It's definitely one of them - but it goes even deeper than you think. Read the pdf of this book and see just how deep the rabbit hole really goes.

I don't think that aliens themselves have a relationship to the birth of humans but if you think about maybe the time of Adam and Eve actually happened but not in our world but in another one, it never said that all that happen in a lot of religious text said that happen exactly in our earth but in one earth

The person/people(s) who wrote the Bible EVIDENTLY either had unique and rare interest in extraterrestrials and extraterrestrial spacecraft OR they had an encounter with one, which is presumably more likely than the first option.

I don’t doubt that something like that might very well have been the case.

The Bible is LOADED with descriptions of contact with extraterrestrials...

The “three wise men” and that bright ass “star of Bethlehem” were likely more than many of us are taught to believe.

all the way back to Eve claiming that grey humans impregnated her and took the child To Abraham being abducted and going past other planets and the bible says that he visibly saw and passed other planets in our solar system and he stated that he just wanted to "Return back to Earth."

What do you think about it?

I’m not familiar with those specific details, but I don’t doubt them.

I do think there is for sure extraterrestrial involvement in the birth of Christianity.

That much I really don’t doubt - as well as the birth and/or influencing of all other major religions on this planet.

and not to seem like a nerd

You don’t sound like any more of a nerd than I do.

but I believe they also had to do with the creation of humans themselves.

I'd say it seems to me they both go hand in hand. It appears that certain ETs created a slave (humans) and they needed a means by which to keep that slave obedient - hence the creation of world religions as an effective, ubiquitous tool of indoctrination for this slave. Sounds insane on the surface, but if one digs into the evidence, one begins to understand that this is where much of it is at least strongly pointing.

The amount of time that we would have taken to evolve from Homo-Erectus to Human should have been MILLIONS of years longer than evidence shows it did take, suggesting possible interference/modifications from extraterrestrials.

Absolutely. The missing link between humans and our closest relative (the common and bonobo variants of the chimpanzee) is in all likelihood an ET hand manipulating chimpanzee genetics with their own genetics to create humans.

To be sure, however, humans cary many mutations and alterations in our genome that have been shown to have been all but impossible to have formed through natural evolution - i.e. it appears we were genetically tinkered with. A lot. It seems we’ve either been genetically tinkered and tampered with many times by one particular ET species, or many times by many different ET species throughout the millennia.

I’m betting on the latter.

Lloyd Pye has quite a lot of interesting things to say about our genome and what it all appears to mean.

I notice you have posted the link to the book about aliens written in the 50's multiple times on this sub, in response to multiple subjects that have a thread in the conspiracy forum. I conclude you firmly believe aliens are the answer, amirite?

you have posted the link to the book about aliens written in the 50's multiple times

A book in the 50s? What book is that? I don’t know what you’re talking about, honestly. If you’re referring to Bramley’s book, then it has nothing to do with “the 50’s”. It was published in 1989.

I conclude you firmly believe aliens are the answer, amirite?

The answer to what?

You’re really going to have to be more specific about what you ask.

My apologies. A site I looked the book up on claimed it was written in the fifties. After reading your response I looked it up again and see the first edition was released 1/1/89,and that someone claiming to be sunlight publishing has been selling unauthorized editions of said book. To respond to your second point, specifically, I have read a few posts by yourself on the conspiracy forum, specifically mentioning "going down the rabbit hole" followed by a link to this particular book. This is why I feel confident in saying your answer to more than one issue on the conspiracy sub is aliens, as anyone inclined to check your posting history on this sub can see.

your answer to more than one issue on the conspiracy sub is aliens, as anyone inclined to check your posting history on this sub can see.

I'm not understanding the purpose or point of your responses. Are they just...observations?

The problem isn't so much Christianity in and of itself... It's the Preisthood. They act as the intermediary between their "flock" and God.

But I wonder, if they were lifetime believers of Christianity, and had no knowledge of the corruption, were/are they pathological liars? They convince themselves that they are speaking with God? Or is it possibly placebo?

