Yeah, but now your being played again. You jumped from the frying pan into the fire.

Qipting Freud? The guy who popularized the oedipus complex, penis envy and other phallic symbols into psych?

I think he would support op.

I agree with a few of the items from OP, but not all.

This is a really long post, hard work...what's your opinion?

There’s dicks and snakes everywhere.

And women are too emotional apparently

Don't forget the design of Miracle Whip is eeeeevil!

https://i.imgur.com/LABfobR.jpg

I am unable to turn my cat upside down. He must be the Lord Messiah

You're own Puuurrrsonal Jesus

He’s probably got some opinions on crystal meth. Ask him

I asked him. He said

https://i.imgur.com/z7pHR23.png

Fucking love these kind of post. Glad to see you picked up on the NASA connection as well. Great fucking post brother

I love them to laugh at. This person went down the rabbit hole and simply tripped. He's now at the bottom but has lost sight of the surface - reality.

You know outside of this subreddit people are talking about how there is a propaganda being posted here?

This post is it. It's a massive accumulated list of made up nonsense based on pre existing stereotypes and clever half-truths. You read it critically, it'll take you days to refute. It's gish gollop. You try to pick it apart, you get called a shill. It's really powerful propaganda, as so many are willing to believe any negative story about the rich and powerful.

I Didn't have time to read all of your stuff, but the many of the things with the Vatican are pure conjecture. You could very easily draw more lines to make a completely different picture. The Vatican and Catholics do not worship Mary. That's a common misconception. God is the only thing that should be worshiped. The video of the Vatican declaring Lucifer as God is entirely misleading. Firstly the Vatican is not declaring anything. It mentioned Lucifer in the chant and then talked about Jesus and then said Jesus is God.

The whole point is to read everything so it comes together and you make the connections.

Sure but did you see “Vatican Bug Face Eating Male Genitalia”? Anyone can draw lines to make that look like something it’s not.

I clicked every link if you don’t like this post then you’re free to go to another one

Thread got brigaded hard brother. Take a look at the vote counts since you posted

By whom?

Real users know. If you have to ask...

Are you a real user that I can ask? I've been lurking here for a little while and always hear about it but I haven't seen an explanation

These psychos think negative votes affect me. Just means we’re on the right track

Yes sir. But remember it’s not about you and I. It’s from keeping the snowball rolling down the hill. It’s done to present what looks like a consensus. They don’t want new users thinking outside of the box. Best way to do that is ridicule users and downvote comments that push new users to keep digging. By all accounts this is a great thread by OP and it is being brigaded because it’s clear there is more than meets the eye when it comes to the Vatican. Once you recognize the patterns you can fight back. I know you recognize. The rules of the game are laid out, fight back and let your sincerity guide new users towards a more open mind to the manipulation present here on reddit and throughout our society.

Yeah I’m always on new I know the tactics all too well. I hope these users actually read the comments and don’t just go off of +- but you never know.

They read them. In the long run we need brigades like this. It’s what first tipped me to things when I first started using Reddit. All the snarky bullshit getting upvotes made me say “who the fuck likes being a total dick and who supports total dicks”. So I started paying attention and quickly figured out why they are being dicks and why they get so many upvotes. PG, FE, that Vatican, NASA, etc all topics that come with snarky ass bullshit responses from accounts I’ve either never seen or the exact same accounts I see in every thread. At some point it’s just too obvious. Let them do their thing, just swing back at them when you can with downvotes. Oh and support fellow users like JJW and bradok who are quite obviously legit. Be well!

Yes PG, FE, Vatican and NASA are all the key spots you’re exactly right.

Also agree that there needs to be a response on our part to level the playing field, I’m tired of the brigading. We need to come together and camp out on “new” so we have a shot

The Vatican and Catholics do not worship Mary. That's a common misconception.

As as someone raised catholic, yes they do. Mary is seen as one of the few individuals similar to Jesus in that she was born without sin.

Hail Mary full of grace the lord is with the. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners, from now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

As as someone raised catholic, yes they do.

Then you were raised wrong. They respect and pray to Mary to ask her intercession since, basically, she's constantly sitting at the feet of Jesus, and kind of has an "in", being his mother and all that.

The quote you have, is not a worship OF Mary. It's literally (in the literal sense) asking for her intercession.

Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners...

that isn't a "quote" it's one of the most important prayers of the Catholic faith and literally begins and is titled

Hail Mary

Lol go ask a Priest how they feel about her if you don't believe me. She is 100% worshipped by Catholics. She is the closest thing to Divine anything can reach, one step below Jesus/God/Holy Spirit. She is without original sin ffs.

Yeah this is halfway right, she’s not worshipped...revered like someone commented up above said, indeed she’s the step below Jesus but she’s not worshipped like God is.

Even my nutjob religious ed teacher in highschool made sure to teach us that.

hail Mary

In latin it is Ave Maria. Ave is a Latin word, used by the Romans as a salutation and greeting, meaning "hail". It is the singular imperative form of the verb avēre, which meant "to be well"; thus one could translate it literally as "be well" or "farewell"

You do realize "Hail" is a greeting, right?

You’re in a thread that is being brigaded. Just downvote the fuck out of them

brigaded by who?

You're not going to win this argument, and from a certain perspective, probably shouldn't.

You're right that official, canonical dogma of the Roman Catholic Church makes Mary a special saint, which is different from an angel, or from God.

But you're wrong, too, because in practice, especially among less-educated and non-western Roman Catholics, Mary is clearly worshipped.

I appreciate your reply - I think you are very much correct in your thoughts. I feel like, most definitely some people worship Mary because they have always done so - the family unit has, they wear rosaries as necklaces, tattoos, et al.

They were never really brought up to speed on what the words and routines mean. (Mostly because, very clearly, what things mean is indeed up to each person. However, also I am thinking from the standpoint of canonical dogma.)

I wasn't raised Catholic, I learned and joined as an adult. I spent a little different amount of time looking at history, dogma, reasons for the whole stand/kneel/sit/stand/kneel/shake-hands/gossip/stand/kneel thing, etc. I'm not "more learned" in the subject, by far, but I do think that my initial response to "Catholics worship Mary" is from a dogma standpoint with a little bit of "defense" in the line of "hey, we're not all like that..."

