There is an active agenda to make this sub /r/politics 2.0. I could say more, but, that would be very naughty of me...

I agree as well. I’d like to hear more about stuff that more “underground”. Not this content that’s being brought up by reading between the lines in news stories.

Say it. I am giving you carte blanche to speak your mind here, and there will be no recrimination.

We try to have a light touch. But we are very present.

No. I'm not playing this bullshit fuckin' game with some of you (you give me the green light - while others ban me for it). I've been saying/pointing out (in one way or another) this shit for years now. Nothing changes, and y'all don't listen. I'm better off pissing into the fuckin' wind, tbh.

People need to know, though... there is an active agenda to turn this place into /r/politics 2.0. I've said it, and that's it. You know it's the truth, as do a few other mods. You know exactly who I'm talking about. Merely mentioning their bitch ass names, will get me banned (how many times now?).

This sub has cancer and it's STAT level IV. Hiding under the guise of the "free flow of information". Give me a fuckin' break.

You're so torn up? Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEFxfVyz4Uc.

How many posts and comments have I posted/contributed here? How much have I contributed? How much have I tried? How many times have I been banned? How much have I been attacked? How fuckin' much? I'm still here, though.

I contemplated sending this as a PM (response to yours), but, no... The Community needs to see this shit. Let's see if you and ya'll hold up to what you say...

Wow lol

If you're concerned about the mods banning you for the 56th time then you can always just make your own sub and post your thoughts there...

If you're concerned about the mods banning you for the 56th time

Why would he be worried? He told the mods to "suck my uncut dick", they banned him for it, then unbanned him a week or two later. Many people are banned permanently for much less.

It's all an act.

PLC likes to pretend he has groundbreaking, earthshaking pants, splitting information that would tear this sub apart - BUT the mods would ban him if he revealed it, oh well guess you'll never know.

1"I have the information"

2"What is the information?"

1"Can't say, sorry. But know that I have it".

His girlfriend is in high school in Canada and you wouldn’t know her but she is so hot, believe me.

Preach!

People need to know, though... there is an active agenda to turn this place into /r/politics

You know the guys trashing the place (usual suspects) are the ones harming the sub the most? I don't know why you're taking it out on the mods

I used to spend about 2 hours a day on this sub. It was very interesting. Now it’s all politics. If I wanted to see politics I would go to a news sub. How about real controversial subjects. That would be nice. Otherwise, it just seems like a big ol’circle jerk in every post.

awww, poor /u/Putin_loves_cats , he has tried so hard to make this sub entirely about his own point of view and the things he believes, but everybody else won't get in line and lockstep?

He always came across as an older generation guy to me from the way he writes. Until now. Dunno if it's just me, seen an awful lot of Putin and never seen him use fuckin' like that.

But what the fuck do I know.

Don't understand why you're being downvoted. Your username is the only one I knowingly recognize from here. Don't stop caring!

Maybe you need a safe space.

I am giving

Do you speak for all of the mods?

Yes I am speaking for them all in this case I guess? They will back this play at the very least.

Then I will not speak on this issue. I am not going to lose my account base of a guess. Thanks for responding.

We need to have this conversation and it needs to be public.

I agree. However, as you stated above, you don't know if you speak for all the other mods which makes it impossible to have an open and honest discussion about this.

I say this because I have been indirectly threatened by someone in a position of power for speaking out against Flat Earth on this sub. That is what this has degraded into people afraid to talk because saying the wrong thing will get them banned.

And I can't post links to said comments because the rules don't allow it.

If you and the other mods want an open discussion change the rules so it is possible and remove anyone in a position of power who abuses their authority.

Thanks for having this discussion like this. I honestly do appreciate it but I do have a big target on my head since I defended math, physics, and observational evidence.

Flat earth is a psyop that some of our users unfortunately sucked up. None of the mods here will ban you for lambasting it. If you have problems PM me. I love science. I'm a fucking scientist lol. I can even do math, it's great.

Will do! Thanks (Man/Person/They/Lady/Them/) :)

Man.

If you won't say it, I will - As you stated, this sub is no longer a place where you are able to speak up about topics that doesn't fit the "accepted" way of thinking, you are not allowed to question the narrative, and you are Certainly not allowed to post anything remotely Pro-Trump when it comes to conspiracies... *Cough*....Q....*Cough*

I don't know if it is only a /conspiracy problem, but votes are being heavily tampered with, thereby controlling what people see and read.

You pretty much prove my point Mastigia - It shouldn't be nessesary for a moderator to give "carte blanche" to someone for telling the truth..

I would encourage all you moderators, to read what this sub is about. If you forgot then i'll summarize.

"The conspiracy subreddit is a thinking ground, hoping to challenge issues which have captured the publics imagination, aiming at making the world more transparent and a better place for everyone" - It's not saying -

"This sub is only for the conspiracies we see fit for public view, we don't want too much truth out there"

you are Certainly not allowed to post anything remotely Pro-Trump

This place has more resembled /r/the_donald 2.0 in the past year than /r/politics, but it doesn't seem clear to me why multiple established, independent and trusted news sources are somehow less valuable unless they don't fit your narrative.

What? Look around at every thread in thisbsub right now. Any thread that is anti-ia, or anti-deepstate, or anti-msm is heavily brigaded. Tons of users calling Hillary clean and getting upvoted, while dissenters are downvoted into oblivon.

It's only on Tuesdays when this place gets like that, I've been keeping track for a year. Tuesday is the day clearly organized and internet-illiterate paid trolls come here to post extremely tone-deaf stuff like that.

It’s almost like the dissenters are wrong and deserve it

It sounds more like you’re crying that not everyone thinks the way that you do and you’re trying to force it on everyone

If you don’t like the sub, leave and start your own.

This sub has changed considerably over the past couple of years. Can I not express discontent?

Sure, but I’m allowed to respond since this is a public forum and you have to deal with the consequences of your words

Stop crying. You sound like a child complaining about how life isn’t fair.

Thanks for the advice

You’re welcome, glad I could help

Are you the woman who wore the shirt...

"Spoiler alert. Hillary wins!" ??

Definitely not, I am a Bernie supporter

Oh, sweet summer child. Bless your heart.

🤷🏻‍♀️

Lmao now what, I’m a woman who voted for Bernie, where do we go from here?

Well, I'd like to recommend a book for you. This may just open your eyes to the negative ECONOMIC impacts of socialism, not to mention the very real human impact (death, starvation, violence).

[PDF]Basic Economics A Citizen’s guide to the Economy By Thomas Sowell altfeldinc.com/pdfs/BASICECONOMICS.pdf

Nah, I’m good, thanks though!

You know what they say....

Ignorance is Bliss

Removed. Rule 6.

If you're trying to make a hashtag, type \#ThisIsAHashtag to get #ThisIsAHashtag.

Removed. Rule 10.

There’s that narrative! “It’s not vote brigades, you’re opinions are wrong!”

You do realize that argument is the sole purpose for vote brigading, right? To try and give the appearance of consensus.

Are you honestly trying to argue that that majority consensus opinion in this conspiracy sub is that Hillary is innocent of all crimes because a legitimate investigation concluded so?

And I'm Santa Claus!

Are you trying to imply that the majority of a conspiracy sub should trust the American government and follow behind the president?

