your fault.

A group of many people with the same bloodline is a family. A group of many families is a community. A group of many communities is a state and a group of many states is a nation.

When you start doing stuff like this:

I’m married to a white (primarily British/Scottish) man, so where would my child belong once he is an adult and we are dead?

The community has failed. Hundreds of years of history, cultures and traditions flushed down the toilet because people couldn't resist various temptations.

Your kid will end up as an outcast. They won't quite be Mexican, so they aren't going to fit in with that group. They sure as hell aren't anything else, so they are unlikely to fit into those group either. The best thing you could do is marry another Mexican and turn what would be half Mexican into 3/4th Mexican.

If I were to be forced into Mexico bc of my lineage, I would feel that is unfair. I was born and raised here, I’ve paid taxes, this is my country.

The only thing in life that is fair for everyone is that we all die. What we did to the Native's wasn't fair. What our politicians have done to this country isn't fair. Fixing the problem that we have is not going to be done in a fair way either.

Last question, how would you address the vast differences in living standards between countries?

This is where you really aren't going to like what I'm going to say. The average IQ of South and Central America is not very high. Mexico's system has been failing for a long time and considering they are about to vote in a socialist, I don't see that changing any time soon.

Okay first: if you’re saying I shouldn’t be here period, then neither should you. Because going back to native Americans, you are not from here and therefore shouldn’t be here. So that’s kind of awkward. Am I following your logic?

Second, I honest to god laughed out loud when you said the community has failed. I think you should expand your mind and think past race. I thought if I showed you that I am mixed and I have a beautiful (maybe I’m biased as his mom but strangers stop me when we are in public and tell me how beautiful he is, they somehow come to the conclusion that he is full Italian...) mixed child that it’s not as big a deal as you’re making it. Race mixing is not a bad thing. No one is being forced to marry outside their race, unless you can show me proof of this that is what I will believe.

I also think you somehow managed to describe what it’s like to be a mixed person. You don’t fit in anywhere, but I still have friends of all races and a family because my race has no impact on any of that. And no, I’m not going to marry a Mexican man lol. Correct me if I’m wrong but Mexicans are the product of Spain (Europeans) colonizing the native population. So isn’t every Mexican mixed anyway?

You still didn’t address my inequality between nations question. If I am a citizen and have lived here my whole life why should I be forced to move somewhere far far worse? Simply because of my skin color or who my parents are? I’m not trying to attack I just fail to see the logic in this. I am a human and if you are going to judge me on my race then I think you need to look inward and ask what makes you and me so different.

Okay first: if you’re saying I shouldn’t be here period, then neither should you.

Whites have built this country. This is an undeniable fact. Without Whites this country would be the Africa of the West. It's nothing for the majority of Hispanics to go back to their home countries. They speak the language already for the most part and they will fit right in. Most Hispanics are not assimilating and I'm not even suggesting they should, because assimilation has caused Whites to lose their whole identities - this is the real reason why so many people are unhappy. We feel like we have nothing because we traded it all to assimilate.

I'm willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to fight for this country. The people who are using this country as their shopping mall are not going to be willing to fight. The second shit hits the fan(and it's going to when the 70% who funds the other 30% become the 40% who fund the other 60%) they will be on the first plane out of here, never to return. Whites don't have anywhere to go anymore, and we have no choice but to fight. Germany's being ruined. England's gone. France is gone. Australia is gone. Italy's waking up and if you would have told me that Poland and Hungary were the most woke groups in Europe, I don't think most people would believe you.

If we fight for this country and lose, that's nothing to be embarrassed about. But if we let this country be invaded through immigration and don't do a damn thing to stop it, we deserve whatever is coming.

Second, I honest to god laughed out loud when you said the community has failed. I think you should expand your mind and think past race.

The community has failed. My ancestors grew up in an Italian community in the US. Their neighbors were Italian. Their coworkers were mostly Italian. The local stores were Italian and of course they all went to Italian churches. They spoke in Italian. They had much in common so they had little to fight about but they got soft. They stopped teaching their home languages, they had less kids, they started marrying with non-Italians, they stopped going to church so much, people moved and now the community is about as Italian as the local Pizza Hut. What they lost is gone forever here and it's going to take multiple generations of work to get it back.

This is the game plan for Hispanics and Asians and this has already happened to Blacks.

I thought if I showed you that I am mixed and I have a beautiful (maybe I’m biased as his mom but strangers stop me when we are in public and tell me how beautiful he is, they somehow come to the conclusion that he is full Italian...) mixed child that it’s not as big a deal as you’re making it.

There are good looking people of almost every race minus blacks, but if my ancestors intended for me to be non-White, I'd be non-White. Since they are gone and can no longer speak for themselves, I have to speak for them and do my best to carry on their wills. This isn't about me. This is for them.

Race mixing is not a bad thing.

It is. When two tribes mix, one will always be forced to take the minor role. When you race mix, you change thousands of years of evolution for your own selfish desires.

No one is being forced to marry outside their race, unless you can show me proof of this that is what I will believe.

People are certainly being encouraged. Watch some TV. The majority of commercials now feature black/white couples, even though those are only 1 million total in the US. The fucking elites are trying to convince us that a royal family which would have had a brother and sister marry to preserve a line are now okay with blacks being in the royal family. W A K E U P.

Spain (Europeans)

Most of us on the far right do not consider Spain to be White. I don't.

So isn’t every Mexican mixed anyway?

I do not know the full history of Mexico, but Mexicans and various Indian groups are almost indistinguishable.

If I am a citizen and have lived here my whole life why should I be forced to move somewhere far far worse? Simply because of my skin color or who my parents are?

We do not care about trying to be fair. White's fairness is our weakness, hence Hitler once saying he wished Catholicism was at strict as Islam. The only thing that is fair is that we all die and Whites will be dead in the US unless action is taken soon.

Whatever way we have to do it, we have to take this country back.

ask what makes you and me so different.

As a whole, Hipsanics and Whites are different in Race, DNA, Average IQ, Looks, Food, Political Stances, Rates of Government Assistance Usage, Culture, etc. In short, everything.

What game plan? Do you think there is a meeting held each Friday and they serve tacos? I’m done with this conversation. You lost me when you said whites built this country. You you know slavery was a thing right? What specifically makes white races superior?

Also I never said Spain was white, but you cannot deny that it is European. How is that still not considered mixing.

You seem pretty cemented in your views. I don’t understand how one can be so full of hate and superficially obsessed with skin color or race. You should learn more about the history of Mexico as well.

I suggest you get off the internet for a bit. There are forces that feed and benefit on division and fear. Don’t fall for it. Glad we could exchange ideas civilly and I hope you find peace with yourself.

What game plan?

Importing millions of 3rd world immigrants to become new age slaves who will vote hard left for free gibs which will give TPTB full control over the US.

Do you think there is a meeting held each Friday and they serve tacos?

I'm sure the Council on Foreign Relations have tacos now and then.

You lost me when you said whites built this country.

Tell me this country would be in the same spot it is now with only Native Americans. Look at how fast things went to shit as soon as Whites left Rhodesia and South Africa.

You you know slavery was a thing right?

It still is a thing, only instead of black people, big companies use illegal immigrants who get paid $2 an hour under the table, work 14 hour days with no real safety precautions and can be fired at any time since they aren't on the books as actual employees anyway.

The US taking in Blacks as slaves was the best thing that ever happened to them. There's a reason none of them want to go back to their homelands.

What specifically makes white races superior?

You obviously find something attractive about them since you are with one. And it's evident your ancestors did as well since you are have some White blood in you.