There's a difference between worship and prayer. You can pray to Mary without it being worship. Our language isn't amazing at distinguishing between these things. You see someone kneeling, saying Mary's name, holding a rosary, and you figure "Well, that's stuff you do when you worship something." But that's a mistake, it's stuff you do when you pray, and prayer can involve anything from worship, to praise, to communing with, to asking for help, etc. If your point is that some people who weren't well-catechized may not understand the intellectual difference between asking for intercession and worship, that's certainly possible, but the Church doesn't teach this.

Jesus Christ did not consider Mary his mother, nor his fleshly bothers his brethren:

Mar 3:31  There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. 

Mar 3:32  And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. 

Mar 3:33  And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 

Mar 3:34  And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 

Jesus Christ even had the Apostle John replace his human flesh as Mary's son since he is the risen savor and God almighty:

Joh 19:25  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. 

Joh 19:26  When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 

Joh 19:27  Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. 

If you are praying to Mary (or the "Saints") you are praying to a devil. Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men.

1Ti 2:5  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 

Are you confusing two people who both have the name Mary as if they are one person?

Nope. The Mary that gave birth to Jesus Christ was a sinner just like every other person who wasn't also God. Jesus Christ is the only human who had fallen flesh but did not once sin in it. That's why he's the spotless Lamb of God who shed his blood to wash our sins away forever.

Can you show me that in the CCC? Because I’m pretty sure she was born without sin and was assumed into heaven, still sinless. Thanks for your reply!

I was raised Catholic and I have never heard this thing about Mary being born without sin before. Just another anecdote to add to the pile.

Ok. Here’s the “rub” - read the link here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm

Mary is without the stain of Original Sin (966). Which could be the inspiration behind this thread’s confusion.

The whole point of the Catechism is to deceive people into a works based system of trying to attain salvation by one's own efforts. This is sending people to the eternal lake of fire. I would highly recommend simply reading the King James Bible for yourself. It's clear that every single human that has ever existed save Jesus Christ has sinned and deserves the lake of fire. That's why Jesus Christ became our Passover lamb and took our punishment for us.

Rom_3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:  Rom 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.  Rom 5:14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.  Rom 5:15  But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.  Rom 5:16  And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.  Rom 5:17  For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 

All you need to do is repent and believe the gospel which means Jesus Christ did all the work for you. There is nothing your flesh can do to save you.

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;  1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.  1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;  1Co 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast. 

whole point of the Catechism is to deceive people

Well, I can tell where your bias is and that the rest isn't really you trying to have a conversation. I hope you enjoy the rest of your Friday.

Bahahaha "you were raised wrong." Let me remind you that there are many many different interpretations of he Catholic Church within it's owns walls. That half the time the Catholic Church didn't even stick with what they were doing and so you can't really be raised "correctly" or "incorrectly."

Disclaimer: Not a catholic, or even religious... but are revered and worshiped the same thing? I've heard this argument from both sides before, curious what you think.

Yes. I've actually had this conversation with older catholics as well - Mary is only a step down from Jesus in terms of divinity in many Catholics eyes. She is the above angels. Basically the highest any mortal/saint could rise to.

Revered and worship are different. In everyday life, war heros, sports stars, celebraties, etc. are revered. I wouldn't say they are worshiped.

Just chiming in that you are correct. In many Catholic churches Mary is the main altarpiece and it drives protestants bugfuck

The Truth is even more bizarre.

They also killed people for trying to translate so the people could read it, like William Tindale. And Martin Luther, they literally made a movie about this. He translated the Bible from Hebrew Greek. And mass murdered people who would not follow their new pegan additions. Praying to a saint or bowing before any graven image is idolitry. When they first set in, they painted over idols of Isis and her son Tammuz with Mary and Jesus...they were literally praying to idols. Even today, you worship and pray to saints and Mary, which is forbidden..the bible says specifically not to do this. Also, a priest can not intercede on your behalf...only Christ. The incense and things you use in "ceremonies" was the exact way pagans did it. Many of the symbols the priests use or even in the Vatican or pegan or honor pegan Babylonian Gods. Repeating prayers (and agian to Mary) The Bible also teaches against.

Why would a/the "God" need, want, or require life forms to worship it?

https://youtu.be/NHpCGAKxIu4

That question is covered extensively in this 3 hour debate.

God is the only thing that should be worshiped.

lol ok...

None of what you said is true as I've been around tha Catholic Church, they do pray to Mary and bow before her which is forbidden, they also pray to the saints...and a priest does not have the power to forgive your sins it says right in the Bible.

The Catholic Church has always had pegan roots, they literally persecuted and burned Christians at the stake. They are evil, at their roots.

"Christians were persecuted not so much for their profession of faith in Christ, but because they would not include pagan deities in their faith as well. Then, with Constantine's emphasis on making his new-found Christianity palatable to the heathen in the Empire, the "Christianization" of these pagan deities was facilitated. For example, pagan rituals and idols gradually took on Christian meanings and names and were incorporated into "Christian" worship (e.g., "saints" replaced the cult of pagan gods in both worship and as patrons of cities; mother/son statues were renamed Mary and Jesus; etc.), pagan holidays were reclassified as Christian holy days (e.g., the Roman Lupercalia and the feast of purification of Isis became the Feast of the Nativity; the Saturnalia celebrations were replaced by Christmas celebrations; an ancient festival of the dead was replaced by All Souls Day, rededicated to Christian heroes [now Halloween]; etc.). A transition had occurred -- instead of being persecuted for failure to worship pagan deities, Christians who did not agree with the particular orthodoxy backed by the Emperor were now persecuted in the name of Christ." "Early believers kept Saturday as the Sabbath until March 7, 321 CE when Pope Constantine passed a law requiring believers to worship on Sunday, the day the pagans worshipped the sun-god. Believers still kept Saturday as the Sabbath until another law was passed eleven years later. This law signed into decree by Pope Constantine forbid believers to worship on the Sabbath (Saturday) and it was punishable by death by the Catholic Church. Many believers were burned to death by the Catholic Church for keeping the Sabbath. " From wikipeadia "Those who refused were charged with impiety and punished by arrest, imprisonment, torture, and/or executions." Some Pagan ceremonies were brought in and the festivals became modern holidays as pagans joined the early church.[1] The Pagan vernal equinoxcelebration was 'Christianized'[1] and then referred to as the Annunciation to the Blessed Virgin Mary or Annunciation of the Lord and celebrated as the Feast of the Annunciation. The Germanic Pagan solstice celebrations (Midsummer festivals) are also sometimes referred to by Neopagans and others as Litha, stemming from Bede's De temporum rationeand the fire festival or Litha was a tradition for many pagans. This pagan holiday was basically brought in and given a name change, and in Christianity was then associated with the nativity of John the Baptist, which now is observed on the same day, June 24, in the Catholic, Orthodox and some Protestant churches. It is six months before Christmasbecause Luke 1:26 and Luke 1.36 imply that John the Baptist was born six months earlier than Jesus, although the Bible does not say at which time of the year this happened.

