Remember when the sub grew to 25k users in 2 weeks? Can’t have people talking and sharing ideas.

• One year after being shutdown and locked, the full truth of the /r/Pizzagate Subreddit is revealed by its founding moderator. The Establishment Media would hate for this to resurface. The Truth Has No Bias: The Real Origins Of /r/Pizzagate & The Pizzagate/Pedogate Movement.

• The top post on pizzagate before the subreddit was deleted... a message from a journalist to all journalists

• /r/PizzaGate had almost 25,000 subscribers before being removed and censored by Reddit Execs: A Pizzagate Summary

• Reddit Bans #Pizzagate Investigation. The Corbett Report Continues It.

• Fully Sourced Executive Summary of Pizzagate Evidence

• DC PizzaGate: A Primer UPDATED 07/07/17 – Suspected Pedophile Ring Exposed

• List of times the government admitted Pizzagate is real

• Of course pizza gate is a fake news story! One thing all of these people share in common besides raping children? Protection by the media because they were so powerful. #PizzaGate

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The message from the journalist is dope.

https://youtu.be/pxpvtL5xrac

Democide. We should work to bring that word back into circulation. Shouldn't be too hard.

That message "from a journalist to all journalists" is such utter tosh.

The second sentence he wrote is:

"Edit2: impossible to get such a piece passed my editor"

This is someone who knows what the word "past" sounds like, but not what it looks like. If this person uses the English language for a living, then I'm a Dutchman.

Great post!

The shills will likely bury this one though, as you probably already know. Pizzagate is almost certainly why this sub became such a big target for the shills.

You guys are not alone!

https://youtu.be/Qsma7OGcp6A

I upvoted this post :)

The Podcast “Timesuck”(hosted by Comedian Dan Cummins) goes into great detail on this subject as well.

Why are you downvoted to -8 for that comment? Lol

I have my suspicions, but if you go listen to the PizzaGate episode of the above podcast you might get it, lol

Oh, they fixed it now.

58 minutes later, hovering at 0 or 1 where it "belongs".

People don't like having their circle jerk broken with information.

He honestly did a terrible job of presenting it. He was mocking it as unreal before he ever got into the details which he never did. I like his comedy so I was wildly disappointed he's controlled or just a useful idiot.

• One year after being shutdown and locked, the full truth of the /r/Pizzagate Subreddit is revealed by its founding moderator. The Establishment Media would hate for this to resurface. The Truth Has No Bias: The Real Origins Of /r/Pizzagate & The Pizzagate/Pedogate Movement.

• The top post on pizzagate before the subreddit was deleted... a message from a journalist to all journalists

• /r/PizzaGate had almost 25,000 subscribers before being removed and censored by Reddit Execs: A Pizzagate Summary

• Reddit Bans #Pizzagate Investigation. The Corbett Report Continues It.

• Fully Sourced Executive Summary of Pizzagate Evidence

• DC PizzaGate: A Primer UPDATED 07/07/17 – Suspected Pedophile Ring Exposed

• List of times the government admitted Pizzagate is real

• Australian 60 Minutes on the UK Gov. Pedophile Ring Network

• Conspiracy of Silence (1994) A documentary about an alleged child sexual abuse ring involving a number of prominent people, which never aired, supposedly due to political pressure

• Of course pizza gate is a fake news story! One thing all of these people share in common besides raping children? Protection by the media because they were so powerful. #PizzaGate

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This is the email that sparked the majority of this investigation. Various theories have been thrown around regarding “handkerchief codes”, but I am not convinced by those. There was never any conclusion on what this email was really about, since it was never addressed by Podesta (I don’t think anything in here has been, actually).

In that email Podesta doesn't use any of the "code words" he says

it's mine but not worth worrying about

Why does Podesta need to explain Susan Sandler & Kathryn Tates language? What leads you to believe those women were talking in code?

You say Podesta hasn't addressed pizzagate but that isn't true, he called pizzagaters "crazies" after Alex Jones gave his James Alefantis apology.

Pizzagate crazies: you can keep it up but it’s 100% false. Watch your man Alex Jones grovel and then get a life

https://www.twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/925404705051770880

John didn't attend the spirit cooking dinner which was a dinner party for supporters which was publicised on kickstarter.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramovic told me by phone this afternoon. She was at Sean Kelly Gallery, her rep in New York. The dinner, she explained, was a reward for donors to a Kickstarter campaign she had run. Tony Podesta has collected her work since the 1990s, and he attended, but John couldn’t make it. In fact, she has never met John Podesta.

http://www.artnews.com/2016/11/04/marina-abramovic-on-right-wing-attacks-its-absolutely-outrageous-and-ridiculous/

Satanists lie. All the time. In fact, they often say the exact OPPOSITE of the truth.

Maybe they do (I'd like to see some proof) but I don't believe this world renowned artist is a satanist or a liar, at least in regards to this dinner party.

I’m cracking up. The irony is you do far more harm for your “cause” than good. Pattern recognition will be your guys downfall. Keep fucking posting, this is great

Lol. ...Are you for real? "I'd like to see some evidence of Satanists lying" is such a dumb request it brings your seriousness into question. You want proof that politicians have lied next? Or that police have shot people?

I know politicians have lied because I have watched them doing it.

I have yet to lay eyes on a satanist.

There's plenty of self-proclaimed ones that are quite obvious. Roseanne Barr for one.

Rosanne is a satanist?

Well, she could be lying.

What do you mean?

You said satanists weren't liars. But when she said that she was a satanist she could have been lying. Only a non-satanist can lie about being a satanist. :)

I am not familiar with Rosanne's claims to be a satanist hence the confusion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8nmorx/trump_is_about_to_take_them_down_but_wait_is_this/

Why don't you learn something?