Annnnnd thank you for providing the second go-to narrative! "This is a conspiracy sub, why are you all government boot-lickers that trust the establishment!?!?!"

First of all, a large majority do not blindly "follow behind the president". Just because people call the media out on their bull shit attempts to de-legitimize him, doesn't make them "followers".

When a presidential candidate wins on a campaign of getting rid of DC corruption (which unquestionably includes the MSM), are you seriously that surprised that a conspiracy sub is willing to give him a chance?? You think just because he won, we will all of a sudden trust CNN and the Washington Post?? Get real!

Yet here you are, spouting the same bull shit that they have been trying to push here for nearly 2 years now. And I'm sure you'll get the upvotes, because that is precisely the purpose of vote brigading in the first place. Luckily more and more people are catching on to the fact that vote totals no longer matter in this sub, especially in any post that hits the FP.

So because you're getting upvoted and I'm not, does that mean I can claim there's a vote brigade going on? After 2 years of him just adding to the DC corruption what has he done for me to believe he's any different than any president before him

So because you're getting upvoted and I'm not, does that mean I can claim there's a vote brigade going on?

That's a fair statement, though it's a bit of a false equivalency. It's a common pattern I've noticed, that when you blatantly call out vote brigading on a post, the vote totals quickly balance themselves out to what you'd expect them to be. After years of being a regular contributor here, it becomes very easy to see when posts are behaving abnormally, and vote totals are getting manipulated.

After 2 years of him just adding to the DC corruption what has he done for me to believe he's any different than any president before him

I'm still not sure about him. One way he is absolutely different than any president before him, is that he is actually following through on campaign promises (despite what the media might tell you). It's still too early to tell if he's just a pied piper candidate, or if he legitimately made it past the gatekeepers and will enact some real change in DC corruption.

I encourage everyone to stay skeptical, but to also not fall for the MSM non-stop hatred that they spew about him 24/7. The harder "the establishment" fight against him, the more likely I think he'll actually follow through on trying to "drain the swamp". When top Democrats AND top Republicans, AND the MSM, AND all of Hollywood are fighting against him, it's time to rethink who the enemies really are.

I would say anyone pointing to upvotes for validation one way or the other 3-4 replies in is reaching for a magical goalpost in general because few people read or vote on those posts.

Once again, I don’t think you know how to properly use the phrase “goalpost”. If I make a claim, and then you challenge it, and I then walk back or change my claim, THEN you could say I moved the goalposts.

You claiming that I’m “reaching for a magical goalpost” makes absolutely no sense.

How about those vote totals now, eh??

After 5 hours there was a 14 vote swing. So does that mean there's 2 brigades fighting each other or what? Cause your post isn't even negative still

There's "off hours" voting, and then there's 9-5 voting. Weekends and early mornings/late nights are when you get organic voting. Only on weekdays between roughly 9-5 do you see large vote swings like that. Also notice, all my posts have the red cross (controversial) next to them, while yours do not. Another telltale sign of brigading.

I promise you, as someone who's been here for over 4 years straight, it becomes clear as day. My beliefs are more in line with this sub than the users I argue, yet the ones arguing mainstream talking points seem to always win out in threads like these.

Maybe now that you know this, you'll start to see irregularities yourself.

My posts not having a controversial marker makes sense because I didn't really say anything that polarizing. I agree there is a vote swing during that time, but if half the day the sub sways one way and the other half the sub sways the opposite way, who's to say which half is 'right'

That's fair, but it's not just our conversation, it's almost every post of mine ITT.

And the way to tell which half is "right" is the half that has been the same for 6+ years now (I lurked for a few years before signing up). The beliefs and ideals held by actual conspiracy theorists in which this thread was founded on, has since become a mirror of subs like r/politics and r/news during the day. It's a consorted effot (backed by reddit admins) in order to try and control the narrative of any topic you can find on reddit. From corporate shilling, to political, to Hollywood and the movie industry... it's all completely rigged.

The reason it's most noticable here, is because a large majority of the time, the conspiracy angle on any topic almost always collides with the MSM narrative being pushed. So how do you control that? By doing exactly what they've been doing for over 2 years now.

I can provide more info or examples if I'm even making the tiniest bit of sense to you.

I'm pretty sure for the past 6 years we haven't been pro-president or pro-government. But that's what this sub has been since 2016 now, I don't disagree that there's a lot of people who come here in bad faith on both sides, I know there's posters who come here to post stories negative of trump whether or not there's an actual conspiracy behind them, but there are also a lot of people who come here blindly defending Trump also and that's a slap in the face to everything conspiracy related

See right there. You just pushed a straight up propaganda narrative that I’ve been calling people out on all day.

You’re correct, for the last 6 years this sub hasn’t been pro-President. We’ve actually been rather anti-government. So when a presidential candidate runs (and wins) on a platform of “These people are all corrupt. I’m not a politician. I’ll drain the swamp.”, what part of that surprises you that he’s the candidate that many in the conspiracy community support??

A large majority of the users I see here defend Trump do so in a much more logical choice, thoughtful, and reasonable manner than the people who come here to shit on him. If anything, the “blind supporting” is far more evident when you look at the anti-Trump crowd, that does nothing but parrot unverified MSM talking points that they haven’t even fact checked themselves.

The only slap in the face to conspiracy theorists is when people come here from r/news or r/politics, and try to push whatever bull shit story is currently “breaking” at CNN. Or when those same people come in here and try to call ME a shill government bootlicking Russian troll bot.

Well he hasn't done anything in almost 2 years now to 'drain the swamp' so when do you admit you were lied to? That you swallowed their propaganda, when does this sub face reality that the billionaire isn't as down to earth as they thought.

Dude are you messing with me right now? Are you a legit bot? Every single response you’ve given is nearly identical to the responses I’ve gotten ITT all day, it’s almost suspicious. Never once have you broken from talking points, and just addressed anything I’ve said with a legitimate response.

Are you sticking to a script or something?

But to answer your question, until he’s out of office (via term ending, not impeachment). I’m completely fine with his policy implementations so far, so I didn’t “swallow any propaganda” at all. I hated TPP, I support tax cuts, and I like how he’s handling trade deals. Literally 150% better than a Clinton presidency.

And thank you for posting more magical goalposts!

Aaaaaaaand more magical golaposts to validate your bullshit!

I'm not sure you are using the term "goalposts" properly.

What is your point? Care to address anything I said specifically that you consider to be "moving goalposts"?

Oh, I'm sure I'm using them correctly and you're lying. I've read your posts, you take literally any response and say "AND THARRRS THAT EVIDENCE I WAS LUKIN' FURRRRR HYUK HUK!" Those are magical goalposts.

Tactic #3: Attack the credibility of someone whom you can't argue with logic and reason, by making false claims about their post history and beliefs they hold, in order to try and get other people reading to discredit the accurate things I've said above.

You're literally going point for point down the forum slider's playbook. Keep up the hard work!

LOL

I'm not sure you are using the term "goalposts" properly.

You're a bad faith troll. Everything you say is probably a lie. You have a persecution complex and you are delusional and upset that we don't share your delusion. Go back to your echo chamber. You have said literally nothing substantial except. "WARTCH MUH YEWTOOB LINKY-LINK."

Tactic #3: Attack the credibility of someone whom you can't argue with logic and reason, by making false claims about their post history and beliefs they hold, in order to try and get other people reading to discredit the accurate things I've said above.