pope: '...Pope is a shortened title for Pontifex Maximus. In Greek it means father. The Pontifex Maximus (meaning king of sacrifices or servant to the triads, as well as the "greatest bridge-maker between the gods and men") was the high priest of the College of Pontiffs (Collegium Pontificum) in ancient Rome. It's a pagan title that was incorporated from the Etruscan-Latin polytheistic culture (700 BC) who lived before the Romans. The early Catholics said that the Pontifex Maximus was the "King of Heathendom," the evil high priest of the pagan mystery religion of Rome He was then urged by the Catholic bishops to renounce the cultic Roman title, and instead grant it to their exalted leading bishop over Rome. Pontifex Maximus is a name that's being used by the Roman Catholic Church clergy today. Though it may be abbreviated into Pope or Papa, yet it's clearly a title incorporated directly from paganism.Pope Gregory I (601 AD) said in so many words literally, "We must compromise with the pagans in order to further Christianity."

Books: The Pagan Origins of Christian Holidays This site shows actual documents and cites news articles of the pope in blasphemy: http://amazingdiscoveries.org/R-Pope_Rome_blasphemy_power_Jesus

The Popes of Rome proclaim that they are the Vicar of Christ, which means “in place of Christ.” The word antichrist doesn’t just mean “against Christ“, it means “in place of Christ.” Pope Boniface VIII said “We declare, assert, define and pronounce to be subject to the Roman Pontiff is to every creature altogether necessary for salvation… I have the authority of the King of Kings. I am all in all, and above all, so that God Himself and I, the Vicar of Christ, have but one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do. What therefore, can you make of me but God?” Pope Pius IX said, “I alone… am the successor of the apostles, the vicar of Jesus Christ. I am the way, the truth, and the life…” Pope Pius X declared, “The Pope is not simply the representative of Jesus Christ. On the contrary, he is Jesus Christ Himself, under the veil of the flesh. Does the Pope speak? It is Jesus Christ who is speaking, hence, when anyone speaks of the Pope, it is not necessary to examine but to obey.” Pope Pius XII said, “…recognize the Holy, Catholic, Roman Church to be the only true Church of Jesus Christ, outside of which neither sanctity nor salvation can be found. Call them to the unity of the one fold, granting them the grace to believe every truth of our holy faith and to submit themselves to the Supreme Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Jesus Christ on earth.” The power of the Roman Catholic Church reached a pinnacle in the 12th through 15th centuries, as they attained: independent sovereignty, absolute supremacy over the Christian Church, and full control of the princes of Europe. Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) said “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Greogory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.)

That's an interesting read. From what you have shown it looks like the Pope's claim to be God himself. I'm by no means an apologist, I haven't been around the fiath for very long. I read everything in the link you posted.

In regards to accepting certain pagan tradtitions and practices into the Catholic Church I don't necessarily see a wrong there. I've always kind of thought of it as taking the good and leaving the evil. Culture and tradtitions are important so take what is goodor neutral and incorporate it. By incorporating certain aspects of the pagan religion you can convert more people to Christianity. If it's not bad, why lose souls over it?

I encourage you to look at what some people say about the pope's lack of "divinity" in this link.

https://forums.catholic.com/t/is-the-pope-god/120954/4

The explanation and rebuttal is probably better than I can make. In essence, no the pope is not divine, but acts in the place of Christ (explained better in the link). The Pope or any priest for that matter are not gods, but act through God.

Except it is wrong if your coming at it from a Christian faith, as Catholics claim. The Bible forbids this stuff many times, so not only is praying to a graven image or idol wrong, it's one that was actually a pegan false God. And the popes have claimed more then to by a vessel but have literally said in the past in place of and that the have the same power, which they don't. Also God forbid the whole idea of "popes" they are not the father, he is and they can not stand in place of Christ that's blasphemy.

What kind of stuff does the Bible forbid? Catholics do not worship idols, statues, pictures or anything of that sort. The Catholic Church does not claim that the Pope's are Gods. If Popes claim to be Gods they wrong. Pope's can obviously be wrong. They are people and don't always speak the truth. Where does Jesus forbid the "whole idea of Popes? It seems to me that the Bible affirms the idea of Pope's.

Awesome post

There's no doubt that the Vatican is corrupt, it has been for basically its entire existence, why would it stop now.

For much of history there's been corruption in the church. At some points it's been rampant and at other times not so bad. Just like any instution with lots of power there will be corruption. I think the poster has really gone out on a limb.

Nice. Love this stuff, sure maybe some of it is over the top but it's good for opening minds to symbolic awareness and deception.

Totally this! Sure, there's a lot of speculation and some loose connections, but take a step back from that and you can see that there does exist a general overarching occult/symbolic operation going on. And if you take the time to dig through it all you'll find there's a good few diamonds in the rough.

And yet all the top comments in this thread are picking out one small objection and vote manipulating these dumb ass comments straight to the top. Either way a good thread to make note of certain accounts.

TPTB aren't using symbols to fucking rob you, rape you, and murder. They're doing it openly. Look at the legislation they've passed. Look at our healthcare, schools, and military. They don't need to be cryptic. Se gave them everything by bickering over nonsense.

Nice write up

This got downvoted. Should tell you everything you need to know about the accounts in this thread

The Bible verses are fucking evil and prophetic especially Isaiah 57

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Thanks for the post, expose the truth!

women are ruled by emotion

Oof. And men aren't?

Do you understand the concept of per capita?

oops i think you accidentally used your defense of racism instead of sexis.

True in both cases though. There are differences on average.

i think your line here is supposed to be something about how womens brains are smaller or some sort of child support/divorce statistic.

idk i cant keep track of you incel crypto-fascists' dumbass logic.

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i think your line here is supposed to be something about how womens brains are smaller or some sort of child support/divorce statistic.

idk i cant keep track of you incel crypto-fascists' dumbass logic.