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How can you be the master pizzagate debunker if you don't know or can't look up pretty common knowledge like this?

Wait, is Roseanne a Satanist?

I wonder what your limit for "common knowledge" is.

Well, if someone is investigating the things the things that user is, yes, it is common knowledge.

LOL, you say there isn't evidence of vote manipulation, but my pointing out that Roseanne called herself a satanist gets downvoted.

Now, why is that?

You proposed it without supporting it.

Does everyone give a reference for every claim?

No.

Obviously not.

I like how people gripe about me not giving a reference, then I give a reference, and people say it was "obviously a joke".

I guess people don't find it convincing.

Seems pretty direct to me.

Posting a link to greatawakening and Q in general turns a lot of people off.

Not because they're sheep or not "woke" but because that stuff is written really badly.

It's close to junior high English composition on a baaaaad day.

I tried to read your link. I really did. I wasn't going to watch the video because fucking hell, what's the point.

I wasn't going to watch the video because fucking hell, what's the point.

Yeah, because you don't care about it. Really, at the core.

About Roseanne Barr apparently being a Satanist?

Hell no, not even slightly.

No, life.

Carrots are coming in nicely this year.

QED

SOS

You proved my point for me.

TBD

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/10/23/child-porn-cheese-pizza-arrest/

Posting a link to greatawakening and Q in general turns a lot of people off.

Not because they're sheep or not "woke" but because that stuff is written really badly.

It's close to junior high English composition on a baaaaad day.

I tried to read your link. I really did. I wasn't going to watch the video because fucking hell, what's the point.

I never claimed to be a master anything and I don't follow celebrity culture. If you make a claim (like rosanne is a satanist) it's a good idea to source your claim.

I don't follow "celebrity culture" either.

And you certainly do if you are up on Pizzagate. Alefantis was on GQ's list. He is a celebrity.

You seem to know a lot about Rosanne.

One word....satanist...and that's a lot?

You are a terrible researcher and logician.

You brought her up as an obvious example of a satanist.

Can you explain why you believe that?

the fact you can't discern that was a joke is troubling to me.

Oh, you are "troubled" by it? Like, you feel for my mentality. GTFO.

She stated it very baldly.

No I am troubled that you are taking an anecdote from her autobiography as evidence of a commune with the devil.

And I won't GTFO.

So all satanists are joking?

Are you back to that?

Which satanists?

No, you keep changing focus. Try and concentrate.

Rosanne telling an anecdote from her autobiography that when she was 12 she made a deal with the devil is not evidence of satanism.

Yes it is. It's direct evidence.

You believe a 12 year old communicated with Satan and traded her soul for success and fame?

That's fine but I wouldn't believe something like that without seeing the evidence.

You saw the evidence. Your brain just can't handle it.

Oh, that's unfortunate.

Here ya go...There are even comments about David Brock and how he doesn't do any wrong.

That's a picture of Al Vernacchio.

The article seems quite reasonable.

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/06/01/al-vernacchio-friends-central-school-sex-education/

What's the connection to David Brock?

There are even comments about David Brock

There is one comment about David Brock

Someone alert David Brock's pedophile defender brigade. The secret is leaking out.

That's not particularly helpful or informative.

It's pretty informative for the unaware.

Podesta, you say? Pizzagate NOT debunked?

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http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/10/23/child-porn-cheese-pizza-arrest/

Removed Rule 10. Attack the argument, not the person.

Try and concentrate.

It's try to concentrate. You should concentrate on your English.

There's a full stop lol.

lol

Yup, your English is laughable.

Thank you for noticing.

You probably don't even recognize your error.

Pizza means nothing, right?.

Why do you get "troubled" so easily"?

But Alefantis and Brock and people like that DON'T trouble you?

What kind of monster are you?

I do not get troubled easily.

What has David Brock done that concerns you?

I am not a monster.

I do not get troubled easily.

The downvotes indicate otherwise.

What HASN'T Brock done that concerns me.

Yes, you are a monster.

I am not downvoting you guy.

Raar

LOL, ok, "guy".

So, direct evidence of someone they are a satanist isn't good enough for you, but a Reddit comment is "real life" proof that Sex Stains and Heavy Breathing are hipsters? And btw, that link said Majestic Ape is hipster, a band I was NOT talking about.

Nice downvotes, master debunker.

I never claimed to be a master anything

"My posts aren't manufactured.

I'm not shitting on the OP I'm critically addressing the content which is extremely tenuous."

Sex Stains and Heavy Breathing are "shitty hipster bands" to you. Where are sources on those claims?

I never claimed to be a master anything

"My posts aren't manufactured.

I'm not shitting on the OP I'm critically addressing the content which is extremely tenuous."

OK so where am I claiming to be a 'master debunker'? (hint - I didn't)

Sex Stains and Heavy Breathing are "shitty hipster bands" to you. Where are sources on those claims?

You want me to cite a source for my opinion on two bands? Listen to the bands, look at their websites and come to your own conclusion.

You are not a master debunker...definitely true.

You want me to cite a source for my opinion on two bands

Yes, because your "opinion" isn't quite valid in this regard. If you can find ANYTHING that states they are a shitty hipster band BESIDES your opinion, I'd be surprised. OR, put them on a hipster forum and see if people consider them "hipster" (hint: they aren't).

Opinions are like assholes but here's a pizzagate researcher referring to them as hipsters.

It's more an interpretation of their style than something that is codified in an encyclopedia.

https://ww.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6cbipy/heavy_breathing_majestic_ape_pedophilia_and/

NO ONE would call them hipsters IRL. NO ONE.

Does that post now count as real life to you?

Not from someone that knows hipsters IRL.

