You can talk about it here. You can also disagree. This is the price of freedom.

I don’t see any other conspiracy theories on here being disagreed with so strongly though!

Really? More people post about how stupid "flat earth" is than people actually posting in support of the theory.

It seems to me that pedophilic networks survive via red herrings. Create a witch hunt and then demonize the hunters as ignorant.

Ever heard of the Franklin cover-up?

That's a hoax too.

Lol. Ohh

Franklin cover-up was a hoax? oh do go on. please.

Lurid reports of child sex abuse, drug trafficking, pornography and political intrigue that have held Omaha enthralled for nearly two years were a ''carefully crafted hoax,'' a county grand jury in Nebraska has concluded.

The report this week said the hoax, involving allegations against some of Omaha's more prominent citizens, was ''scripted by a person or persons with considerable knowledge of the people and institutions of Omaha.''

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/29/us/omaha-grand-jury-sees-hoax-in-lurid-tales.html

"However, On Feb. 27, 1999 ( TEN YEARS AFTER THE FACTS ) U.S. District Court Judge Warren Urbom found former Franklin S&L manager Lawrence E. King guilty of numerous crimes committed against mind control victim Paul A. Bonacci.

King, serving a 15-year sentence for his role in the theft of $40 million from Franklin, an Omaha, Neb., credit union, was ordered by Judge Urbom to pay Bonacci $800,000 in compensatory damages and an additional $200,000 in punitive damages."

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080427060431AARMdip&guccounter=1

your move. just a question though. you think it was just a coincidence bonnaci has multiple personailities?

I've yet to see an "unverified allegations" tag on any pizzagate post.

It's a conspiracy forum. You do not need one. All conspiracies should be welcomed whether you disagree or not.

Most posts aren't tagged. Try harder matey

Because it's bullshit built upon mountains of bullshit that led to a gun man attacking a pizza place to "investigate" for himself. Don't be a drone and follow 4chan like it's fucking next level investigation shit and don't listen to what certain talking heads say like this guy did. Hate and misinformation being spewed by the few can have serious consequences. There is absolutely zero evidence for pizza gate except for "code words" being deciphered from the 4chan larp brigade.

"Don't be a drone" all the cameras of the shooting mysteriously turned off before it and the man who "shot" had family FBI and got a very short sentence. Look it up.

Is there anything substantial about a hard drive specifically being shot? I see it referenced a lot but rarely backed up.

The hard drive wasn't shot.

The pc tower was shot and the picture shows the hole through the cddrive area on top.

Also staging a false flag shooting with associated court case doesn't seem like the most discrete way to dispose of a hard drive that the owners of comet ping pong could have removed quietly at any time.

The camera was turned because 4chan located it and were hammering the live stream. The whole area was affected by the hoax. A neighbouring pizza place had to change their logo for example (besta pizza).

There’s many connections from the Clinton foundation to charities in the UK etc!

This is why many scoff at pizzagate. Most people consider charities having connections with other charities normal. This actually discredits the conspiracy in thier eyes.

Than simply provide proof one of the charities involves nefarious people. You can't simply say the Clinton Foundation is nefarious because it associates with charities like the nefarious Clinton Foundation.

Instead of over reachikng statements put some meat out there. Cause so far you've been flaccid.

That's why you pick the best and most rock solid evidence. If you claim a conspiracy you should be able to show why. Conspiracy theorists should be skeptical of everything. They should welcome attempts to provide alternate theories. It helps flesh out yours and provides insight.

If a theory ends up not standing up to scrutiny it might mean it should be chucked rather than dug in.

You're asking for a grain of truth but I can tell you from the bottom of the ocean that organized crime and trafficking is far more prevalent through front charities and organizations than some users here would like to admit or accept.

That's all well and good. I'm just asking for the most credible pebble you have supporting your statements. That let's us discuss instead of general statements without any weight from supporting crumbs.

You are absolutely right. ‘PIE’ was formed in 1974 ... that’s like five seconds ago. Through these magazines and newspapers, pedophiles were able to link up without internet ... get together.. have meeting.. plot and plan to infiltrate everything from schools to orphanages to human rights activist. We see it play out now. It was by no mistake.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378

They also didn't have the deep web and darknet as they do know.

Like I said ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5890179/Anti-child-abuse-advocate-arrested-trying-sex-kids.html

Laura silsby, charged with what exactly was it? Who put their weight trying to get silsby out?

In the end, charged with 'arranging irregular travel'. You think that makes me comfortable? Another technical win for Hillary.

I imagine just seeing the word Hillary makes you uncomfortable. It's called programming.

You're going down tbe general vague statements the OP did. Put some meat behind there and write a complete thorough thought.

Dude she was charged with kidnapping which was brought down to arranging irregular travel. IRREGULAR travel of children, i ask you

Do you think hillary being involved with freeing silsby and having the charge brought down makes me any comfortable at all? In this climate. Twice now we see HRC defending pedos and nevermind her tenure as SoS the 5200.

