There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Why are people only talking about what NK will give up but think they wont ask for anything in return

Less sanctions and recognition on the world stage goes a long way for NK. Not to mention the opportunity to allow US science and medicine to improve the health and lives of the people of NK and thus cementing Kim's legacy in the eyes of his people.

Not to mention the opportunity to allow US science and medicine to improve the health and lives of the people of NK

Murica FIRST!

NK isnt doing this for the good of their people, they have a brutal dictatorship and Kim didnt just wake up one day and decide to be a decent human.

They want something, and I have a feeling it will directly counter America and its allies.

Im anticipating Kim requesting America remove its troops from the DMZ and when we of course refuse Kim can use that as fodder to show how the west doesnt want peace and revamp his nuclear ambitions guilt free in front of his people

Sounds like you've constructed quite the fairytale based on your misguided assumptions. Good luck with that can't wait to watch it play out.

Sounds like you've constructed quite the fairytale

Says the man who thinks Kim just wants peace because... well no reason he just realized peace is like super chill and stuff bruh

Making more assumptions again. I'm fascinated by your insights into the mind and thinking of a man we actually know very little about.

Im actually really into NK... I think its fascinating.

Im just saying when a country like NK does a 180 without any substance get ready for demands.

Why do you not think we can speculate? Do you normally toe the government line when it comes to politics?

Except the US has made it explicitly clear that if they don’t follow the terms of the deal this time, they will be dealing with our military. NK has no more options.

they will be dealing with our military. NK has no more options.

And then China and Russia will both say "Uh No America"

And we are back at square one.

Why do you think America hasnt intervened militarily yet?

Because we don’t want Kim to nuke South Korea?

But we can’t walk away now. He has nukes and a delivery system. If we have to, we have to but Trump made it clear when he sent the letter to Kim cancelling the summit.

“You talk about your nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive that I pray to God they will never have to be used,” Trump wrote.

Kim came crawling back to the table.

Because we don’t want Kim to nuke South Korea?

Lol NK is a long ways away from miniaturizing a nuke to fit on an ICBM. Not only that but SK has a dozen missile defense systems in place. Shelling would do more damage.

Kim came crawling back to the table.

And we will see what he wants in return for giving up his program

North Korea has consistently wanted peace and a normalization of relations. They have been asking for an end to nuclear war games on their borders for literally decades and offering peace. I get the feeling that you don't know as much about what you're talking about as you think. A constant state of war does not benefit NK as much as your made up version of events implies.

North Korea has consistently wanted peace and a normalization of relations.

Really? Then why kidnap people or threaten nuclear fire against the people you claim they want to be friends with?

They have been asking for an end to nuclear war games on their borders for literally decades and offering peace.

They arent nuclear war games.

I get the feeling that you don't know as much about what you're talking about as you think.

Thats not a very good argument and you know it.

A constant state of war does not benefit NK as much as your made up version of events implies.

It keeps the inner circle in power.

No. I think it's probable that Kim wants to go the way of China and open up to foreign business (especially American) to come in change things in terms of wealth flowing into the country. The way China did. NK could be another cheap labor market just like China.

I would like to see NK open to the world some more, but I have a problem with the fact that Kim is a brutal dictator. That has to change.

The CIA is a brutal dictator

Kim is like a teddy bear

I think he has bren a puppet prince his whole life. Who knows what really goes on there. Well the CIA does I am sure. And they love propping up bogey men to make us afraid.

WMDs any one?

Most definitely was born into the role and didn't have much choice

I'm pretty happy about the recent events for him

Me too. It feels so right to free him and his people from slavery. I hope we have.

Yeah. We paint Kim as some tinpot dictator but the man is incredibly smart. He knows that he's dealing with someone desperate to make a deal, any deal, to score a political win. The US is going to give up the peninsula in exchange for NK shutting down one of its test sites that has already collapsed.

Nice rooting against america

Hoping for failure.

Expecting failure, not hoping for it.

I dunno. Bill Maher is hoping for complete economic collapse despite the fact that half the country is living in poverty.

I’m sure they are hoping that the North Koreans continue to suffer and maybe they will bomb SK!!! That would be great in 2020.

I seriously doubt your interpretation is vaguely correct, and regardless, I'm not Bill Maher.

The President is not America. If I was rooting against America I'd be cheering this trainwreck on.

Less sanctions and recognition on the world stage goes a long way for NK. Not to mention the opportunity to allow US science and medicine to improve the health and lives of the people of NK and thus cementing Kim's legacy in the eyes of his people.

I don't think this is as insidious as you are painting it to be. The economic sanctions that have been out in place have made it very difficult for NoKo to operate at even a basic level. They are having trouble producing enough food for their populace and Kim knows that he needs to do something before there is an uprising.

The sanctions Trump placed against NK are supposedly very damaging and well-enforced, and it sounds like Kim is willing to promise denuclearization to remove them.

The question is what happens when NK inevitably reneges on that deal and if Trump is still President.

We have 3 carrier groups sitting off the coast of Korea. We have B2 bombers with nukes in Guam.

Trump has made it clear that he will rain fire on NK if they don’t follow through.

And that's a bluff that North Korea knows full well they can call. They have sixty million people in Seoul alone within artillery range.

I think you are forgetting that just a few weeks ago, Kim wanted to bow out of the summit because he was upset about the joint military drills (That Trump has now agreed to suspend) and Trump sent Kim a letter cancelling the summit and reminding him that we have a massive nuclear arsenal and it would be ashamed to use it.

What happened?

Kim changed his tune and came back to the table.

Kim doesn’t think it’s a bluff.

You've just given an example of Kim getting Trump to make concessions in exchange for absolutely nothing. That's gonna happen again and on a larger scale.

That's a whole lot of assumptions in one post.

North Korea has consistently wanted peace and a normalization of relations.

Really? Then why kidnap people or threaten nuclear fire against the people you claim they want to be friends with?

They have been asking for an end to nuclear war games on their borders for literally decades and offering peace.

They arent nuclear war games.

I get the feeling that you don't know as much about what you're talking about as you think.

Thats not a very good argument and you know it.

A constant state of war does not benefit NK as much as your made up version of events implies.

It keeps the inner circle in power.