Blacks are strong in athletics. Whites are masters of war and nation building. Asians are quite smart. Jews may be even smarter since they managed to win territory in a war that didn't even involve them and since they own 4 of the 5 big TV conglomerates, 2 of the 3 big music companies and all 6 of the big movie companies, where they can control the message.

I don’t understand how one can be so full of hate and superficially obsessed with skin color or race.

It's not about hate. I take a bus sometimes when I do, I'm usually the only White person on it. I realize that less than 30 years ago, that same bus would have been almost all White. I see my community, which use to have its own identity look like every other community. I see the Chinese taking spots in our best schools, which make it harder for Americans to progress. I see the best jobs in the US being occupied by foreigners. I see illegals lowering wages by taking bare bones pay rates while sending all the money back home. I see a group that makes up 13% of the population committing 52% of the crime while our media fawns over them like flies on shit and see every shortcoming of their's blamed on us.

It makes me fucking sad to see the best country in the world head down its demise and seeing anyone who dares try to contest it be called a racist and a nazi. It makes me sad to know that Whites are going to be the minority in their own damn country in less than 20 years by people who don't give a single fuck about it while the media celebrates like something out of 1984.

It's not about hate.

Ha

Regular meetings of WPA, white people anonymous, I guess.

If white people are so amazing, how did y'all let it get like this? You had a whole race enslaved less than 200 years ago. What a shit race. Y'all could fuck up a wet dream

If white people are so amazing, how did y'all let it get like this?

Communism.

At least half of these goals already happened or are in the process of happening - http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/watchwomanonthewall/2011/04/the-45-communist-goals-as-read-into-the-congressional-record-1963.html

I also think Catholicism has been distorted to make people think that it's okay to let other people walk all over you, when that's not the case. Jesus had no problem taking care of business.

Sounds like white folk just can't handle the responsibility. From my perspective, you look like a teenager that's driven the car into a ditch, and now you want the keys back.

We will be alright. We are getting to the point in the cycle where hard times create strong men again.

Lol. We may habe fucked up the last 20k years, but trust us, we're superior. It's pathetic really...

I don't know who we is, but it's certainly no group that is living off the government.

but it's certainly no group that is living off the government.

I forgot that there are no poor white people who are getting help from the government. /s

There are and I find those people abusing that system equally disgusting.

"We will be alright. We are getting to the point..."

"I don't know who we is"

people like you make white genocide sound pretty great tbh

And I'm white

And I'm white

If you're Jewish, then you aren't White.

White genocide seems like a good idea.

Can't wait for you to be a minority and finally be treated like how you've treated others for millennia.

You seem to have a lot of hate in your heart, which I think is almost certainly and intentionally caused by propaganda. I understand that you feel that you're treated unfairly because you are a minority, but I doubt that is reality. People tend to want to blame their problems on some external source, and I think that is likely the case here.

Communism rules.

Genuinely hope you get gulaged.

Your hopes and wishes are completely meaningless to me, but I realize that there are many out like you who would like to see another Bolshevik-style revolution. That would certainly make things interesting!

Yasssss eat the rich , but only the white ones of course

Enjoy your fantasy, I suppose!

Says the prepper lol

You guy's brains are mush it's clearly a joke

Rule 10

Advocating violence.

Advocating genocide.

I'm Anglo af babycakes

Of course you are, Moishe!

Well considering white doesn't actually denote an ethnicity it gets a little hazy but my lineage is German Irish.

Do y'all really think anyone poking fun at ethnostatists online is Jewish?

Must be exhausting

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You do realize if that happens, your head will be wanted as well, right?

Nuh uh

Advocating genocide.

Nuh uh

I'm saying if it did exist, which it doesn't, dumbasses like this guy actually make it sound pretty great.

Can't advocate for something that doesn't exist.

Rule 10

I can't see the rules on mobile so this pretty worthless.

Is rule ten "don't say bad words like dumbass"?

There should be some sort of info button at the top of your page that will take you to the sub rules.

Huh that's cool thanks

On Reddit is Fun it appears as an "I" icon to the right of r/conspiracy at the top of the page.

Cool!

Wait aren't you breaking the shit out of rule two?

Goddammit I just broke rule two!

Is falsely accusing others of advocating for genocide against any of the rules?

Crap broke rule two again.

I'm a mod. Rule 2 doesn't really apply when my job is to call out Rule breaking.

Isn't a mods job to remove offending posts not comment about rule breaking which is also ironically against the rules?

Is my comment removed ? I can't tell, wouldn't blame y'all.

You mean is it breaking a rule when we notate what rule was broken when we remove a comment? No, that is expected of us.

Oh the comments are removed ?

We good then carry on

Communism.

Half true. Jews are a much bigger threat.

If white people are so amazing, how did y'all let it get like this?

Like what? White people are still responsible for the vast majority of technological innovation. I don't know what race you are, but your quality of life is largely thanks to the White race. I don't expect you to appreciate or understand that, though. If I weren't White, I'd also be ashamed to admit it.

It's nice to see an account you have suspicions of just drop all pretenses. Trash

Everything I said was factually correct, sorry that hurts your feelings.

Haha if my feelings got hurt by racist scum comments I'm reading the wrong sub.

How is it racist to make that objectively true statement? I'm not saying the White race is "superior," I think that is entirely subjective and I actually don't believe that.

but if you don't understand how people might think you're racist when you say things like

If I weren't White, I'd also be ashamed to admit it.

Then your grasp on reality leaves a lot to be desired

That's fair. But I'm a bit ashamed to admit that East Asians have a higher average IQ and commit less crime than Whites. I'm also a bit ashamed that Blacks are generally more athletic and stronger than Whites. And I'm a bit ashamed to admit that Hispanics tend to be better and more efficient with their hands, etc.

Well, you said there’s no good looking black people, and that race mixing is bad. But I’m half black and I can 100% guarantee I’m way more attractive than you. So there’s two factually incorrect statements just scanning your bullshit

Well, you said there’s no good looking black people, and that race mixing is bad.

You're thinking of the other guy, I didn't say that. I'm White and my wife is Japanese so that would make me quite a hypocrite.

I'm glad that you take can take pride in your appearance, though. Self-confidence is a good thing, and I wouldn't doubt that you are attractive.

Fuck that was the other guy, my bad. I still think you put too much emphasis on race, but I’m not going to jump straight to calling you racist since you don’t seem malicious. But I would argue that upbringing and societal conditions are bigger factors than race and make your “objective facts” misleading.

That's a reasonable position to take. I think that humans are animals, after all, and that the different races are actually different sub-species of humans. Once you think of it in that way, you have to admit that the races are "different." And they are obviously genetically different just by their physical appearance, it doesn't make sense for the brain to somehow be excluded from those differences.

But I would argue that upbringing and societal conditions are bigger factors than race and make your “objective facts” misleading.

I agree that those definitely play a huge role as well. This is an age-old debate, nature versus nurture. It seems clear to me that both are important.

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If I weren't White, I'd also be ashamed to admit it.

This is what your mods are defending

I'm not reading the drivel from either one of you. Attack the argument, not the person.

And don't even think about trying to drag me into this garbage or imply I'm taking any sort of a position because of your rule violation.

If I weren't White, I'd also be ashamed to admit it.

This is what your mods are defending

If Jews are white then sure.

Bow down before the master race goy scum.

Jewish people are certainly impressive, I won't deny that. But they generally play the role of middle-man in society, they are not as often creators. They are also very good at looking out for their own and helping each other to be successful. But, they are not as innovate and creative, so they are not responsible for much of the art and beauty, or the technological advances in civilization.