Removed. Rule 10.

When a presidential candidate wins on a campaign of getting rid of DC corruption (which unquestionably includes the MSM), are you seriously that surprised that a conspiracy sub is willing to give him a chance??

It's been a year, what actions has the administration taken that you feel have lessened corruption?

On the other hand it is hard for an informed person to honestly say that htey can't think of anything the current administration has done that doesn't at least have an appearance of corruption (taxpayer funding of maro-lago visits, cabinet nepotism, foreign payments to Trump hotels, opaque Trump finances, etc.)...

It's been a year, what actions has the administration taken that you feel have lessened corruption?

Following through on other campaign promises (taxes, TPP, moving the embassy, etc.) leads me to believe that his other promises (term limits, campaign finance reform, "draining the swamp") are still very much a possibility. The fact that the establishment is doing absolutely anything and everything they can to try and convince the world that we need to impeach him NOW also makes me think that he's legitimately throwing a wrench into the corrupted machine known as DC politics.

So "informed person" to you means someone who watches the MSM every day and reads the Washington Post? Every single little trivial misdeed of his becomes a BREAKING NEWS OMG SCANDAL, yet they never said shit about Obama doing the same (and even worse in some cases).

I'm still erring on the side of "he probably won't drain shit", but I'm also not jumping on the "anti-Trump at all costs" bandwagon that the MSM and establishment VERY CLEARLY are doing everything they can to get people on. The fact that this doesn't raise any red flags to you, must mean that you still "trust" the MSM, which means you are far from "informed".

TLDR: You can't name a single thing this administration has done to limit corruption, have no rebuttal for the things that at least have the appearance of corruption, but the media doesn't like the President so it's clear that he's good.

Is this your idea of how to have a conversation with people? If you're not even going to represent my ideas correctly in your shitty TLDR, then you're obviously not going to be interested in having an honest exchange of ideas and opinions.

Ok, which part of your post did I miss?

This is EXACTLY what these geniuses are implying. Not just the government but the government under someone who's shown a deep desire to be a dictator with his praise of other multiple totalitarian leaders in Turkey, North Korea, Russia, The Philippines, etc.

Hey guy, how about instead of spreading bull shit and INTENTIONALLY misrepresenting my ideas, you try actually reading for a change.

It’s hilarious how just a few hours ago, every single one of your posts ITT was negative, yet now they are all magically at the top of each chain. Totally organic!!! /s

Let me know when I’ve said anything about Hilary. I fact I didn’t. I’m just tired of seeing grown ass man whine and complain when others don’t agree with their opinions.

Don't try to deflect, I was obviously refering to what the user you literally just replied to said, and you mocked him for it.

So now I'll just ask you directly. It's a simple litmus test.

Do you believe that the majority consensus opinion in this conspiracy sub is that Hillary is innocent of all crimes because a legitimate investigation concluded so?

Lol I’m not deflecting, I’m stating facts. Facts are facts America!

And no, I do not think the majority of this sub is pro-hilary is any way shape or form. In fact, I think the people in real life, around the world, are majority not pro-Hilary either. I believe a majority of people who voted for her, only did because she was the lesser of two evils.

Tons of users calling Hillary clean and getting upvoted, while dissenters are downvoted into oblivon.

It’s almost like the dissenters are wrong and deserve it

It sounds more like you’re crying that not everyone thinks the way that you do and you’re trying to force it on everyone

...I'll ignore the fact that you are trying to bull shit me when everyone can see exactly what you just said.

So if we agree that a majority of people in real life, and in this sub, are not pro-Hilary, then how do you explain what u/_genmaicha is describing if not vote brigading?

Because I’m not talking about that guy specifically, I’m limping him in with other users that can’t deal with people not agreeing with him ffs

Deflection. Not even sure what that is in response to.

Now you’re claiming that you were just building a straw man to attack a faceless group of “users that can’t deal with people not agreeing with them”, rather than address the legitimate claim of the user you then proceed to mock, yet refused to answer my questions regarding his original statements.

Seriously, what are you even doing here? Because it sure as hell isn’t to have an open and honest discussion about differing opinions. Seems like you’re just here to disrupt the conversation with nonsense.

And you just pick one word out of a sentence and focus your attack on that and just keep at it like it actually makes a difference. I don’t care, you’re arguing with me about something and honestly, I don’t even know or care what that is.

People have and will continue to have, different opinions and you will have to learn to deal with that fact. Byeeeee

Such a child.

Such a condescending douche

There’s that narrative!

There's that magical goalpost!

What?

Dude...

Even talking about Hilary at this point in time is exactly what (((they))) want.

She is so unimportant its ridiculous. There is even a still somewhere here saying that "Republicans have sneared her name for,20 years" Hah! What a load of bullshit.

Cant believe there are either people stupis enough to write that. Also cant believe there are people slimy enough to,be paid to write that.

Omg my Clinton!

Why isn't Trump investigating her? Maybe the real conspiracy is the GOP has been smearing her family for decades and pulled the wool over your eyes.

Why isn't Trump investigating her?

Because the FBI is doing that for him. Just because you don't actively follow it and Reddit doesn't force it down your throat doesn't mean it's not happening.

There is an active investigation into the Clinton Foundation. It's been going on for a while now.

Because the FBI is doing that for him

For him?

I assume opposed to him doing it himself?

The FBI is meant to serve the American people, it isn't the Presidents personal investigation squad.

In this case "doing it for him" probably means something like "already doing it so he has no need to do it himself".

...Correct.

Yeah, and us. They do it so we don't have to.

Buncha swells, they are.

I think you've misunderstood something because there is no investigation of the CF. You may be thinking of some arkansas field office who were "looking at" the case but hadn't began any official investigation.

I seem to recall Jeff Sessions saying there was nothing there.

In closing, lol

Or perhaps there are less people propagating Trump's absolute bullshit parade.

Ding ding.

Gotta browse by /new, it's the beating heart of the sub and ground zero against the shills.

People calling HRC clean aren't even real Leftists...they shit on those of us to the Left of her too.

They're the "with us or against us" democrats. The tribalism is palpable. They downvote you if you support anyone other than their favored politicians. Post something pro Biden or Hillary and look for upvotes. Post something pro Bernie and watch out.

Also this comment chain was linked in TuMOR- who I knew would downvote that comment- what pathetic people.

Keep trying to bury us- it's cute ;)

Yep, a total flip-flop has occurred. This sub was arguably pro-Trump, but has flipped to anti-Trump recently. If nothing else outs subreddit manipulation, this does.

Can you please list specific examples of users in this sub calling HRC 'clean'?

http://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8lfmgo/republicans_announce_theyre_going_after_hillary/dzg1395

Not the best way example, but there was another thread I’m trying to track down from last night. Waking up this morning, I was surprised to see the vote swing that happened, makes my decrying seem less reasonable.

http://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8lfmgo/republicans_announce_theyre_going_after_hillary/dzg1395

http://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8lfmgo/republicans_announce_theyre_going_after_hillary/dzg4nc3

Thanks for the examples. This is kind of a grey example though, as the majority of the highly public Republican investigations (Benghazi, etc) did seem politically motivated at the end.

She's definitely not a 'clean' politician, she has so many ties to backroom deals, connections at the highest levels of corporations and countries, and the political motive to accomplish power hungry goals, but at the same time, it's hard to nail down such a slippery person. She testified multiple times for dozens of hours before congress and still they couldn't pin her down.

