Steele Dossier

1  2018-06-06 by bluefirecorp

Let's talk about those conspiracies here.

Kinda crazy to watch unfold. The brokerage deal deal was neat to see appear in the news.

29 comments

1  daysOFdelusion 2018-06-06

Wikipedia couldn't be more wrong as a choice to verify anything.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

That's just the list. But if you want to read the actual Steele Dossier, go for it. It should be here.

But who trusts random words written on paper as "truth". That'd be silly if there wasn't additional evidence. It's actually pretty fun to follow a few of the strings they put there.

I've been watching this since before the Rosenloft deal was announced. I was entirely skeptcical it was going to happen (as I Google'd around). When I read the news of the oil deal (which wasn't even in the front page of reddit), I was shocked. It's actually fun keeping tabs on it. There's so many obvious links, I feel as though it's crazy for not more people to be watching it.

1  Third_Eye_Blown 2018-06-06

Yes it was a huge Conspiracy by the Clinton campaign and Obama administration to use state assets and even foreign intelligence alliances to attempt to guide the public's hand in electing Hillary because "it was her turn".

Thank fucking god Hillary had too many skeletons in her closet to succeed. It's pretty glaring when you have all the unelected, unaccountable assets of the 5 eyes alliance (7th floor) group working to subvert the most powerful democracy in the world and you fall flat on your face, get chucked into a van like a side of meat and then go on a world tour explaining how you lost because of your data team, racism, sexism, Russians, Israelis, Pakistanis, David Duke, Winton Churchill and bad advice from the ghost of Elenore Roosevelt.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Yes it was a huge Conspiracy by the Clinton campaign and Obama administration to use state assets and even foreign intelligence alliances to attempt to guide the public's hand in electing Hillary because "it was her turn".

Also, just saying, the Dossier leaked post election (2018, not 2017), so I have no idea where you think it'd influence the elections.

Sounds like PizzaGate / Russia conspiracy projection. Around that time, that whole conspiracy seems to have came to light.

Dude, we're not even talking about Clinton and yet you bring Clinton into this thread. What are you on about, Mr. foreign intelligence alliances?

1  Third_Eye_Blown 2018-06-06

so I have no idea why you think it'd influence the elections.

Being an excuse to spy on a campaign and good knows what else.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Uhh, the campaign was over by time is was publicly announced. Again, I'm not sure why you think this influenced public opinion (which is what drives the election).

1  paulie_purr 2018-06-06

A "spy" that ended up producing nothing and changing nothing. There aren't even any accusations that he did anything nefarious to the campaign, which would be easy as hell to make and would be widely believed.

1  Third_Eye_Blown 2018-06-06

Debatable. We have no way of knowing what the spy produced or not.

That fact he existed is undemocratic and a sane population would be demanding the complete dissolution of the agencies involved and a total restructuring of our rogue intelligence agencies. The cold war is basically over, cloak and daggers shit now represents a bigger threat than anything it's protecting is from. Case in point, a presidential candidate being spied on by the sitting administration.

1  Nothxplease 2018-06-06

Apparently the “spy” produced enough for Devon Nunes to stop running his trap about said “spy.”

1  Third_Eye_Blown 2018-06-06

Does this make you feel like it was a win?

A spy infiltrating a political campaign in our civilian government is a win for you?

Read it carefully and think about the implications now that Trump is POTUS and the bluewave is looking more like 2000 flushes blue.

Do you REALLY want this to be established as okay?

I think you people have lost your damn minds. You're practically begging for gulags and the ministry of Truth.

1  Nothxplease 2018-06-06

He stopped running his mouth because there isn’t a spy.

1  RedYagoda 2018-06-06

My take is that it was most likely purposefully manufactured in order to give justification for political espionage.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Have you followed it up at all since that original take? It's kinda odd when events to collaborating, isn't it?

When it first dropped, everyone could be skeptical, but at this point, re-reading it, I can't unsee the dots.

1  RedYagoda 2018-06-06

Just the opposite for me. At first I was skeptical and thought that it might be legit, but with time and as things have played out, I have become more and more sure that it was manufactured. There might be some already known info in there to give it the appearance of legitimacy, but that is about it from my perspective.