This is full of shit

So many inventors of important shit are Jewish.

Just because you don’t know about the contributions Jewish people have made to science, technology and the arts doesn’t mean they haven’t made contributions. Truly a stupid thing for you to think.

Yes, of course there are famous Jewish scientists and artists, I never said that there weren't. But look throughout recent history, the Renaissance and classical music, architecture, the vast majority of scientific advances, etc. They are responsible for very little of what has made civilization great. Much of the modern art that is dominated by Jewish people is degenerate and lacking in real quality. And Einstein is way, way overrated, by the way.

You’re obviously a moron, and I’m not going to entertain any of the stupid shit you just said. If Jewish people aren’t responsible for a majority of the contributions to society, guess what, it’s probably related to the fact that they’re a minority. They weren’t renaissance painters? Probably has to do with them getting expelled from every country they sought refuge in.

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Most of that innovation has come over the last 200 years. About the length of time we've been race mixing. I say, more race mixing!!!

I'm doing my part!

That's strange because you seem a bit like a racist

I think we are all racist to some extent, whether we admit it or not. I think that there are genetic differences between the races, and that those differences predispose us to certain traits and behaviors. Perhaps that is a racist view to take, although I think it is also the most reasonable view to take.

Only a racist would say everyone's a racist...

Only a racist would spend their time calling other people racist...

That makes no sense...

Sort of like the comment it was in response to.

Embrace it dude. You're clearly racist, why be afraid of what some brown people's opinion is...

If I'm racist, then you definitely are. Are you embracing it?

That’s not true

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My ancestors grew up in an Italian community in the US. Their neighbors were Italian. Their coworkers were mostly Italian. The local stores were Italian and of course they all went to Italian churches. They spoke in Italian.

You're not White you swarthy olive skin pretender. You're just as much mongrel as the Spaniards. Get mongrel ass back to your Papist Mediterranean shit hole. /s

Some Italians are definitely closer to brown than White, but I'm not one of them.

It's still in your DNA you mud. Get the fuck out of my country.

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You can lie to yourself how ever you want. Your wop grandparents probably spermed jacked some poor English sap or raped a nice German lass ending up with your dumb mongrel ass.

some poor English sap

Nope. Too far away.

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Nice post, and you triggered the Top Mind brigaders. Well done!

Appreciate it! Their bridging has definitely not gone unnoticed. They can downvote all they want though, it means nothing, because the true people of this sub know to read the downvoted comments.

England is fine, stop guzzling down US conservative propaganda about Europe, you end up seeming either gullible or delusional when you inevitably encounter a European.

My ancestors grew up in an Italian community in the US. Their neighbors were Italian. Their coworkers were mostly Italian. The local stores were Italian and of course they all went to Italian churches. They spoke in Italian. They had much in common so they had little to fight about but they got soft. They stopped teaching their home languages, they had less kids, they started marrying with non-Italians, they stopped going to church so much, people moved and now the community is about as Italian as the local Pizza Hut. What they lost is gone forever here and it's going to take multiple generations of work to get it back.

.....why not just live in Italy then?

I don't they had any idea of the cultural genocide that would be going down.

but why don’t you go then?

Because this country can be saved.

doesn't really make any sense. you want to live in a community in which everyone fully participates in a different country's culture, why not just go live in that country? I don't see how reverting back to the community you described is really saving anything...

Like I said, I don't believe anyone's ancestors knew the hard left turn this country was going to take. Had they known, I don't think they would have even came here.

I mean, they obviously had to have known that they would be giving up aspects of their culture when moving to a different country. If you think your ancestors intended to come to America to only associate with Italians and to only participate in Italian culture why would they have left Italy to begin with?

would they have left Italy to begin with?

To get away from wars.

so you agree that they definitely understood that by leaving, they knew they were going to have to make culture changes and their intent was not to come to America and live life exactly how they had in Italy?

They didn't make big cultural changes. It was their descendants that did.

They 100% made big cultural changes when moving to America, and were well aware that their descendants would be part of a culture that differed from the one that they immigrated from. They 100% came to America knowing that down the line you would never experience Italian culture like they did and they were totally okay with that otherwise they would've stayed where they were.

Your entire idea that "saving" America means reverting to the America you ancestors knew is ridiculous because your ancestors never intended for America to remain that way to begin with...

Your entire idea that "saving" America means reverting to the America you ancestors knew is ridiculous because your ancestors never intended for America to remain that way to begin with...

I disagree. Maybe they hoped they growing their lifestyle, not killing it.

They 100% came to America knowing that down the line you would never experience Italian culture like they did and they were totally okay with that otherwise they would've stayed where they were.

Haha nice false flag dude. Your comment about Spaniards and Whites intermarrying makes it obvious you're playing divide and conquer and trying to make us look bad.

Spain is not probably going to be in the top 10 of countries that people deem White.

The princesses of Spain are coming along nicely though.

They're like preteens you fucking creep.

Somehow, I am not even mad about your comments.

It's clear you are fanatical, and I feel you already have countless problems in your everyday life

I feel you already have countless problems in your everyday life

I'm pretty good.

Whites don't have anywhere to go anymore, and we have no choice but to fight. Germany's being ruined. England's gone. France is gone. Australia is gone. Italy's waking up and if you would have told me that Poland and Hungary were the most woke groups in Europe, I don't think most people would believe you.

I'm willing to bet your passport (if you even have one) isn't stamped with any of these places.

People everyday have issues involving countries they've never been to.

I'm honestly not even sure I'd be allowed in England in this point and fuck that big pussy country known as France.

How does it feel to have your entire breadth of knowledge on foreign countries be based on greentext memes and shitty image macros?

I'm honestly not even sure I'd be allowed in England

This speaks volumes about you as a human being.

go back to italy where you belong, loser

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In the West Coast and Southwestern U.S., hispanics have always lived here and been prominent members of their communities even before whites settled. They didn't just show up one day. Your claims about Whites building America don't work west of the Mississippi.

Wait so it boils down to you don't race mix because your anscestors didn't and you want to respect their wishes? You should give yourself a break, man. Life isn't a Bene Gesserit breeding program. We bear no obligation to the dead, and being dead, they naturally don't begrudge us for it!

I think, if you want to get people to stop thinking about race, you need to get them thinking about something else.

It appears to me that he believes that: 1. A community must have strong indelible ties 2. Race is the only way to endure that.

It seems to me that you might change his view more effectively by getting at the core premise of his belief rather than outright rejecting the entire chain of thought.

There’s an old black man that is kind of famous for this. Assume that his concerns are legitimate, and then convince him that race is not the cause of the problem.

In Korea, when the Koreans complain about the way that foreigners act, I tell them that they are right, and they should be angry, and I will listen and try to help. You don’t have to say the same, but you need to recognize his humanity if you ever want him to recognize yours.

You do realize that his kid will end up a "social outcast"... because of you, and people like you, right?

Maybe they are trying to tell people something...

So I'm half Japanese, and I'm not an outcast, probably because in my community (in the US) people aren't that preoccupied with race. It doesn't dictate your social circle. I don't think it's internally consistent to decry race mixing whe there is extreme diversity amongst "white" ethnicites that you are ok mixing. You generalize white nationalities as part of the same monolithic culture being diluted by miscenation. That's just not the case.

In addition, Asian Americans on average are more educated and earn more than White Americans. They also have stronger associations with the traits you find to be worth promoting in bloodlines, like familialism, nationalism, and discipline. Are you also opposed to Whites interbreeding with other races to increase their genetic fitness?