So the other guy interpreted it as purely political motivated investigations, I think a more apt definition would be it started in something real but turned political because she was so slippery. Pretty similar to Cheney and Gitmo related affairs. Something was horribly wrong, approved from the top, but only underlings were punished.

Anyway, not defending her, just saying she appears 'clean' to some due to slipperiness.

but it doesn't seem clear to me why multiple established, independent and trusted news sources are somehow less valuable unless they don't fit your narrative.

It doesn't seem clear to me why you're here praising the forces integral to creating your false reality and, ultimately, imprisoning your mind.

Unless... are you actually fighting to maintain the crumbling false construct around you?

It doesn't seem clear to me why you're here praising the forces integral to creating your false reality

No U!

Literally, this is what you're saying when you talk past facts and insist your selective news sources are more authoritative because reasons. Mine are more authoritative because of legal accountability and their reputation being on the line. Everything you just said was a copout.

Whoosh

"my propaganda is official propaganda"

LMAO

Whoosh

"my low effort cookie cutter projection that puts words in peoples mouths that they didn't say while complaining about fake news is my magical goalpost."

LMAO

Yep, a total flip-flop has occurred. This sub was arguably pro-Trump, but has flipped to anti-Trump recently. If nothing else outs subreddit manipulation, this does.

Oh, because majority opinion and Russian bots pushing propaganda being outnumbered is a magical goal post. Got it.

Russian bots, goal posts, wth? This sub even participating in partisan politics is insane, but beyond that, to have the sub switch sides in such a short time feels anything but organic.

This sub even participating in partisan politics is insane

Yes, the very power structure that overtly controls literally everything is outside the scope of a conspiracy subreddit. That's what I call a magical goalpost.

+10 now.

-17 in about 2 hours

^{They haven’t made it into work yet}

Certainly not allowed to post anything remotely Pro-Trump when it comes to conspiracies... Cough....Q....Cough

Really? I find that if you point out that Q has a horrible track record people go insane and attack you. Lots of Q supporters simply ignore all that they have gotten wrong.

I'll just say it. This Q business is the dumbest LARP of all time.

That could not be further from the truth. It’s literally the complete opposite.

Just muddying the waters, as usual. Man you guys are getting good at this.

Was John Podesta arrested on 11th March this year?

I don't care. I'm not arguing the legitimacy of Q, I'm saying that would you just said is grade A bull shit.

Guess I just made up the messages and PMs then.

Good to know!

Oh how convenient that all of your proof for such a veritably false statement is private and unavailable for anyone to verify your bullshit claim... guess you win!

I bet you don't understand how your post above this one undermines your argument.

Except I've got proof that your claim is false. All you have is "messages and PM's" that no one can verify without a screen shot provided by you.

I've got plenty more concrete examples of people getting attacked/brigaded for bringing up Q. What proof do you have? I'd love a screenshot of all the PMs attacking you for saying Q is bull shit...

I'll wait.

I'd love a screenshot of all the PMs attacking you for saying Q is bull shit...

What would that prove? You would simply go into flat Earth mode and say the images are CGI.

Tell you what setup a new account and play devils advocate in the appropriate subs and see what happens. That way you can yourself gather the evidence you need.

I doubt you will do this as you know what will happen and you aren't willing to admit that to yourself, much less admit it to the public.

Personally I do want to read about conspiracies in the mainstream news -- when it involves actual conspiracies. There's usually interesting layers to any conspiracy that the msm missed / the masses are unaware of that this sub can help explore.

Wait Putin loves cats?!?

I tried to fix it before it was too late but the admins slapped my hand.

Last time I pointed this it in this sub my comment was removed

It's almost as if a massive conspiracy is currently being uncovered in the political world...

I wouldn't call anything on that sub "news." It's all Op-eds.

Mate you can't be serious here, r/news is obviously controlled, where else other than /r/conspiracy can we discuss freely nowadays?

Oh I bet they’re for serious

This is not a free for all sub. It’s a conspiracy sub, its purpose is not for it to be a safe haven for news.

Pretty sure there’s /r/uncensorednews anyway

You mean the other controlled sub?

That sub was banned a month or so ago, actually.

Damn...

You act like you own this sub. Don't like it? Then leave

Nah. I think I’ll stay.

Okay then quit whining like a little bitch

You act like you own this sub. Don't like it? Then leave

Agreed.

Make everything a Damn conspiracy and everything will be doubted. People will die testing the waters but evwntually we'll come around.

Make everything a Damn conspiracy and everything will be doubted.

Exactly this. Also everything will be doubted when you pretend to be the gatekeeper to the only real news.

It is by design that regular 'news' bullshit is being posted constantly in r/conspiracy it is to make sure the real shit is as hidden as possible.

Lowers the signal to noise ratio.

Always been tempted to follow the fluff to see if it leads to a controversial topic or heavily downvoted post. Til then, I browse by /new and watch live.

It is also by design that the unlimited corporate "speech" of the 5-4 Citizens United Supreme Court case permitted corporations to use any or all of their profits for electioneering. Same concept.

Also being against the "real news" being posted helps hide what Trump has done / is doing. When the "real news' covered clinton not that many complained in this sub IIRC.

Brock roaches coming in here posting NYT and Wapo like it’s supposed to impress anybody.

Can you give an example?

You din't seem to realize the entire modern world is a conspiracy.

lol so true. It is happening though, with stories of the DOJ, Clinton, and Lynch and others being under investigation yesterday by republicans. Its like, hello that's just a news story. Yes, it vindicates conspiracy theorists who said there was foul play and it needed to be investigated, and yes it relates to us but, its not a conspiracy that an investigation is in fact happening. Thats just simply, the news

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8k7z9d/racist_snowflake_trump_supporter_cowers_in_safe/

Crying because no everyone believes in the same conspiracies you do, so you throw a fit. Grow up. Scroll by what you don’t like like everyone else. Make your own subreddit if you don’t like it but all I’m herring is some whining asshole going “you guuuuuuuys!” Over bullshit

I don’t believe in many conspiracies posted here, but I also don’t want anyone getting discouraged to post their thoughts on conspiracies. News, on the other hand, they don’t belong here unless it’s related to a conspiracy. OP is specifically referring to this tendency. Folks getting banned from news or politics subs for not following their rules or going against what they like come here to post non-conspiracy related articles. They don’t belong here.

I never said don’t post what you don’t want. What I don’t like is someone complaining that others don’t share the same thoughts and opinions, and then trying to force it on others. If you don’t like the way things are run, make your own sub. Making posts complaining about it only muddles the sub up

I get that, but OP is not complaining about his posts not getting attention or he ring ridiculed, he’s complaining about other people posting content that doesn’t belong here.

Is he a mod? Can’t he message someone about it? Instead of posting a post, doing exactly what he dislikes is happening in the sub?

Why not comment and @ a mod on a post he felt is t right for the sub?

Who says they don't belong here, you, or the mods who are allowing it?

Maybe just you don't belong here

News, on the other hand, they don’t belong here unless it’s related to a conspiracy

What news has been posted here that is unrelated to a conspiracy?

....and what conspiracy theories are you interested in?