It probably depends on the Priest or Pastor. It's pretty clear that many of them understand exactly what they are doing, as in performing a type of spiritual vampyrism.

The black priest of the 3rd kingdom. Said to have been given knowledge by the 4th and 5th kingdoms to evolve into them. This knowledge was found to have power by the black priest. So they hid it from the masses. Never to evolve themselves, just to hold power over the 3rd kingdom. Per MPH.

MPH?

Manly P Hall.

I think you are dealing with Catholicism for much of the problems you brought up. Spanish Inquisition, a belief in a eternal hell, which if you study the Bible you will realize that there is no such thing as eternal hell. It was made by the catholics. Jesuits and their workings to undermine protestant Christianity.

Regardless, the book itself doesn’t teach about a hell or going to heaven for that matter. Most interpretations and traditions people follow now and more notably what probably influences your post, are traditions that were commonly found in pagan religions. Religions the Bible specifically warned against but as time went by, as humans do, they distort what originally was supposed to be. The Bible literally talks about that aspect of “false prophets”

The Bible’s an amazing book and I don’t believe in organized religion at all.

I disagree a bit as leaving religion or belief in it an open book. The paradox we all share is that there exist a truth but to completely figure that truth out the concept of faith is required. Faith being based on our interpretations of the only evidence we have available to us at our prospective eras(perceptual existence). Over time, religion became versions of what people did with the information available to them to explain this thing called life, naturally creating preference and conflict following.

With that said, as casually as it is, the semantics behind people being entitled “to believe as they please” has a lot to do with the aptitude in how we applaud respect toward one another’s freedom to think. What we forget is that despite differences in belief, we all mutually benefit from trying to figure out really what the truth is,collectively. Clearly, easier said then done especially when the dialogue should be so in-depth that the general questioning of another’s belief is highly encouraged as being the tool to tread the subject rather then dogmatic allegiance to something that logically can’t be proven but intensely speculated on.

It’s my belief, that it’s everyone’s collective responsibility to the world to first assess one’s own religion under absolute confidence that there is actually one answer and most likely what they believe specific to them has a high probability of actually being wrong. Once that’s understood, figuring out patterns and tying observations to what seems true as far as ancient text on psychology and overall philosophy, resembles accurate even in life scenarios today. They say language began and evolved from one place so religion is likely right along that same timeline. Working together, I think humanity would eventually crack through the distortion of beliefs passed along in time but it seems spiritually,we will never get there as a whole unless something so fucked up happens that makes “Unity” more a tool of survival. It makes the entire “end of the world” scenario one of the most interesting stories left to be witnessed.

I’m High so that doesn’t make sense, I blame weed.

This is news to me, so excuse my naivety, but Protestant Christianity does not believe in an eternal hell?

If I remember correctly there's suppose to be a hell but Jesus Christ or Michael the Archangel is supposed to go down there and liberated the soul trap in there to go to heaven or get another chance.

So there's is a hell but is not eternal, I may be wrong though

https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4988/t/is-the-devil-in-charge-of-hell-

Satanism dominates the religion. The bastardization of truth is so effective.

Rather, the fear of Satan himself created the bastardization of the truth... very effective!

I disagree. People are tempted. It is not fear, but rather the intoxication of dominance that drives them.

I appreciate your response, most would write me off when I disagree with them. I would empathize that even the illusion of dominance can fuel this beast.

Clearly you dont know church folk. Theyre very simple and dont believe Jesus LITERALLY wrote the bible, they are just saying he is responsible for the bible--theyre his words and he caused the bible. Thats what simple, humble folk are like. They dont have to set things up perfectly because of grammar nazis on the internet.

The only thing I can glean from you is youre young and probably very lost in life. Ive been there. You think you know a lot, but really you know nothing beyond human concepts. The bible has a lot of absolute--*absolute truth i.e. truth from god. Lets even say god isnt real, the bible is a massive asset for understanding yourself and humanity. Lets say god is real, sadly it is, that means its a massive boon for anyone wanting to improve their life.