So essentially we need an anthropologist to redraw the map so that Culture A exists in and only in location B? Sounds difficult without the whole forced expulsion/mass homicide deal.

To that effect do we allow Norwegians to mix with Celts or Anglo-Saxons with Eastern Europeans (they do have quite a few central asiatic traits)? Will everyone need a DNA test at birth so they can be deported to their proper genetic homeland?

So essentially we need an anthropologist to redraw the map so that Culture A exists in and only in location B?

The world has had its maps re-written thousands of times.

Sounds difficult without the whole forced expulsion/mass homicide deal.

I have no problem with forced expulsion. It wouldn't be the first time it's been done here.

i.e. your predecessors from the early 20th century dropped the ball.

They absolutely did but when we are faced with physical and cultural genocide, we have no choice.

Yeah I have no problem with map changes (though ethnically based forced expulsion sounds pretty fucked up to me) the relevant fact for someone of your persuasion is that partitioning the global population along ethnicity is not a straightforward thing in the first place, as far as ethnicity goes "african" means absolutely nothing. As I mentioned regarding actual ethnic groups (which you didn't respond to) today there are Nilotic south Sudanese Nilotic folks practicing animism living next to someone in Uganda descendent from the Bantu; their average height and facial features more distinct than the Irish compared to Sicilians.

The comical (white, black, orientals, arabs) categorization (which I presume you're running on) fails to capture one feature which is found throughout a given race; you could find a pair in any group who differ from each other as much as they may differ from another "race", each group probably contains 1000s of incompatible cultures. Trying to partition humans into cultural groups is a task only a one world totalitarian regime could complete.

I feel you may be afraid of the end-game world where we all look like tiger woods and like I said it's fine for people to want to preserve their culture. I just don't think that little factoid is gonna happen. You and your kindred minds will always be able to form a enclave away from the dreadful mixed folk (at least in our lifetime and barring something apocalyptic which fucks over more than just racial supremacists).

Here's a though experiment, you cleanse the white lands and now you and all the white folk of the world are together at last, free at last. When you, a South African, a Swede, an Italian, a Pole, a Macedonian and a Serb sit down to decide how white-land works, will perfect harmony prevail or would you have the same old disagreements you had before we miraculously reversed ethnical entropy?

(though ethnically based forced expulsion sounds pretty fucked up to me)

If you don't take care of an infection in its early stages, it can spread to the whole body. And instead of just putting on a band-aid, you end up with amputations.

As I mentioned regarding actual ethnic groups like the Anglo-Saxons (which you didn't respond to) today there are south Sudanese Nilotic folks practicing animism living next to some Christian in Uganda descendent from the Bantu; their average height differs by almost a foot and the facial features are more distinct than the Irish compared to Sicilians.

Trying to partition humans into cultural groups is a task only a one world totalitarian regime could complete.

I'm worried about the US, not Uganda, the Anglo-Saxons and the Sudan.

You and your kindred minds will always be able to form a enclave away

Our enclave is the entire United States.

When you, a South African, a Swede, an Italian, a Pole, a Macedonian and a Serb sit down to decide how white-land works, will perfect harmony prevail or would you have the same old disagreements you had before we miraculously reversed ethnical entropy?

Again, I'm worried about the US.

are you ok being forcibly relocated out of the usa by native americans and back to where your ancestors came from?

The real truth are the comments buried in the downvotes

Do you believe it’s realistically possible to rewind the natural course of civilizations? It’s inevitable with technology and free markets that cultures and ethnic spheres will overlap and have to learn to coexist in a peaceful manner in order to survive. Do you believe in nature over nurture? I take it you’re not a big fan of Star Trek, which envisions all cultures somewhat uniting under western customs and practices.

Do you believe it’s realistically possible to rewind the natural course of civilizations?

We've done it thousands of times. How do you think Whites got here? What do you think is happening now with millions of illegal immigrants? That's not natural. I will gaurantee you that if Whites never touched North America, things wouldn't be much different here than they were 400 years ago.

It’s inevitable with technology and free markets that cultures and ethnic spheres will overlap and have to learn to coexist in a peaceful manner in order to survive.

Many races and countries made it thousands of years without much change.

Whites and Asians will be fine. White's have invented just about anything of significance for the last century anyway. I do not think we would suffer much at all if non-Whites disappeared tomorrow. The 13% of the population that commits 52% of the crime would be gone, making things a lot more peaceful and the group of 50 million with 80% of them being on government assistance would give us tons of new cash to do amazing things with.

Do you believe in nature over nurture?

The races with the highest average IQ's in the world are Whites, Asians and the Ashkenazi Jews. The races with the lowest IQ's are the ones migrating into our countries.

I take it you’re not a big fan of Star Trek, which envisions all cultures somewhat uniting under western customs and practices.

I'm actually a huge fan of Star Trek, though I refuse to watch STD and hope that show dies. I get why people think it's a left leaning show, but to me it was always right wing:

  • Races are always treated in a racist way. Klingon's are always violent and the Vulcan's are always smart. Sure, one or two here and there might not be like that, but the series always makes it clear that those people are defective rejects. If you learn nothing else from this series, it's that other races are different and even if they try not to be, it's hard because of their DNA.

  • The Enterprise crew and government usually uphold the law and don't give into feelings. People who don't are often punished, even if it's for the right reasons. The crew often times lets bad shit happen due to not wanting to break rules.

  • Violence and fighting are answers to most Star Trek problems, especially in TOS. Kirk and crew fight someone just about every episode.

  • TOS LOVES right-wing groups. There's a nazi ep and there's a roman ep. It's pretty clear Roddenberry had some interest in these people.

  • The various races are all pretty rich culturally, with the humans really being the only ones who aren't. They have religions, traditions, customs and totally different ways of life.

  • At least in TOS, this show would not support any forced immigration or foreign involvement. They make it clear that when foreigners from other places are introduced to a civilization, it's bad because it harms their natural evolution and path.

Which major inventions were those? For the record...

I really would like to read more about this imaginary world where "races and countries made it thousands of years without much change". Crack a book about European history -- from the schism of the Roman Empire to the fall of the USSR, the continent was a revolving wheel of migrations, conquest and colonization. Nothing stands still, and myths about an idyllic, long-standing association between a particular ethnic group and a particular piece of land are just that -- myths.

Going out of your way to downplay nazi horrors isn't doing your cause any favors

I don't buy the official story of the Holohaux and I believe it was cleverly designed to destroy Naziism.

That's..... ridiculous.

There's a reason denying it is illegal in 16 countries. There's something TPTB doesn't want us to know.

Lol theres lots of speech that isnt legal. In basically every country but the US, and even here still some of it. And what truth? How would it change civilization? How much of your day to day life is governed by the holocaust?? Lol

And what truth?

Tough wartime conditions during a losing war and bad weather that caused a few thousand to perish were used to create an illegal nation and further a narrative which has caused hundreds of thousands to die and made a mess of the Middle East. Not to mention all the trouble it has brought to Germany and Whites.

How would it change civilization?

How do you think Palestine, Iraq, Egypt, Syria and Saudia Arabia would feel if they found out if they knew Israel was built off a lie that has brought endless war and tons of deaths and destruction? I think they'd invade in record time.

Lol interesting

So you want to live in the world's biggest trailer park? What happens when you feel like Mexican food? Or Italian for that matter? (Assuming that you're going with a strict interpretation of Aryan)

Consider also that by Nazi standards, you yourself might not be able to qualify for residency based on your anscestory and medical history.