Is she? I can't find any self-reference to that effect. Has it been wiped from the net?

Nope

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Interesting. Thank you. I pray daily something is going on and this is not just a massive long con. There are just enough true facts along the fringes--all the CEOs and politicians who have resigned, NK, the Hawaii missile--that lend credence.

But then I look at the nation's leadership--Goldman Sachs guys, torturers, war mongers--and it becomes harder to believe.

We'll see. Hopefully without blood. At least sacrificial blood of innocents.

My father was the biggest Tesla fan, so after finding out about Plus Ultra and Trump I feel a smidge better.

Interesting. Thank you. I pray daily something is going on and this is not just a massive long con.

You pray for child abuse?

Interesting that you would draw that conclusion from my statement.

Why would that be top of mind to you? To insult me? I don't care what you think. Because YOU are praying for the child abusers to remain unexposed?

Not sure what kind of contortions a brain would have to go through to make this kind of statement. A contorted one, I guess. I'll add you to my prayers this evening. I hope you get the help you need. Jesus is there, anytime you ask. Good luck.

OK mate have a good one.

Thanks! I already am! It's a great day! Took a nice walk to town, talked to a few people I don't know, it's all been very nice.

I'll def say a prayer for you, and, in fact, I already have. I've asked that good people get added to your life and draw you upon a different and better path. Good luck!

Marina Abramovic once had an art show in a slaughterhouse where she explained how to burn a body (you have to drain the blood, stupid!). She also attended Satanist gatherings hosted by artists Thomas Lips in the 70s.

Spirit House' was first installed in a former municipal slaughterhouse in Portugal in 1997. Here, the separate parts of the installation developed a strong relation with the actual exhibition site. Being quite reminiscent of earlier works by Abramovic, 'Dissolution' shows the artist whipping herself with a lash until her back turns red and her body starts to tremble.

The spectators who entered the space heard Marina's tape recorded voice, arguing that the body cannot burn as long as blood flows and claiming that the spirit can actually never burn. However, the installation was later exhibited at other locations, developing new meanings in this way.

Marina Abramovic once had an art show in a slaughterhouse where she explained how to burn a body (you have to drain the blood, stupid!). She also attended Satanist gatherings hosted by artists Thomas Lips in the 70s.

And?

She won awards for it.

Thomas Lips isn't a person (lol) it was an art installation which is iconic and also world renowned.

http://www.li-ma.nl/site/catalogue/art/marina-abramovic/thomas-lips-1975/7215

http://marina-abramovic.blogspot.com/2009/11/thomas-lips-1975.html

Edit: Wait, you think Alefantis and Tony Podesta aren't friends? They had their fucking birthday parties together. 1/10.

I never mentioned their friendship at all you have brought it up yourself.

Nah, you said that in a previous comment. The Thomas Lips exhibition was based on parties she attended prior to her art performance, her autobiography states that she rejected the satanic aspects of them, but it's clear satanist symbology and mutilation were a part of it.

She won awards for it

Yeah, and Weinstein received accolades from the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children. She also won the Grand Prix at the Biennale for her cattle bones installation.

Nah, you said that in a previous comment.

I said what?

In case you don’t already know, it’s worth pointing out that “cheese pizza” is known slang for child porn.

The phrase "cheese pizza" is literally never used in any of the Podesta emails.

LOL that username. Interesting to see a user that passionate about attempting to discredit a conspiracy theory, so much so that you name your account after it! Not suspicious at all!

The conspiracy is real. Pizzagate is a political smear campaign.

Yes my name is based on a piece of evidence held up by some as proof of child abuse which was actually a misunderstanding of the name of the original architect of Washington DC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Charles_L'Enfant

I disagree because I am sure that Pizzagate is not at all confined to one party. It might have come to light due to Podesta, but I guarantee that Establishment Republicans are involved just like Democrats. Its sad that you feel the need to protect your "team" in this instance.

And the dude's name is not a misunderstanding. People have simply speculated that James Alefantis is not his real name, and that he took the name due to his role in child sex trafficking to sound like "J'aime les enfants" , which translates to "I love children." These scum love to hide in plain sight and I like the theory, but nobody fucking knows. To call it a misunderstanding seems to be a misunderstanding on your part.

What do you think came to light with Podestas emails?

Pizzagate is clearly partisan, only lately did it become "pedogate" and try and legitimise itself by association with real pedo rings.

I believe James' mother is also Alefantis so I'm not sure about the name business. My understanding was it came from this picture of some guy outside l'enfant bar in DC.

What do you think came to light with Podestas emails?

Just some suspicious emails that appear to possibly have been written in code. Alone, that wouldn't mean much, but combined with all the other suspicious shit it does. And of course cheese pizza was already a code word. But yes, he has plausible deniability, which I'm sure you will argue.

Pizzagate is clearly partisan, only laterly did it become "pedogate" and try and legitimise itself by association with real pedo rings.

I found the theory interesting from the start and it has always been associated with pedo rings. I've seen shills try to argue that it is only about Comet Pingpong and the alleged torture dungeon basement, but that's bullshit from my experiences.

That picture was just used to lend more credence to the name theory I posted above. It shows that his name could be interpreted as being a play on words.

From the start it was a smear campaign.

This is a good comment I found, includes allegations about WiFi hotpots in Hawaii and other allegations that you never hear anymore!

https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5azmk7/pol_is_on_the_verge_of_busting_the_dems_pedo_ring/d9kyj26

I find it funny that the only threads you comment on are pizzagate threads

I find it funny that you find it funny that I only comment in pizzagate threads.

Dont you think thats a little weird eh? The only time you use reddit is to actively defend pedophiles.

Which pedophiles am I defending?