Also, I think if one thing in there is bullshit it sort of poisons the legitimacy of the whole document for me, and makes it way less likely to be genuine. And the pissing on the bed thing seems like bad fan fiction and I think something more would have come out had that been real.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Lol, that's the juicy bits. I've heard something about tapes, but who knows. But fucking some underage hookers in Russia isn't quite a crime here in the United States. Brokering a deal with a sanctioned nation between China and Russia is another thing on itself (through Flynn and Cohen).

1  RedYagoda 2018-06-06

Eh no offense to you, just my take is that it was manufactured. You pay an ex-MI6 guy to get some "dirt" on someone you are running against and then you can spy on them to get compromising information. Sure, the "dirt" is going to look juicy, but in the end it will just be bullshit. I think they probably did the same thing to Bernie, which is why they had "leverage" on him per the leaked emails.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Sure, the "dirt" is going to look juicy, but in the end it will just be bullshit.

But how do you explain the actual connections? Is it just a bunch of #fakenews? I mean, it's reputable sites publishing this information. It's backed up back actual record. Like this isn't some deep hidden thing that the government's trying to suppress, except it seems like they are for some reason.

I think they probably did the same thing to Bernie, which is why they had "leverage" on him per the leaked emails.

Why does everyone brings fucking politics into this argument?

1  RedYagoda 2018-06-06

But how do you explain the actual connections?

Like what? Preferably without any spin, just facts.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Sure.

The Steel Dossier was probably written sometime in mid-2015 (I'm guessing, maybe sooner). The Rosenloft deal was announced mid-2016..

This is where Cohenplays in; as he middle-mans the deal between the broker and Qatar. Now all that the broker has to do is middle-man a trade between nations. GlenCore fell away as a private investor and China stepped up the plate (which was probably the plan all along). Interestingly enough, the deal fell through on the Chinese, due to the private company's management team is being investigated for white collar crimes.

Now Qatar's stuck with the bill.

1  Nothxplease 2018-06-06

RemindMe! 24 hours “eat more popcorn awaiting response”

1  Boneasaurus 2018-06-06

This is very interesting and you're organizing this content in a great way. I'd definitely read a longer form article on this whole saga if you wrote one.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

I've considered writing a parody book based around a "fictitious" life of Trump, but I'm a terrible writer. I feel as though that'd be a best-seller.

1  Third_Eye_Blown 2018-06-06

It's funny that all top level comments on this post were downvoted cause le resist OP didn't get the response he wanted.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

Don't look at me.

Man, I wish reddit stilled show upvotes/downvotes on comments, just to see how controversial this is.

1  Third_Eye_Blown 2018-06-06

Well let's see, everyone who tried to talk with you has a dagger by their comment score and you have none. So it's pretty clear where the downvoters come from.

1  foolsoftheworld 2018-06-06

If you believe a document posted on buzzfeed you had a brain injury

1  nexusnine 2018-06-06

wikipedia is not a valid source.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

That's just the list. But if you want to read the actual Steele Dossier, go for it. It should be here.

But who trusts random words written on paper as "truth". That'd be silly if there wasn't additional evidence. It's actually pretty fun to follow a few of the strings they put there.

I've been watching this since before the Rosenloft deal was announced. I was entirely skeptcical it was going to happen (as I Google'd around). When I later read the news of the oil deal (which wasn't even in the front page of reddit), I was entirely shocked. It's actually fun keeping tabs on it. There's so many obvious links, I feel as though it's crazy for not more people to be watching it.

1  bluefirecorp 2018-06-06

That's just the list. But if you want to read the actual Steele Dossier, go for it. It should be here.

But who trusts random words written on paper as "truth". That'd be silly if there wasn't additional evidence. It's actually pretty fun to follow a few of the strings they put there.

I've been watching this since before the Rosenloft deal was announced. I was entirely skeptcical it was going to happen (as I Google'd around). When I later read the news of the oil deal (which wasn't even in the front page of reddit), I was entirely shocked. It's actually fun keeping tabs on it. There's so many obvious links, I feel as though it's crazy for not more people to be watching it.