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Statistics such as that hardly are accurate as a way to tell what actually goes on in people's heads.

Less so.

Okay, why?

People in general vary, women don't just have hormones that somehow make them far more emotional than men.

Yeah, this is an old trope / lazy thinking that needs to end.

Psychology Today: Are Women More Emotional Than Men?

Are women more emotional than men? Maybe. Men could be described as more emotional than women, too. It depends on the type of emotion, how it is measured, where it is expressed, and lots of other factors.

Independent UK: Study shows men are more emotionally sensitive than women – they’re just also better at hiding it

In honesty, it varies with people, I think it's to do with the way that people store information regarding these kinds of things, no clue if that's comprehensible.

Lmao, they're bringing the old kind of sexism back before it barely reached its grave. Next thing you know, they'll want to drill holes in your heads to let the demons out or put you on the ol' vibrator treatment for your "hysteria". Watch out ladies. Wear a helmet and possibly a chastity belt.

Reported for noisy auto-playing video.

I upvoted this post from the main page, but when I came into the thread, my upvote had been changed to a downvote.

I love this post, FYI. Something fucky is afoot.

Los Angeles Hollywood Translates To The Angels Holy Erection. Los = The , Angeles = Angels, Holly = Holy, Wood = Erection

This is some really bad folk etymology.
Holly doesn't come from holy. They have different origins and don't mean the same thing at all.
Just based on a quick google search, the origin of "wood" as a term for an erection originates in the 1950s. This may not be true, but if it is, that's a full 60 years after Hollywood was named.
By the way, here's the supposed origin of the name of Hollywood:

According to the diary of H. J. Whitley, also known as the "Father of Hollywood", on his honeymoon in 1886 he stood at the top of the hill looking out over the valley. Along came a Chinese man in a wagon carrying wood. The man got out of the wagon and bowed. The Chinese man was asked what he was doing and replied, "I holly-wood," meaning 'hauling wood.' H. J. Whitley had an epiphany and decided to name his new town Hollywood. "Holly" would represent England and "wood" would represent his Scottish heritage. Whitley had already started over 100 towns across the western United States.

Holly doesn't come from holy. They have different origins and don't mean the same thing at all.

Quiet you, with your logical analysis. This type of thinking kills the erection. Sorry... kills the wood.

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That's his gimmick, you are trying using a character trait he openly flaunts in his art as if it's... real. He's playing a role with this act.

Go find the same stuff in Neil Young's music. Or Elton John. Or Celine Dion. Or Faith Hill. Or Notorious B.I.G.

You are picking needles out a haystack, and claiming all of the hay is needles.

That's his gimmick, you are trying using a character trait he openly flaunts in his art as if it's... real. He's playing a role with this act.

It's undeniable that Warner / Manson - whose father served in the Air Commando Squadron in Vietnam and (he claims) was later recruited by the CIA - has an understanding of the occult.

It's not simply in his music / videos but his writings as well - and much of it suggests intermediate knowledge of relatively arcane symbolism and concepts.

Go find the same stuff in Neil Young's music. Or Elton John. Or Celine Dion. Or Faith Hill. Or Notorious B.I.G.

It's interesting you mention Neil Young.

Marilyn Manson recorded "Holy Wood" in Laurel Canyon, a hotbed of witchcraft and satanism. Neil Young was one of the (many) musicians who mysteriously gravitated there in the early sixties. Young himself said: "When I went, I didn't have any intention of anything. I didn't know what the fuck I was doin'. We were just going - like lemmings."

Here's some glowing compliments Young made about another musician moving in the circles of Laurel Canyon during that period:

"He was great, he was unreal – really, really good."

"He had this kind of music that nobody else was doing. I thought he really had something crazy, something great. He was like a living poet."

Do you know who he was talking about?

I do not, who was he talking about?

My guess would be Charles Manson.

You've got it.

Don't you find it strange that this ex-convict - ceremonially loosed on the spring equinox of '67 - was immediately able to ingratiate himself with the entertainment elite?

No.

lol

Yeah a lot of this says more about the author than the religions he discusses.

What are your thoughts on all the other links presented brother? Surely the scope of links lends credence to the fact something is very fuckity with the Vatican

The scope of links is so vast and unverifiable. We know op has made his own point up already, chances are most of it is.

Downvoted and made note of this account. Be well.

Wut? On ye go go. Nutter

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Hmmm, censorship, love it. Someone calls me a shill so I can't call them crazy? Freedom of speech.

I would never call you that. I will simply downvote you

That's actually sad. To downvote me because you didn't like my questions. Isn't that just really childish? You're supposed to downvote things that don't add to the discussion, it's not a passive aggresive "I don't like you" button. Please continue with your day, YouTube doesn't watch itself .

Most of the links are either conjecture or fabrication or unverifiable. The very definition of a Gish gallop.

Downvoted. Already have a note on this account. Be well.

Typical of you. Always afraid of actual conversation.

Upvoted (you) and made a note on his account. ;) Be fabulous!

You as well, Ned.

Don't ask for someone's thoughts on something then get upset if they disagree with you. Are you mentally 5 years old?

I am aware of that particular account, nothing more brother. Be well

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I'm not going through all those links. Do I think there is fuckery involved with the Vatican? Of course. I just saw that line and saw it as absurd from the beginning because I knew that "wood" as a word for erection was probably a more recent thing.

Also, the two ones about what the altars look like are absurd to the highest degree. Even after it is "outlined," I still can't see the sheep or the insect without the outlining.

I don't remember exactly, but I've read that Holly is a certain tree which has occult magik significance, thus holly wood is the wood of this tree used to conjure spells, in practice these spells are mind control or trend setting tactics used in all mediums that comes from this capital city of jewish run entertainment.

Remember. While they call themselves jewish they're not really Jewish. That's part of the veil.

But it wasn't a city known for Jews until much later, after it was founded. It wasn't until after the 1920s that Hollywood's population picked up and that it became a film center that it was known for Jews.

Do you always use your trump right away? I know stuff isn't much linear. But yeah it isn't much linear.

i noticed that too, his allegiance is leaking

Just reminded me: The Georgia Guidestones are surrounded by holly bushes.

Why do we car about the "occult?" What is wrong with the occult? Who give a fuck about the occult? They just gave 2 trillion dollars we don't have to the rich and they claim we don't have money for schools and you people keep talking about dark fairies.