And this is not the only time I use reddit.

So when a certain type of person says "I love children" it's innocent.... but... someone else, maybe they have some other political leanings that means they're into pedophilia or satanic worship? How can you tell the difference?

Taken in combination with all the other creepy and suspicious stuff, yea basically.

I'll take "creepy", but none of it is related to pedophilia nor suspicious. Even look at that creepy balkan artist's paintings. There's no pedophilia just frumpy pictures of kids with wedgies. Really there's not a single pedophilia image in any of the corpus of "pizzagate" """""""evidence"""""""".

Really at best this is homophobia in action. You think that a gay man saying he loves children is creepy or suspicious but what would you say if a straight white woman says she loves children in her profile??

Nah man, no smear campaign. People that believe in it also cite the Franklin case from the '80s that was all Republicans. It's all about the elites and their pedophilia. Nothing to do with political parties. The theater of politics is for the profane masses to consume like any other form of entertainment.

Oh yeah, that guy is a fucking trip.

Now we just wait for /u/pizzagate_researcher

He's another one with an ironic user name...

I saw that guy once! Somebody was talking about trafficking being related to PG, and he chimed in and said "No, no, PG is only about Comet Pingpong and their torture basement!" or something along those lines. They couldn't make it any more obvious.

My posts aren't manufactured.

I'm not shitting on the OP I'm critically addressing the content which is extremely tenuous.

Your only recent activity on reddit is coming into PG threads and "debunking" them. It wouldn't be as suspicious if you frequented other subs.

Also, how do you always arrive at these Pizzagate threads so quickly? Your level of activity suggests you're not very active on reddit, yet you're consistently and conveniently in these Pizzagate threads.

People remember your username, pal. We're keeping an eye on you.

And? shouldn't these heinous allegations be held to a high scrutiny?

Or should we just accuse everyone of being a pedophile because they like pizza or music or art?

This community isn't for blindly following the herd. Your obstinate objections are irrelevant, I am not rude and I source my reasoning. Unlike some users.

As to my posting history and behaviour, I care not what you think. Imagine what you like.

Your only recent activity on reddit is coming into PG threads and "debunking" them. It wouldn't be as suspicious if you frequented other subs.

Maybe he's trying to avoid harassment. That's why I created this account. As long as I don't manipulate my votes or break any rules, there's nothing wrong with having an account that only focuses on one thing.

Lots of pizzagate "investigators" personally attack anyone who challenges their theory. Often scouring through their post history in an effort to "investigate" (read: dox) them or simply to harass them. Notice how most everyone who responds to my posts (which I try to fill with actual info/reasoning) attacks me personally (often calling me or implying that I'm some kind of shill). Just imagine what they're PMing me. It's just easier to keep my regular account clean. Wouldn't surprise me if they're doing the same thing.

But it's always those same 2 goofballs in every PG thread, shitting on the OP with their manufactured talking point's

I see a lot more criticism of the accounts than actual conversation with them.

Choosing to not feed them and taking their provocative bait isn't the same as refusing a conversation with them.

That's certainly the case for some accounts. I don't see any "bait" in this thread.

I see you attacking people though.

Ok, can you point to a time when they have made a false claim? Or when you have corrected it?

Because we aren’t fucking dumb. Noting this account here as well. Downvoted.

Alright man have a nice day.

Still interested in that NASA link.

https://youtu.be/xv2LrmBpI0A

Hey don't mean to be nasty but I had asked that user for specifically something that wasn't a video.

Hate watching the things.

Have a nice day

Removed. Rule 5.

One could say that it's suspicious that you are going after them because they ask questions about PG?

I don't think it's suspicious either way but you see how your argument falls apart, right?

Its suspicious to me that an account would exist solely to try to discredit a conspiracy theory that implicates powerful people in government.

Given the vitriol associated with the issue it makes sense to me.

I mean I see a lot of people complaining about NSA tracking, Google tracking, doxxing etc.

Why wouldn't you keep a separate account for this?

User seems more reasonable in conduct and more polite than those criticising then, I have to say.

Thank you.

I don't know why you have this account.

The above was my best guess.

Cheers

The point is... No one is implicated!

None of the "evidence" implicates anyone, in anything.

It's all unrelated, innocuous behavior taken out of context.

Translation:

The point is...there is no smoking gun!

Therefore you shouldn't be suspicious and you shouldn't question the intentions of these nice people when they joke about pedophilia and the like.

Hey again you're putting words in other people's mouths.

I haven't told anyone not to question it! We're in a discussion thread about it right now.

What do you think would progress the pizzagate investigation regarding Podesta/Alefantis/Luzzatto/Heavy Breathing/Abramovic/Obama/Clinton?

What do you think would progress the pizzagate investigation regarding Podesta/Alefantis/Luzzatto/Heavy Breathing/Abramovic/Obama/Clinton?

Maybe nothing will, or maybe someone will make a mistake, or maybe someone will talk, or maybe some news will break (like NXIVM). People suspected Jimmy Saville for a long time, and the truth only came to light after his death. Who knows what will happen.

Has anyone gone to the police?

Really? Even the threat on Voat researcher Ryan O'Neal's life, by one of the top suspects, James Alefantis?

https://youtu.be/qBn7ja_oegM

We're not outright calling him a pedophiile, but would an innocent man threaten somebody else with their life, who presented evidence against them?

Also, before you call Ryan a "merchandise profiteer" who faked the story, you should know that he filed a police report against James' death threat to him and his family. I'll see where this thread goes, but I may tag him in it later so he can elaborate.

I spoke to Ryan but he's not much of a talker.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8if3wq/regarding_pizzagategear_pegasus_museum_and_my/dyr7gq6

Could I ask you an honest question? Why do you care so much about a random pizza shop owner?