Hell is a real thing. Ive experienced parts of it--it is a depth of the soul so far from God. It is easy to say, well hell clearly isnt real. Its like when youre 7 and you think the world isnt that bad, until you accidentally wonder onto motherless and see some babyrape shit. I can tell you hell is a, technically, real thing that people create for themselves.

I think youre probably relatively young and maybe dont know a lot, or not as much as you think you do. Religion held power, for some good reasons (people dont just believe in the bible because muh hell, go on the street and ask them what their real reasoning for it is--a lot of the times it is fear of hell, and a lot of cases it isnt, its not that black and white) such as the truth in the bible of gods love which can be felt and experienced, gods creation, the good things etc, but also from fear from factions.

But trying to act like its one uniform group when factions, versions and differing nation states of christianity have been competing with each other throughout life is absurd. Christianity has control not because christianity sought control, Christianity has control because God sits at the top of most peoples priorities and Christianity has some good answers to that. Its like thinking there is a conspiracy by supermarkets to make money because they use food--not the fact that people need food, like people need and especially want spiritual guidance and knowledge, and deep down to learn about the world.

tbf I used to be young and think like you, then I actually went out of my way to understand it more than just criticize it. Youll find the answers if you look in the write place.

God speed.

In a way yes in other no.

There's a lot of things in the bible that was modified like the mind-control Pharaoh, the number of the beast, the reasons behind some of YHVH actions.

But a lot of things not only continue the same but even other's religious text's have similar believe, Hell, the 7 sins, angels, god, temptation and Satan.

So there's surely things modified in the bible but there's a lot that not only can fit well with a lot of believes, it also make sense.

Also there's the "non-canon" text both in Judaism and Christianity, some even taking from older text that's the one present that are retired from some reason that you probably know, like the reason of the flood, you will not go to hell just for not believe in Jesus and Satan corruption in religious secret places.

But all in all, i honestly think that the bible is really interesting and as a lot of good lessons and teachings, and Christianity is not really a bad thing, I know a lot of people that are Christian and are good persons

I agree with this completely. I don’t think Christianity needs to be abolished because the teachings are good. Jesus is a fantastic role model to kids, think about it. We need more of that.

I don't think that that's is a problem with Christianity but the priesthood, all of these methods came directly for they interpretations of the bible and how things should work, kinda like how a criminal finds loopholes in the law to go free.

The thing is that the church in the middle ages never let any kind of other interpretations to the public just themselves, which made a box in people mind of how things is.

One example is "You shall have no God before me" that could be put as you shouldn't have any gods other than me or you shouldn't have any god higher than me, the priests just decide to use what they thought that are the best for the use, also is important to notice Jesus Christ actually saw people that use religion to get what they want and trashed they temple's

Or is religion seen as a threat because it brings people together?

I mean the community and shared belief fostered by religion.

It brings people together yes... based on ignorance. Which is exactly the type of stuff that makes manipulation of masses WAY too easy - reason why we still see people against abortion, stem cells studies and weed.

The New Testament is a Roman concoction. Jesus is actually Lucifer, he even admits it.

Where?

The last page of Revelation. Jesus admits that he is the eternal morning star. But you can still worship Lucifer. YHWH made other gods for every race of people. If Jesus is your god you should keep worshiping him. The God of Israel doesn’t care who gentiles worship. As long as his people only worship him, he put us into slavery for idolatry. God is not love love love like your Jesus. He is fucking terrible and his wrath is absolute. Western society has made God into some kind of hippie pussy. When Moses wrote that God is a man of war.

Lucifer, Satan and the devil were not the same thing until century later.

Lucifer used to refer for Jupiter, Morning Star to Jesus, Satan to the fallen angel, the devil to the incarnation of evil that was not created by YHVH.

You’re wrong gentile. Satan is God’s son, his job is to punish God’s Levite priest for disobeying the law. Jesus who is really Tammuz or Lucifer claims he will defeat Satan, the devil, the one who does all evil in the world. Except...The Most High God of Israel does all good and evil in the world just as it says in the book of Isiah. Lucifer has deceived all you gentile, and you do stupid things like give Gods glory to Satan or the devil. Just like Job said if you only accept good from God and not evil then you are not he chosen. Gentiles don’t have a soul. Only the original line of Adam and Eve has the breath of life and they ate freely from the tree of life. Your people didn’t. So there is no afterlife. No Hell. You never going to heaven so i suggest you make the best out of the life you have now. Because that is all God is going to give you. He doesn’t hear you prayers, you’re not a Levite. Stop letting mankind fool.