It's obvious it's knowledge that is hidden. That's what occult means. It's very significant for those in the know and it's successful use either for good or for bad is not compatible with the slightest ignorance. The elites give a fuck about it and don't want everyone knowing it all.

You seem jumpy, why? I didn't actually state anything pejorative, and didn't break any code, just something I've read from someone else which connects the very purpose of many entertainment media that comes from Hollywood with a theory of its etymology (which makes far more sense than some guy just having a random epiphany), showing the fairy tale in practice.. If it's wrong then show it instead of downvoting which doesn't really count as disproving.

Also Los Angeles aready had it's name from the Mexicans before the US bought/took California from them.

Yup, Los Angeles, San José, San Francisco, El Paso, California.

Most of those names were never changed when the US got the land.

When you think about it, it’s really obvious

Except those are not "Mexican" names they are Spanish and we're named by the conquistadors in the mid 1500's.

The name came from the Spanish (as in Spain), not "the Mexicans".

Jordan Maxwell had an interesting theory on the origin. Druids were basically the elite of ancient Celtic culture & were the overseers of society. And they would use a wand to conduct things, much like a conductor's baton. Not so much as hocus pocus but it was more a symbol or tool of their status as Druids. Anyway, they would make it out of wood from a holly tree... Holly - wood! After moving pictures started evolving Hollywood was organized as a tool to train people & their emotions. Much of how we act on our emotions is learned behavior.

I don't personally believe in much of this. I just think it's damned interesting. It's certainly better than angel cocks.

But that's the problem. It was named Hollywood long before motion pictures existed.

Jordan Maxwell didn't say this. I added that in out of assumption. I never knew that!

But I don't see a problem in affecting the theory. If Hollywood existed before film then maybe they decided that would be their wand. Maybe Maxwell expands on it. I'm just familiar with the basic concept.

Name meanings aren't the same as etymology.
Names go down different routes and can end up at places just like words. Both can be traced.

In the same way the suffix -ment always means MIND? Like the words embankment? Escarpment? Deployment?

yup thats the other etymology BS in this post, looks like someone has been trying to insert that narrative for a while (link below)

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/160026/does-the-etymology-of-the-word-government-mean-to-control-the-mind

The full make of LA is actually "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula." Los Angeles is just shortened.

it's still kinda weird they revere her like a queen tho.

I believe it translates to "Whale's Vagina"

I thought Holly wood was wood from the holly tree. A magic wand

Also government derives from Greek not Latin

Wood = Erection

jesus christ why would this dude invest so much energy into writing up such a huge post and then shoot him self in the foot with something so stupid.

...

You have done a great deed here.

Why is this only up-voted 60 some times?

Speaking frankly a person probably isn't saying or posting anything of real value if they receive 100% upvotes, but this is a little ridiculous.

The 'up vote' is not equivalent to the 'like' button.

You must be new here

It's since gone very much up since my first comment.

But yes, I am actually at least compared to other people.

You’re in a brigaded post my friend

When I see posts like these...

Are you advocating the idea that "the Jews" are the ones who are really in control of everything? Because that's what that cartoon is saying. Also what Nazis said.

I have never seen lizardmen or mole people. But I have seen jews and their nepotism.

I don't think there's anything I can say that will convince you that you're wrong, but I would be making a mistake by not trying. Jewish people are, first and foremost, people, with all of the individuality and diversity that that entails. The idea that Jewish people work together as a nefarious collective mass, pulling the strings that make the world twitch, is nothing but a modern take on ancient antisemitism. You may have seen Jewish people engaging in nepotism, but I've seen people of all religions and ethnicities doing the same -- this isn't some trait that's unique to, or especially present among, Jewish people. The Jewish people have been scapegoated for thousands of years. Individuals should be held accountable for their own actions, but to be prejudiced against an entire group of people is wrong.

Thanks for the laughs

I've definitely designed posters and used a W that looked like two V's but because I liked how it looked.

Are you sure you're not part of a fucking CONSPIRACY?

I'm part of the conspiracy that hid "you're my boy blue" in a Kansas tour poster a few years ago. BUH BUH BUHHHHHH.

HE'S A SERPENT SHEEP'S HEAD!!! GET HIM!!!!!

STOP EATING HUMANS!

That was done with the horror movie The Witch. A lot of horror/film nerds insist on typing it out this way but official print is always a W. It's only 2 Vs for the poster. It's a stylized thing. The director said as much. But they take it as an integral part of how deep the movie is.

Yeah man wtf, either he just discovered conspiracies and his mind is blown and he's in that process of believing everything or it's just trolling.

It's probably just psychosis.

Probably in the process of believing everything. I went through the same phase for bit after my consciousness woke up.

Would anyone be able to tell me why the Pope worshipping the Virgin Mary is a bad? Genuinely curious.

In Christianity, god is supposed to be the only one worshipped. According to others in this thread he's not actually worshipping her or something? Idk I'm not catholic

He's not worshiping her. It's just a common misconception. It seems really popular with Protestants who try to delegitimize the church. It's fine and good to question and defend a position, but at least know what the opposing side believes.

Why the need of having a statue and reverence to it? None of the apostles did such thing.

What about this one ?

hundreds of pics of celebrities all showing the same gesture with the hand : the index and the thumb forming a round over the eye, and together with the 3 other fingers, forming the number 666. It would be a couple of them, it could be assimilated to some silly pose for the photo. It's like, all of them celebrities doing this : actors, singers, Americans, Europeans, Asians. There is a good chance your idol is in the list in this video. Even that Korean dude, gangnam style, does this. WTH!

What the hell does this mean ? It cannot be coincidental.

And what about this one?

Lots of celebrities, sometimes the same who do the 666 gesture, do the following gesture : cover one eye with the hand open, fingers altogether, hand straight up. The video in the link shows a few celebrities doing this. However, I have seeing some pictures compilations with lots more celebrities doing the same gesture with the hand covering one eye.

Here, again, it cannot be coincidental. It has to have a meaning.

What do they know, what have they seen that we have not ? And is that symbol related to the previous one with the 666 ? If I do this at home now, can I be a multi-millionaire superstar tomorrow too ?

Are we actually ruled by some kind of supreme lord who looks like this, or like this, or like this ?

There's no way it's coincidental, you don't see teenage kids do these poses in pictures only high status people.

It's like, all of them celebrities doing this : actors, singers, Americans, Europeans, Asians.

Or perhaps just a small number of occultist photographers requesting that pose from every celebrity they shoot. The celebs might have no idea what it means.