I'm more interested in the conspiracy than the subject.

Well, that's a really shitty way of avoiding a question.

They answered your question.

So.... no comment on anything he actually said? Just an attempt to change the subject and discredit based on his user name?

It is a strange name choice.

His post amounts to: "You don't really know that he was talking in code." Calling people who discuss pizzagate "crazies" is not really addressing pizzagate. And saying that cheese pizza doesn't appear in emails is pointless because people are alleging that the code word "cheese pizza" has been shortened to "pizza," probably to be less suspicious and because its shorter.

There, I commented on what he actually said. The article isn't misleading imo.

The code word "cheese pizza" has been shortened to "pizza," probably to be less suspicious and because its shorter.

Fucking. This.

They are just splitting hairs when they try to absolve these people of any suspicion, because the emails don't say exactly "cheese pizza".

They are just splitting hairs when they try to absolve these people of any suspicion, because the emails don't say exactly "cheese pizza".

Yep that's way crazier than trying to condemn someone for using the word pizza in an email.

It's like if someone's on to you using code words, you don't just shorten your code word and assume your good. You would completely change what words your using.

Calling people who discuss pizzagate "crazies" is not really addressing pizzagate.

That wasn't the user. It was Podesta.

Read the comment.

Uhhh yea, I know, that's what I was saying.

Guess I should read again.

Ok, even if we believe your decoding the email Susan Sandler wrote becomes

The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems child pornography-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it.

What do you think Susan was trying to say with the code here?

I think "pizza" is used to refer to pedophilia, not just pornography. I don't know what she was trying to say because I don't know if any of the other words, such as "handkerchief" or "map" might be code as well!

The 4chan thread says pizza means "little girl".

https://archive.fo/Wm8C2

What's your reasoning for believing this woman is talking about pedophillia?

Those are just random anons speculating, you realize that right? Pizza could refer to child, either boy or girl, for all I know.

So you have no idea what Susan means by pizza related but for some reason think it is associated with pedophillia?

No, I think pizza is likely a code word derived from "cheese pizza" referring to pedophilia. I have no idea what a white with black handkerchief with a pizza-related map could be. There has been plenty of speculation about what white w/ black and map could mean, I'm sure you've probably read it.

Why do you think Kathryn's use of black and white means exactly?

Susan & Herb

I just came from checking the Field house and I have a square cloth handkerchief (white w/ black) that was left on the kitchen island. Happy to send it via the mail if you let me know where I should send it.

I also meant to inquire yesterday about the pillows you purchased. I can send them as well, if you let me know where they are in the house.

How does Kathryn sending this email to Susan indicate John is a pedophile?

> I have no idea what a white with black handkerchief with a pizza-related map could be.

This is the weirdest aspect of your belief system that I just can't comprehend. Do you know what a handkerchief is? It's a square of cloth. You can print on cloth. So for example you could print a black map on a white square of cloth. This could be a keepsake for a "normie" who has sentimentality and emotions. So a real estate agent is asking if he wants his keepsake handkerchief back that might have sentimental value. How could this possibly be inuendo?

Am I the only one who has never heard of a black and white handkerchief with a pizza related map on it?

https://www.branders.com/product/rope-printed-cotton-handkerchief-prdid-143410/

You can get keepsake handkerchiefs printed with whatever you want on it. No doubt there are hundreds of keepsake black and white handkerchiefs out there. People that wear suits and have highly social jobs (like lobbyists) often keep handkerchiefs in them to wipe their faces.

So you're saying can take any word and swap it around and turn it into whatever you want. That's true. In the same set of emails you can turn "pizza" into a code word for "cocaine" and "pasta" into "heroin" and now he's an international drug smuggler. So how are you so sure he's a pedophile and not a cocaine smuggler?

Usually to establish a pattern of code words you have to have some results - ie. some victim of child abuse or other evidence of it - to correlate to the pattern of code words. For example code-breakers for the Allies can correlate an encoded message to a U-boat attack in the Atlantic. They didn't just ascribe random meaning to the encoded messages. This is what's missing from the pizzagate speculation.

they rape children/infants on handkerchiefs as trophies.

the canadian flag looks like a pizza handkerchief.

how much you pay for your account james?

Rule #10

ill read yours if youll read mine:

https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@mindhawk/the-pizzagate-challenge

just got done, pretty good stuff, you do a much more visual approach, but it is a good introductory

i start at the other end with epstein, which is where you leave off so its kindof complimentary

As someone who has been a subscriber to the conspiracy sub for probably 12 years or more, I've been strangely avoiding the whole Pizzagate issue. I can't justify why, but I have. But pocketfulofstones post here caught my attention, and I greatly appreciate it! Now I'm delving into your link, TheRiseofMindhawk, and greatly appreciating that as well. These are the kind of things that keep /r/conspiracy going and growing. Thx so much for your work, both of you!

Prepare for the shill-fest that awaits.

Nothing we can't handle. Thanks for posting.

Look at the second comment with all the links. Downvoted into oblivion

It's up now. The T_D is working overtime.

Anyone who thinks PG is a partisan issue is a retard.

To a shill everything is partisan

Ironically, this is one of your top comments in this sub.

Multiple layers of irony, there. Only applies to people you disagree with, eh?

A +1 comment is my top comment? I don't see the irony since both comments are referring to the same thing.

ProTip for you autists, sarcasm is a thing.

You tell me-

https://www.reddit.com/user/HodgkinsNymphona/comments/?sort=top

Its #20 on the first page of your top comments. And it looks like you're lying about it being +1. Oof, embarassing.

I don't see the irony since both comments are

I'll spell it out for you, then.

You said when others complain about brigading, it's cause they cant deal with people disagreeing with them.