Anyone that considers themselves a Nazi nowadays would’ve been the first people gassed back then lol

I never downvote, but I felt a patriotic obligation to do so for this post

The enemies were the Jews as they controlled the Russians, British, and of course the Americans.

Yuck!

Man you literally just said the nazis weren’t that bad. Even if you don’t think the holocaust happened, what you just said rivals the dumbest statements in all....LITERALLY ALL of history...

Man you literally just said the nazis weren’t that bad

They legitimately wouldn't be seen as that bad if the Holohaux didn't happen.

They would legitimately be seen as bad. The victor is correct the loser is bad this is how all of history has been, they lost so=bad. Not to mention, even if the holocaust didn’t happen they still tried to literally conquer all of Europe.....still bad bud

The central theme of the Nazi ideology was the final solution, a supreme and superior race. That was their thoughts then and it is now, if you want to agree with SOME of their philosophy there are many thought processes/philosophies/parties that share some similarities. Like those. Not the fucking nazis man. You’re on the losing side here no matter how much you try to spin it. Nazis=bad. Not a Nazi=still potential for bad but at least you’re NOT A FUCKING NAZI!!! It’s not hard dude...

They wouldn't have even been seen as bad if they didn't commit genocide u guys are overreacting they made one mistake

They really didn't though. They did put some people in camps, but they were losing the war and conditions got bad due to it. The NWO and the Allies then used it to create the state of Israel and to destroy nationalism.

That does not help your point, like at all. I'd rather be killed than put in a concentration camp.

Get killed = no chances to survive

Get put in a camp = good chance of survival

I know which one I'll take.

Please do take that option

Yeah, that's easy for you to say.

They would torture, mutilate and execute allied POWs... our soldiers We were fed up enough to send millions of men across the ocean to stop their bullshit, without the Haulocaust being public knowledge yet.

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You're being downvoted to hell, but I'd like to give you props for at least speaking out and using your free speech rights. Those ideas are indeed a little difficult to grapple with, and maybe talking about them is a good way to deal with them. I don't necessarily agree with your ideas, but I'm upvoting you for saying out loud exactly what was in your mind, filters down. Cheers.

nazi sympathizer

regular poster on the_donald

just another coincidence I guess

haha I'm banned from TD. They aren't ready for that red pill yet.

from a foreign policy perspective, both parties are nazis

I think we all are. But I've said it before and I'll say it again. That sub has been compromised for a long time.

It was taken over in a very cloak and dagger manner in the middle of the race. I forget specifics but it was quite hostile and a large sum of money changed hands.

Was it when everyone got locked out?

Way before, but shortly before the whole ohsnapyougotserved drama unfolded. Her removal was part of the cleansing.

Can you please explain this and the specific evidence?

Exactly. Israel is Americans ally. Palestine isnt. Palestine is a terrorist state ran by terrorist. Why is this sub suddenly pro-palestine?

mission accomplished then

Zionists are pretty clearly the equivalent or worse of the Nazis

Starting to see that the nazis may have been the good guys? Well that's anti-semetic hate speech, arrest this person.

No; I’m really just looking for more substantive and novel information from this sub than name-calling.

The information you are looking for in hate-speech and anti-semetic in nature. It's like someone looking at gay porn and swearing that they are straight

CNN will school ya.

You are overcomplicating this. The Nazis are anybody who opposes Israeli criminality. Before Trump completely submitted to Israel, he was a Nazi. Once he invades Iran, he will become an anti-Nazi. The Palestinians, despite being victims of Israeli genocide, are Nazis who persecute Israel by dying.

but NeoNazis love Israel, at least some are making the news:

http://archive.is/OIbXl "Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer says he turns to Israel “for guidance”"

http://archive.is/fGUrK "German neo-Nazi lawmaker charged with hate speech is big Israel fan"

http://archive.is/xISHT "Austria’s neo-Nazis find friends in Israel"

Wasn't there an Israeli who was pretending to be a white supremacist in social media forums and was eventually caught?

Ashkenazi

Indeed:
http://archive.is/OIbXl "Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer says he turns to Israel “for guidance”"

http://archive.is/fGUrK "German neo-Nazi lawmaker charged with hate speech is big Israel fan"

http://archive.is/xISHT "Austria’s neo-Nazis find friends in Israel"

I think it's less that theyre zionist shills, and more that they're just trying to prevent giving ammunition to the tons of pussies that want t_d banned

The evangelicals and thereby the GOP need the Jews in Israel for the second coming of Jesus Christ.

The evangelicals and thereby the GOP need the Jews in Israel for the second coming of Jesus Christ.

you're referring to a heresy which is less than 200 years old and which was heavily backed by, guess who, zionists

What exactly is this heresy? The handoff of Mandatory Palestine to the European Zionists? The fall of the Ottoman Empire? Japan invading Korea?!

Forgive me I just don't see how the supposed lead up plan to initiate the apocalypse is so obviously connected to something which happened in the last two hundred years to describe it simply as an atrocity that happened less than two hundred years ago.

It’s in the book of revelations and it’s what the evangelicals believe. The religious base of the Republican Party. It predates the Zionist movement by over a thousand years.

The interpretation was made by a man who ran with the Zionists: CI Scofield. His study Bible has had a widespread influence on evangelical Christians.

The interpretation was made by a man who ran with the Zionists: CI Scofield. His study Bible has had a widespread influence on evangelical Christians.

this guy (gal?)1 gets it

  1. gal gadot???

Bonnie

It’s in the book of revelations

there is no "book of revelations" in the Bible; the mention of the "book of revelations" is one of the surest signs that someone doesn't know what they're talking about when they're discussing apocalyptic literature.

in regard to the book of Revelation (or, as i prefer to call it, the Apocalypse), please quote the portion which states that israel as presently constituted must exist in order for Christ to return.

and it’s what the evangelicals believe.

actually, there is a spectrum of belief in evangelicalism regarding zionism, and the most prominent shills for israel in the current american religious scene -- such as john hagee -- are pentecostals.

evangelicalism is also less than 300 years old.

The fact that you’re nitpicking the plurality of the name says all anyone needs to know about the invalidity of any argument you’re attempting to make.

The fact that you’re nitpicking the plurality of the name says all anyone needs to know about the invalidity of any argument you’re attempting to make.

i take it that you can't quote a relevant portion of Revelation, then?

I'm just an observer in this argument but it's obvious that they down vote you because they are unable to accept your challenge and would rather you just disappear.

I'm just an observer in this argument but it's obvious that they down vote you because they are unable to accept your challenge and would rather you just disappear.

story of my life

I think its hilarious to see some users a month ago blaming Jews for everything but now that people are blaming Trump for supporting jews to much, those same users are supporting Jews and trump. Its the most hypocritical thing ever. The right can manufacture support by creating drama against trump for causes unfavorable to his base so they immediately flip to defend trump. Its pretty genius. I saw the same thing with North Korea lol. Nobel peace Trump a day after they called to nuke Korea lmao.

I'll also like to add how it's hilarious to watch the same fucking group of people who constantly have a fucking meltdown over "MSM!!!1!1" and constantly rail about how MSM lies when it comes to reporting the Trump admins criminal connections

.... Turn right around this past week and parrot every single MSM talking point regarding Israel. The fucking donald sheep in this sub sound just like the fuckin panelists on CNN this week. ;

The irony is so fucking delicious it has to be fattening. They're literally parroting the same exact shit, often word-for-word, that you'd hear on CNN. They're a fucking joke and I'm glad more people in this sub are waking up to them.