It's a reference to the all seeing eye the free Mason's worship.

so, Sauron is real ?

Something like that. Idk why I'm being down voted

"May Freedom, Harmony, and Love,  Unite you in the grand Design,  Beneath th' Omniscient Eye above" - Robert burns farewell to the St James Masonic lodge in 1786

Do it upside down and you get 911...

How long did it take you to make this post?

20 mins and a fat line of Meth

Your only 3 comments in this thread are about op being on meth. You got some kinda fixation?

He's being investigated and is shifting blame?

This post is a classic example of the kind of massive post that would be ripped out by somebody who's good and stimmed up, and stimulant psychosis makes you see symbolism and double meanings everywhere, even where there is none.

Sounds like something a tweaker would do.

One peice of context though is that Christianity was invented as war time propoganda by the Romans. As were parts of the Kuran.

While the Roman State most definitely manipulated later Christianity beginning in the 4th century, I don't think the ERE had much of a connection to the Quran.

The reasons the muslims kicked ass were multifold- The Romans had just finished an exhaustive, 26 year war with the Sassanids- the centuries old blood enemy of the Romans. For more than 2 decades many of the provinces from Antioch to Egypt had slipped Imperial control, and had been retaken for less than a decade when Muhammad burst out of the Arabian wastes.

The war had devastated both Empires- but the Sassanids were ruined. Finally, for the first time since the mess began, when Crassus and several legions were utterly destroyed by the Parthians, 600 years later the Romans had ended the feud- but at great cost.

Additionally, the Roman communities that were conquered by the Muslims welcomed their new overlords- because of a massive Church schism that had been occurring over Iconoclasm- which saw the capital, Constantinople, adhering to different beliefs concerning Images and pictures, due to the influence of the Imperial Family, than other parts of the Empire- like Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Antioch. The muslims let the Christians remain if they paid the tax most of us are familiar with- and to many, this was preferable than living under an Emperor who pretended to be Christian, in their eyes.

Long in the short of it- if the Romans helped create the Quran, they fucked up big time.

It's not like another great empire also helped create a militaristic political movement in the Middle East and also fucked up big time...

From what I've read, the idea is that the Catholic Church helped create it- the actual Roman State merely suffered the consequences, whether that is True or not.

Oh you miss understood me. I wasn't suggesting the Romans had a hand in the Quran just that both books were written as war time propoganda by different groups. My b. But thanks for the historical context.

Great post and read. The Vatican has always been a synagogue of Satan and will always remain that way. Breath of fresh air from the nonstop Israel posts.

Why would this comment get downvoted? Mods can we do something about this brigade? We know which accounts are brigading. Let’s take this sub back from accounts that are used to obfuscate and kill discussion. Anyway, good come to brother. Make notes of these accounts and downvote the fuck out of them

I'm not brigading from anywhere (where the hell would I brigade from? The XCOM subreddit? Gotta watch out for those strategy gamers). I'm downvoting because I'm rolling my eyes at the sheer ridiculousness of this post, and the people eagerly nodding their heads at it.

Feel free to "make a note of me", which isn't creepy at all.

The bible specifically refutes what you say. In revelations 3 it says that those who call themselves jews yet are liers, are the synogogue of satan. So no.

Bunkum

Indeed

nah.

your link with

Lady Gaga talks about A New Race Of Beings Born Within Humanity

I don't think it should be taken literally as some kind of alien reptilian species who can read through your mind coming to Earth. What I think she refers to is the NWO. The NWO is about clearing all boundaries : social, physical, mental, etc... boundaries. No more nations, no more gender distinctions, no more rich vs poors, no more religions, no more traditions, no more blacks vs whites vs asians etc... that's their ultimate plan, and they have been working on it for over 2000 years. They believe when that day comes, universal peace will come, and their messiah will come.

So the NWO just wants to get rid of labels? Wow, and here I thought the conspiracies around a NWO included massive genocide against poor people or something. Maybe they aren't all that bad after all.

Right? His definition above sounds pretty fucking dope.

Dan 2:43  And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, *they* shall *mingle themselves with the seed of men:* but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 

Dan 2:44  And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 

Far too much for me to read/watch and I don't care for a lot of it but I give a shit load of props for the amount of work you have put into it. And will read some of it just off of principle for that work.

Yep! Vatican is pretty much one step above satan.

Why the downvotes

Holy shit. You just summed up my last two decades!

THIS is the kind of shit I come here for. I've had enough pro/anti-trump posts. Give me more of this.

Did you even look at the first two photos?

This seems like some kind of elaborate piss-take.

Yeah but I'd rather have some crazy shit like this pop up than constant politics.

I would rather have some real conspiracies, personally. Politics is one of the largest sources of conspiracies...

Devil's advocate: Perhaps all the sheep imagery is because Christians are really into the image of Jesus being represented by a Lamb? Still looking through the rest of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism

I like the post for the most part. You are aware yournewswire.com is disinfo though?

Hollywood comes from the Druids. Ancient magic and such. That's what I've heard.

So here we are in the conspiracy sub and you have fallen for the greatest and oldest conspiracy of all time. Religion, organized or not. Especially Christianity lol.

Not to take away from some of the info you posted which is good. But come on dude....

How is it my fault that my ovaries “look like a locust”? How is that a conspiracy?

Please stop being emotional or the demons are going to possess you.

And in case they do, you know what to do boys! Just take an ol' drill to the noggin, make a hole and let the demons out! Easy peasy!

It worked for the Kennedys!!

That picture actually has a cicada not locust, new conspiracy time. CICADA ARE THE DEVIL

Dude the meth must be killer where you are from. Maybe you should quit tweaking and get some rest.

Women are ruled by emotion. It's is their power, and their curse. This makes them even more accessible to demonic attack and manipulation. That is why in the beginning demons attacked eve first.

Where do you even start to refute this level of ignorance.

Honestly, I have better things to do with my day than to even try.

You just downvote & move on, my friend. Whenever I get caught up in an argument, start typing too much, researching my points just to be sure, spending too much time... I stop & think how much it will matter later on. How much I personally even care & how much this argument directly matters to my life. And it doesn't. So I'll express argument with a downvote or just 'hide' a post if it bugs me for any reason outside of ignorance.

And BTW, did you know you can set reddit to hide things that you downvote? This is a supremely helpful thing for me in just digesting content. Click & forget, don't waste the thought energy.

