Corresponds with the advent of birth control for women. Estrogen in the water in developed countries.

Testosterone levels in Western men have dropped so much that the national average standard for healthy levels had to be reduced.

TPTB are feminizing men and "empowering" women via feminism, neither of which makes either gender happy. This is all to destroy the American Dream family unit for further population control.

TPTB

Zionists

My guess is pesticides and insecticides. What has changed since our parents generation is the massive use of pesticides. No one talks about it because it is a huge industry. So, eat organic food.

Yes. Glyphsate (#1 pesticide used) has been shown to decrease sprem count in tested mice and rats.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8ih4h1/study_shows_roundup_is_linked_to_most_cases_of/?st=JHRTV2DN&sh=97dae2f4

A thread i made a month or two ago.

and Atrazine

Because of Regulatory Capture these big businesses have a revolving door with the government. They can get away with literally whatever they want without even a slap on this wrist. There is no oversight and you are deluded if you think they have good intentions. It's totally possible they have gone to town on Americans and the West. For a long time people trusted big corporations but that is starting to change and everybody now prefers organic, and fewer and simpler ingredients. There is no trust left.

I have also heard about genetically-modified soy causing sterility in 3 generations of mice..

Also, we are unwilling or unable to view our own reproduction in anything but the most individually sentimental of terms, and based on results, simply cannot control our own numbers. We are yeast.

Who are you talking about? In Western countries, including Eastern Europe and Russia, the birth rate fell below two children per woman over half a century ago, and since then it has only fallen.

Until fertility drops to zero...then humans are wiped out in 90 years. Bye

hmm yeah that does seem a drawback

We are not a virus like the Matrix scene suggests, where Mr Smith is talking to Morpheus trying to break his mind down. That is the message TPTsB are forcing down our throat, subliminally. Ditch that mode of our thinking, brother, for your own sake and for your brethren's sake.

notwithstanding what a great scene that was :-) It's the smell... anyways, yes good points other brother, but would say also we don't exist only with reference to ourselves and satisfying our breeding urges as being the ultimate good, which is another narrative where a biological 'value' like 'I love children and large families' is inherently seen as a statement of virtue because it aligns with life's urges

The scene wasfresh on my mind since I was trying to find something worthwhile to watch on the boob box in my living room and that was about it!

Were more than our instinct. That being said one of my concerns is that when AI becomes sentient it may not be able to fully analyze humans and defer to the mentality that were a "virus" of sorts.

The reason is that some humans behave like a virus. A parasite on others. Let's try to not be like that. Our consciousness can be used to enact a plan of action to be fulfilled while benefitting others.

Back to breeding, some humans have consciously made the choice to not breed since another child isnt really necessary amongst the millions being born on some short time span

I love your ideas and agree completely, it's just more people need to think this way! Seems like few transcend their animal nature to act consciously like you say. Sucks that the constant tirade of stimulation from our mass media encourages us to be brutes and so many of us are thereby discouraged from maturing.

boo

Plastic, GMO, porn

Blue light emitting screens.

porn will mess up with your brain, not your sperm count.

Skyrocketing obesity will do a hell of a number on you.

Free contraception. Woohoo!!

The Roundup (Glyphosate) Toxin Scam and Conspiracy

this is used against us

look at how much stuff is imported into the US

think its on accident...? (;

You know what keeps your sperm count healthy? Proper diet and exercise.

Do you know what most western men don't get enough of?

Its just a fact that many people nowadays don't live healthy lives. Increasingly sedentary lifestyles and poor diets will affect your health.

Well said, a sedentary lifestyle is more damaging to sperm counts than anything I can think of.

And stress! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21452563

What is even more weird is that no one is talking about it.

This has been talked about for decades. It's permeated our pop culture in books like Childhood's End and movies like Children of Men. If you think no one is talking about it, maybe you're not getting out enough.

In no way does "lack of exercise" account for the drastic reduction in men's testosterone and sperm levels. Sure being in goos shape can help keep your levels stronger....but let's pretend like we haven't shown that atrazine can have terrible effects. https://youtu.be/WmytXKe0OcM

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/fertility/

Handmade's tale?

It might have something to do with the monotonous relationships we usually have. There isn't much selection pressure for sperm to be strong swimmers because in general people only reproduce with one person, so there's no competition. I wonder though if you see that in other non western countries that are largely monogamous, or if it's something maybe in our diet and lifestyle.

think of the toxins

the poisons

and drugs that can cause sperm count to fall

Monogamy has been around for centuries, if not millennia, in almost every single culture and civilization in human history. It is very unlikely that monogamy has caused a decline in sperm count just since the '70s.

