Great question.

Here’s another related question: how would you ever know the difference? You can’t trust the media, you can’t trust first-hand eyewitness reports (which mostly come via the media) so unless you’re right there, in the thick of it, what can you really verify to be “true”?

Excellent post.

Of course, we have been raised to believe that if we simply parrot what we are told by authority, then we 'know', we are 'smart'.

Thus we are raised and conditioned by school to be arrogant and conceited as a matter of course.

What do I mean by this?

Imagine how full of oneself one must be to believe they 'know' what is happening on the other side of the world.

Well, most people -- normies AND truthers -- believe they 'know' so much.

The reality is, we know jack shit about what what is happening on the other side of the world.

It takes true humility to be able to accept this, after a lifetime of believing and parroting lies.

Very well put. This is what I've come to realize over the past couple of years. No way to really know all sides of any issues

Seriously, aside from grainy videos, loose translations and trusting whoever is hosting a video or report to be honest, there isn't a whole lot of fact to go on.

Even casualty numbers are often manipulated on both sides to give the impression they won and the other side suffered heavy losses. Syria/Iraq could just be a huge honeypot to reduce the middle eastern population to help manage the water crisis there. Various 'rebel groups' could just be CIA/Mossad getting young, impressionable and desperate kids to go die or stir up enough shit to justify an Israeli/allied invasion. Hell even some of the awesome battle stories we hear could be whipped up by some Tom Clancy clone to feed our pride a little.

Point is, only an ignoramus really thinks they know what is going on in these various wars. Wars can organically happen, but always remember the rich are closer to each other than they are their own country men. However a war starts, the elites will make sure they profit from it whichever side.

However a war starts

What if the wars are fake?

This is what Orwell tried to explain in 1984, but people are either too lazy to read the book, or too stupid to understand Orwell's allegories.

I know we've disagreed in the past but I definitely agree they could all be arranged or faked in a way. I think some conflicts happen amongst tribes and then the powers that be use it to their advantage to pick up natural resources or what have you.

Upon my reread of 1984 a couple years I certainly sat down and reflected on not only all the bs back to the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, but even most of the wars back to Napoleon and beyond could have been arranged for certain people's benefits. It's a disgusting thought but one we must entertain with seriousness. The elites want us to be scared, and rife with anger towards other people so there's always the appearance of doom on the horizon.

Many of the perpetrators are long gone but if we can expose the fraud behind many of our wars then hopefully we can find some sort of peace. The reality is, especially after traveling a bit, that people aren't really that different, except the way cultures structure their societies, and where they place priorities. If that doesn't interfere with your nations way of life, it shouldn't matter unless it's evil as fuck.

Pretty much, imo.

All wars are banker wars, and every single banker is a _ _ _.

True

This x 1000

Wars are expensive. Countries don’t tend to find them out of money they have already - they take loans. From banks. Who are often there already, funding the other side in their eternal Hegelian shitshow of wealth consolidation. The Rothschilds control the central banks , who themselves are aligned with the British oligarchy, centred around the Crown.

People really ought to look further than the last election cycle to see how far back the conspiracy against us has been waged-

Us Dollar British Pound Spanish Dollar Netherlands Gulden Florence Fiorino Byzantium Solidus Roman Aureus

The Babylonian system of control through usury, itself codified into the laws of the land, has been a blight on the advancement of humanity for thousands of years. This shit goes deeper than this sub chooses to take it.

Probably elite central banksters at least. Low level bankers probably don't know what's going on. Similar to the compartmentalization of some secretly Luciferian freemason groups where the high levels lie to the lower levels.

War is "diplomacy by other means" -- the goal of wars is to accomplish policital aims not just blow up stuff

You can blow up stuff until there's nothing left to blow up and still lose the war if you can't close the deal and accomplish the political aims.

In George Orwell's 1984, war is fake.

It is a grand illusion for the dumb masses, who believe the pictures they see on their telescreens.

Oh, but we have colour TV in HD, they couldn't fake war today!

Lol.

Lemmings everywhere.

The wars are still fake, the blood and suffering is real

Because you saw it on your telescreen?

Because I was there.

Please elaborate.

There is no need to get triggered, I am simply asking questions.

Pretty self explanatory. No need no elaborate. You know, real people are at the receiving end of those wars, some on reddit. Nothing uniqye or special about it

Pretty self explanatory. No need no elaborate.

So you will claim to have direct knowledge of something, and then when asked to elaborate, you dodge the question.

My personal life experience is really not any of your business and anyway how would you know if anything I write is true? Did I mention the anal probing with the aliens 'n all?

war = people pushing fake sides. sides are an abstraction. so it's just agenda pushing by any other name. the optimal Common agenda, imo, should be encouraging people to think for themselves from first principles - and then the malformed agenda designs would be way easier to see.

Trade and economic dominance with religion and cultural bigotry as a tool.

Yes. Absolutely.

Know Your Enemy (Part 58 - The Rothschild Era - 19th Century Timeline)

It would certainly seem like it, and I ask myself the same question as you also - how can we ever know the truth behind who is causing, manipulating, and instigating all the wars?

It seems the only thing we can be sure of is that the average person caught in a war foots the bill by having to pay with their lives or suffering.

Every war in the last 100 years has been contrived.

Well, sometimes there is a legitimate conflict between two parties. It just so happens that a third party benefits from conflict between those two parties, even if that benefit is just profiting from arms dealing. Some conflicts might be engineered, but many just involve an opportunist getting involved.

There is always a mastermind at the top

We know that leadership doesn't necessarily have their people's interests at heart, so IMO, a fair measure in determining whether or not a conflict is real or fabricated, is to observe the elimination or imprisonment of the leadership of one "side" of the conflict.

If they're unscathed, they're suspect. Includes the current anti-western alliance leadership.

There was something odd about the Korean war as well about a certain general being told to stand down, whereas they could have potentially finished the war had they capitalized on the situation and made a push against a vulnerable enemy force, supposedly. The general protested the order.

Will have to find the source again as it was interesting, to say the least. Can't remember details. The whole conflict seems to have a hint of ideological molding of the region, as if Russian investment in the war sort of collaborated with US efforts to make it happen.

After some reading I'd say it must've been MacArthur, yeah. Now I'm for the life of am trying to find out whether I have the analysis of the oddities boomarked amongst all my other unorganized bookmarked links.

That's interesting about those IRA figures. Will have to look into that later.

I suppose the explanation for that Chinese round could range from something as harmless (no pun intended) as captured ammunition to insert detailed explanation of war profiteering for manufacturers in both countries with no regard to national loyalty here.

Thanks for sharing. Would not be suprised if it turned out the British had interests in accomodating and inciting armed resistance such as IRA at this point, just based on the playbook alone. Learning about Operation Gladio was increasingly eye opening.

Very well put. This is what I've come to realize over the past couple of years. No way to really know all sides of any issues

Seriously, aside from grainy videos, loose translations and trusting whoever is hosting a video or report to be honest, there isn't a whole lot of fact to go on.

Even casualty numbers are often manipulated on both sides to give the impression they won and the other side suffered heavy losses. Syria/Iraq could just be a huge honeypot to reduce the middle eastern population to help manage the water crisis there. Various 'rebel groups' could just be CIA/Mossad getting young, impressionable and desperate kids to go die or stir up enough shit to justify an Israeli/allied invasion. Hell even some of the awesome battle stories we hear could be whipped up by some Tom Clancy clone to feed our pride a little.

Point is, only an ignoramus really thinks they know what is going on in these various wars. Wars can organically happen, but always remember the rich are closer to each other than they are their own country men. However a war starts, the elites will make sure they profit from it whichever side.