You have never observed a volume of water as large as a single ocean, let alone a body as large as all the water on Earth.

Inb4 "But but I went to the beach and saw ships disappearing over the curve! I saw it with my own eyes!"

If the earth is flat, why do pilots have to factor in the curve of the earth into their flight plans?

The post topic is flawed. You can't scale large enough to adequately address this experiment.

Earths gravitational field holds everything to earth

It's that simple

If the earth were flat like you seem to be implying, we would have no oceans or water because gravity would push it off the "edge" of earth.

so if the earth is flat

how has all the water on the planet not drained

also what about time zones and curvature of earth? or gravity? are you paid to post these or are you just dumb as a box of rocks?

i will be baked off cannabis soon, yes

as your other stuff you said, no, share your imagination with us because you created this thread as a slight nod towards flst earth

so tell us brother, what do you think, is the earth flat? ;)

So what are you even saying earth is

a realm is not an answer

our minds are a realm and our body a temple, we incarnated onto earth, a third dimensional reality, with a spherical earth to support the needs of our bodies

How is it possible for a "flat earth" to not have an edge? The common model for a flat earth involves the north pole at the centre, with the south pole actually being a ring of ice around the circumference of the flat, disc-like earth. What model do you subscribe to that does not have an edge to it (which is actually a property of a sphere)?

That's like saying "I'm not a human being, I'm a collection of feelings and experiences". It's not technically wrong (unless we start getting into semantic discussions about your chosen terminology), but it's an incomplete picture of reality.

I can't imagine I will ever convince you otherwise, because to be honest every flat-earth-type I've ever spoken with has had the same attitude of working backward from their own preconceived conclusion. No proof can possible exist that you won't hand wave away as irrelevant, wrong, or sourced from the "other", be it evil NASA scientists or globalists or shit, even the jews. You believe your own vision and backward inferences more thoroughly explain the observable universe than literal thousands of years of scientific inquest.

I'd love to see some of the proofs of your claims, but I'm afraid that they'll mostly be youtube videos that encourage you to "make up your own mind", as if the mathematical proofs and observable phenomena explained by modern physics at both the human and astronomical scales should be discarded in favour of conjecture that is sold as equally valid. It's unfortunate there are so many people out there willing to take advantage of the gullibility of those with severe predilections for conspiratorial or contrarian ways of thought.

The entire world we live in is based on that scientific inquest (not "conquest", not sure if that was a fruedian slip on your part). We are communicating on computers over an international network maintained via constant supply of electricity generated by a multitude of methods. All of these things are the result of accumulated scientific knowledge spanning hundreds of years of testing and proof. This is the truth. This is the sort of thing you will hand-wave away. This is the sort of thing which you cannot provide for your worldview. Proof.

I don't expect people to simply believe everything someone says to them. I do, however, expect them not to dismiss the evidence and proof provided when that proof is concrete, scientifically tested, and forms the basis of common understanding about the physical laws and constraints of our universe. The fact is that I, having had at least some basic education in the methods through which others have dedicated years to the pursuit and advancement of scientific knowledge, am willing to accept that those people, having established hypotheses, tested and further refined those hypotheses through observation and the scientific method, are able to make conclusions that are the best possible explanation for the world we live in, without having to do that work myself.

I would like to see through what methods you have reached your conclusion. Give me the tests that, when performed myself, would lead me to the same logical conclusions as you have reached. My guess is that you cannot, but I would love to be proven wrong here, but the ramifications would be so insanely far-reaching that it baffles me that the most brilliant minds mankind has put forth would not have reached this conclusion first.

Earth is a mere plane of existence. No legitimate shape. Welcome to the sim.

Earth has a legitmate shape, spherical, AKA round.

I do enjoy the matrix but earth is not a simulation

Also, you never answered why every other planet is spherical

Have you seen the earth from space? Anything other than Cgi images from NASA? Which also have stated the universe is comprised of binary code. Literal 1s and 0s. So if the earth isn't a simulation, the rest of the universe is? Top physicist states st the most fundamental levels of mathematics, the fabric of our reality is computer code.

Your brain is comprised of copper and carbon, which produce electricity. Your nerves send electrical signals to your brain to interpret your senses. Electricity is in the air around you at all times. You're a computer. In a simulation.

Enjoy :)

I am not in a computer

I AM A COMPUTER

I have source energy in me so I can manipulate my own reality around me. None of this renders the earth flat it just makes us creators of our own reality/life

If you're creating your reality, then how is the earth a certain shape?

Because thats how the earth was created silly goose

look at all the other planets moons and stars

all spherical... Yet youre trying to say our earth ship is flat. Come on.