I don’t make any posts in those other subreddits either, but comment all the time. I wasn’t aware that was a rule, that in order to comment you must also make posts....oh wait, it’s not.

I read a lot of posts in a lot of subs and never comment. I’m also in makeup subs, earth porn subs, mystery subs and a few others.

I have every right to comment when I see fit. Just because I read a lot of the content without commenting, doesn’t mean I’m not aware of what’s being said.

Would you look at that karma graph!

Totes organic account

You seem to be wasting a bunch of time on me, I must have struck a nerve

Cause ya know, most normal people just ignore and scroll by. Not worry about reddit karma

Checking and making that screenshot took me the better part of a whole 2 mins

It was a pleasure!

You mean taking the time to go to my account, find the graph part of my account, screen shot the graph, and then host the picture and post a link here?

Again, better things to do with your time than worry about how legit of a user I am on reddit lol

That graph is from snoopsnoo, didn't have to look far

And for screenshots, gyazo is amazing

Again, the effort for a stranger on the internet....if only you could use your powers for good....

There's a lot of them in here today... Good catch.

Oh shit!

This is massively representative of the influx of people we're getting, who aren't interested in conspiracies at all but rather mainstream news they can find anywhere else. Or rather, they aren't even interested in that, but instead drowning out or subverting genuine content here.

It's telling that you've been downvoted for exposing this

Literally any time anyone talks about “discrediting conspiracy theorists” or “making conspiracy theorists look like nutjobs” etc., it turns out that they aren’t conspiracy theorists.

If you don’t think there are groups with a vested interest in disrupting forums like this you’re a fool.

You’re welcome, glad I could help

I think this speaks to the broader issue of how all news is editorial comments not actual news. See the news is just the facts what happened, the moment a reporter says something like "I think" or "I believe" they are no longer simply giving you the news they are giving you the news and there personal thoughts about it. This situation sets up people to say it's bullshit or "fake news" because they don't share the same thoughts and ideas as the reporter.

This of course is all because we have like 50 24 hour news networks now and there are simply just not enough breaking stories to feed you just the facts. Then you bring in the panel so you don't have just some jackass and his opinion but 5 jackasses fighting about who has the best opinion. Like the entire broadcast news system forgot it's up to the viewer to establish there own ideas.

The news is reports of facts, not the facts themselves. It’s important to lay as much attention to the unreported information.

It also annoys me no end how interviewers don’t ask hard questions, or when they do and get a fluff answer, don’t call out the bs.

Sorry not sorry for The unrelated rant.

Well the left has kinda taken over the conspiracy realm. They continently have news articles to push their conspiracies.

Lol get serious

But Russia!!!

To restate what another poster said above: every news story is evidence of a conspiracy these days. The basis for this conclusion is how it moves so many people to angry distraction.

This sub is no longer what it used to be. It's been ruined by an influx of people that don't take real conspiracy theories seriously; they just come to make fun of the "tin foil hat" wearers. Therefore they shit post here and bury all the interesting stuff.

I used to visit this sub almost exclusively and it's gone downhill so bad I only visit it maybe once a week. It's sad.

Today is particularly really bad around here.

Why do you think?

I don't think these stories are going to just break in conspiracy subreddits when they finally break, so the joke is on them.

Try /r/C_S_T

Smaller sub but way better material and less censorship with more actual discussion of "conspiracies" - with a wide range of topics. Not necessarily all conspiratorial but still gets you thinking.

Woah! Interesting topics! You're a life saver man (And by that I mean - my days at work will no longer drag)

Lol, happy to help! I've been there ever since I noticed this sub going downhill. Far better discussions and material in C_S_T. It's my new home for when I'm craving thought-provoking stuff.

See you in a few weeks!

r/C_S_T

It's notba /r/conspiracy replacement, but it does offer a different flavor of the genre.

Lol front page has a thread talking about mentioning any Jewish conspiracy is cognitive dissonance. Lmao hasbara sub fail

I imagine that /r/whooshed you.

It's OK.

You mean the_donald folks suddenly don't have as much sway here as when they completely took it over during the election and after

Uh, how long have you been browsing this sub?

Me? I actually started a reddit account to comment on r/conspiracy a few years ago. Was a lurker for a loooooooooong time lol.

No, I meant /u/GobBluth19 lol

7 years

You?

You mean 2 years. Starting right around election time. Nice try though.

You think people use only one account in their lives on reddit?

I'm assuming you mean on another account, considering yours is just 2 years old...

Correct

I didn't vote for the DT. I didn't vote for HRC. But I certainly entertained the shit out of the leaked docs that showed that HRC fucked Bernie over and promoted DT as a pied piper candidate. Say what you want, but /r/conspiracy was the only place to get the real scoop. And that kind of shit can't be allowed by the parties.

Ok? Yet suddenly people are demanding we not talk about what trump did and is currently doing

People still bring up her, but don't bring up the gop literally changing rules mid race in the prior election to stop Ron Paul from getting delegates

Both parties do the same shady shit to elect candidates they want and no it shouldn't be ok. But there's still a massive difference between each of them

It's not an election year.

Yet trump and his supporters can't stop talking about her, especially here

What if I told you that you don't have to be a Trump supporter to dislike HRC?

I'm still not sure what point you're trying to make then by saying it's not an election year

Did you come to this sub during the Ron Paul scandle?

It was talked about regularly here when it was relevant.

You just made my point for me.

Hillary is no longer relevant either

Same with Bush and 9/11?

You do realize that OP is complaining that people are talking about current conspiracies right? Only because the conspiracies are about someone he likes

What matters is who is saying it, not who it's about.

That's certainly not what op said

I certainly never said it's what op said

Useful idiots from r/politics invaded this place. See yourself.

I think that's their plan. To discourage us from even trying to fight against the bots and shills. But lies are easily disproven with truth and I for one am not giving in. This sub still gets tens of thousands of views daily and still a good way to wake people up.

It's been ruined by an influx of people that don't take real conspiracy theories seriously; they just come to make fun of the "tin foil hat" wearers.

Unless you start talking about anything involving Trump or Russia, then they break out the tinfoil real quick!

i dunno how tin foil it is if republicans felt the need to appoint a special prosecutor, and feel the need to tell the president 'hey dont fire the guy investigating'

You can do that, but you can also find exactly the same on /r/news or /r/politics. Or hell, go to any mainstream news website, or turn on your television

If news like that comes to dominate the frontpage on /r/conspiracy, then it will drown out the minority (or suppressed) viewpoints that give this sub a reason to exist.

At any given moment the front of this sub is covered by stories about evil jews and why we need to commit a real genocide, because the other genocide was fake. It's really fucked up, this sub has gone to shit. It used to be awesome.

What's sad- There are African American people at my work that I have literally heard say, "Hitler had it right. Jews are taking over the world. We should have gotten them all". I swear. Like, do they not know that Hitler would have put them in the "gas chamber" category?

Like, do they not know that Hitler would have put them in the "gas chamber" category?

There are no records of even a single black person being put in a "gas chamber".

Same here man! It’s really a shame, there used to be actual discussion! The fact that others are commenting on your first comment the way they are.. wtf

It’s this divide and conquer bullshit that brought us all here in the first place! Why does everything have to be a fucking fight? It’s toxic, I don’t even like this sub anymore. Unsubscribing.

