Why didn't you mention the media? My opinion is first and foremost not influenced by some commie on tv telling me I'm deplorable.

What group in congress rejected legislation to reverse the rules put in place in 1997?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/democrats-reject-bill-to-keep-families-together-at-border-schumer-says-he-wants-to-keep-focus-on-trump/

Which President continued the policy of placing children in the hands of human traffickers?

https://truepundit.com/report-obamas-hhs-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-media-dead-silent/

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-admin-losing-track-illegal-immigrant-children/

Good thing this issue has been resolved by an executive order after congress failed to act.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/20/white-house-considering-executive-action-to-prevent-family-separations-at-border.html

The real conspiracy theorists see through deception of the media which has been flooding the news with this non-story since it broke on the 15th. We are more concerned with what they are trying to distract from. For example:

https://twitter.com/yahoonews/status/1009540003674943488?s=21

https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8skpm5/rico_summons_clinton_foundation_clintongiustra/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-20/border-dna-tests-sessions-proposes-genetic-testing-determine-biological

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-19/whole-thing-scam-trump-unloads-deep-state-enemies-during-fiery-speech

https://www.rt.com/business/429931-russia-sells-us-treasuries/

https://www.hannity.com/media-room/breaking-james-comey-under-investigation-for-leaking-classified-memos/

https://truepundit.com/report-obamas-hhs-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-media-dead-silent/

Article written from the senate report in 2016. Thousands of children were misplaced by the Department of HHS and given to human traffickers.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Majority%20&%20Minority%20Staff%20Report%20-%20Protecting%20Unaccompanied%20Alien%20Children%20from%20Trafficking%20and%20Other%20Abuses%202016-01-282.pdf

The majority of the children in the “detention centers” are victims of human trafficking. The DOJ has been separating all the children and collect DNA samples to confirm who the parents are. According the the HHS Secretary on Monday at a press conference, more then 4/5 children are victims of trafficking.

Wonder if this is related.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

This would be a lot more credible if EVERY SINGLE LINK you posted wasn't to either a far right infotainment site or reddit itself.

a lot more credible

Are you refuting the argument or just upset it doesn’t have the usual MSM resist bias?

Considering Republicans control the House, senate, White House and Supreme Court, the only place to find out what’s actually happening is on “far right” media.

For example: the comey investigation, the Clinton Foundation investigation, leak investigations, etc.

Free thinkers actually question what the corporate media is telling them what to think, en masse.

Schumer's refusal to lead Democrats to change the CONGRESS-passed legislation shows you what this is really about.

The free thinkers are very much here. We very much look past politics. "Physician, heal thyself," as the saying goes.

You’re partially right.

Good think Trump fixed the “problem” by signing an executive order ending it.

He can sign whatever executive order he wants. However, if the EO is violating a law, the courts will throw it out. Congress needs to address this issue with legislation. Any EO is a temporary fix, and likely unconstitutional.

That is exactly what will happen to the EO. Legislation needs to be passed and they need the Dems support to pass, which Schumer already stated they will block.

The Dems need to keep this issue alive and kicking to have a talking point come midterms.

OP is trying to argue that the workings of the constitution are some vast conspiracy. No, it’s simply just the separation of powers between the 3 branches.

That's me! I'm flattered.

Who knows why Trump does what he does? Half time time I'm sure he's just following orders.

Looks to me like the bad guys got outplayed again!

Trump didnt need Schumer pr anybody else to correct his own mistake. All he had to do was get out a pen and change the policy, which he eventually did. You cant blame this on any ody other than Trump.

Your position that we must be either pro- or anti- Democrat/Republican is indeed the standard binary choice we are supposed to think.

Not at all. I notice the many GOP criminals not running for re-election, or who have already stepped down. The Democrats seem more intransigent on that front right now, however.

Thank you OP for this fact.

This is objectively wrong. It is. There is no denying it. It’s wrong yet many on here are defending it.

You don't like pool, video games and not falling into the hands of the cartels?

http://www.thegazette.com/storyimage/GA/20180614/ARTICLE/180619798/AR/0/AR-180619798.jpg&MaxH=500&MaxW=900

The parents that put them at risk of being raped and murdered in the desert?

Then perhaps the parents shouldn't cross the border ILLEGALLY.

I'm not letting them set my moral compass.

Ummm, where then does a policy that entirely and without reason, separates parents from their children fit on your moral compass?

The parents are committing a crime when they come here illegally. If I rob a bank, then I will be separated from my children too.

Illegal immigration is not immoral, I think bank robbery is.

Making something illegal does not make it immoral, smoking cannabis for example.

But what if I have no money and I'm starving????

Grow your own, hemp seeds are edible, you can turn the plants into fiber for clothing and ropes.

This is objectively wrong. It is. There is no denying it. It’s wrong yet many on here are defending it.

In my opinion, breaking the law and bringing your kids with you when you do it, in hopes of using them as a "get out of jail free" card in case you get caught, is objectively wrong.

Yeah, turn those kids loose in the desert while their parents await trial.