Now here you are, saying that other people (who disagree with you) are brigading.

That makes you a hypocrite. Really straightforward stuff.

Keep on stalking bro. It's easier than having a real point.

I listed your comments by top. Tells you a lot about someone. It's really pathetic youd call that stalking. Hopefully that makes the butthurt go away for you.

It's easier than having a real point.

Sorry for putting the quality of your character on display

Lol!

Prepare for the shill-fest that awaits. This subject is extremely damning to the power structure, which is why they have 0 tolerance for it.

Keep pulling at this thread until they are fully exposed.

Your comment is second from the top....

He’s a shill?

This hit on a Friday night, all the astroturfers are off for the night/weekend.

The shills have been quite this week for some reason. It seems to run in cycles. They go hard for a couple of months then drop off for a week or so. Maybe a contract cycle or pulling back to gauge their efficacy?

Nah, they don't seem to care so much now. I think they were in panic mode at the start because Alefantis' child-trafficking / pedo haven almost got exposed, but by now they've likely moved operations somewhere else.

It was somewhere else by the time he did a TV interview.

I imagine it takes some time and effort to sort out the logistics of a new child trafficking operation. Pegasus Museum was the one that really freaked them out.

Perhaps directly to the farms?

https://youtu.be/aopdD9Cu-So

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https://youtu.be/-dvhgFJKH3w

I’m all for pedogate and aspects of pizzagate, but one unproven fact that gets touted all the time is the coded words and their meaning, which have never been confirmed and gets conflated with the fbis pedo logos. All from a 4chan page in every breakdown. Big hole there.

The thing about codes is they could literally stand for anything, its the context of child rape in government that ties it all together. Ill provide a link in an edit after i make this comment

The military was recently busted with a hooker scandal( in Panama I think). They used food words as code for sex.

The code words have been proven, not only by the FBI, but also here:
https://twitter.com/CoreysDigs/status/1002587081632374784

Found the shill..

Look into pedophilia among the world elite. It's everywhere.

It's part of satanic cult rituals. Transyugotthian magic.

That's real. It's legitimate. Some of these people do get caught but are given minor sentencing.

And yet, when people talk about this, it gets downvoted. Manipulated as fuck platform.

We'll see if this fucker even gets as much as a misdemeanor

https://news.sky.com/story/tearful-gary-glitter-breaks-down-in-sex-trial-10373633

Rule #10

Those code words have been used on the internet as long as its been around. They have been proven by the FBI, as well as recent criminal cases.

This is nice example how can you pull conspiracy theory out of ass. I wonder what is the average age of #pizzagate believers.

We should do a poll of people's ages who buy into it vs/don't.

Me: Do not believe - 34

My favorite thing about this post is using Urban Dictionary as a source. They’re probably edgy teenagers that think they’re smarter than everyone else. Either that or they’re really, really dumb adults.

Removed. Rule 10. Only warning.

ITT: people that didn't read T.

Oh Pizzagate started up right before an election featuring a candidate who's campaign manager and party/David Brock associate were fingered as the prime culprits, I guess that means it's real.

• no "cheese pizza" mentioned in Podesta emails
• zero victims
• falsified "secret codes" presented as facts
• falsified and/or deliberately misrepresented images and audio
• promotion almost solely by Trump synchophants
• nearly two years on and zero evidence
• a concept that plays on two very compelling and real phenomena (elites do terrible things/child sex trafficking is real), added to extant Satanic Panic narratives

It's so bizarre that there was an obvious conspiracy to smear a political candidate and their campaign as pedophiles, with zero actual evidence and a ton of blatantly falsified evidence, and no one is focused on that and trying to determine who is behind it and why.

Since it was during a campaign and clearly was a campaign in and of itself, I would look to campaigns (Team Trump, Putin, Cambridge Analytica, 4chan, Assange, whatever).

Which particular email kicked off this whole pg fiasco?

It was a combination of all of them.

You've got to be either purposeful or willfully ignorant to be so dismissive about people at the center of interest in #pizzagate when they've chosen to surround themselves with so much imagery associated with pedophilia. It would be like ignoring a person wearing a shirt that said, "I hate <racial slur>'s" and try to pawn it off as nothing more than paranoia when people point out that person is likely a racist. The media wouldn't be so dismissive as they have these very well connected people.

If it looks like a racist and quacks like a racist, it's probably a racist. If it looks like a pedophile and quacks like a pedophile, nothing to see here you paranoid crackpots...right?

This is the "omg isn't this art weird??!?" argument. 2 of the 100's of bands who've performed at Comet are probably creeps. Hell, Podesta is probably a creep himself, but that's not evidence of Pizzagate being real. You're also not addressing all the points I just made.

Which aspect of pizzagate isn't real? Because it has sort of become a catch all term. Do you mean that elite pedo rings don't exist, or that James alefantis is not connected to an elite pedo ring?

Um the original premise and obvious political easy target figures of Pizzagate, as in Podesta and Alefantis. Of course elite rings exist and are terrible

So you acknowledge they exist, so why cant alefantis and podesta be involved? How does a pizza shop owner make the top 50 list of most influential people in DC?

He was like #49 on a list that included a bunch of non-politicians, and it was in trashy and pointless GQ magazine if I recall. Of course they can be involved but no evidence has actually suggested this, that's my point. And many fabricated things were presented as "evidence" in their cases.

when they've chosen to surround themselves with so much imagery associated with pedophilia.

I have been keeping up with the media around pizzagate like some people keep up with Game of Thrones. I have not seen any actual imagery associated with pedophilia yet, especially not chosen by any of the people who are supposedly directly involved. I look at OP's link and there's none. Can you point me to which imagery in particular you're talking about?

