Israel supports Trump, all of a sudden it's perfectly okay to criticize Israel. Is there anything Trump can't fix?
1 2018-05-17 by Flytape
I find it hilarious that for as long as I can remember any criticism of Israel would get you branded an anti-semite. I myself was often accused as such, but suddenly it's perfectly okay with everyone, news outlets and radio shows. Go ahead! It's open season on Israel now! I have zero problems with anyone criticizing Israel, I encourage it!
What exactly changed? The only thing I can really see that changed is the existing deep state (pro-trump) lost the bid for the 2016 election and now everything it falling apart.
This is the best universe. The instability that Trump has caused in the western power structures in beyond doubt. You don't have to like the guy, I could care less if you do but you can't deny how much bullshit is being exposed during this time of instability.
I fucking love it.
All of a sudden Kim Jong Un was being complimented during the winter games, then he starts hatching a deal with Trump (better hate him again!). Israel is no longer the Media darling it was. Suddenly we love domestic spying, and this Logan ACT back and forth is also hilarious.
Fucking classic!
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1 rocketcrotch 2018-05-17
Trump is a puppet of the Zionists and he doesn't even realize it. They put his face on a coin and had his name plastered all over Israel to get him to move the embassy -- and it stroked his ego. He's not playing 4D chess, he's playing checkers
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Why aren't Americans taking advantage of his ego?
All you have to do is cheer for the guy and beg him to legalize marijuana and he'd probably do it. Seems like an opportunity squandered to me. A populist president responds to popular outcry. Instead we have people denouncing him and wearing pussy hats. LMFAO.
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2018-05-17
What I don't get is how people can't see past their own blinders enough to notice that, at the very least, their is a major rift in the global Deep State. To see a full fledged propaganda attack against Israel is pretty remarkable.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
It's unbelievable.
1 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 2018-05-17
Maybe they should... I dunno... stop shooting doctors and stuff?
1 DawnPendraig 2018-05-17
We see it. Anti Trump peeps can't see past their bias.
It's crazy they bend themselves into pretzels outcrying then praising then scoring over and over. I'm loving it in some ways and scared in others that they can lead the blind sheep even while jerking their noses back and forth. Luckily more people seem to be waking up.
1 Legit-Question 2018-05-17
Conservatism is the new punk rock. Where are the republican punks to endorse marijuana?
1 DawnPendraig 2018-05-17
I'm libertarian and like punk rock. Close enough? =)
1 rocketcrotch 2018-05-17
He's not a populist president either. He's whatever you want him to be to get whatever he wants. Israel and Palestine tensions -- with Trump's name being broadcast over and over the world round? Sounds glorious
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-05-17
That’s by design.
1 Nogrim6 2018-05-17
sooo much this!!!
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
I don't know what kind of hole you've been living in but criticism of Israel has always been perfectly okay .
Overly vociferous criticism has often been unfairly labelled Anti-Semitism, and yes some people have a far too sensitive response.
That doesn't mean that some of the loudest criticism of Israel isn't bigoted in its nature and expression.
I feel like you are being incredibly disingenuous here.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
I feel like you are just saying this NOW that it's not career suicide to be critical of Israel. Literally a year ago it was almost unheard of.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
You don't know anything.
That's from 1987. That was Reagan.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Oh piss off mate, you aren't the arbiter of Truth. The fact your quote is from 87 and nobody gave a fuck until today should wake you the fuck up. How much territory has Israel gained since 87? Yeah that's what I thought now get off my nuts.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
You said it was literally unheard of until a year ago.
I showed you a quote from the White House thirty years ago.
What makes you think nobody cared?
Here's Reagan on Israeli incursions into Lebanon.
Would you prefer only people who agree with you post here?
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
I'd prefer to have a conversation without some contrarian prick insulting me out of the gates with a 2 month old shit account.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
Well by your tone that was clear. I don't know why you're taking it so childishly.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Take a hint then. But you won't because you're only here to shit on people you disagree with.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
Whereas you certainly don't shit on anyone.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
💩
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-05-17
I was thinking the same thing. He doesn't like people who disagree with him or prove him wrong.
1 KindConsideration 2018-05-17
Without his mod powers, he lost his safe space.
1 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 2018-05-17
Seriously, you're being an asshole. I expected better.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Don't be a downvote monger bro. Just go discuss something else with someone else.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
Are you complaining about downvoted? I gave your post one because I think it's very poorly thought through.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Yeah that's all people like you do here is Lord over people with your downvote habits. How bout fucking off for a night and letting people have a discussion without your bullshit.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
I actually responded to your post.