This line of thinking is exactly the how and why the Jews have morally corrupted our Protestant Christ Jesus loving America. Jesus is the Christ, the son of The Living God. The Jews were foresaken for abandoning him. I'm talking about the Davidic Jews not the imposters that own the media. Get on the bus Christ hater or get left behind.

Jews are not Hebrews. Hebrews have never been and never will be white. Christ is for you gentile. I am a Levite. The only way you can get anything from God is though us. Lucifer has you all fooled into thinking you all are priest. God will kill you if you even said his real name. Only priest, prophets, and kings can pray to God and offer sacrifice for forgiveness of sin. But the priesthood is in captivity for 400 years. So no sin can be forgiven until the end of the captivity. 1619-2019.

Jesus will never be my God. He is the demigod of the gentiles. Keep serving him. Maybe he will actually save you on the great and terrible day of the Lord. But i doubt it.

Satan in Judaism is the servant of God, in Christianity is the Fallen Angel and in Gnosticism is the first son of God.

Lucifer (fallen angel) don't exist in Judaism, also there's a lot of people that claim and had memories of reincarnations, so even if you're right and there's no afterlife from a non-Jew there's a big chance of reincarnation

You’re right about Satan. Lucifer is only mentioned in the KJV version in Isiah. The Romans hid his identity because Lucifer represents sun worship. Some people are reincarnated. And even if you are not Hebrew, God told Moses that he can save whoever he wants. Gentiles have it so easy. No dietary law, no praying. All gentiles have to do to get their blessing is to bless the Levite Priest. But the priesthood has been destroyed by God because we are being punished. God has cursed us. God has fucked me up in the most vicious ways and I still praise him for punishing me. Soon the world will be put back in order. The slave masters will be punished for everything they did to us. Because a lot of gentiles has taken our curses too.

Why God have cursed you ?

What God will do ?

If I remember correctly the end of days will bring the messianic age, is this a bad thing ?

For what I know he will create a new messiah for the house of David, will resurrect the dead and will create a new heaven and earth, there's more to happen ?

It sounds like a lot of New Testament doctrine.

Well my ancestors were priest and led Israel into idolatry and other abominations. God warned Abraham and Moses that their people will once again be taken back into Egypt which really means the house of bondage for 400 years by ship. (Deuteronomy 28) You can look at the US dollar and all the obelisks to understand America is Egypt. There are many curses like God will take stool and put it in our mouth. Everything we eat in this country has pork and is fertilized with shit. Our women are cursed with abnormal body shapes and their hair will be short and nappy. We are cursed to be killed in the streets but will find no justice in the courts. We will have no wealth and power. We are given unto our enemies. Understand that not all black people in America are hebrew. In fact God has stated that we are numbered in the thousands not millions. But since no one knows who is Hebrew anyone with dark skin is universally hated. God delights in punishing us. I never understood why I had such bad luck. Even I am successful something comes out of nowhere and brings me down to naught. God gave me multiple cancers, i’ve had multiple amputations and surgeries. And it was because i use to be in idolatry. I use to give Jesus all of God’s glory. God is not who the Romans tried to make us believe. He is terrible and merciful.