I can't tell you how many responses I've backspaced out of on this sub.

Seriously lol what even is this

Archive this nowwwwww

So, what's the endgame here? What are those 8500 psychopaths after?

If they get their way, every building in the world will be remodelled to look like a snake or a dead sheep.

And then?

Dont ask me, ask one of the 8500 people who secretly run the world.

lol

CONTROL

I just wanted to say, all other discussion and opinions and interpretation about this post aside, THIS is the /r/conspiracy I know and love. Not whatever election bullshit thats been rampant here the past few years. This is exactly why I'm subscribed here. Great post.

Came here to same the same, this is /r/conspiracy at it's best. Thanks OP, thread saved for later ;)

I stepped away from the sub for awhile. This is my first time back in months so it's nice to see an old fashioned conspiracy post, whether u believe it or not.

That's disturbing. This is the kind of post that gets put here to discredit the subreddit. It's nothing but a massive list of random things with no direction or coherent points. There are absolutely idiotic connections and conjectures mixed in with legitimate truth just to take the gish gallop to the next level. The post is bordering on spam. It is perhaps the lowest of the low for this community. And this is what you come here for? I'm not sure I can even take you seriously. I've been here for 10 years and I've never seen the community embrace this level of schizophrenic meth-fueled insanity.

I'm not saying everything in there is crazy. But I am saying that some of the stuff in there is definitely crazy. The person who put the list together doesn't even know exactly what point they were trying to make.

Different strokes for different folks. I like the off the wall, deep conspiracy symbology shit. People arguing Democrats vs Republicans gets really old after a while.

But this isn't even a good example of the off-the-wall stuff. This is totally incoherent and disjointed. It's more like an "artist's recreation" of a stereotypical conspiracy theorist "lunatic". Really smells like part of the well-known CIA psyop to dissuade average people from looking into conspiracy theories.

Embrace the pseudo-symbolic organised chaos

Absolutely fab fucking tastic. Hats off to the OP.

I mean they are clearly the ravings of a mad man, but it’s a great read none the less.

i thought Hollywood was named so because witches were supposed to have made their wands out of "wood from the holly tree" back in the day, so the implications is that they are putting a spell on us using their movies, music and shows

Thats pretty heavy handed

Indeed

You're being played alright.

By himself?

Government does not mean mind control. So much of this objectively false.

He lost me when I got to the side note about women being more susceptible to demonic possession. Like, oh man so hes a religious nut, what a shame

almost all Biblical sacrifices are rams and sheep. Lamb of God. Parabels about shepherds and flocks of sheep. inside the light you will find a path to a Ram headed god.

Thank you for this.

Holy fuck this thread is brigaded hard. Look at the upvotes for bullshit comments. In the last hour non of this is organic. Authentic users of this sub, ask yourself why a great post like this is met with a brigade. There are things we are not allowed to talk about, this is one of them.

Because most of it sounds borderline insane. Ovary locusts man.

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I am, and have been for a while, an "authentic user of this sub", as you so put it. I hate to break it to you but your use of terms like "bullshit comments" imply you have some bias.

Bias is not really helpful in the science behind determining conspiracy.

Did you read it?

The links? I’m fairly familiar with the Vatican’s fuckery. My interest was peaked long ago when I learned what they named their telescope. Then I learned what that name really means. From there the whole Vatican nonsense unraveled pretty quickly for me. It’s a criminal organization , nothing more.

This post itself is a brigade.

This always happens on crap like this here. Highly upvoted post, full of comments pointing out how rediculous it is. Is this your first time in this sub?

You can talk about this stuff all you want, you are literally talking about it right now. It's just silliness to suggest otherwise.

"This thread isn't going my way!!! Better talk about brigades again. Can we get a contest mode here please?"

I agree

Yes, everyone who disagrees with this is clearly a satanic zionist shill!!! SPREAD TRUTH BROTHERS

Flat Earth?

The Worlds Largest Alter In The Vatican

This is some Number 23 shit going on here. Go see a doctor?

I mean I agree but didnt Jim Carrey end up having a good reason for being paranoid in the end?

Shhh! I still have to see that movie >_<

That's a good commercial for avocados!

For the most part these are propaganda spread by judeo-christian because they want to destroy catholisism. The pegans rites of europe has been merge with the christian beliefs in order to survive. When the christian began to understood that paganisme has been incorporated in the catholic iconography so they split.

One church (protestant) has no symbolism and only follow the word of christ, the other (catholic) has all these saints, mystical representation and imagery.

The "words of christ" are a misinterpretation of ancient pagan lore.

In America there was aholy war between the two groups. During the 19 century the anglo in Canada also caused a genocide because they do not want to live among the "heretic catholic".

In conclusion, if you fear those symbols, you are indeed being played. Having said that, the world is not what most people think. We live in an illusion created by usurpators most likely a kabal of psychopaths has you said.

so how's this all connected?

They're all links on a page. That's... about the extent of it.

But they’re all on the SAME page!

I'VE GOT BOXES FULL OF PEPE

W never was a letter itself. It's literally two V's. It's well known. It has masonic significance, Freeman Fly talked about it. V has satanic significance as well.

https://i.forfun.com/jfs0v8u3.png

Similar things with the letter 'U', right? Since that curved bottom was difficult to chisel.

Authentic users, a good idea would be to save this post and re post it periodically. I save all post that are heavily brigaded like this so that I can refer back to accounts and tactics used. Helps work through the gate keeping and helps with pattern recognition. I started doing this with PG threads and again with NASA threads. Save this post!!!

Downvoted and made note of this account. Be well.

Thanks for this.

VVew Lad.

Planking masters on that first linked image.

Majestic.

This effort would have been better spent on virtually anything else.

we live in a schizophrenic world.

Holy shit. I feel so bad for anyone who is this unstable. How fucking long did this take to post when you could've been doing ANYTHING else?

All organized religion exists to manipulate people into serving the king. The king of the world has control of all the money, energy and media. He, she or they have convinced humanity that we are servants to higher powers. Nature or the universe as it exists is the only power we answer to and we have no alternative but to cooperate or perish. Our king who we cannot even name with certainty is concerned with maintaining control and power regardless of poverty death and suffering. The only answer is to observe nature and cooperate with it and each other. All other truths are of less priority.

Good post

Aw shit anime is real

Supernaturalism is the enemy of rationality.

Such a non sequiter

*non sequitur

In what way?