You are now complaining about internet points
I tried having a discussion with you and here we are.
Maybe grow a thicker skin :)
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
You responded to my post like a prick
No actually fuck you, I've been right here for 7 years and you're full of shit.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
It wasn't meant cruelly, I just don't know how you would have missed criticism of Israel, given the conditions I laid out in the first reply
Hmm
Come on.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-05-17
You don't want discussion.
You want people to agree with you.
1 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 2018-05-17
Downvoted
1 rodental 2018-05-17
Uhh, criticizing Israel on conspiracy forums is a tradition as old as conspiracy forums.
If anything, the fact that Trump supports Israel just shows that he's no better than his predecessor.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
I mean I'd prefer we don't support any of these Mideast nightmares but if we must pick sides I'd rather side with the state of Israel than the multitude of head choppers.
1 rodental 2018-05-17
Israel is far, far worse than the worst of the Muslim nations, save perhaps Saudi Arabia. Israel is also almost entirely responsible for most of the conflict in the middle east
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
Israel has many many problems, but I think life for women and gays is certainly better there than in some Middle Eastern neighbour countries.
Fair?
1 rodental 2018-05-17
Maybe, as long as those women and gays are Jews. Of course, the fundamental principle upon which Israel is founded is racism, so if you're not Jewish life is hell.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
You think one cannot be a gay Christian in Tel BV Aviv and live better than in Iran?
That's just not true to say though, is it?
Life is fine for many non Jews, it's very difficult for Palestinians and that's a huge black mark on Israel, but it's not hell for non-Jews.
1 rodental 2018-05-17
Iran is for the most part fairly moderate. It's certainly not an Islamic hellhole like Saudi Arabia. I probably wouldn't advertise the fact that I was gay in Iran, but if you ever go there you'll see that there are quite a few dudes who like a bit of buggery.
In Israel, non-Jews are legally second class citizens.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
Your thinking its better than Israel because gay people exist in Iran?
Are you serious?
1 belisaurius 2018-05-17
All these people are very serious, yes. It's kinda sad actually.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
for people that socially identify with their sexual orientation, which is insanity however you look at it, instead of "hi, i'm a doctor/teacher/whatever to be proud of", it's "hi i stick my dick in other men's assholes..." it's utterly retarded and it doesn't elevate them... otherwise lots of homosexuals in Damascus, they just don't socially identify as such because they have more important aspects of themselves to broadcast... they are doctors/teachers/whatever before they are gays... arguing that isreal is superior because you can openly tell people where you stick your dick, twisted as hell man
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
Oh for god's sake grow a sense of humility.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
You're right in a lot of ways but wrong in many ways too.
1 YaBoyVolke 2018-05-17
Really vague, can you elaborate?
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-05-17
I never thought I would see you support Israel in any shape or form even if it is to pick a side. I guess Trump really is changing things.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
fyi that's the same side
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Point me towards the x-jews missing their heads.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
the what? when was the last time deash attacked isreal? who is treating them in their hospitals on the golan? who is supporting them with air raids? etc... same side, if you can't see it you disappoint me son
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Well fortunately I'm not here to impress you.
I don't support Israel or Palestine,. But calling what the Palestinians are doing right now a "protest" is like calling Israeli aggression "a good fight".
They are all full of shit, they want to fight a war over the sacred olive Grove so who are we to stop them. Fuck them all.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
but you are implicitly supporting isreal when you associate the wahhabi hords of head choppers, which isreal indirectly threw at Libya and Syria through its network of sayanim, with the people contrained inside the gaza landlock under total control by israel for decades... of course they want a fight, they are desperate enough to engage with their shitty weapons against the multi billion goyim funded army of their slavemasters... fuck you too man!
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
No you want to force my opinion by saying bullshit like "you implicitly support them" when I don't.
No worries though mate, not the first time I've seen it.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
mostly i just don't want other to associate Gaza people with head choppers when all indications point to Gaza's enemies being behind the head choppers... sorry you're not that important
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Muslims in general are head choppers. Sunni, Shia doesn't matter. It's not a western compatible religion.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2018-05-17
A little off topic, but, interesting nonetheless. Many Shia Muslims in Iran are now ditching Islam for Zoroastrianism.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Sunnis are definitely the more radical version of Islam.
