Gowdy's media interviews seem oddly worded and deliberate. Almost like a "running interference" football play
1 2018-05-31 by CivilianConsumer
The actual dispute is not whether the FBI used at least one person to spy — or secretly collect information — on people in Trump’s orbit, but whether this is something routinely done against Republican candidates and should be accepted uncritically, or whether it should be fully investigated by the media, the public, government watchdogs, and elected lawmakers obligated by the Constitution to conduct oversight on the agencies to which they appropriate taxpayer funding.
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1 techntoke 2018-05-31
Sounds like he is playing it smart and not trying to go down in flames with the rest of the Trump administration.
1 CivilianConsumer 2018-05-31
maybe, or maybe hoping to plant alternative facts/theorys to obscure reality. Article proves he doesn't have all the facts and did not read all the documents requested.
1 techntoke 2018-05-31
Obscure reality... Have you heard about the Psy Group that had equipment seized in Israel by the Mueller investigation?
http://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/psygroup.pdf
1 AcidNewports 2018-05-31
Thats why I think he isnt running again.
1 Upupabove 2018-05-31
Lol, I thought they were suposed to go down last year, and the year before?
Wait...maybe it's next year..
1 techntoke 2018-05-31
No, the investigation is ongoing and there has already been multiple indictments. Computers seized in Israel. More to come.
1 Bmdubd 2018-05-31
Really?
I thought Mueller already said he wont indict Trump, and they really havent produced much, what they have can be chalked up to them throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks.
Which can be attributed to his Campaign being infiltrated before they even had a reason to be investigating him
1 KindConsideration 2018-05-31
When did he say that? source?
1 Bmdubd 2018-05-31
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/mueller-trump-indictment.html
They of course framed it in such a way that gives leftists the attack of
>just cus he wasnt indicted doesnt mean he didnt do it.
While preparing them for the investigation turning out to be a giant waste of time
1 techntoke 2018-05-31
You thought that? I guess that is what you get for being so uninformed.
1 Upupabove 2018-05-31
Lol, ok let's check back in a year...I'm sure shit will hot the fan then right...
1 IanPhlegming 2018-05-31
Since he's a total fraud I don't know how anybody can try to figure out what it is he's doing.
1 CivilianConsumer 2018-05-31
SS: Gowdy seems to be forming a united front with Senators Cortton and Rubio, and carefully worded his interviews to make it seem like everything is on the up and up, and gave me the impession that he thinks Trump being spied on is completely normal (and fun!)
Imagine if Bush did this to Obama, I bet CNN would have been fine with that right?
Excellent Federalist article by Mollie Hemingway breaks it down with sources.
http://archive.is/RPWSr
1 Tentapuss 2018-05-31
A former federal prosecutor and a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee who have had access to underlying evidence and who have been briefed on what happened and who are both Republicans agree that there’s nothing to Trump’s unsupported lies on this issue.
It’s that simple. He lied. It’s not true, and no matter how loudly he screams it and how many times he repeats it, it will continue to be untrue. For Christ’s sake, Giuliani admitted that the whole spygate thing is a story they cooked up to sway public opinion in Trump’s favor. This isn’t rocket surgery.
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Others disagree with your conclusion.
13 House Republicans call on Sessions to appoint second special counsel
The conservative lawmakers sent a letter to Sessions requesting that he appoint a special counsel to investigate the end of the Clinton email probe, the start of the investigation into Russia's election meddling and alleged surveillance abuses by the FBI.
The letter's signers were
GOP Reps.
Lee Zeldin (N.Y.)
Mark Meadows (N.C.)
Jim Jordan (Ohio)
Claudia Tenney (N.Y.)
Francis Rooney (Fla.)
Matt Gaetz (Fla.)
Ted Budd (N.C.)
Jody Hice (Ga.)
Scott Perry (Pa.)
Paul Gosar (Ariz.)
Andy Harris (Md.)
Louie Gohmert (Texas)
Dave Brat (Va.)
1 Tentapuss 2018-05-31
Those “others,” unlike GOWDY and RUBIO haven’t seen the evidence of what actually occurred. You know who else did? Implicated as fuck Devin Nunes who hasn’t said a word since last week’s briefing. Don’t fall for the hyper partisan smokescreen that these nitwits and Trump are trying to throw up to distract you from objective reality.
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Sure they have. A lot of evidence other than the spy angle is already out.
News flash. No evidence was presented at the recent meeting.
1 Upupabove 2018-05-31
Bush and obama are in the same team, why would he ever need to spy on him.
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
He knows the law, and he knows the FBI did not break it as the trump team is trying to put out there.
1 CivilianConsumer 2018-05-31
He knows how to phrase his statements that's for sure. Keep in mind this wasn't a criminal investigation but counterintelligence investigation. The fact they spied on the Trump campaign instead of teaming up with them proves their motivations are questionable at best.
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
Everything they have done is within the realms of the law and normal procedure. You are just worried what they may have found so are trying to undermine the process.
1 IanPhlegming 2018-05-31
LOL.
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Yeah?
No.
FBI violated own rulebook by taking steps to recruit, use Trump campaign ‘spy’: Experts Bureau’s rulebook encourages alternatives to human spies in any investigation
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
There is no point discussing it with you because you obviously have made your mind up. If they broke the law then surely trump has a good case to punish them for it right? Why is he not bringing forward any legal action against them?
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Says the person claiming everything was legal and normal.
He tweeted a couple days ago about having the Inspector General of the DOJ do just that.