Since I never kept all the links to the archives and his social media accounts are now set private I can't provide you with the information, nor am I inclined to do so. But, if you were paying attention, as you said you were, you would know this was one of the core points.

OPs link is a catalog of the images from their social media accounts. You can link directly to the one there that shows pedophilia.

Not CHEESE pizza, but HANDKERCHIEF pizza: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/55433

also kindof hard for victims to testify when they are all killed, suspicion increases when there are phrases like "Kill Room" found in the related subject matter: http://elitepedos.com/2017/01/14/researcher-finds-kill-room-and-receives-death-threats-from-james-alefantis/ plus http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3632127/posts plus https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyQk_VTXgAQZ3Dx.jpg

plus what about all this: https://medium.com/@pga17/pizzagate-how-it-all-started-f2e646c73a55

and here is a good thing about the whole "pizzagate" hype so far: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/pizzagate-turned-pedogate-leads-momentum-surge-busting-hagopian

the Podesta and Stratfor emails (international pizza website? channels for flying food?)

Are we talking about Podesta or Stratfor here? I'm fairly certain that Podesta never worked for any federal intelligence service, so what do they have to do with eachother? And that ordering pizza for a work meeting is fairly nocuous.

No secret codes here. Only symbols that come from Wikileaks declassified FBI documents.

You say this, but then you talk about secret codes all over the place. The entire allegation is based on speculation about secret codes. Without secret codes you have nothing. Within this very post you wrote, you say in #1 there are secret codes, and then by #3 you say no secret codes.

Justify this? I can point to numerous victims. The 30 children Silsby was caught smuggling in Haiti,

What does a kooky baptist missionary from idaho who tried to kidnap some haitian kids after an earthquake have to do with these DC lobbyists???? ... The one time the bitch tried this shit, she got arrested and put in jail for months in Haiti. If she was an elite sex trafficker... don't you think she could get around the haitian authorities after a devastating earthquake at the very least?

all the unnamed children from Alefantis' Instagram. I'm sure you consider those invalid...

The man runs a pizza shop in a yuppie neighborhood. Yuppie kids like to eat pizza. You think there are dozens of kids disappearing or getting diddled in a pizza shop and not one single victim or their parents has made a complaint or filed charges???

Stop dismissing the evidence without addressing any of it.

There is no evidence. You're presenting speculation. People have addressed it and you have no counterpoints because there is no evidence. In your own blog post, with most of the """evidence""" for pizzagate ever presented in one place, can you point out one single image that is even nearly explicitly associated with pedophilia?

Now you end with elites are behind sex trafficking. That's pretty much what pizzagate is.

I don't understand. Are you saying that all elites are sex traffickers? Is that what pizzagate is?

This goes back to the handkerchief thing. The concept of wearing a suit and having a handkerchief is foreign to you, so you speculate that it's something nefarious to have a handkerchief with a map on it. Same with the art, same with running a pizza shop in a yuppie neighborhood and having a walk-in freezer or doing work in a basement. That government employees can order pizza for a meeting and joke about it. Have you ever had a job???

I see you people all over the place. You walked into pizzagate when everything was already "closed". I was there from the beginning, I saw with my own eyes the instagrams of these motherfuckers. Get the fuck outta here with your bullshit. There is something here that needs investigating.

I was there from the beginning also. I saw how innocent people got railroaded by a horde of amateur fiction authors. The OP posted a link with a bunch of instagram posts. Can you tell me which of those instagram posts is evidence of pedophilia?

its called confirmation bias, you went looking to find something and you did. you're seeing what you want to see. any number of pedophiles is too many pedophiles. and yes 100&#37; there are horrific people out there preying on children. but they arent all in cahoots and they arent all conveniently the people you disagree with politically.

I have no stake in the political game.

Pizzagate is the conspiracy of all conspiracies. It explains how the power heigherarchy works behind the curtain and why the people in it are incentivized. Whether that be by threat or perversion

The response to pizzagate was the most amazing thing to me.

"GUYS ITS FAKE! FAKE NEWS! GAHA ITS EVEN BEEN DEBUNKED! ALEX JONES EVEN APOLOGIZED"

Seriously msm response to pizzagate just enforced its validity. Ben Swan that is all.

Otherwise, yeah great job. Only one thing I’d add is a list of confirmed cases of elite pedophillia which you added a few like Hastert and Epstein, but that list can be lengthened. I just think that adds to the validity of people wrapping their heads around this. From a laymen’s perspective it’s a pretty far out there conspiracy. No one wants to think evil exist like that. Especially when they run our government,

• Australian 60 Minutes on the UK Gov. Pedophile Ring Network

• Conspiracy of Silence (1994) A documentary about an alleged child sexual abuse ring involving a number of prominent people, which never aired, supposedly due to political pressure

• An Open Secret

William Cooper discusses moon landing

Physics.

It did seem pretty ironic that a known pedophile was accusing Hillary of being a pedo. They could have done some research at least to try to make a convincing story, it was just so full of holes from the beginning. Child sex ring in basement of pizza shop, a pizza shop with no basement, sitting on shale.

a pizza shop with no basement

https://i.redd.it/8cdzoryjhy2y.jpg

Two different restaurants

r/sicksadworld

Who is the "known pedophile" accusing Hillary of being a pedo?

One of the emails that doesn't get enough attention is the one

"Can't make it to the party, looks like I'm stuck having the pasta john got for me last Christmas" like tf? Reinforces the idea that they legit give each other human sex cattle for Christmas.

2 years later. Not debunked. Not even addressed.

Reinforces the idea that they legit give each other human sex cattle for Christmas.

How!?!

Open your mind and put 2 and 2 together?