I agree with this 100% I really don’t mind political conspiracies in fact that’s the best kind for me. But when day after day the top posts link to msm news articles with submission statement sounding like it was written by the head of United Nations it gets old.

link to msm news articles

"The evidence THESE conspiracies goes against muh beliefs."

Nobody gave a shit about mainstream news posts here until The Dotard happened.

Utter bullshit.

Here are several top-rated posts from 4+ years ago condemning the mainstream media:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1oxn6j/the_medias_lens/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/295in9/teen_arrested_for_planning_massacre_article/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1lnqmc/did_anyone_see_them_cut_ron_paul_off_of_cnn_just/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1io0sf/obamas_sweeping_trayvon_statement_successfully/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1vm0s3/hunderds_of_thousands_protester_at_ocuppy_bangkok/

/r/conspiracy 2008-2017: "Don't trust the media!"

/r/conspiracy 2018: "Wait no, the corporate-owned media is totally trustworthy and definitely has our best interests at heart. We should listen to them"

Nah, I don't buy it.

UTTER BULLSHIT. I've seen countless mainstream media links on this sub long before now. I'm not going to give a fuck about someone railing like a broken clock on the mainstream media without having even a modicum of objectivity. UTTER BULLSHIT.

Funny how when it is / was "regular news" about Hillary or the Democrats we didn't hear much talk like this...

Such as?

Such as

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7aata4/donna_brazile_says_the_dnc_did_rig_the_election

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6zw0ow/amazon_deletes_onestar_reviews_of_hillary

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/448zl4/iowa_dem_who_wont_release_caucus_results_has_hrc

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4wz29a/julian_assange_makes_it_clear_on_dutch_news_that

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3gla1e/hillary_clinton_under_fire_for_buying_2_million

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/519rle/embroiled_qb_colin_kaepernick_i_mean_we_have_a

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4l0e9w/breaking_news_hillary_clinton_repeatedly_broke

Etc

This is evidence of a conspiracy in broad daylight. What's the problem?

I was replying to someone who asked for examples of MSM representation of DNC attacks posted on this sub.

Apparently comprehension is the the problem.

Those are all threads about a potential conspiracy. Not one of those posts would be considered just "regular news".

No one is having trouble comprehending anything. Except maybe you and the definition of "regular news".

Well when the regular news is pay 2 play

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44215656

I think its fair to post it.

You know what the #1 biggest difference is between that article, and the negative ones about Hilary that you listed above?

None of those Hilary articles were EVER posted in r/news. Yet all of a sudden, r/news and r/conspiracy happen to share a ton of the same articles... now why is that I wonder?

Ding ding

Wouldn't your problem be with /r/news and not /r/conspiracy then?

I’ve got plenty of problems with r/news, but none that have to do with the topic at hand. They can post or not post whatever they want... just stop crossposting MSM nonsense to this sub. That’s all.

In other words, your rant wasn't about which conspiracy articles do or don't reach /r/news; you just can't handle being exposed to negative stories about Donald here. Iiii see.

Is that a joke? How in the fuck did you get that out of anything I’ve said here?

Do you honestly think people are dumb enough to not see right through your bull shit?

None of those Hilary articles were EVER posted in r/news. Yet all of a sudden, r/news and r/conspiracy happen to share a ton of the same articles... now why is that I wonder?

You could help your case by just saying what you mean here instead of letting folks like me connect your dots for you. If /r/news isn't the topic at hand here, why get all bent out of shape where things get x-posted from? Why does that matter? Unless it's not about that at all; just about what/who the articles are about.

In that case, it’s not about r/news, it’s about the mainstream media. And in that regard, yes, that’s exactly who I have problems with.

Let me ask you; do you truly believe that the MSM is looking out for your best interest, and only serves to inform you about what’s going on in the world?

In that case, it’s not about r/news, it’s about the mainstream media. And in that regard, yes, that’s exactly who I have problems with.

Right, you have problems being exposed to news about Donald, like I said. :)

(You'll note this thread was all about how this kind of stink wasn't raised over Hillary conspiracy articles before you expected anyone to believe your issue was with x-posting.)

Let me ask you; do you truly believe that the MSM is looking out for your best interest

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Like I don't think they have some altruistic personal relationship with me or anything. Why, is that your impression of fringe media...?

and only serves to inform you about what’s going on in the world?

I mean, that's what they make money doing. It's why they're news companies. If you're building up to some "any news I don't like is fake news" thing, you don't need me to get you there.

Did you know the only time the moderators labeled a post as lacking evidence, it was the russia dossier post?

wonder why

Because it lacks evidence

Yeah. That's why there are numerous indictments, more and more stories certifying parts of it are true, etc. Because it has no evidence. /s

If you'd bother to read the indictments you would know they lead to Clinton

Manafort is only one step from Podesta you know

haha cool. good to see you

Now this isn’t even a conspiracy, this is downright lunacy

It's easy, Manafort->Podesta Group->Uranium One->Clinton/Obama

Manafort > trump easy

The uranium one thing is complete bullshit, I used to believe it too, but then I actually did research. if you actually knew the facts you wouldn’t believe it either. But you’ve inundated yourself with propaganda so you likely have no idea what you’re talking about.

Oh man. Hang on to that delusion.

Indictment doesn't mean guilty.

Try to get the dossier published as non fiction. It would be classified as fiction and if they tried to publish it as non fiction they would get sued and put out of business.

Indictment doesn't mean guilty

Plea deals do.

Lol.

Dude, by the nature of this subreddit everything could be tagged "unverified".

Imagine my shock!

Shock would be anyone smart enough to know a group of people were paid multi-million dollars to find negative information about 1 person and his team. That means gossip lies and half truths. If you believe so much in the Dossier - go get it published as non fiction. See how it works out for you.

Do you think the thousands of posts in this subs history all had airtight evidence the first day that they were posted about?

What F does that have to do with the Dossier? It's not like a 1 time post. It was written by a group of people being paid to find dirt. That means all gossip and bullshit that is negative.

Do you think the MSM has air tight evidence?

That isn't the point and you know it, plus when it was first released the MSM was in no way saying they had evidence, they were simply reporting what someone said they found while investigating.

Since then there's been quite a lot confirmed from the dossier

No it hasn't. Half truths does not count as confirmed. Set ups do not count as confirmed.

LOL set ups, you mean how Cohen set up a meeting with Trump and Ukraine after they paid him lots of money?

Ukraine is not Russia. Cohen was not a paid government official and if he got paid to get access to Trump then the walls will come down for all previous president and powerful politicians.

You know the Dossier contained info on other countries besides Russia, right? China was in there quite a bit

unlike pizzagate, unlike giant humans being suppressed by museums, unlike jews being reptiles

When it was regular news about anything validating their point of view, they never had a problem with it. Now there are a bunch of gatekeepers of real news here and it's a very narrow scope of biased reporting.

If you accept mainstream news against Republicans, but downvote anything critical of Hillary, Obama, or the DNC, you are the gatekeeper.

exactly, now that it's coming out that shadow gov/deep state put a spy in trump's campaign and MSM is dying an obvious death, these kinds of posts come out

If you accept mainstream news against Republicans, but downvote anything critical of Hillary

I'll just stop you right there, because if this is the basis that you've placed all your beliefs on, you're wrong. Anthony Weiner? A prominent Democrat leader and future presidential hopeful? The MSM didn't pull their punches on him, nor did Jon Stewart his former roomate. (Is Hannity going to do that? I wouldn't hold my breath.) Hillary's many flaws were covered as well. She had a rough go of it because of her inability to connect with voters and it did look like she had a self-serving agenda. None of that was hidden in the MSM.