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
Ok so how long will this take, they will find a crime considering you are so sure of it, send me a message when someone from the fbi is prosecuted for breaking the law. In the meantime enjoy watching the indictments carry on rolling out
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Already found them. Incomplete list
The FBI used the false info for the EC and FISA Warrants.
The FBI lied to the FISC Court.
The FBI embedded spies into the Trump Campaign.
The FBI illegally collected the communications of the Trump Campaign staff.
The FBI failed to warn the Trump Campaign about possible Russian hacking.
The FBI failed to follow up on the warning to the Clinton Campaign about Russian hacking.
The FBI failed to inspect the DNC servers after they were supposedly hacked.
The FBI failed to determine Seth Rich/Wikileaks hacking.
The FBI failed to investigate the Seth Rich murder.
The FBI failed to properly investigate Clinton’s use of a private server.
The FBI failed to properly investigate the communication of classified information over non-secure channels by Clinton, her staff, and Obama.
You're enjoying seeing people convicted mainly of process crimes?! Pretty sick
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
Where are the arrests or prosecutions? You are listing "crimes" republicans claim were done however nothing came of them, just talking points to try and discredit an investigation where actual crimes were found and guilty pleas were made. Trump has all the power in the world, why isn't he throwing the book of law at them?
Breaking the law is breaking the law. You think criminals should be let off the hook?
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Shit doesn't happen fast because you demand it.
But of course the investigation itself was based on breaking the law. Fruit of the poison tree. Your enjoyment is hollow
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
Like i said, feel free to message me when they arrest or prosecute someone, till then all you have are talking points and distractions.
Breaking the law yet they have bought about no charges or even attempted to, make complete sense. On the other hand those on trump campaign have been found guilty and prosecuted. I'll repeat, message me anytime the trump team brings about prosecutions against the fbi for crimes that you claim were made
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
When the investigation is finished you won't need a message
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
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1 daysOFdelusion 2018-05-31
The Nunes memo debunked the first two.
The third was debunked in a briefing from DOJ to the Congressional leaders.
What does #4 mean, is that just made up?
The FBI did meet with the Trump Campaign and with Congressional leader, McConnell who threw a fit and demanded that information no be made public until after the election when it was via the announcement of sanctions against Russia for election inteference.
The FBI accepted a report from a third party about the DNC servers, how is that different from using private contractors?
You don't know what the FBI knows about Seth Rich and Wikileaks but I think that will be made public soon after Roger Stone is indicted.
Why do you think the FBI needs to investigate the Seth Rich murder and how do you know they are not?
I think 2 or three years were spent on investigating and screaming about Hillary's email server, and Congress continues to flap on about it.
What is a, "process," crime? Is it something only liberals and Democratic commit?
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Nope. Besides, we have yet to see the documents Nunes requested.
Unmasking. Susan Rice, Samantha Powers
Does not refute the FBI didn't tell Trump when they deployed a spy.
They never laid hands on the server. The same server they say Russia hacked.
To find out who did it.
And we will find they broke the law while doing it.
In the process of investigation someone lied.
Next time try clicking the links from the article you post?
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-05-31
Nunes debunked his own claim.
Susan Rice requested some unmasking, it was not allowed.
Trey Gowdy just told you the FBI followed the law and acted in way any citizen would consider reasonable.
You are funny, you pasted in confirms that, both candidates were given a briefing.
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
In your dreams.
Complete bullshit.
Ignoring the difference between a standardized briefing and a briefing for an active Russian infiltration effort that required spies, targeted trump subordinates, unmasking, FISA abuse, Title one surveillance warrant, wiretaps and leaks to the press.
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-05-31
I don't know why you think I am going to accept your opinion as evidence, so, I agree I disagree with you, on everything Trump.
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Living in the fact less zone is no way to go through life son
1 daysOFdelusion 2018-05-31
Good advice, I recommend it.
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-05-31
Take it to the bank
1 Iceboundend 2018-05-31
Halper was feeding the FBI and the media. The FBI used the medias headlines to raise a case of russia hacked the election/colluded.
Isn't that the sickest shit you've ever seen done in politics?Most brazen act of corruption ive seen't
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-05-31
Do you guys think howdy gowdy is from the same silver hair family thing that assange
1 BatiH 2018-05-31
Gowdy has been compromised. Another pedophile being blackmailed by the deep state.
1 rockytimber 2018-05-31
Guy got caught with someone's dick in his mouth. He is leaving Congress and wants a shot at the judiciary, hopefully high up. In other words, he cut a deal to save his own skin.
The FBI is not supposed to have been Obama's erand boy to help Hillary get elected. Trey knows that. But Trey also knows the FBI has always been misused. Fuck Trey.
1 Jobposting1 2018-05-31
Gowdy got exposed.
1 SuitableArk 2018-05-31
You loved him during Benghazi.
1 Dr_BunsinHoneydew 2018-05-31
I don't think you've ever played football...
1 Dr_BunsinHoneydew 2018-05-31
Is no one gonna question the "running interference" part of this metaphor? Is this like a soccer term or something?
1 soupvsjonez 2018-05-31
The guy was a very successful prosecuting attorney prior to getting into politics. Of course his speech sounds deliberate. He's one of the best professional speakers in the country.
1 lolums1 2018-05-31
Like i said, feel free to message me when they arrest or prosecute someone, till then all you have are talking points and distractions.
Breaking the law yet they have bought about no charges or even attempted to, make complete sense. On the other hand those on trump campaign have been found guilty and prosecuted. I'll repeat, message me anytime the trump team brings about prosecutions against the fbi for crimes that you claim were made
1 Upupabove 2018-05-31
Lol, ok let's check back in a year...I'm sure shit will hot the fan then right...