Smart grid opposition?
1 2018-06-19 by ichoosejif
Why aren't more people coming out against smart meters and 5g? Have they not felt the effects? Done any research? It's pure evil and totally dangerous. Where is the anger? Why allow deregulation of these towers? Private land owners leasing land to towers...who's responsible when people are sick and die?
44 comments
1 inb4op 2018-06-19
Ive been fighting against smart meters here in Quebec for several years but they rammed them down our throat with no choice or options. It will be the same thing with the 5g towers. Seems like Europe is the only place that has done testing the effects on wifi signals. Here in Canada they just say it passed their safety test which arent even published from what i was able to find. Best thing to do is move farther out of the city. It seems to be the only option :(
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Already on it. Just don't understand the complacency in the face of such danger.
1 jediintraining_ 2018-06-19
I think it's because people don't know what they don't know. People just want fast internet, they don't pay much attention to the dangers involved. Just as long as they can play their games and stream their Netflix it's all good.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Your training is complete young Jedi.
1 Lyra_Fairview 2018-06-19
You could maybe make a post about why we should be angry at 5G. This is just a bunch of questions that you already know the answers to. I'd be interested in a well written post from you about the effects of 5G, because you sound like you've done a lot of research.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Great idea. I have done exhaustive research. Let me get my laptop.
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
I look forward to your reply... id look into why many european nation are banning cell and wifi.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Because they are micro waves. Literally nuking us. I want to know why I am so sensitive, other than being dissent v. the issue.
I knew the smart meters were bad bc I could feel it. Just dk why I do, and others don't. Toxic metal levels? Feck, I can feel it nuking me.
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
Aye... you know the radiation thrown off by wifi/cellular radiation doez weaken the blood brain barrier. Toxic metals isnt just a random thing to say. Gimme a second and ill source the claim.
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
Wifi radiation increases blood brain barrier permeability
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20550949/
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Right. Chemtrails....are aluminum, barium, and stro...whatever...metals, making us receivers. Feck.
1 Alpinegoatherd 2018-06-19
Who's banning it?
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
Israel france etc etc... google it bro
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
US, is installing 5g towers right over schools. One video I watched, was teachers testimonials, at a school; saying 35 teachers were terminally ill, or died in one year. wtaf???
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
This is where I started. Seems a bit rough, but the guy is'nt lying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c509duCxyhE&list=PLY3WXuU3yq1Mo3XDQ9FUkqpUwhsuPtz8U&t=1778s&index=14 Here's another. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRhISwY42nQ&list=PLY3WXuU3yq1Mo3XDQ9FUkqpUwhsuPtz8U&index=25 This guy is the most comprehensive argument. There are better videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwCyMgTuCpE&index=6&list=PLY3WXuU3yq1Mo3XDQ9FUkqpUwhsuPtz8U Here's more information on the appeal.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDHB8ZUls9M&index=26&list=PLY3WXuU3yq1Mo3XDQ9FUkqpUwhsuPtz8U I wan't to clarify, I DO NOT believe there is no safe place. I ask you to take what makes sense, and leave the rest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2DSKl1ts0w&list=PLY3WXuU3yq1Mo3XDQ9FUkqpUwhsuPtz8U&index=12
Here's the takeaway: whenever I research a topic which has negative effects, I seek solutions once I fully understand the issue. So, there are as many answers as there are problems. I went right to the scientists/doctors/experts, and they included me on their email chain. #powermoves
There's a documentary on power and the Maine Supreme Court is in the first scene. Unfortunately, the MSC ordered FOR CMP....shocker....
Oh, for goodness sakes, I have clearly researched this so far, I can't find certain videos. Here are these for now, and feel free to add more. I don't understand the science of these waves enough to write scientifically about them, but luckily, people are.
So, here's a start, and I will find the rest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UdXvdxz0Qs&list=PLY3WXuU3yq1Mo3XDQ9FUkqpUwhsuPtz8U&index=47&t=2276s
Thanks for listening.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Here's an email I copied from a leading expert on EMF's.
Subject: Roll out of 5G wireless service is 'a massive health experiment,' public health expert warns
The roll out of 5G wireless service is 'a massive health experiment,' public health expert warns as cell companies install 800,000 towers across the US
Natalie Rahhal, Daily Mail, May 29, 2018
Wireless carriers are constructing cell towers a stronger, faster 5G network, but some experts warn that the updated service's health effects are unknown and potentially dangerous.
Today, there are 154,000 cell towers in the US, according to wireless communication association, CTIA. By 2026, it estimates another 800,000 will be needed to support 5G.
The network update will bring more Americans into closer proximity with milimeter waves, very short-wave radiation.
Research on cell phone radiation has yielded mixed findings, but some studies have linked older wireless service generations to cancers of the heart and reproductive organs, and 5G's health effects have hardly been studied.
Wireless providers have begun installing 800,000 'small cell' towers to support the roll out of the new 5G cellular network, but some public health experts warn they may endanger humans.
The new network is slated to support 100 billion devices, connecting to the internet at anywhere between 10 and 100 times the speeds that information travels through the 4G network.
In order to facilitate these speeds, the new network communicates through millimeter waves (MMWs) rather than microwaves, as previous generations have.
The microwave networks are nearly saturated, hence the switch to the virtually untouched, lower frequency MMWs for 5G.