I didn't say it was flat. Not once. I said it wasn't a sphere.

if earth was not or is not a sphere

you and I would not be having this conversation

life never could jave evolved or prospered on this planet if it was in fact not a sphere

Why does it have to be a sphere for life to have "evolved"?

because if it was not a sphere we could not have gravity keeping us and our houses on this planet

without it being a sphere we would be exposed to no atmosphere

no atmosphere means no life or weather. No weather means no rain. No rain means no life sustained here. So if earth was in fact not spherical, we would not be talking right now

From Neil degrasse Tyson "we don't know what gravity is, we can't measure it, we just know it exists". Why? Because you can't fly, and you fall when something isn't below your feet? That's gravity? Could it just be as simple as without some form of propulsion you can't leave the ground? Nothing is holding you or I here?

Why would you even bother quoting an egotistical dude like him?

And yeah, we need propulsion to lift off the ground. AKA legs or rockets or suppressed technology

not sure what youre getting at with that last commenn

Because some people recognize him as a "scientist". And what he's saying, is the same thing as other scientists say.

And my point is, does it have to be gravity that's holding you here. And a leg isn't propulsion dude. Aside from jumping, which applies a maximum amount of velocity achieving a certain height. Not withheld because of gravity. We don't have wings or rockets attached to us, hence we can't fly.

so what even is your goal here

do you believe in flat earth or

do you just listen to group mind think?

Group mind think would be round earth my dude.

Your name says "spiritual war". Which side are you fighting for?

group think can be "right" in certain established situations.

Such as the earth being flat, which is really really easy to prove.

So yeah, I go with group think on this one and am in camp sphere

Haahahahhahah. You're too much. Brain is composed of copper? Holy shit that's absurd.

Hop on Google and fucking type it in lmfao.

Rofl. Dude, trace elements of copper in enzymes? That's your copper in the brain? Goddamn man, that's an interesting take. You're full hook, like and sinker on the retard-bait, huh? Fabric of reality is computer code? [citation needed]. Oh, because brain function and the nervous system uses electricity to send signals, I guess that obviously means we're in a computer! And the large rock that impacted your skull when you were a newborn, where was it's electricity?

Lmfao

My thoughts exactly, bud.

Someone way smarter than you or i, who has studied physics all his life has stated that, but you're right man. I got hit with a rock at birth. Real Einstein you are. Literally.

Who? You haven't said who, you've just paraphrased some anonymous scientist. I suspect you've drawn your own conclusions from their words to satisfy your worldview.

James Gates.

Cool, this is interesting, and I do agree that we could very well be living in a simulation, but your previous arguments were specious at best, especially those relating to brain chemistry and the presence of electricity in the nervous system. Should we be living in a simulation, electricity in the nervous system would also be simulated, and not at all necessarily proof of anything.

Moreover, even if we were living in a simulation, every mathematical and physical model points to a spherical earth, which was the point of the conversation to begin with. Simulation or not. Ultimately, any sufficiently advanced simulation being indistinguishable from reality, it makes no difference whether our existence is in the form we believe it to be, because our observable universe (real or not) still obeys the laws which we are able to discern via testing various hypotheses. All of these point conclusively to a spherical earth, to the point where there is zero scientific uncertainty. It is fact.

YOU sir are completely ignoring scientific process. This user presented a fact to counter your argument, wether or not he recognizes your original question is irrelevant. This is the problem with flat-earthers, you are choosing which facts you do or do not recognize, and only applying facts that appeal to your theory. Which is all this is, a theory. Granted, most theories are based on fact, but what you have here is a theory nonetheless.

Look man, continue your pursuit of the truth by all means, but maybe apply that to something legitimate. You'll find very little love on this sub for flat Earth theories, because there is nothing to back up the claims. If you have actual facts to support your theory, I'm sure we would love to hear them, but "water should flow around a spherical earth, so Earth is flat" is simply not a formulated theory, it's more of a shower thought. Here's something to chew on; Gravity pulls everything towards the center of the planet, which almost perfectly simulates a flat surface from our perspective. Water would act exactly the same, even settle in the same places, wether it's on a sphere effected by gravity, or a flat surface effected by gravity.

but where are the facts to back up the sphere earth theory ... its also only a theory .. whether or not this sub loves the topic is irrelevant .. the amount of hate flat earth gets makes me really think its true after all lol

I'm really not sure how to respond to this.

It's not a theory because we have video from space proving that the earth is a sphere. /thread

really? what video? thats not cgi please

And of course, any video/photo showing a spherical earth from space is automatically called CGI by flat earth retards.

Basically you are asking for evidence that you will refuse to accept, no matter what.

but you are kinda doing the same thing

If the earth is flat, why is every other planetary celestial body we have ever observed round?

"If a pool table is flat, why are all of the billiard balls round?"