You wanted one strike but you got three. Back to the hole from whence you came!

Oh I'm fully aware of her story. I just wanted you to actually make a logical case. For a discussion you need to stake a claim and explain your reasoning.

And that is the problem with people. They want to take each individual piece in a vacuum but that's not how this works.

We don't have all of the information. That's why these people are still out there. Intuition is necessary and in order to use it effectively, you need to see the big picture as well as you can.

Yeah, like how he fired one blind shot that just happened to go thru a hard drive on a computer there? Like how the guy who did the shooting was a struggling actor?

Cameras turned hours before attack. Edgar Welch gunman with acting profile. Previously accidentally ran over a child with his car. Known ties to Haiti. Fires single shot into computer tower locked in storage closet. Nothing to see here folks!!!

Those Instagram comments/pics and leaked emails are evidence...

Agreed!

It's real but every time you bring it up here you get attacked. It's becoming obvious that the elite practice Luciferianism.

Yea we all received a "pent-a-gram" (GET IT??) telling us to shut down the pizzagate talk right away!!!

Doesn't it seem odd to you that pizzagate is a Republicans wet dream

hey man i didnt plagiarize, im not melania!!

Doesn't it seem odd that you would view political party impacts more than the safety of these children? How about we investigate fully make sure no children are in danger then worry about your precious two party system after?

Doesn't it seem odd that "the safety of children" is being used for political gain?

Where are the victims of this massive child sex ring?

The entire point of pizzagate is political gain.

Mike cernovich, notch, Flynn Jr, Jack posobiec, Milo. Basically alt right people

Oh, famous people said it.

Who gives a shit?

Just saying he is wrong

Sure, I'm just saying that famous people saying it doesn't debunk anything.

Idol worship!

A proper investigation would answer those questions. You cant stamp something out for lack of evidence before a proper investigation.
If you view political importance over human life you are a seriously flawed human being, friend.

A lot of Republicans are going down if this stuff is true.

Which Republican has been accused in pizza gate

That depends. What's your definition of pizzagate? Do you only consider it what happened with Comet?

The larger issue stemming from that (high level pedo networks) would likely implicate the Bush family, Paul Ryan, John McCain and I think even Lindsay Graham. I'm sure there are others, but I'm going from memory.

So basically the anti trump people

Yeah it's not like John/Tony Podesta doesn't describe their very close relationship with former Republican Speaker of the House and convicted serial child molester Dennis Hastert. It's not like they don't discuss how Dennis or "Denny" should escape to an undisclosed Japanese Island after being charged with sex crimes against children. This is all in the Podesta leaks, but I'm sure you're already an expert on this.

Haven't seen those. Link?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48488

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11508

Sorry I'm a bit mistaken. The email about the undisclosed Japanese Island was about monetary fraud. He wasn't convicted of being a serial child molester until a few months later.

Have you seen the email about the guy "dreaming about" John Podesta's "hotdog stand" in Hawaii?

Keep shifting the goal posts.

Me too, fellow conspiracy theorist. Trump eats pizza with a "fork". You known what that means... Disgusting. The far right has gone too far labelling that delightful party of miss Abramavitch a "satanic" ritual. They obviously don't understand art. It's high culture! Nothing sick about the play of it all. ;D

Exactly! I know you would come around

Done any spirit cooking today?

I had a spirit breakfast. Looking forward to my spirit lunch and spirit dinner later!

Disgusting. Santanaic.. Those rituals are Haram!

you probably shouldnt joke around with people who have been studying how to shatter psyches. youll wake up strapped to a chair, dosed up with lsd, while your eyelids are propped open so you dont miss one second of the hermann nitsch blood orgy.

https://youtu.be/JQBU4HvN5MY

general garland briggs from twin peaks told me the owls are not what they seem.

https://youtu.be/1kGbmCyO87M

It was odd to me how Megan Kelly’s Fox News interview with James Alefantis completely dismissed it. I knew then that both sides were controlled by the same controller.

who is dennis hastert and lawrence e king. try again. this has nothing to do with party lines.

Speculation is always just that. We have endured 18mo of supersaturated dialogue about Russian collusion that’s yielded a running tally of bupkis. However, mention PG & you’re shouted down by mostly inarticulate virtue signaling. So where are all the sane, conscientious, next gen of leaders among us? Without assurance of real debate, and the public shaming that happens to those who try, why would any stick out their head?

So why does the lion-share of public discourse sound like a nonchalant inquisition? Is the systematic dismantling of opposing views related? The same thing? Do I hear an echo?

Well at least the sub is still up. The rejection is probably ‘fabricated.’ It won’t look too good if they close down another sub. But it is priority one, apparently, to tAlk it down.

Frankly the raw material exposed is incredibly suspicious. There is not a high threshold around here to entertain manipulation. It makes no sense something with so much evidence would be so attacked.

That is a design flaw in Reddit, you don’t get points for triggering manipulation. Soon negative points will be the real Karma, lol.

It hits too close to home for them.