I disagree. The parents broke the law by entering illegally. They are in jail. They have claimed asylum which means that the cannot be deported until and unless their asylum claim is denied. So what do we do in the meantime? We are not going to release these children on their own into the US without a legal guardian, we are not going to deport them without their parents and we are not going to put them in jail with their parents. So the children are housed separately, temporarily, until their parents asylum status is determined. I don't see how that is disproportionate.

When a law is immoral or leads to disproportionately negative consequences, the executive branch has both the authority and the obligation to not enforce that law. Prior administrations have done so in this exact case.

I completely disagree. Selective enforcement of laws is one of the biggest problems with our justice system.

If we cannot humanely enforce a nonviolent offense, then do not enforce that offense. It seems like common knowledge.

What's inhumane about it? CPS takes children from their families if their parents break the law and are arrested. It's not inhumane then. The only difference here is that these children are a political football for the Democrats.

They are not losing their children. They are housed separately because the parents are in jail. When their asylum processing is completed, they will either be released into the US, together, or deported, together. If you think they should be housed together in some sort of detention facility until the asylum process is complete, I think that would be better than the current situation as well, and I hope Trump signs an EO that does it. However, the Democrats don't want that. They may say they do, but what they really want is "catch and release". Both bills they have put forward recently have contained language stating that illegal aliens crossing with children should not be detained at all. A "get out of jail free" card, basically.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

They're coming to get HELP.

It's not like they are planning a bank heist and bringing their kids along...

Then they should do so LEGALLY. Not sneak across the border.

Gimme a break.

And the punishment for this misdemeanor is loosing your child forever? ffs. I guess you probably don't have children. For me I would basically kill whoever I could who took part in kidnapping my child..

We live in a world where only your opponents shit stinks.

This is where the free thinkers have gone.

You're confusing free thinking with morality.

If someone disagrees with your personal stance on the matter they are close minded and only listen to what government tells them?

Whatever you say, bud.

No one here is defending shit. I’m speaking specifically to your claims of this sub having no free thinkers.

But we both know you just want to stand on your soapbox and spout your political views under the guise of “free thinking”.

If that’s all you want to do, take it to r/politics so you can all tell each other how horrible the rest of the population is so you can feel better about yourself. Don’t come in to r/conspiracy tell everyone here they are close minded, government lackeys.

Free thinkers still exist. We're here.

In my opinion, the policy of separating asylum seekers/illegal migrants from their children is meant as a strong deterrent. It is supposed to deter them from jumping borders. They will tell their friends and family so they will think twice before crossing a border. Parents hate to be separated from their children, and vice versa.

It's not supposed to be compassionate. It's meant to deter them!!

Honestly, what is the solution? Anyone who shows up gets a McMansion? I say open borders, people are generally good, but how can it work with this welfare state?

The solution is to stop CREATING immigrants. That's right, most immigrants are created from Wars initiated by mainly the US&Israel.

Stop creating wars, stop exploiting Africa, stop exploiting South America. That is the CORE issue. Fix the CORE.

I agree with you. It’s pretty clear the U.S. has zero respect for anyone else’s borders. It doesn’t change the fact that thousands of men, women and children are showing up on the southern border. Not sure the welfare state, health care, school systems etc. can handle that.

Sure, but my opinion is that until the core issue is fixed, there is a moral obligation to accept the people that show up (who has valid reasons). If the welfare systems can't handle that then they have to be expanded. Everybody seems to assumbe that immigrants just want to sit on their asses and do nothing, but only very few (mentally sick) people actually want to do that. Most people want to work and do something meaningful, so simply train them. It's only political will lacking.

I don't know but Reinhardt kicked it so. Who else here knows Reinhardt? The man who predicted the mini crash?

Not on the internet haha

People are brainwashed by the whole 'immigrant' manufactured 'crisis' (divide&conquer). There is no crisis. Immigrants are not that big a problem anywhere really, and in the US the whole society seems to need them to perform all the shitty work anyway.

Of all the immigrants I have ever met (quite a lot), I am in the EU, they have always been super polite and friendly. Sure gangs exist, but that's not an 'immigrant' issue per se.

People need to stop pretending that immigrants are not people. It's goddam Nazism all over again, this is how it started there, it can easily happen again.

This forum is modern politics now. It is the headquarters of what a base thinks so analysts and political strategists come on here to see where the mood is on a subject, just like Facebook. It sucks balls because it is all partisan bullshit. I posted a couple of weeks ago with this same type issue because I just can't handle all of the pedo child trafficking nonsense. I didn't come back for a couple of weeks and now it is worse than it was then. Just scroll through the new stuff. It is 99% political.

So should these families be moved into the already abysmal affordable housing program or should they just be moved into brand new McMansions? Option B would probably be a quick shot of heroin to the economy.

PS Holy cow! Breaking on MSNBC that sleazeball attorney for Stormy Daniels is now all over the case. This is very slimy. I want the best for these children.

Grow your own, hemp seeds are edible, you can turn the plants into fiber for clothing and ropes.