I'll say it again: If you promote content that supports one political party, and downvote content that criticizes it, you are a fucking gatekeeper.

I wasn't talking about whether the MSM is objective or not. It's odd that you write that in. I was talking about user behavior and submissions on /r/conspiracy. In part, yours, which you haven't denied.

You're right.

I'll say it again: If you promote content that supports one political party, and downvote content that criticizes it, you are a fucking gatekeeper.

You literally made a gatekeeper statement based on both a false dichotomy and a projection. You can keep doing that tough guy from a movie act where you stiffen your jaw and bold your text all you want. I don't give a shit. You're essentailly putting your fucking fingers in your ears and yelling "lalalalalalalalalala"

I don't post content that supports one political party and down vote content that criticizes it, but I'm also not stupid and it's just unfortunate that reality has a liberal, concrete bias and it just so happens that Republicans are circling the fucking wagons because there are a shit ton of them caught up in this. Michel Cohen is still a financial advisor for the RNC. Please go on with your bullshit, gatekeeper.

You literally made a gatekeeper statement based on both a false dichotomy and a projection.

A statement based off your own words and those of the person you responded to:

"When it was regular news about anything validating their point of view, they never had a problem with it. Now there are a bunch of gatekeepers of real news here and it's a very narrow scope of biased reporting."

You can keep doing that tough guy from a movie act where you stiffen your jaw and bold your text all you want.

All the while you get triggered and emotional when you're held to your own standards.

it's just unfortunate that reality has a liberal, concrete bias

No, YOU have a liberal bias, and you are continually trying to excuse it and get away with the same things you accuse others of doing.

Removed. Rule 6.

Hilary didn’t win because she is a corrupt cunt who is straight up evil.

“We came. We saw. He died.”

Nice apologetics and obfuscation.

Nice apologetics and obfuscation.

Again.... nice fucking projection and whataboutism. Hillary would be far more beholden to staying on the path by her party and the Democrat base than Trump. If she got caught up in any of this shit (and believe me, HALF the base was suspicious of her to say the least, even if she won) the wagons would not circle for her. Bernie would've called her out. Warren would've called her out. She would have no protection for her corruption and Tim Kane would've been president. That's how you slice this bullshit when BOTH candidates are giant pieces of shit. You don't feed the beast by handing the party of embracing and covering up corruption the most malleable little bitch to do their bidding.

None of your words take away from the fact that she is wholly corrupt.

Spin and pirouette all you want.

None of your bullshit tone deaf bullshit validates your ignorance.

Spin a pirouette of cliches all you want, you walking cookie cutter. Have a fucking bit of insight to offer, not just bumper stickers, ballerina.

Removed. Rule 10.

No gatekeeper, no gatekeeper!

When it was regular news about anything validating their point of view, they never had a problem with it.

Who's "they"?

FYI, that guy is as delusional as they come. He’s in the middle of a mental breakdown.

Oh I've been arguing with him all day lol. It honestly looks more like intentional disruption/gaslighting than delusion or mental breakdown.

Interesting post history too. 99% posts in music subs... except for the last month. Nothing but anti-Trump posts/posts that support the MSM narrative.

Removed. Rule 4.

Hey, at least it wasn't identical to the stuff you could find on /r/all or /r/politics.

Funny how this was made into a political issue

You either have a shit memory or you weren't here. There literally was ZERO regular news about Hillary. The entire election cycle was Trump Trump Trump.

The only thing people were posting here was the slab of beef, the corneas from haiti, bill clintons a rapist, etc... not stuff you see in the news lol.

You fucking shill faggot. GO ON ADMINS BAN ME YOU FUCKIGN FAGGOTS FOR CALLING HIM A FAGGOT AND YOU GUYS ARE FAGGOTS TOO LOL. BIGOTED MY ASS FAGGOTS GO SUCK DICKS.

>no homophobe, I love the gays, but everyone here are a bunch of fucking faggot dick suckers.

Funny how you automatically assume and break it down on party lines.

Partisan hack.

How should I have broken it down then? Try not to throw insults in your response as it makes you look weak.

No, there are many different ways to approach the topic. Acting like yours was the only way is absolutely disingenuous.

Can we get a sticky from the unbiased mods on this, like the QAnon post that was at the top for days?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/05/23/why-mueller-interested-psy-group/

Also, FYI George Nader is a convicted serial pedophile.

r/conspiracy was invaded by useful idiots after the election. These morons actually believe Trump collided with Russia to hack the election.

TL;DR: Trump Derangement Syndrome

Yeah, they're morons for believing actual evidence and shit the doofus has actually admitted to. Nevermind that he shows all the hallmarks of a compulsive liar when he talks about collusion.

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

Here is some real news for you. Brace yourself.

https://youtu.be/XR97EgcihlU

Spare me your gaslighting projection bullshit.

You prefer CNN and MSNBC’s gaslighting.

Watch the video, stop being a useful idiot. You’re embarrassing to the human race.

CNN and MSNBC are accountable and can be sued. I'm gong to trust them, as well as the AP, Reuters, The Wall Street Journal (owned by Murdoch), and COUNTLESS other news sources that corroborate and independently cover and investigate the news as opposed to the shit you post.

LOL WOW, you’re fucking hopeless.

Thanks for the vindication.

WOW, MAGICAL GOALPOSTS!

Thanks for the vindication magical goalposts!

You’re having a mental breakdown. Seek help, quickly.

Keep gaslighting, troll. I'm blocking you. That's what's best for my mental health. Not paying attention to asshats that clearly make their own goalposts and only trust those who tell them what they want to hear. Keep it up you loathesome waste of space.

Yes, echo chamber only.

Are you posting with an alt?

I'm not going to argue with a brick wall that keeps twisting words and truth and lying until I'm willing to accept a random YouTube video over what I can see coming from The Fuckface with my own two eyes on Twitter. Anyone supporting this asshat at this point is mental and literally every response I've seen is a magical goalpost based in projection and not reality.

What the fuck are you on about? You can’t even follow a simple thread.

Slow down, start by watching this video: https://youtu.be/XR97EgcihlU

I know this is hard for you to believe, but Trump did not collude with Russia, Hillary and the DNC did.

CNN is lying to you about pretty much everything.

What the fuck are you on about? You can’t even follow a simple thread.

Go gaslight someone who gives a shit. Blocked. I'm not watching your stupid fucking video.

How dare you not believe his co-conspirators would issue a false flag operation to lie to the American public?

Oh noes, don’t block me!

What evidence?

"There doesn't seem to be anything here."

Are you really ignoring the amount of indictments made to people around the campaign and the general shitshow how the POTUS on multiple occasions claimed he nor his campaign ever met with Russian officials at all which has been proven demonstrably false? Heck his fucking son set up a meeting for help with a Russian spy iirc. Not only that but high ranking officials in his campaign were the ones indicted not just low level workers. His former campaign manager is in deep shit and the current Senior advisor of the POTUS and Erik Fucking Prince were trying to set up a back channel to Russia. Not to mention the recently revealed meetings with Saudis for monetary support and propaganda support. Are you seriously saying none of that matters? That none of that is suspicious at all? Especially after the POTUS administration repeatedly lied and tried to hide those things?