It's a cult. A cult that is the embodiment of virtually everything this sub has been against: cult of personality, censorship, pro-Israel, pro-Corporate, pro-propaganda, pro-govt line, pro-neocon, pro-torture... It's absurd how those people so freely infest this place.

spot on

Even more hilarious how posts like this are upvoted to the front of /r/conspiracy yet supposedly this place is "T_D 2.0". Weird how all those T_D subs and "russian bots" would upvote posts like this.

Its the same thing on www.godlikeproductions.com .. I used to go there for my conspiracy news, but it's literally operated by Jews and if you post threads about the real truth they get deleted. They also have a karma system where posters get green points for being good posters or whatever. Somehow all the pro Israel posters have green points.

They all hate on blacks, Muslims and all and yet they have green points. But same thing cannot be said hating on Jews. You will get banned. Fuck the Zionist scum, nobody likes you

lmao you seem fine with hating muslims and blacks, the issue for you is that they don't hate jews enough you really are a piece of shit

Wtf u talking about u Zionist shill?

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Would be funny if T_D takes over reddit like He took over Twitter.

we can dream

When did he take over Twitter?

I'm just a normal person. (Yes I post on the Donald). But Ive always cared about Isreal and protecting Isreal. Especially since they have been constantly attacked by the surrounding countries simply for existing.

You guys have infested minds.

lol i applaud your attempt. "just a normal person" sounds to me like you're one of the "chosen ones" just trying to relate with us normal folk

Lol you got me. Totally a chosen one.

/r/the_donald is probably the most important piece of influence the zionists have

Uhhh no not quite. But otherwise, I agree

Why is this sub promoting Iranian talking points? Why should any of us abandon a progressive first world nation like Israel for Iran?

/s

/s

lol, you wish

Last i checked, Isreal has attacked us more than Iran ever has....

And that's just for starters

I like a lot of what trump has done but he needs to distance himself from war and Israel if he ever wants to retain his popularity

So true. Former t_D subscriber. I always knew MSM was brainwashing bullshit, so when he started attacking them I bought into him as a candidate, then as a president. It wasn't until I started digging deeper (in hindsight, shoulda came here first) that I realized what a Zionist puppet he really is. He just wants to MIGA.

Meanwhile...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/15/bernie_sanders_israel_should_be_condemned_for_killing_unarmed_protesters.html

I know of only two politicians that condemned Israel. Barbara Lee and Bernie

Tulsi Gabbard and Ro Khanna.

Yep, they're good on Israel as well.

lol Bernie..

So true. Former t_D subscriber. I always knew MSM was brainwashing bullshit, so when he started attacking them I bought into him as a candidate, then as a president. It wasn't until I started digging deeper (in hindsight, shoulda came here first) that I realized what a Zionist puppet he really is. He just wants to MIGA.

So your mad a sub that is for only talking about President Trump, and removes your posts about Israel. Got it. Makes complete sense. Go join the soy boy line if your that fickle.

And to think that the Hillary sub is all about love and support for Trump supporters.

ISRAEL FIRST

Bullshit I like trump but I hate his Israel policies. Doesn’t make us soy boys but just aware.

Yeah, I've had to steer clear the last few days. All the israel cheerleading is just insane.

lmao what is this garbage. r/politics (WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIPARTISAN) is the real cesspool, but interestingly enough you made no mention of it..

¯_(ツ)_/¯

WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIPARTISAN

Yeah and Fox News is fair and balanced but then, here we are.

your retort is calling out FOX news? lol. what if I told you that all major news companies are owned by corporations, corporations who have interests of their own. would you believe me? or are you one of the people with your mouth wide open hoping the "news" will spoon feed you the 'correct' opinions and what to think

No but the warble of whataboutism on your part:

r/politics (WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIPARTISAN) is the real cesspool, but interestingly enough you made no mention of it..

When talking about T_D begs of me to use the same tactic in responding to you. What's good for the whatabout goose.

are you a babbling bot? you aren't even OP so I'm a little confused as to why you're continuing to chime in

Because I will never let you TD bots go unchallenged again.

Lmao so you're calling me a bot after a ridiculous comment like that? Holy fuck ok move along now bud hahah

WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIPARTISAN

Says who? I couldn't find anything anywhere that made that claim

oh, so the only main political subreddit on this website is slanted in favor of a party, and you're ok with that? (I say slanted VERY generously)

Just because it's the most popular and one of the oldest doesn't mean it has a duty to be bipartisan.

Show me where it says it's bipartisan.... I'm still waiting

Just because you and your squad of trolls upvote your garbage comment doesn't make it true bud. Gonna have to the that shit elsewhere

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great work

You're always welcome to improve your phrasing.

just to make sure you're being fair, you removed this comment too, right?

Still waiting

Ok troll you do you

The internet in general leans left, this is due to the fact that most old people dont know how to use it.

Op is a millennial cry baby. Self centered, white, son of limousine liberals. Also an anti semite.

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I know for a fact, many are waking up to Israel, even those who voted T_D. That is more of the Rand Paul supporting faction, which is fairly substantial. Some people truly think / thought Donald was going to get us out of the ME wars like Syria.

If Donald takes us further into conflict there, many will revolt. Many were already beginning to revolt when he signed his big spending bill.

Zionist - truth is becoming more mainstream, despite what the trolls or shills want us to think

This^

For people who are anti-Zionist or against Israel, what is the preferred solution to the current Palestinian/Israeli conflict?

Pre-1967 borders.... You know, the ones Israel agreed to before embarking on their illegal expansion for more "Living space" ahem

Do you think that would end the conflict?

I do.

So give them what they couldn't win in armed conflict? Fuck that, as far as I'm concerned that's Israeli land, if they want it they can try and take it.

Right. You're a Israeli Zionist.

I'm not the one debating what you are. I've been saying that about you from the start. Glad you admit it

You're a Nazi for not supporting Israel. See? We can both play this game.

Yeah yeah. We all played this game before.

I don't care what you wanna call me. I'm not a fucking Zionist point period. Next we'll be defending the CIA around here.

I'm glad the Donald shills are finally exposing themselves though. This shit is awesome.

Out! Out! Out!

Over simplification.

I love how this sub is convinced in some grand Jewish propaganda conspiracy, and in doing so, completely neglects to consider the possibility that they're being used as part of an anti-Jewish one. There's only one country in the world that gets constantly bombed, rocketed, and shelled without all-out war in retaliation, and there's only one country in the world whose population's very existence is a point of deep hatred: it's Israel.

The idea that anti-Zionism has no government influences is hilariously ignorant of reality. Both Mossad and the rest of the world's intelligence agencies try to win the propaganda war. The truth is almost always somewhere in the middle, but you've got to pick a side. Either the "wipe them from the map" people should win, or Israel should win. There isn't an alternative in such a starkly contrasted issue. So...I pick Israel. They aren't throwing gays from rooftops, aren't stoning women for being raped, and aren't lopping off heads. Hamas, on the other hand, has routinely used hospitals and schools as human meat shields. Sure, it's a war, but...when you purposefully involve your population in your war strategy, don't get shocked when they get killed along with your troops.

I know anti-semitism is a fairly big thing in conspiracy circles, but y'all could at least pretend to hide it...

ok mr. logical, I am going to provide you with irrefutable proof in the form of a picture which will annihilate your comment. This is the comment I left which was instantly deleted. Try viewing that comment by going to the same URL as shown in the picture https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/8j83ll/so_sad_to_see_the_terror_attack_in_paris_at_some/dyy51ek/?context=3, and you will also see that it is deleted. If there isn't some grand Jewish conspiracy, then why were they so quick to not only delete my comment but do so in a way to prevent me from ever knowing. Sounds pretty conspiratorial to me.