1 cay-e-en 2018-05-17
It's not?
Didn't we legit have, as a matter of public policy, scalping? The government here used to literally pay people for each scalps of a native they brought in....
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
What year was this?
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
And now the true feelings come out.
Fucking hell.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Yes my true feelings are that gay people should have rights, women should have rights, justice should involve due process and punishments shouldn't be cruel and unusual.
Problem?
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
I've known and loved working plenty of Muslims and head chopping hasn't ever come up as a topic.
Maybe you should have expressed yourself like you just did instead of making a vile and bigoted statement.
Perhaps then you wouldn't have posts removed my moderators, Flytape.
1 CaptainWeenheart 2018-05-17
And now the true feelings come out.
Fucking hell.
1 yellowsnow2 2018-05-17
As long as it is anti-Trump it is allowed by the brigaders.
1 ninjewd 2018-05-17
I think some people realise there is a difference between Zionism and Jewish people
1 mvario 2018-05-17
I think Israel's policy of shooting protestors en masse, and being proud of it, might have something to do with it. Netenyahu and his Likud thugs figure that having Trump's support for whatever atrocities they commit gives them carte blanche to increase their genocide plan.
1 NarwhalStreet 2018-05-17
The New York Times wrote an article in which they said Trump changed the US 70 year policy of neutrality on Israel/palestine lol.
1 mvario 2018-05-17
Wut? The US hasn't even pretended neutrality since 1980.
1 Xatos1337 2018-05-17
Pretty great post. It's funny too because it's all true. Trump being elected has exposed the entire planet. A year ago the "deep state" was a conpsiracy theorist nutjob idea, and now the MSM openly talks about it as they try to make you believe that their people inside the Deep State are the good guys instead of fighting it and denying it hahahahah.
There's a laundry list of this stuff. I'm right there with you man this shit is absolutely terrific.
1 NotNicerAnymore 2018-05-17
It is always "O.K." to call out hypocrisy, brutality, mass murder, Supremacist hate and state terrorism.
1 Quexana 2018-05-17
I think Netanyahu changed that far more than Trump did.
1 Spiel_Foss 2018-05-17
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1 slick_stone_bridges 2018-05-17
I know alot of people that support what Trump is doing that are none of those things.
1 Spiel_Foss 2018-05-17
No one can follow a fool and not be considered a fool.
1 slick_stone_bridges 2018-05-17
Did you support Obama?
1 Spiel_Foss 2018-05-17
President Obama was at best Republican-Lite. I supported him over the alternative. His eight years in office will be considered a standard for future Presidents. We can do much better, but Obama is an educated and honest man.
1 slick_stone_bridges 2018-05-17
Apparently you are the one who was fooled. Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents in history. He conned you into believing in Hope and Change. His signature achievement was Obamacare which has only made our healthcare industry worse and more expensive.
1 Spiel_Foss 2018-05-17
Trump has solidified "worst President in history". There is no getting around that one.
As regards the ACA, letting the for-profit sickness exploitation industry write legislation was a mistake. It should have been a modern universal healthcare system.
1 sbd3phizy 2018-05-17
People voted for Trump because he promised to make America great again. Fast forward in his presidency, did he make America great again?
1 Username_Check_Out 2018-05-17
Take your shit post back to the_d
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
I feel like you are just saying this NOW that it's not career suicide to be critical of Israel. Literally a year ago it was almost unheard of.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Don't be a downvote monger bro. Just go discuss something else with someone else.
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
Oh piss off mate, you aren't the arbiter of Truth. The fact your quote is from 87 and nobody gave a fuck until today should wake you the fuck up. How much territory has Israel gained since 87? Yeah that's what I thought now get off my nuts.
1 rodental 2018-05-17
Israel is far, far worse than the worst of the Muslim nations, save perhaps Saudi Arabia. Israel is also almost entirely responsible for most of the conflict in the middle east
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-05-17
I never thought I would see you support Israel in any shape or form even if it is to pick a side. I guess Trump really is changing things.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
fyi that's the same side
1 Flytape 2018-05-17
No you want to force my opinion by saying bullshit like "you implicitly support them" when I don't.
No worries though mate, not the first time I've seen it.
1 actualzed 2018-05-17
mostly i just don't want other to associate Gaza people with head choppers when all indications point to Gaza's enemies being behind the head choppers... sorry you're not that important