God is going to send Elijah down here to show the gentiles who the Lord is. We are going to be rescued from our captivity and brought back to Israel. The government even has a bill that went into law to commentate the 400 years of captivity in 2019, they are going to give us gold and release us just like the first time we left Egypt. The end of the captivity is good for the world. Soon if you want to have your sin forgiven you can provide a Levite with a animal sacrifice. If you want to get your blessing a Levite will be able to pray to God on your behalf. God only hears his priest, prophets, and kings. Not even other Hebrews can pray directly to God. There will be no more lies. No more of a small group of nephiliana controlling your life. You don’t have to worship God. If you are a gentile it’s a choice. If you are a Hebrew and worship other gods you will be put to death. There will be no more religion because it’s a waste of time. And you don’t have to do anything. No fighting. No protesting or marching. God is going to do everything. Our slavemasters know this. They are getting ready to hide underground in their hidden cities. And God is going to pull them out like worms. God is going to also show the world what he did to his priest. And people will marvel in fear. This world is evil. Science is magic and their are constantly casting spells and curses on us by the things we watch, read, and eat. God is an extraterrestrial. The world tries to hide the existence of God because he makes them. All the atrocities like school shooting, war, natural disasters are judgements that God is carrying out on the world. His face is turned from us right now. That is why you can turn on the TV and see Hebrews shot on the streets and our place in society is at the tail of a dog. God is terrible.

I'm sorry about what happen to you but I do still have some questions.

Is there a way to against god influence ?

There at least a way to convince god to not kill the Hebrew who worship others God's ? And to lift the curse ?

How many years do you think that we have until that happen ?

How can I recognize a Levite and the new messiah from the house of David ?

It has been fused with Judaism like Catholicism and Islam, of course it's corrupt.

Have you been watching "The Davinci Code" ?

It shows a conspiracy about christianity very similar to yours and even uses the same phrases you're using🤔

The davinci code

You should

The light came on for me when a buddy asked me why they asked for burnt offerings to the church. It was because the priests liked bar-b-que. The other thing was if priests really believed in a god, would they be raping little boys?

I think the priests in the Vatican and all the lower level priests are protected and they’re not really believers in God, I believe these priests are luciferians

r/aetheism

Same thing. You should take the discussion there

I think many would disagree that they're the same thing http://www.dictionary.com/e/atheism-agnosticism/

He was an Christian Agnostic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_agnosticism

That an attribute of belief, not the belief itself.

It would probably be helpful in your quest to condemn Catholic history if you were to begin by...studying Catholic history. Have you done so?

"Back then, anyone who questioned the integrity of the church or questioned Christianity itself would/could be tortured in horrific ways, scolded by other members of the public, they would suffer the lose all of their lands and often times even the accused's family would be harmed."

'Back then' Christians were persecuted and hunted. Not until Emperor Constantine were they even allowed to practice their religion. After he converted the social mores of the Empire may have remained largely the same even though the populace was converting. Should it strike you as strange that an Empire built on conquest would continue to employ its various control tactics? That would have remained so regardless of which (or any) religion the Emperor adopted.

Also, where is your source on the church having destroyed all primary documents?

I'm not sure why you single out Christianity, most (all?) monotheistic religions are nothing other than elaborate control mechanisms.

In the Middle Ages the Catholic Church ran the biggest scam in history.

The church sold indulgences, which basically meant you paid them money and god would forgive your sins. This translated into the more money you give the church, the better your chance of going to heaven. This was a big deal back then because heaven and hell weren’t theoretical, it was absolute fact. Because everyone wants to get into heaven pretty much everyone, rich and poor, gave the church money. As a result, the church and clergy became infinitely rich.

If you know anything about the bible, this is pretty much anathema to everything Jesus taught. But they got away with it because the controlled information: the bible could only be written in Latin. Who could read Latin? The clergy. Who couldn’t read Latin? Everyone else.

Every so often a member of the clergy with morals would speak out against the church and their greed. They were branded heretics and killed. That changed with the invention of the printing press. When Martin Luther called the church out, the printing press allowed the bible to be cheaply and quickly printed into local languages. When people could read about Jesus themselves they realised it was a scam, and turned away from the church: Protestantism was born.

Tl;dr the Catholic Church ran the biggest, most successful scam in history.