Well put. There's a huge anti-Jewish conspiracy that many people don't know about. Israel is a beacon of liberty in the Middle East, and a scapegoat.

The_Donald isn't a cheerleader for Israel anymore than they are a supporter of freedom and prosperity. What things are there to cheer about in Yemen?

You can be critical of Israeli policies without being an anti-semite. Just like you can be critical of the American government without being anti-American. Do you support everything the American government does? Did you like everything Obama did? How about Bush? Would you have supported Hillary?

Exactly. What's there to cheer about in Yemen when there's a fucking genocide going on that we are funding?

Israel is a beacon of liberty in the Middle East. Would you rather cheer for Israel or Yemen?

beacon of liberty

I mean, it ain't too shabby for the Israelis.

"America First* "

Lol, try to point that out and all of a sudden it’s all part of Trump’s 8D chess game to take out the deep state.

The delusion with the diehards still holding on is unreal.

*to sacrifice its young

Front page of /politics right now: 10/10 top posts about trump, 7/10 [11-20] about trump

only 3/100 posts about Israel

I think it sucks that I can’t be pro Palestine and not be a Jew hater .. or I can’t support Israel and Be a piece of shit. What is it with you people bashing others for the way they think. Judaism is different than Zionism so why can’t I support America in supporting Israel while having sympathy for Palestine at the same time and wanting Palestinians to prosper. Someone is lying to us.

Lmao wow. Not even a month ago it was Russia’s puppet now it’s on to Israel. Who we going with next month I wanna get a jump start on laughing

He's been Israel's puppet all along. Russia was a distraction.

Totesss

I’m a TD guy and I’m always willing to hear alternative points of view.

Shoot me youtube link or short article I’ll read it tomorrow. I’m generally pro Israel. People who elect Hamas and Hezbullah aren’t exactly lovers of freedom.

Bear in mind the mods actively delete stuff because they have to. If they didn’t the concern trolling by leftists would get so out of control every comment would be some fake;,” i vote for trump by why is he fucking up so bad” etc.and TD would be over run. Unfortunately, legit criticism can get deleted in the process. That what r/askthe_donald is for.

Thousands upon thousands of people are working to take down TD.

”i vote for trump by why is he fucking up so bad”

keels over laughing. That must be hard to confront, for good reason.

Shoot me youtube link or short article I’ll read it tomorrow. I’m generally pro Israel.

He admitted it!! He's part of the elitist Illuminati that rules our government!!!!! Don't send links, he's collecting them to gather intel against you!!!

Hurts doesn't it?

Thousands upon thousands of people are working to deceive you!!!!

Bear in mind the mods actively delete stuff because they have to.

How does this guy know what the mods are doing if they aren't a mod???? This smells bad. Why do they have to delete anything, we're a community whose voices need hearing!!

TD’s concern troll policy is right on the side bar. Are you mentally deranged or something?

Well said. A bunch of ignorant hypocrites over there.

That sub was cool in like 2015. It's a rats nest at this point

I have a feeling this movement has been subverted early on.

That's why it was allowed to be so successful.

And why we haven't really accomplished anything in the long run.

I was banned from there for stating I have an inexhaustable well of sympathy for Israel, and no matter how many times they get caught spying on us I'll always be willing to send my kids to fight in their defense. Really illustrates where the allegiances lie.

so they aren't nazis you say? and cnn is fake news?

damn, the_donald was always right.

Yea i got banned from there for asking questions. And i voted for trump because fuck hillary. Fuck that place.

I asked them why they have a staunch support of Israel on /r/AskThe_Donald and a lot of them was just pro-Zionist shit. One called me a ShareBlue shill and the one even responded by merely asking "Why do you want to genocide the Jewish people?"

Just look at their rule #3

That should tell you all you need to know about the special needs members of the_dumbasses

It’s disgusting and disappointing that trump is failing on the Israel front. As well as so many other issues. All while the mainstream media won’t criticize him for the real stuff but encourage him to bomb Syria

People don't understand 4D Chess, it's too complicated to sheeple. All those dead protesters would totally agree on sacrificing themselves to continue the 4d master chess play, they know what is at play.

/s

How anyone can be pro-Israel if they know even the slighest history of Israel and Mossad. Doesnt help general IQ of T_D users is room temperature.

This is not a conspiracy.

Alternatively, we should encourage them to be pro Israel so that Zionism and Trumpism get irrevocably linked.

This is funny to me because for so long the right wingnuts have been blathering about Jews subverting the entire planet and enslaving mankind, and now, apparently because trump embraces Israel's actions, Jews are fine upstanding people who are simply misunderstood.

I'd explain to them that they can't have it both ways but honestly, they won't remember the "first" way and so there's no point.

Can someone please elaborate for those of us who don't know what you're talking about when you say "it's safe to assume that all TD mods are deep state?" Before someone does the Reddit thing and checks my post history to try and divine secret hidden intent behind this question: I read and occasionally post in TD, do not understand this claim, and would genuinely like to know if there's evidence supporting it so that I can adjust my opinion accordingly.

I was banned from the Donald for giving an opinion that was anti-Israel

... Yes I am. I am not religious, but yes, I am a Zionist.

Apparently the deepstate even extends to Reddit mods now. They leave up all the posts exposing themselves though, it's just the Israel ones and ones criticising the president whom they are trying to remove that they don't like. Makes perfect sense.

lol i applaud your attempt. "just a normal person" sounds to me like you're one of the "chosen ones" just trying to relate with us normal folk

It’s safe to assume that all T_D mods are deep state and the sub is heavily monitored.

As is any sub that is as high traffic as T_D is.

Any comment critical of Israel or Zionism gets straight out deleted within a matter of minutes.

Not true. There's a way to be critical of things and the mods will make judgement based on your post history. If you're not a T_D regular and a regular poster in Anti-Trump subs, such as yourself, there is little to no tolerance against abrasive content.

And you won’t even know it got deleted unless you paste the link in an incognito window. The comment still shows to the person who posted it, but is deleted for anyone else.

This is a tool all mods have called shadow banning (I believe).

/r/the_donald is probably the most important piece of influence the zionists have.

That's a pretty big assumption. If the people on T_D were high impact or activists in their community, this might be somewhat true. However, the amount of T_D subscribers vs how many people there are in the real world is an incredibly low percentage (600k vs 7.6 billion) makes this statement very "dis-info"ish.

Just yesterday they had a picture of trump with a yarmulke on touching that wall they love so much as the sub pic. If you look at the posts and top comments, all are pro Israel.

How this makes everyone in the there Jewish heretics, I'm not sure. Usually T_D posters are called Nazis.

They allow no dissent as the comment is instantly deleted. They know how important the user demographics are as they represent a large portion of Americans who are vocal about their beliefs.

I've addressed both of these.

It is important for us to reach out to the users of /r/the_donald through direct messages, as mods will simply delete your posts. Inform them of the true nature of these parasites.

Not sure who you're referring to as parasites, but if you're calling Jewish people parasites, thats a big red flag as to the voracity/viability of your opinion.

either you're an excellent disinfo agent who has mastered the skill of double-speak or you're confused about the true nature of things. Who exactly do you think the left represent? Who do you think funds these SJW protests? Who do you think (at least not recently) smeared Trump throughout the media before and after the elections?

If you're looking to move the goal posts to try to get arguement out of me, it's a waste of time. Your contribution to this sub is the topic I wish to address and why I clicked on it with the intention to post in the first place.

You're welcome to message me (as your informing others to do) and I'd be happy to talk about my stance on topics not relevant to your OP.