(a) the table and balls were made in those shapes by a person (b) the table and balls are not large enough to have their shape determined by gravity

In the real world: a man has at his disposal several centuries of science and technology which provide rigorous theoretical explanations and hard physical evidence about his solar system and its nature.

Your pool table analogy is absurd.

There's nothing familiar or comforting about the notion of flying around a nuclear inferno in the void of space on a tiny rock.

but how do you know these things for yourself?

Watch a sunrise.

That will give you 100% proof that the earth is not flat.

how so

Bad analogy.

If the Moon were round on a flat earth, then we would see it change phases as it passes over us as well as see it change in angular size.

That analogy makes no sense. The pool table would be space not Earth.

No can't you see, the ice wall keeps the Earth cool so global warming is also a hoax! /s

If the earth is flat, how come I can travel in any direction until I reach my original starting point?

if the earth is flat

why is every other planet observed and seen from our "flat earth"

round and spherical? Every single one? Yet we supposedly live on a flat earth? LOOOOOL.

Is the moon round

Yes I can see the moon is round See jack throw.the ball. Kane will catch the ball. The dog says bow bow wow. Johnny can run fast. Bob can run fast to. The earth is round elementary dear Watson

This so stupid I getting ugly

have you done this thing you speak of and proven it for yourself?

Have you? Have you ever gone to the South Pole to prove it is not one point on the surface of a sphere, but is in fact a ring around the center of a infinitely large plane?

If the South Pole is what you claim it is, you should be able to easily document that fact simply by going there and demonstrating that you can travel any large distance while still remaining at the Pole.

But we all know you've never done the things you need to do to prove your bullshit claims.

Try going around the globe from north to south then! Ever wonder why you can only circumnavigate the globe in an east/west direction?

If you mean by plane, the answer is jetstreams. It is far easier for a plane to move with the wind than side on.

Well there’s an absolutely massive and inhospitable land of ice and wind stopping me from going north and south

But that doesn't stop anyone from actually doing it:

The Transglobe Expedition was the first expedition to make a circumpolar navigation, traveling the world "vertically" traversing both of the poles using only surface transport.

Starting in 1979 from Greenwich in the United Kingdom, adventurers Sir Ranulph Fiennes and Charles R. Burton went south, arriving at the South Pole on 15 December 1980. Over the next 14 months, they went north again, reaching the North Pole on 11 April 1982. Travelling south once more, they arrived again in Greenwich on 29 August 1982.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transglobe_Expedition

Ranulph Fiennes would laugh in the face of idiots like OP. He's done the things they say can't be done. He's done it while they sit on their stupid asses and theorise about shit they have never and will never actually put to the test because they are too stupid to ever pull it off.

So the world is shaped like a roll of toilet paper?

Water follows the curvature of the Earth due to gravity.

if the earth is flat

why have the oceans and rivers not completly drained off the edge

and dont feed me that bullshit arctic wall narrative

so are you saying earth is on a turtle?

Is it turtles all the way down?

Why havent the oceans and rivers drained off this turtle we are on

so if there is no edge

what is it?

enlightenten me of your disinfo, dad

username checks out

and you made a post implying the earth is flat

but youre calling me dumb and my questions dumb?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

so indoctrinated into these mind traps that you cant even let yourself be open to new ideas ... its sad .. the sign of an intelligent mind is to be open to new ideas that you may not believe

open to the idea of the CIA Psy-Op called flat earth?

Trust me, I am very open minded

But my research and facts have lead me to conclude that earth is a SPHERE aka ROUND

but the flat earth model technically is "round" still ..

how can something that is supposed to be flat be round as well

that makes 0 logical sense

but then again flat earth requires you to defy logical sense so, it makes sense, in a weird sort of way.

"flat" obviously is still multi dimensional its not just a piece of paper

The ball is the psyop.

"the ball"

what ball? The rubber one? The plastic ones?

Earth? Earth isnt a ball. It's a sphere, far from being flat.

I'm not 100% sure exactly what the earth is or it's shape, but I am 100% sure it's not a sphere and there is no curvature to be measured anywhere.

May I ask what interests you about the flat earth conspiracy?

What personally made you want to research it?

Also why do you not know what the earth is

the sign of an intelligent mind doesn't close itself off to 100 years of scientific knowledge. FE has zero empirical evidence to back it up.

thats not true though

Yes it is? Show me any empirical or peer reviewed evidence for FE.

You gotta understand that flat earth does away with what we consider outer space to be. If there is an area to fall off, then it's not the proper flat earth theory model because there is no outer space with that. If you have free time and want an elaboration regarding aspects of flat earth theory, I recommend skipping around this stuff. You may think the wall is bullshit - but if we're on an infinite plane with an ocean with a sun circling the middle.... the further you go out, the less sun heat the ocean will get. It will be frozen before the idea of it falling off could ever be possible

what?

none of what you said makes any logical sense whatsoever

If the earth is flat, how has water not drained all the way off? Also where is Australia if the world is flat?