All religion is... as is media, societal pressure, just being around other humans is social conditioning lol

Our religions were written by someone long ago, people started following them, same as a cult, then groups splintered off, started their own version of it, then people split from them, starting their own version, so on and so on. We are where we are now. People need this to be real so they have something to believe in outside of their lives. I think it is a good and bad thing. I think it keeps people somewhat grounded in this life but it doesn't help as much as we need, right now. People aren't doing good for this life, they are doing good for the afterlife. If people lived for the now, instead of the future, I think our lives and planet would be completely different. I'm talking about Christianity and Islam since those are the 2 biggest and most similar. Like how Islam terrorists use their version of the Koran as justification for killing people. They use violence to make their afterlife better. Christians do the same things, not blowing themselves up the regular, but they don't really do good deeds to help mankind/humanity, they do it for selfish reasons, like getting into heaven.

The Roman Catholic Church is in no way shape or form Christian. They are Luciferian. Their entire point is to deceive people who are indoctrinated into their false works based system of salvation and to straw man Christianity to those on the outside. The truth is found by reading the King James Bible for oneself and not following any man.

Repent and believe the gospel to be saved:

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 

1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 

1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 

1Co 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 

Your entire premise is predicated on a very provable falsehood. Try to do real research next time not just an encyclopedia of confirmation bias.

The Bible has not been altered.

There exists more early transcripts (dating to before the formation of the Catholic Church) than for any other ancient text. And the translations match nearly identically.

Since you like this topic so much, I dare you to read the following for 20-30 mins.

http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Integ/B-0801.htm

it’s been watered down and altered, you have to find God yourself, religion is -just like you said - a form of manipulation, and to give false hopes to people, although some people better themselves off of it . At the end of the day, you have to let God come to you and do all you can to be a good person.

I can't wait for the Antichrist to come and destroy this (and all other) religion.

i believe the bible but the church is a corpse, dude. a church is a congregation of believers so guess what? when im congregated with my brothers in Christ, IM IN CHURCH. most “churches” nowadays are rent seeking operations collecting fiat currency. gone are the churches at lexington green and concord where freedom and liberty were championed. gone are the churches of free men resisting and fighting oppressive tyranny and the papacy. everyone is a slave. i would never advise someone to go to one of these ba’al temples called churches..

When I was first awaken I had dreams of spaceships, giants, dragons just wrecking the world. I use to pray until i cried blood for God to spare gentiles that I considered innocent. God responded by breaking my neck. It just stopped hurting recently. There is nothing we can do to stay Gods hand. That was so hard for me to accept. We are just worms to him.

God enjoys killing as much as he does saving. He said so in the OT. The only thing i could do is try to follow all his commandments to the best of my ability. Like I stop eating forbidden food like pork, shrimp, lobster, etc... but the FDA allows pork into nearly everything we consume even Jello. I observe the sabbath from Friday sundown until Saturday sundown but if my work makes me come in, i have no choice. You just have to try your best to not do evil in the eyes of the Lord. But what is evil is consider good in this world. Like Jesus teaching to not chastise your brother if he doesn’t eat meat. Which by today’s standards sounds good and right. However God commanded his priest to keep the passover and eat the lamb every year. Even though something sounds good in the eyes of God it is not. I was hesitate about things like sacrificing animals until i understood why that is required. And it could change your perspective of God if you knew why the smell of burning animal fat is pleasing to him. Don’t trust in anything from man. Not his religion. His philosophy. Even his science. The first slave ship came in 1619 and it was called the Good Ship Jesus. I don’t know the date but everything God does is exact so I believe full disclosure next year. And when people realize that God has been ruling this world, it will change so many things about the way we perceive life. God is high technology. The things we marvel at like the newest iphone or A.I. is nothing compared to what the watchers have. Watchers are cloaked and are always around us. Sometimes you may glimpse them if certain atmospheric conditions are met or you are spiritually powerful. We call them ghost, aliens, vampires, demons, etc...

The title should be Catholicism, not christianity. They are not one in the same.

Religions*

you have posted the link to the book about aliens written in the 50's multiple times

A book in the 50s? What book is that? I don’t know what you’re talking about, honestly. If you’re referring to Bramley’s book, then it has nothing to do with “the 50’s”. It was published in 1989.

I conclude you firmly believe aliens are the answer, amirite?

The answer to what?

You’re really going to have to be more specific about what you ask.