My reasoning behind it is that you see it in other animal species that are more monogamous, that their sperm is less effective. Where as less monogamous species have evolved different adaptations for their sperm to compete better inside a female against the sperm of other males.

Reproduction is a complex event, and I'm sure modern ingredients that the first world is exposed to plays a part.

Their sperm is less effective, or they only have 1-2 offspring at a time? They are not the same. I see the connection you're drawing, but this is actually more along the lines of K selection versus R selection and has nothing to do with sperm quality. Animals that reproduce slowly and keep the babies nearer longer do tend to be more monogamous, but its because their babies are needier, not because the males sperm sucks.

Like up to 80% of their swimmers can't even swim. It might be both though.

That's probably because more babies for those species would create demands that couldn't be met and so natural selection has whittled the reproductive capacity down to a manageable level, and selected for monogamy to further improve the odds of survival for the scant and burdensome offspring. Monogamy and slow reproduction share the same cause, monogamy is not the cause.

Otherwise this wouldn't have started in 1970s. People are way, way, way less monogamous now than they were 100 years ago when sperm counts and birth rates were higher.

Handmaid's tale.

agenda 21 folks

mass conditioning and poisioning of the hearts minds and children of the united stares of america

Maybe it's from males keeping phones in their pockets at all times.

As everyone else said.

But, there is another thing, WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY LINE CANS WITH? A BPA epoxy resin that is prone to leaching.

Smoking + This + herbicide and fungicide intake and you got yourself some fucked up sperm.

Men in the west have been smoking a lot less than they have been every single year since the 70s

If smoking was the cause then we would expect Indonesia to have a birthrate of close to zero

BPA from the epoxy lining containing BPA which leeches into high acidic foods (One of the most popular canned foods: Pasta sauce, acidic as fuck).

I'm just making the point that smoking has nothing to do with this.

Many would say that there is a huge conspiracy related to a lot of things which smoking is blamed for but has no relationship to ( for example the paper which all of the original indoor smoking bans from the 80s and 90s cite as proof that second hand smoke is harmful ended up being retracted due to making statistical errors in their math to the point that the original conclusion of the paper could no longer be supported, or that every other paper on second hand smoking since then simply references that paper as proof of harm )

Handmaids tale legit

Actually, Tucker Carlson has been talking about it, as have men like Jordan Peterson. And you're right to bring up the geographic part because it definitely infers environmental causation, be it the water, diet, or social impacts. Something is very very wrong and it could easily be intentional. We see the full out war against men in Western society as it is. Could this be a multi-pronged attack? Is there something in out diets/whatever causing this?

seemingly hand in hand with the effeminization of men in the media... what came first the chicken or the egg.

> What is even more weird is that no one is talking about it.

men are disposable in today's western world.

Men have always been disposable, this isn't a new occurrence.

Porn.

Overconsumption of soy is the biggest culprit. Western people tend to eat a lot of low quality processed food which contains large amounts of soy. Soy contains plant estrogen which is known to lower sperm count. Add that to the fact that things like soy milk and other similar bullshit has become so popular and it's a recipe for catastrophically low sperm count.

Bullshit. They eat tons of it in Asia and no such problems there. As others have said, it's caused by GMOs, sedentary lifestyles, plastics, online porn etc.

It's not like birtrates are much better in Japan and Korea, actually.

Lemme guess, you consume a lot of soy and felt defensive about ingesting so much phytoestrogen.

Sperm count is the issue not birth rates.

Let me guess, GMOs have killed half your brain.

The two are directly correlated. I think you're just sensitive to any attempt to impugn your precious soy.

Lol no they're not. Did you read the link? No mention of birth rates.

TPTB

Like up to 80% of their swimmers can't even swim. It might be both though.

That's probably because more babies for those species would create demands that couldn't be met and so natural selection has whittled the reproductive capacity down to a manageable level, and selected for monogamy to further improve the odds of survival for the scant and burdensome offspring. Monogamy and slow reproduction share the same cause, monogamy is not the cause.

Otherwise this wouldn't have started in 1970s. People are way, way, way less monogamous now than they were 100 years ago when sperm counts and birth rates were higher.

notwithstanding what a great scene that was :-) It's the smell... anyways, yes good points other brother, but would say also we don't exist only with reference to ourselves and satisfying our breeding urges as being the ultimate good, which is another narrative where a biological 'value' like 'I love children and large families' is inherently seen as a statement of virtue because it aligns with life's urges