Do some research so you don’t come across as so under-informed

some research into the earth being flat?

no thanks

i like to research actual topics that arent obvious CIA psy-ops

haha that is so laughable .. geocentric theory has been around a lot longer than heliocentric thought .. the psyop is what youre looking into so your research is incomplete .. what he said made perfect sense

if it makes perfect sense then give me a TL:DR and we will start our discussion there

If the earth is a realm and its not a sphere but not flat

but it is a simulation and we are creators

then what leaves the earth? Yes we are creators but the earth is in fact spherical, otherwise we could not incarnate/exist on this earth.

how so?

The issue I'm finding with this post is that you view down as towards the south pole, when in reality down is towards the core of the earth. Gravity is a real thing, surprisingly, so water falls "down" towards the area of highest mass, being the core of our spherical earth. Here's a question for you, if the earth is supposedly flat, why can't I see mount Everest from here? And don't say because it's far away, because distance is a hoax designed by the lizard Nazis to keeps us behind the yellow lines in subways.

Well gee, guess you just singlehandedly beat logic, way to go buddy! /s

Throw a glass of water into the air and ALL the water breaks up into spheres. Earth did the same thing, more or less.

The earth did the same thing.

If we take a laser and put it parralell to the water, over the course of 80 miles or so there is a significant difference between the level of the laser and the level of the water.

Are you saying air is a fluid?

Gas Fluid

Pick one

You've won this argument sir lol I didn't know the word could actually apply to gases. That being said, the earth isn't flat

how do you know

There are much greater conspiracies out there that have a very real effect on every individuals day to day life that don't make any sense or matter if flat earth is true. Regardless of the terrible logic used by most that believe it, regardless of the myriad of evidence contradicting is, or the common sense, it just isn't flat. I know how you feel. That you've been lied to, that all the information you get is bullshit. You're in the beginning of a mass change and you quantify that as "everything is bullshit except the most ridiculous that is on the fringe and everyone tries to debunk." it's a common way of thinking, but a dangerous one. Please do some basic research on the known physics of this world before you make ideas on the unknown physics.

/condescending much?

It's true. I went through this. I believe most on this subreddit have, it's a pretty common sentiment.

You accept the science that defines gas as a form of fluid, but ignore the same science that leads to the inevitable conclusion that the earth is spherical?

Parrallel, through the air.....

And random oscillations in temperature and pressure consistently give you the same answer? Highly unlikely.

When schools don't teach science, people make up their own. Just like 5000 years ago.

Did you build an Earth?

When schools teach lies, the classroom is the last room to find the truth

The world (globe) is too large for you to see any noticeable curvature

For sure stupidest thing I’ve read today and I’m subscribed to world news.

Gravity is your answer. If you don’t believe in gravity you’re already too far gone for us to help

I lovethis rabbit hole.

Other planets are circles. Why isnt earth?

you stare at planets from earth seeing a circle in the sky does that change it from being a flat circle, just curious?

does the water surface find level? or does the surface bulge out follow the curvature of the earth?

Here is the accurate answer - BOTH.

To be "level", a surface has to be perpendicular to the direction of gravity. On a spherical planet, the direction of gravity is towards the center of the sphere so that it is equidistant from the center at all points of its surface.

In order to stay level on a spherical planet, water must bend around the sphere, adopting a spherical shape slightly larger than the spherical shape of the planet.

look mister you may have big words but I have my feelings and I feel offended that you disagree so you must be wrong. #Flaterth4lyfe #gravityisjustatheory

Youre all wrong. The Earth is a tetrahedron. Give me proof Im incorrect and possibly retarded.

Water always finds its level?

You're thinking about this incorrectly. Water doesn't find its level, and never has. Water finds equilibrium with the forces acting on it, all mater does. It's better, and more accurate, to think about the forces acting on the water at any particular point, and where they will eventually cancel out.

Your post clearly shows your scientific ignorance. Educate youtself properly please.

does the water surface find level?

Yes it finds level why do you think it doesn't? What definition of level are you using?

what?

none of what you said makes any logical sense whatsoever

If the earth is flat, how has water not drained all the way off? Also where is Australia if the world is flat?

If you're creating your reality, then how is the earth a certain shape?

You've won this argument sir lol I didn't know the word could actually apply to gases. That being said, the earth isn't flat

how so?

Did you build an Earth?

really? what video? thats not cgi please

You accept the science that defines gas as a form of fluid, but ignore the same science that leads to the inevitable conclusion that the earth is spherical?