at least $600M if not way way more says no, he said yes be my guest. the man/mouse has so much blood $ coming in, he's building tunnels to his house!

I think once citizens catch more drift of Michael Hastings and the guy outside Indianapolis, there will be a demand for low cost, simple, mechanical cars with no brain in them. No connectivity.

And the manufacturers will fill that need. Or customizers will make killing modifying cars to not have satellite technology in them.

Or vintage cars will skyrocket in value regardless of all other factors.

They have already made it a legal requirement to have cameras on all new cars now.

There will be a critical mass point where it will become illegal to manually drive a vehicle because of the increased risk to the rest of the vehicles that will all be in constant communication with one another.

There will not be. Democracy will get more direct as time passes, not less direct.

What?

Older cars will be made illegal by way of emissions standards and safety requirements. Shopping for a new vehicle even today has made me invest money into my 10 year old vehicle to try and keep it as long as possible.

I believe there was an Israeli contract that Musk did not agree too - after that, Tesla crashes, Tesla crashes everywhere.

link plz thx

It's called research for a reason, but here is a coupon for one free hand holding: link

By him asking for links, he's is conducting research.

Instead of being up om your high horse, maybe try losing the attitude and help your fellow men learn.

Dude, every time I post anything, all people do I ask for me to do everything for them, it gets old. God forbid people type 3 words into google themselves instead of trusting random internet anons?

If you're sick of it then quit posting and making claims without anything to back them up.

When you make the extraordinary claim that Musk must have had an Israeli contract and that him refusing it is the reason Tesla crashes, it is then on you to provide the necessary evidence to back said claim. I don't see how asking for this evidence is in any way unreasonable, especially on this sub, regardless of how 'curt' the request may seem.

If you're that jaded, then take a break, the world isn't going anywhere. And if it does, well not like we'll be around to notice it.

I posted my evidence to support my claims, so... your point is moot?

Thanks for the unsolicited advice I guess?

Only after someone had asked you to, so don't even give me that shit

Or was all of it second-class information, designed to punish people who a) ask for evidence b) do so rudely c) probably never read it and d) trust rando anons on the internet, instead of researching for themselves?

Why would I give out the best stuff to those kind of people?

So do even give me that shit.

Or just support your claims with actual evidence maybe?

So since I've called out your shit links, they're now "second-class information" designed to punish those who ask you to verify your claims? I could care less about what you're specifically referring to, what I care about is when claims are made on this sub and someone asks for supporting evidence to said claim, they shouldn't be shit on for it.

For some reason, a lot of people have the mentality of claiming something, then when anyone asks for supporting evidence, they're told to "research it yourself, bruh". I find such a response to be a fallacy, as the person asking for the supporting evidence is, by definition, conducting research into the topic by asking the OP for their evidence and perspective on the topic.

Why share the best info related to the topic? Because you care about the truth and the topic at hand enough to spread awareness of said topic.

Or perhaps you don't care about those things, and would rather sling around baseless claims without anything substantial to back them up. Just the fact alone that you linked a paywalled source is bad enough. Now they're supposed to punish those who don't "conduct their own research". How pathetic.

You still don't realise I'm not reading anything you say aside from a couple words to get a feel for what you're whining about?

I decided I didn't like the way he asked, so I chose to put as little effort into my reply for him as possible, omitting the best sources that took me a lot of time to put together.

Just like you would in any real life, low-quality conversation. I'm not sure why you're having such trouble understanding this concept, but I'm bored of this, cya around.

K

That’s hardly research. I’m an advocate for doing your own research and making up your own mind (not what someone led you to believe). And his tone was more comical than high and mighty to me. It was kinda clever haha

thanks for this, i actually did do the research myself and just forgot about this, and yes Musk was just in Israel and it appears not to have gone well.

So yes, his recent troubles could well be related to his refusal to kiss israeli ass.

And the fact that they want jewish people to be controlling all of his patents and companies a hundred years from now.

Their plan is all goys go down, all jews go up. If you can't be co-opted or controlled or beaten, expect the worst.

Wish I could help the guy more than writing stuff like this, he needs real friends and he's going to have a difficult time finding them.

did he have to launch from sea because when he launched from land it seemed a laser blew it up. maybe the LM laser.

They infiltrate and work in all sectors of tech and big corporations alike. Often by invitation. IBM Apple Dell Tesla etc They don’t have to ask imo

Tesla is probably 0.1% of the cars on the road, and they don't even have the production capacity to meet current demand. Its gonna be decades before they have any significant market share (and who knows what future competition there will be in 10+ years).

but the people who afford and drive teslas are elites already

elite brains are worth more and the concept of elite brains operating outside the system is what they are trying to avoid

i for one am willing to pay a lot more for tech that isn't reading my mind or worse, but the number of people i currently trust to audit my tech I can currently count on my fingers.

this is a global problem. i write about it a lot here and on steemit.

if this is the level of your analysis, you need to do a lot more reading. i say this as politely as i can.

Care to offer some 'recommended reading'?

my stuff of course lol

https://steemit.com/@mindhawk

Privacy Workshop is important.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/01/ready-to-fight-for-the-wrong-century/

The movie inception, The Matrix, and Black Mirror(the christmas epsiode especially) are important culture on the world that's headed our way. Phillip K. Dick(there is a story where a person has so many nightmares they can't believe the real world anymore) and The Truman Show are instructive.