Two plus two does not equal sex cattle.

Eh pasta is typically dry. It can be stored for a long time. Just saying.

I can concede to that, fair point.

How does that explain she's stuck with it from last Christmas and that's why she can't go to the party

The real question should be - how does this prove anything nefarious?

How about answer my question first, then we can change the subject if you like

You've got it backwards.

The can't go and therefore they're stuck with pasta.

Makes sense.

Although, all the best evidence is left out of these comments and op. The reason I'm interested in this pasta reference is because it's the first I've heard of it.

Why would you call this evidence of anything?

Strange, I replied from my phone but now it's not here.

There is not one piece. There's about 100 pieces and they're all suspicious.

I guess you could start with the most talked about ones like: The realtor telling podesta he found his "pizza map"

Or Podesta asking if he should play dominos on cheese or on pasta.

Seriously, wtf is that?

Or there's that audio tape of what sounds like a kid getting tortured by a man that sounds exactly like podesta.

There was never anything that should warrant an arrest but there was more than enough for an investigation which is all anyone ever wanted, and it never happened

Holy cow what a leap.

People downvote for no reason, it’s quite comical.

Yeah but when it comes from 4chan and presented as fact, it’s ridiculous and details serious inquiry.

no mention of the hot tub emails, that alone drove most of us insane to the point of staying up for days scouring more sketchy emails

4/10 article of "how it all started" c'mon give me a break

A hot tub isn't mentioned in then Podesta emails.

hot tub...pool...same difference...

Hot tub has more sexual connotations which weren't present in the original emails.

Wow if that's where pizzagate is at 2 years on, no wonder no one actually pays attention to any of this stuff anymore.

Pro tip: Facebook posts and random youtubers do not count as reliable sources.

OH YOU FUCKING GOT HIM BRO! FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE ARE WHERE IDIOTS GET THEIR SHIT!!! LETS GO TURN ON ABC AND THE UNABASHED TRUTH THAT IS DAVID MUIRS FAKE TAN.

You're so right dude, not just anybody can make a Facebook post.

Great post lots of good info and discussion

What was the message from the journalist? Won’t load here

It was a blatant hatchet job that conveniently grew in scope whenever certain people spoke out against Trump and the alt-right.

Trump is connected to Epstein. They're all in the same cult. US Federal government is completely compromised. Party is irrelevant. The left-right paradigm is invalid. Left-hand occultism versus right-hand occultism. White vs. Black magick. Both hands owned by the same Baphomet.

This comment section is crazy. They're here boys. Makes me wonder if something big is about to happen

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There is no one piece. This thread is missing about 100 pieces.

There's the pizza map that podesta left that the realtor found.

There's podesta playing dominos on cheese pizza. And many more.

I joined the r/pizzagate when it was only like 1000 subscribed and I remember how quickly things changed. It made me question just how much I trust social media sites like Reddit especially after all the correct the record shills changing the narrative through paid coersion. They knew that if they repeated the same lie through multiple "trusted" sources that people would eventually believe what they were saying. Thats why we still have to hear about Russia even now.

Don't even bother with PizzaGate here. Try talking on another platform. You won't get very far with any constructive discussion here.

So we already know that it's true, what could possibly be done ? To be honest, those people possess more power than us (the regular people)

John didn't attend the spirit cooking dinner which was a dinner party for supporters which was publicised on kickstarter.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramovic told me by phone this afternoon. She was at Sean Kelly Gallery, her rep in New York. The dinner, she explained, was a reward for donors to a Kickstarter campaign she had run. Tony Podesta has collected her work since the 1990s, and he attended, but John couldn’t make it. In fact, she has never met John Podesta.

http://www.artnews.com/2016/11/04/marina-abramovic-on-right-wing-attacks-its-absolutely-outrageous-and-ridiculous/

I disagree because I am sure that Pizzagate is not at all confined to one party. It might have come to light due to Podesta, but I guarantee that Establishment Republicans are involved just like Democrats. Its sad that you feel the need to protect your "team" in this instance.

And the dude's name is not a misunderstanding. People have simply speculated that James Alefantis is not his real name, and that he took the name due to his role in child sex trafficking to sound like "J'aime les enfants" , which translates to "I love children." These scum love to hide in plain sight and I like the theory, but nobody fucking knows. To call it a misunderstanding seems to be a misunderstanding on your part.

That's certainly the case for some accounts. I don't see any "bait" in this thread.

I see you attacking people though.

In case you don’t already know, it’s worth pointing out that “cheese pizza” is known slang for child porn.

The phrase "cheese pizza" is literally never used in any of the Podesta emails.

Given the vitriol associated with the issue it makes sense to me.

I mean I see a lot of people complaining about NSA tracking, Google tracking, doxxing etc.

Why wouldn't you keep a separate account for this?

User seems more reasonable in conduct and more polite than those criticising then, I have to say.

The point is... No one is implicated!

None of the "evidence" implicates anyone, in anything.

It's all unrelated, innocuous behavior taken out of context.

Ok, can you point to a time when they have made a false claim? Or when you have corrected it?

Nah man, no smear campaign. People that believe in it also cite the Franklin case from the '80s that was all Republicans. It's all about the elites and their pedophilia. Nothing to do with political parties. The theater of politics is for the profane masses to consume like any other form of entertainment.

We'll see if this fucker even gets as much as a misdemeanor

https://news.sky.com/story/tearful-gary-glitter-breaks-down-in-sex-trial-10373633

One word....satanist...and that's a lot?

You are a terrible researcher and logician.

No.

Obviously not.

You believe a 12 year old communicated with Satan and traded her soul for success and fame?

That's fine but I wouldn't believe something like that without seeing the evidence.

There's a full stop lol.

lol