Anything to do with paedophiles gets downvoted and the ones paid to do it should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

Fuck em pal. They'll get their karma. Selling your soul for money is fucking disgusting.

Exactly pal keep on keeping on

What gets me the most is seeing the pictures of children on James' Instagram with heavy dark blue eye bags. These poor children look sleep deprived.... Fucking hell.

They are devil possessed. The devil is real and has a strong hold on the earth right now.

i think those who strongly disagree are paid to do so

i've had guys say Podesta's creepy art is completely normal, lol.

They're either paid or just as sick to not be able to see the weirdness. Not sure which is worse.

Completely normal.

All that blatant pedo referencing on instagram is just a coincidence! You're seeing what you want to see! Those people calling pics of 3 year olds sexy is just how people talk! Geez. Get a grip. It's only like 3 or 4 convicted pedos that hillary knows, she knows lots of people! Of course SOME will be pedos! Totally normal.

I'll be honest, the whole reason I got into pizzagate was to debunk it. It sounded insane. But, a little research can open your eyes. And a little more can ensure you never sleep soundly again.

its a rabbit hole that never ends. The UK has the same. Theresa May was in charge of the investigation into over 90 MPs in parliament accused of paedophilia. While she was in charge they lost loads of files over and over again until she became prime minister. Then the files got deleted entirely and they closed all the cases to save the victims the pain of giving their statements again. So caring. And it's the same in every other country too.

A common tactic the shills use is to act as if pizzagate MUST be tied to a pizza shop in DC with solid proof or the entire thing is fiction. like comet n besta are somehow the makers or breakers of the entire theory. They're a tiny part of it. It's about elites abusing kids in the sickest ways imaginable. Yet, if you cant prove it happens in this one building then it doesnt happen at all.

Even Elsagate ties to pizzagate in a way. Some producers of the content were bankers, some content contains learned helplessness programming too, the colours cause anxiety in children, etc, etc. Pretty much MKUltra for kids. Not that TV is any different.

It's a hard subject to bring up and try to show people. There's no easy way to put it all is there? Maybe just "try debunk pizzagate"?

Yeah, Telford too and for decades, so, potentially thousands of children abused and covered up in the name of political correctness. But it is global, there's no point in me listing all the places as i'm sure you already know.

The good news is people are waking up pretty rapidly. Look at how they had to close the pizzagate sub down entirely.

I was on twitter once reading a podesta post that everyone filled with pizzagate material and he started replying to it all. he actually said Pizzagate is debunked, and when questioned further he said "It is debunked because I said it is". The arrogance of that sentence still really bugs me and I wasn't even involved in the conversation. Such a horrible man.

this place aint what it could be. when anything becomes too popular though, the quality dilutes. it applies to the entire internet. and they contol this place now in various ways. paid shills. paid upvotes. its all manipulated. just sign out and visit the main page.

I hate the man, that fatherhood video. its painful. Do freemasons protect muslims? whats the connection? Lol.

Any particular video of his i should watch? The London fire engines are going to get masonic badges soon after a donation was made.

It's in so many places. You see the story of Oxfam being child abusers? So many kids charities are. So fucked up. The worlds so much darker than you imagine it could be. Theres always something way worse you haven't read yet. So grim.

https://youtu.be/vWMxHBuuP6U

The pizza place they were investigating ... didn't even have a basement.

A random jackass from the internet walked into that pizza place, with a gun, and fired it ... in a room full of parents with their children eating pizza.

Now ... Don't get me wrong - if that was a pedophile ring, sure, something has to be done.

But think about what that all means if it isn't ... Because of people talking NONSENSE on the internet a real guy with a real gun shot it in a room full of real children.

Fortunately no one was killed but still ... the PIZZA conspiracy has no concrete evidence and has already been thoroughly debunked.

Now there are other conspiracies involving the stuff you're talking about but they don't necessarily revolve around that one pizza shop, so this is largely why anything with the "pizza" monicker will be dismissed

didn't even have a basement

despite the owner saying there WAS a basement in 2015? https://i.redditmedia.com/FFHj7nAX_nUiej7_b34cOLlF4zro8cNM0MYC3Qx7I2U.png?w=497&s=fa9862592fb659cd0e3d2544d62b5f64

and what about this person who found bad things on the pizza place's computer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTRewHDOr90

or this person who was threatened?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U

or this former employee? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZQlEu3yNko

and the tunnels underneath the restaurants? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMGGSY0A8r8

plus all the points brought up here https://twitter.com/hashtag/pizzagate?lang=en and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47BmA0ZCrWs etc etc

etc. etc. etc.

Many users here seem to laugh and dismiss the pizzagate conspiracy theory for reasons unknown.

I was open to the idea for a while. Lots of people have been looking into it for a very long time now, and no one has come up with anything solid. Hell, a guy even broke into one of the pizza parlors in question with a gun to investigate and came up with nothing. At this point it seems like wishful(?) thinking to still believe this one is likely.

105 comments. 4 upvotes. Top of /r/conspiracys "controversial" list. Pretty much proves your point =)