Clearly you didn't read the post.

and that's a good thing

I'll also like to add how it's hilarious to watch the same fucking group of people who constantly have a fucking meltdown over "MSM!!!1!1" and constantly rail about how MSM lies when it comes to reporting the Trump admins criminal connections

.... Turn right around this past week and parrot every single MSM talking point regarding Israel. The fucking donald sheep in this sub sound just like the fuckin panelists on CNN this week. ;

The irony is so fucking delicious it has to be fattening. They're literally parroting the same exact shit, often word-for-word, that you'd hear on CNN. They're a fucking joke and I'm glad more people in this sub are waking up to them.

It's a cult. A cult that is the embodiment of virtually everything this sub has been against: cult of personality, censorship, pro-Israel, pro-Corporate, pro-propaganda, pro-govt line, pro-neocon, pro-torture... It's absurd how those people so freely infest this place.

I wish it wasn't Tuesday and you weren't all here.

Way before, but shortly before the whole ohsnapyougotserved drama unfolded. Her removal was part of the cleansing.

I think he’s a comedian

Do you believe it’s realistically possible to rewind the natural course of civilizations?

We've done it thousands of times. How do you think Whites got here? What do you think is happening now with millions of illegal immigrants? That's not natural. I will gaurantee you that if Whites never touched North America, things wouldn't be much different here than they were 400 years ago.

It’s inevitable with technology and free markets that cultures and ethnic spheres will overlap and have to learn to coexist in a peaceful manner in order to survive.

Many races and countries made it thousands of years without much change.

Whites and Asians will be fine. White's have invented just about anything of significance for the last century anyway. I do not think we would suffer much at all if non-Whites disappeared tomorrow. The 13% of the population that commits 52% of the crime would be gone, making things a lot more peaceful and the group of 50 million with 80% of them being on government assistance would give us tons of new cash to do amazing things with.

Do you believe in nature over nurture?

The races with the highest average IQ's in the world are Whites, Asians and the Ashkenazi Jews. The races with the lowest IQ's are the ones migrating into our countries.

I take it you’re not a big fan of Star Trek, which envisions all cultures somewhat uniting under western customs and practices.

I'm actually a huge fan of Star Trek, though I refuse to watch STD and hope that show dies. I get why people think it's a left leaning show, but to me it was always right wing:

  • Races are always treated in a racist way. Klingon's are always violent and the Vulcan's are always smart. Sure, one or two here and there might not be like that, but the series always makes it clear that those people are defective rejects. If you learn nothing else from this series, it's that other races are different and even if they try not to be, it's hard because of their DNA.

  • The Enterprise crew and government usually uphold the law and don't give into feelings. People who don't are often punished, even if it's for the right reasons. The crew often times lets bad shit happen due to not wanting to break rules.

  • Violence and fighting are answers to most Star Trek problems, especially in TOS. Kirk and crew fight someone just about every episode.

  • TOS LOVES right-wing groups. There's a nazi ep and there's a roman ep. It's pretty clear Roddenberry had some interest in these people.

  • The various races are all pretty rich culturally, with the humans really being the only ones who aren't. They have religions, traditions, customs and totally different ways of life.

  • At least in TOS, this show would not support any forced immigration or foreign involvement. They make it clear that when foreigners from other places are introduced to a civilization, it's bad because it harms their natural evolution and path.

Even more hilarious how posts like this are upvoted to the front of /r/conspiracy yet supposedly this place is "T_D 2.0". Weird how all those T_D subs and "russian bots" would upvote posts like this.

I don't buy the official story of the Holohaux and I believe it was cleverly designed to destroy Naziism.

A homogeneous race of brown people would be the ultimate embodiment of racial equality.

Wait for it....except for White people.

In your post you incorrectly state liberals want everyone brown without quoting a single democrat who states such a thing

while he is not to my knowledge a democrat, here's a video of anthony bourdain enunciating precisely that viewpoint

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A homogeneous race of brown people would be the ultimate embodiment of racial equality.

Wait for it....except for White people. So it's not so equal after all, huh? And people like you aren't that much different than the Nazi's you claim to hate. And newsflash, if you are in the US, you will end up on one side of the conflict or the other.

We know diversity means White genocide. That's why it will be stopped.

I don't know who we is, but it's certainly no group that is living off the government.

I can't tell if this is satire or if you really are this disturbed.

No, I just can't believe that anyone would be so racist.

Italian isn't a skin color, African isn't a skin color, Muslim isn't a skin color. Where someone lives and what religion they practice has nothing to do with skin color.

Your ideal America is incredibly racially driven. It is not a vision for a country built upon laws, equality, or human rights.

I question if you actually understand what the first amendment means. You seem like someone who would yell about your right to free speech being infrindged upon by someone telling you to shut up. That is not a violation of the first amendment.

If owning a gun represents what you think it means to be American, you've set the bar pretty low.

The electoral process means (well, it should mean) that all citizens are represented, no matter their skin color or religious preference.

...what? When has American ever been whites only?

Look, maybe you should try to be more inclusive and stop thinking your skin color makes you special in any way.

Commenting on this so I can re-read it later.

Good thing that this will never happen.

I mean, they obviously had to have known that they would be giving up aspects of their culture when moving to a different country. If you think your ancestors intended to come to America to only associate with Italians and to only participate in Italian culture why would they have left Italy to begin with?

They would legitimately be seen as bad. The victor is correct the loser is bad this is how all of history has been, they lost so=bad. Not to mention, even if the holocaust didn’t happen they still tried to literally conquer all of Europe.....still bad bud

The central theme of the Nazi ideology was the final solution, a supreme and superior race. That was their thoughts then and it is now, if you want to agree with SOME of their philosophy there are many thought processes/philosophies/parties that share some similarities. Like those. Not the fucking nazis man. You’re on the losing side here no matter how much you try to spin it. Nazis=bad. Not a Nazi=still potential for bad but at least you’re NOT A FUCKING NAZI!!! It’s not hard dude...

think Italians need to be Italians. I think Africans need to be Africans and Muslims need to be Muslims

Your entire post falls apart due to this statement right here. Even if we all “look” the same....Italians would still be Italian because they’re from Italy. Africans would still be Africans because they’re from Africa. Muslims would still be Muslim because they worship allah. Americans would still be Americans because they either hold citizenship or are born in America (hence holding citizenship). Man you’re from T_D aren’t you because there’s no way someone holds these views unless they worship the God emporer of the US....you sound like one hell of a racist asshole

Yes, of course there are famous Jewish scientists and artists, I never said that there weren't. But look throughout recent history, the Renaissance and classical music, architecture, the vast majority of scientific advances, etc. They are responsible for very little of what has made civilization great. Much of the modern art that is dominated by Jewish people is degenerate and lacking in real quality. And Einstein is way, way overrated, by the way.

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They wouldn't have even been seen as bad if they didn't commit genocide u guys are overreacting they made one mistake

Poland has a long history of being conquered because its geography makes it difficult to defend. That's like saying you aren't a rapist because the woman has a history being raped before. The idea of Germany as a nation didn't exist until the late 19th century, so the "Greater German Empire" did not have a long history of anything at the time the Nazis began inventing reasons to invade their neighbors

Discipline, nationalism and religion aren't high moral values, they are selfish characteristics that prioritize the desires and needs of oneself and one's ingroup over outgroups, and the state over the individual.

Better with what they have, compared to the US. You have 13% poverty but could have 0% if you had some small changes in social transfers. Haiti probably couldn't have 0% poverty, but at least they try to have it.