Supernaturalism is only a matter of definition. What might seem supernatural is really only phenomenon unknown to the observer.

Our five senses limit our observation. A rational mind would see throwing away "supernaturalism" as meaningless if we have yet to understand the true scope of our "natural" world.

Ah, you're being disingenuous. You know full well that I mean the cosmogonic schemes that involve magic sky fairies and omnipotent beings who are all powerful yet do nothing. These same supernatural entities also have a habit of changing their stance in line with the fluctuating moods and themes of human political and social development. In a lot of ways it's as if the 'godhead' is nothing other than a useful tool to concentrate power over people into the hands of a select few.

Of course we don't know all there is to know, but evidence that we have a wide variety of deities, who all claim to be the one true deity, is curiously (although not unsurprisingly) lacking. All we have are ancient books written by people who claim they are the word of "god". There is no difference between the major religions and the belief in say ghosts. It's all bunkum.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society - Jiddu Krishnamurti

CRINGE

What a shit post.

YEAH, BUT WHY????

All religion is set up to manipulate, WITHOUT a doubt, Jesus was clear about this

to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith.

5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

6 Some have departed from these and have turned to meaningless talk.

7 They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm

Does anyone have a link for the spiritualism associated with intense nipple rubbing?

Posting to read later

Lmao dude, the fucking grasshoper eating a dick, how fucking insane do you have to be to see this shit

Finally something crazy

This is the kind of bullshit that makes conspiracy theorists look like morons. Thanks asshole.

how the fk did u get a serpent from the Obama portrait? rofl

actual portrait:

http://www.thisiscolossal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/PA_NPG_18_55-Obama-R-1.jpg

I do want to raise the point that many of these symbols and observances are very important natural phenomenon. For example, the VW symbol is the "Fingerprint of God", which describes the pulse or rhythm of the universe. Same could be said for astrology, the swastika, equinoxes, etc. We can't let them steal this knowledge from us by smearing it with evil.

Wow...

Truth is painful to the leftists. Downvotes helps them temporarily relieve the pain.

ITT: People trying hard but failing to deflect

This thread would be more fun if you redacted your points once we debunk them.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/160026/does-the-etymology-of-the-word-government-mean-to-control-the-mind

Los Angeles Hollywood was already debunked

But I don't think you're interested in fixing your mistakes...

This dude is so mad all the people are roasting his post 😂

Accounts, not likely authentic users. At some point you have to realize what Reddit is used for. Remember when spez got caught editing comments? This place is for the hivemind, it’s essentially nothing more than a propaganda tool for big brother. Be weary of the fucked up vote counts for some of the top comments in this thread. If you are new, start recognizing the patterns now. Goodluck brother, OP should not be getting roasted, it’s not an authentic reaction to a well sourced post. Be well

Thus bat shit crazy stuff is peak conspiracy. I love it

The similarity between human skin and reptile scales is not superficial, correct. They likely adapted from a common ancestor which originally bore a proto-placode of some kind. Feathered creatures also have placodes. Skin, feathers, and scales. Many images of the skin of other mammals also look similar to reptile scales. Other images of human skin look nothing like reptile scales. Look at bird feathers under a microscope, they look like little twigs. Birds aren't plants, though. It's kind of a silly comparison, and it certainly isn't evidence of anything.

Serpents aren't bad. Seraphim are serpents.

Fits rather well with the mythology of other lands where big serpent creatures do stuff good, and bad.

To add to this, there's a great deal of legitimate (as in, appropriate, non-evil or conspiratorial) iconography of serpents within the Orthodox church with a pretty lush theology behind it.

Hadnt seen the Kenzo ad - tres cool.

A whole lot of crazy in this one...

even though some of it is a stretch this is the content i came to see lmao

This is straight loony bin shit. Good lord.

Smoke less weed

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While the Roman State most definitely manipulated later Christianity beginning in the 4th century, I don't think the ERE had much of a connection to the Quran.

The reasons the muslims kicked ass were multifold- The Romans had just finished an exhaustive, 26 year war with the Sassanids- the centuries old blood enemy of the Romans. For more than 2 decades many of the provinces from Antioch to Egypt had slipped Imperial control, and had been retaken for less than a decade when Muhammad burst out of the Arabian wastes.

The war had devastated both Empires- but the Sassanids were ruined. Finally, for the first time since the mess began, when Crassus and several legions were utterly destroyed by the Parthians, 600 years later the Romans had ended the feud- but at great cost.

Additionally, the Roman communities that were conquered by the Muslims welcomed their new overlords- because of a massive Church schism that had been occurring over Iconoclasm- which saw the capital, Constantinople, adhering to different beliefs concerning Images and pictures, due to the influence of the Imperial Family, than other parts of the Empire- like Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Antioch. The muslims let the Christians remain if they paid the tax most of us are familiar with- and to many, this was preferable than living under an Emperor who pretended to be Christian, in their eyes.

Long in the short of it- if the Romans helped create the Quran, they fucked up big time.

brigaded by who?

Similar things with the letter 'U', right? Since that curved bottom was difficult to chisel.

Downvoted and made note of this account. Be well.

The links? I’m fairly familiar with the Vatican’s fuckery. My interest was peaked long ago when I learned what they named their telescope. Then I learned what that name really means. From there the whole Vatican nonsense unraveled pretty quickly for me. It’s a criminal organization , nothing more.

And then?

That's his gimmick, you are trying using a character trait he openly flaunts in his art as if it's... real. He's playing a role with this act.

Go find the same stuff in Neil Young's music. Or Elton John. Or Celine Dion. Or Faith Hill. Or Notorious B.I.G.

You are picking needles out a haystack, and claiming all of the hay is needles.

Are you a real user that I can ask? I've been lurking here for a little while and always hear about it but I haven't seen an explanation

That's actually sad. To downvote me because you didn't like my questions. Isn't that just really childish? You're supposed to downvote things that don't add to the discussion, it's not a passive aggresive "I don't like you" button. Please continue with your day, YouTube doesn't watch itself .

What kind of stuff does the Bible forbid? Catholics do not worship idols, statues, pictures or anything of that sort. The Catholic Church does not claim that the Pope's are Gods. If Popes claim to be Gods they wrong. Pope's can obviously be wrong. They are people and don't always speak the truth. Where does Jesus forbid the "whole idea of Popes? It seems to me that the Bible affirms the idea of Pope's.