In times past we had true intellectual leaders like Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov, in our time, for some reason all we get is Neil Degrass Tyson and he's not really cutting it.

Bill Joy's the future doesn't need us is interesting. Asimov's the three laws of robotics, which will not be followed.

If you haven't watched Person of Interest, I think that series comes closest to describing what it is like to be a pawn in the world of Palantir, when you know it has flagged you and you are being followed. Which has happened to me, and I think is still happening even though I left the country.

Nexus is an important novel on the subject. If you get nanobots in youre brain, you might be able to be made telepathic, and then a satellite signal comes from orbit and now you lost control of your body......

Take a look at how many shallow inquiries like yours I get here and on steemit, look at their post history, and tell me that this mindhawk project of mine isn't itself an example of personalized targetted information gathering.

I find very, very few accounts interact with me that convince me they are real humans who they claim to be. Even today.

NDT purposefully misleads imo anyway.

Seen most of the movies, was actually watching Truman show last week.

I'm most interested in concepts similar to what's presented in the Matrix, the role of psychedelics in hinting what our true nature or reality might be, and how to break free (assuming the forementioned is an accurate description).

I like this episode of Star Trek Voyager: https://youtu.be/v79lVNKthCw

you're not going to have any luck deciphering bare metal physical reality if you can't see through the lies of your daily life and escape the invisible strings of control that most of us are yanked around by since childhood.

Also, if you aren't really free of those your investigations are going to attract people and institutions(read: cops) who intentionally sabotage everything you do, if not outright finding a way to entrap you in a whole other layer of illusion like The Truman Show or Inception, or someone in The Matrix who is placed in yet another Matrix for good keeping.

As I have posted elsewhere, gnawing on the edge of the cage is a political activity that the people who run this place see as a threat.

I suspect and evidence exists that certain bloodlines and power pyramids want a monopoly on the power to gnaw at the cage, or believe themselves to be true gnostic masters.

I suspect this sort of thing is what "spirit cooking" and the Abramavich(sp) lady are selling.

btw read my article on the epidemic of homocidal maniacs hearing voices, search that title and mindhawk over at steemit.

Now that trans-cranial crap is in play, things are going to get difficult.

The novel nexus is also important reading on this topic.

it is a stipulation that can't be avoided if you want to do business in the u.s. The government is pretty serious about who and what is permitted to be available to the public.

the mind is electromagnetic

all electromagnetic signals radiate

all radiated things can be detected

why bother with image recognition when you can go direct to the source? from a great distance? and then inject what you want into the source?

elon is trying to develope an envelope outside of total control and 'information awareness' so he is being painted as a lot of things, but ultimately that will be a terrorist.

come see the violence inherent in the system, this is scary stuff.

if the question is technology but we all have to be mind-controlled by an elite oligarchy with questionable/opaque values, or no technology, then I take no technology.

|You think they'll take the surveillance that far ...?

That's a very clever idea and I have no doubt you're right in that it's probably already in use, likely in conjunction with other tells, but predictive behavior analysis is something I'm not at all versed in.

I wonder if diazepam could be used to defeat it in the same way it's used to subvert lie-detectors.

I speculate AI is being used to successfully map the behavior of large groups of people in much the same way meteorologists predict weather patterns.

spooky.

As nefarious as it is, at the moment there is at least a bit of transparency regarding their efforts. The PDF only really outlines the input parameters.
You have any info on how it's deployed to quash revolution?

I'll be alive in 50 years no f****** way I'm going to drive an automatic car or even a car with any giant lithium battery in it.

I just watched an episode of Electric Dreams on Amazon and there was a guy holding out on using automated cars. Not to spoil things, but they found a way to force him to use them. I can see that happening in real life someday.

Cameras can be on car without having computer controlled acceleration steering and braking.

Where do u think elon gets his money from? The entrepreneur business man is the perfect cover for the govt to build shit with tax dollars or missing money and claim a man did it in case there is an issue. He will probably be used for the next gen of faked space travel now that nasa is under the gun. We will all eat it up because we like the idea of the science man who will save us from our selves.

agree, very good post, very good questions. upvoted.

i think your suspicions are highly likely.

did you notice the last few seconds of the hbo series silicon valley asked the same questions of its characters?

good luck having fun playing Eve Online or idk inventing something when your processor's intel chip backdoor has been leaked from the mossad, to the ex-mossad, to the mafia, to your next door neighbor.

will be more problematic when said chip is in your car....or your brain.....

Elon is playing with fire and he is learning the real nature of the real game.

I wish I could help him more.

Trust is a real thing.

Elon Musk = CIA/NSA who else would want to keep you out of the driver's seat?

This is a good post.

but the people who afford and drive teslas are elites already

elite brains are worth more and the concept of elite brains operating outside the system is what they are trying to avoid

i for one am willing to pay a lot more for tech that isn't reading my mind or worse, but the number of people i currently trust to audit my tech I can currently count on my fingers.

this is a global problem. i write about it a lot here and on steemit.

if this is the level of your analysis, you need to do a lot more reading. i say this as politely as i can.

I posted my evidence to support my claims, so... your point is moot?

Thanks for the unsolicited advice I guess?