Nope. You're preaching to the choir.

Aren't there like twenty indictments and tons of meetings with Russians they keep lying about until they have to turn around and say they actually had them?

Must be nothing I guess

I try not to follow it too closely. We'll just have to wait and see.

I mean, there's literally an email to Jr., released by Jr., that says 'Hey the Russian government wants to send over a Russian government lawyer to meet with you who will provide dirt on Hillary Clinton. This is part of the Russian government's effort to help Trump.' At this point the campaign already knew Russia had been reaching out to offer dirt in the form of thousands of stolen emails damaging to Clinton.

And then Jr. agrees to the meeting, and then the meeting happens, and then DCLeaks and Wikileaks start releasing emails.

What happens when the conspiracy becomes regular news? For example, JFK papers show that LHO was in fact employed by the CIA, that GHW Bush was in Dallas, and Kennedy was shot from the front. Not even a conspiracy anymore, it's regular news.

Exactly. I think some people just don't want masses seeing some of this news..ive been seeing an agenda being pushed here to try and undermine this sub lately, they especially seem to hate news stories about Israel too. Go figure

But... the masses already see this news. It's from mainstream sources.

I preferred the days when /r/conspiracy parroted whatever MSM talking points were scheduled for the day.

this^

Not even a conspiracy anymore

Theory*

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/politics/donald-trump-spygate/index.html

No, because it tends to get censored in the major news subs like the sub you describe.

You don't like the news posts from people who post on r/politics religiously?

Are you taking about Reddit's neutral politics sub? r/politics is a joke. It is half Super PACs, 48% fully brainwashed people and 2% people just staring in amazement.

Shills got sent outside of r/news, r/worldnews and r/politics because the shilling was so obvious. The reputation of those subs is completely destroyed. The only thing left to do is send shills elsewhere and ban subs that can compete.

I'm sick of the politics in this sub too. if there was only a place where people could freely exchange ideas without worrying about view manipulation or censorship that would be great. I'm lookin at u G-man! :o

I took a break from r/conspiracy for a few weeks to clear my head. Came back to r/news.

Regardless of the political leaning, I don't come to this sub for MSM news articles.

I’m more worried that people are very receptive to these breaking conspiracy stories on regular news subreddits, but here we’re complaining. Real conspiracies being exposed in the mainstream news is a big deal and we should be reveling in this moment.

Bingo.

I have been an obsessive Conspiracy Theorist since decades ago when watching reruns of Leonard Nimoy's "In Search Of" blew the doors of reality off my young teenage mind, and I hsve never before seen the floodgates of Conspiracy open like it is today.

It used to be you'd have to dial-up and sift through obscure boards like alt.conspiracy, which were the only "hot sheets" of the era, and even then you had to do a lot of solo research following up leads and piecing together connections, the best of which only hinted that The Official Narrative wasn't The Truth at all.

Now you just look at the front page of the Fake News Grey Lady or BezPo and you are assaulted with dozens of conspiracies in plain sight disguised as ordinary "news."

We are in a target rich environment now, where nothing is true and everything is permissable, if enough people repeat the lie.

What does it mean that the Overton Window has shifted, smashed, busted off its hinges, and is flapping in the wind, about to fall off at any moment?

I personally believe its the Zeitgeist telling us The End is Nigh, TSHTF any day now, the NWO OWG is on the verge of implosion, the Great Awakening is upon us, and total systemic collapse is imminent.

And I'm loving every day of the frothing chaos. Why would I want to go back to the boring way things used to be?

We could talk about all the predictive programming and soft disclousures (all of the aforementioned news articles) that get rubbed in our faces on the daily and yet we continue to let it happen.

This forum is dedicated to discussing conspiracies, regardless of where they surface. "Regular news" has documented plenty of information relevant to conspiracy theorists in the past: the Washington Post covered the Snowden revelations, NPR documented how the sugar industry paid scientists to blame fat for heart disease and obesity, and Chris Hayes recently did a segment on his MSNBC program, accurately documenting Israeli atrocities against Palestinians, which other MSM outlets either downplayed or ignored.

We should embrace this, so long as we apply intellectual vigor to these sources and verify what they're reporting. For many "normies," a "reliable" (aka mainstream) news source is still required before they believe the information they're presented with. When we see actual good journalism that documents insidious conspiracies, we absolutely should share it here, even if it's from the "MSM." It presents us with good discussion material, and it also gives us terrific evidence that we can marshal in discussion with those who doubt that conspiracies can exist.

The level of corruption and criminality in our government, out in the open, has become so normalized, that even the conspiracy minded people are getting fatigue. We are fucked as a country.

A lot of bad actors and the fact stratfor is on here.

Try posting some anti-Jew bullshit. Post will go straight to the top.

where else can you discuss todays news with members of t_d without getting banned for not getting your fellow patriot a coat ?

i like govt corruption conspiracies, which i think is the subject of most of the threads this thread is upset about.

You can try r/Conspiracyzone if you don’t like the vibe here.

because its no longer a conspiracy.

This is how they do it.. fill this forum and ones like it with shit.

This post is stupid

But but Drumpf :(

I miss the days when I could scroll and read stuff about cryptozoology or audio from coast to coast

When our government stops conspiring to defraud America we'll stop posting stories about it

For what it's worth I agree with you that r/conspiracy is mostly full of political he said/she said crap. Whether for reals or fun I miss the crazy conspiracy posts. Just like with many things, as the user base expands the quality is reduced.

Definitely not, I am a Bernie supporter

Make everything a Damn conspiracy and everything will be doubted.

Exactly this. Also everything will be doubted when you pretend to be the gatekeeper to the only real news.

Yeah, they're morons for believing actual evidence and shit the doofus has actually admitted to. Nevermind that he shows all the hallmarks of a compulsive liar when he talks about collusion.

Because it lacks evidence

Me? I actually started a reddit account to comment on r/conspiracy a few years ago. Was a lurker for a loooooooooong time lol.

I don't care. I'm not arguing the legitimacy of Q, I'm saying that would you just said is grade A bull shit.

7 years

You?

Will do! Thanks (Man/Person/They/Lady/Them/) :)

i dunno how tin foil it is if republicans felt the need to appoint a special prosecutor, and feel the need to tell the president 'hey dont fire the guy investigating'

You can do that, but you can also find exactly the same on /r/news or /r/politics. Or hell, go to any mainstream news website, or turn on your television

If news like that comes to dominate the frontpage on /r/conspiracy, then it will drown out the minority (or suppressed) viewpoints that give this sub a reason to exist.

I bet you don't understand how your post above this one undermines your argument.

UTTER BULLSHIT. I've seen countless mainstream media links on this sub long before now. I'm not going to give a fuck about someone railing like a broken clock on the mainstream media without having even a modicum of objectivity. UTTER BULLSHIT.

You just made my point for me.

Hillary is no longer relevant either

It's all an act.

PLC likes to pretend he has groundbreaking, earthshaking pants, splitting information that would tear this sub apart - BUT the mods would ban him if he revealed it, oh well guess you'll never know.

1"I have the information"

2"What is the information?"

1"Can't say, sorry. But know that I have it".

Also, FYI George Nader is a convicted serial pedophile.