But smaller waves cannot travel as far, or through as many types of materials.
This means that there will need to be far more individual 'small cell towers' closer together - some have suggested they will be on every street corner in the US.
The 5G technology is too new to have been thoroughly tested and studied by many parties outside of cell service providers.
According to Dr Joel Moskowitz, a public health professor at the University of California, Berkeley, MMWs could pose a very real danger.
'The deployment of 5G, or fifth generation cellular technology, constitutes a massive experiment on the health of all species,' he told Daily Mail Online.
Because MMWs are weaker than microwaves, they are predominantly absorbed by the skin, meaning their distribution is quite focused there,
'Since skin contains capillaries and nerve endings, MMW bio-effects may be transmitted through molecular mechanisms by the skin or through the nervous system,' Dr Moskowitz writes on his blog.
He also told Daily Mail Online that he's concerned that '5G will use high-band frequencies, or millimeter waves, that may affect the eyes, the testes, the skin, the peripheral nervous system, and sweat glands.'
'Millimeter waves can also make some pathogens resistant to antibiotics,' he added.
Dr Moskowitz is not alone in apprehensions.
The International Society of Doctors for the Environment, its subsidiaries in 27 countries, and more than 200 doctors and scientists are all calling for a stop to be put to the roll out of 5G, 'due to concern that 5G radio frequency radiation will have adverse health effects,' Dr Moskowitz says.
So far, their warnings have gone unheeded.
Verizon began rolling out their 5G small cell towers in 11 cities 2017, and AT&T started installing the new generation of service in Waco and Dallas, Texas, as well as in Atlanta, Georgia this year.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5784487/The-roll-5G-wireless-service-massive-health-experiment-public-health-expert-warns-a.html
More information:
Scientists and Doctors Demand Moratorium on 5G
5G Wireless Technology: Is 5G Harmful to Our Health? 5G Wireless Technology: Millimeter Wave Health Effects
5G Wireless Technology: Cutting Through the Hype
5G Wireless Technology: Major newspaper editorials oppose "small cell" antenna bills
Cell Tower Health Effects
Joel M. Moskowitz, Ph.D., Director Center for Family and Community Health School of Public Health University of California, Berkeley
Electromagnetic Radiation Safety
Website: https://www.saferemr.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaferEMR Twitter: @berkeleyprc
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Here's a cool blog my 'smart' friends sent me. https://betweenrockandhardplace.wordpress.com/2018/06/10/guest-blog-from-steve-weller-australia/
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Sadly, Dr. Blank passed away this week...but this website is still relevant.
https://emfscientist.org/
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
another, nother blog....
http://www.stopglobalwifi.org/
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Ok, here's a GREAT documentary on smart meters, beginning in Maine Supreme Court. <<Kudos to Chief Justice for asking tough questions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uMfx-FsJiE
1 Slanderson77 2018-06-19
OP, you may enjoy this appeal signed by over 180 scientists and doctors from 35 different countries.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
I do indeed appreciate this appeal. It's nearly irrefutable. Science is intact here. FAA is full of shit like all alphabet agencies. US bought and paid for. I'm wondering if locally we can stop this via town government.
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
I have a post on ask reddit about this very matter. Why are we allowing them to skip the testing and go straight to putting up dozenz of 5g cell towers per square mile of every populated area on the face of the earth? Especially when many nations are banni g wifi and cellular signals in the vi inity of youth? Damn people are dumb.
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1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Can you link it here? I see on r/realestate people are getting solicited to rent land for towers. Gahd damn people, why would anyone think it was a good idea. I got trolled to hell when I responded.
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
Shills. So many shills.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
They flock to me.
1 InfraggableKrunk69 2018-06-19
Also no surprise youre being downvoted by the shill army.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
all ways. look at this jackass.....https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/8rsltk/cell_phone_tower_development_land_lease_proposal/e0w8a6j/?context=3
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1 blueskiesatwar 2018-06-19
I wonder if this smart grid and 5G opposition comes from old phone and cable companies fighting the incoming wave of streaming. I’ve seen it pop up more and more, and it doesn’t seem very organic, like this post.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
How organic does my post need to be? Move on if you don't find it palpable.
1 blueskiesatwar 2018-06-19
You haven’t provided anything valuable here. You’re just touting a bunch of slogans.
1 danKN0W 2018-06-19
Op posted several links in the comment section
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Thank you.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
I have a huge sack of fuck off troll right here, just for you.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
u/blueskiesatwar this comment is for you, as though your trolling was'nt obvious.
1 blueskiesatwar 2018-06-19
So instead of actually discussing your concerns, you throw troll accusations around? These tactics are transparent as hell.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
My concern is that you are an obvious troll, and you're in the wrong neighborhood. Just responding to your ignorance, with more of the same. We see you....so...now what? Are'nt you supposed to be busy redirecting the narrative?
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
This guy tho. Take Back Your Power. Repost from below, but relevant. Good start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uMfx-FsJiE
1 missingthemessage 2018-06-19
What is the harm in 5G?
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
Read/watch links in comments.
1 kenneth616 2018-06-19
why worry? by that time we will be convinced to upload our minds to the hive as our bodies start disintegrating from all possible angles of attack.
1 ichoosejif 2018-06-19
I guess I'm willing to die trying, than live a slave.