Columbine shooting conspiracy?

1  2018-06-23 by ShaneE11183386

So I have a question about the columbine shooting. Nowadays you hear about a shooting or bombing and there is always some kind of conspiracy that pops up surrounding it, were or are there any similar events surrounding columbine? I never heard of any and am interested if you guys have. Thanks!

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The 2 guys that did columbine were just angry at the way people treated them as the were kind of outcasts and weren't popular

Yeah I know the backstory but thought someone had to come up with a conspiracy by now, but yeah I think the story is the legit one and no conspiracies involved but was still curious

It's kinda like there aren't rlly any conspiracies to be made unless Hitler survives appoints these 2 young men to kill in the name of Hitler and tries to take over the world again

Well there could be "mk ultra trained assassins to push anti gun and anti Trench coat agenda" haha

im sure there is a way to blame trump in here somewhere

Yeah I’m pretty sure we’ve all heard the mainstream normie summary of what happened, thank you.

Ur camp

That's not true. Dave Cullen wrote a good book about how, despite the press story at the time, the boys were not bullied. According to interviews with students, they were more likely to bully others than be the victim of it.

His book "Columbine" dispels a lot of mistruths and media myths. If you're into the topic, it's a good read.

There was so much evidence available to the public. Videos of them shooting targets, just chilling, their diaries and other online shit, CCTV footage of them literally throwing pipe bombs in the cantene, helicopter footage of 100s of kids running and climbing out of Windows and so much blood, everywhere.

If they faked that shit in the 90's they really went to town and they just cannot be arsed to put that effort in today.

so much blood

Show an image of “so much blood” from Columbine, please, or the best reason to think that anyone was shot.

There was wasnt there? I mean ive not looked at Columbine for years but I'm sure I remember blood in the library and what not? I remember it looking like a massacre?

I'll have a look. Theres nothing I love more on a Saturday morning than looking at the blood of dead school kids. Jokes.

There seem to be images of blood when I search “Columbine blood.” Sometimes you get bogus results with things like that or it’s a photo of some other bloody mess and because someone mentioned Columbine in a comment or description it shows up under that search.

But it seems like there was a “blood-like substance” present. I think there’s something fishy about Columbine but haven’t seen anything convincing or detailed one way or the other.

the school footage was all over the dark web back then, irc chat rooms, etc.

Lmao your post history. You can stop now.

No need to be a little weasel dick about it

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what about it? Care to explain?

Here's a CNN report on Patrick Ireland, who was shot and escaped by falling out of a second story window.

Here's a thread with various images, including the shooter's dead bodies on the library floor, police dragging a wounded kid through the grass, melted chairs from the cafeteria...

Few noteworthy images on this site, one dead kid outside on a sidewalk.

More wounded being treated on the lawn

Video of one victim being dragged to safety

Footage of the shooters in the cafeteria, trying to set off unexploded bombs by shooting them

I will say there USED to be a lot more footage that was easy to find. One of the most standout parts of the Columbine shooting was that there were dead kids broadcast live on the news. It was the first time that blood was clearly visible in a crime scene of the sort. It's quite interesting to look through this thread for example and see how much evidence has been deleted, just in the past year or two.

I feel horrible to say this but why don't we have all this evidence for all the other shootings? I know it happened a long time ago but still

Meanwhile today with the incredible advancement of technology, surveillance and big brother, we get absolutely nothing but live news cameras and a narrative.

Look into Mark Tyler and ex-Sheriff Patrick Sullivan.

It stinks of the usual pedo & mkultra activity.

Ok thanks

Have you seen the video of “emergency workers” dragging a dummy around outside the school? There was a drill scenario occurring of some sort.

Nope sounds interesting though

Wow wtf?

And again, as I searched for that video on YouTube for the first time in a long time, I just saw that while there used to be many forms of it this was the only one I could find now and it was partially buried under a lot of other search results when I searched “Columbine dummy.” It’s being subjected to the same censorship that videos exposing staged terror events are subject to now.

That's crazy, was there any legit reason anyone mentioned for this?

There is video of the columbine shooters killing themselves.. we have never gotten the satisfaction of an active shooter situation where we get to see them actually kill them selves

Not true

does it take two people to drag a dummy? Looks like a person to me

Thank you for the “Snopes perspective.”

In my experience EMS workers don’t carelessly drag dead and wounded people around for no reason.

One cop had just hid from fire it seemed, so they we're likely dragging whatever it was human or not out of fire or danger.

Dragging a dummy out of danger?

According to you apparently; I am personally of the opinion that it was human.

how many active shooter events have you been present in?

Same as you, none.

great, so your above statement is meaningless

That’s a person.

No, it’s absolutely not.

Yes, it absolutely is.

Prove it is a person, identify which person it is, and then explain why in this case EMS workers decided to carelessly drag around a maimed or dead body.

Prove it’s a dummy?????

It looks exactly like a dummy and a real body or injured person would never be dragged around like that by healthcare professionals.

Perhaps they had it there so officers could train on it quickly in case they had to do it for real when the kids were coming out. And then they moved it when the kids all came out. Idk just guessing

Dummies don’t have arms that go limp like the person being dragged in this video. It’s a person, an unconscious person.

Dummies don't have limp arms? Are you a dummy?

Dig a bit deeper in my post history. I’ve been posting here for a long time. If you’re attempting to call me a shill, tread lightly. That’s a bannable offense here, son.

Also, prove it’s a dummy.

Never fails, I call a person out for never posting here and they say "I've been posting here a lot!"

I said posts, not comments. You have zero (0) conspiracy posts. I didn't say "comment" did I? It's not the same, at all, despite your attempt to deflect this you're not an active member here and it's unclear which, if any, conspiracy theories you subscribe to.

I don't have to prove it's a dummy. That's what it looks like. That's what it's being treated like. That's what it most likely is.

Okay, fine. I don’t have to post shit to contribute to a subreddit. You can be an active member without posting shit. What conspiracy theories do I subscribe to? The government’s role in 9/11, JFK assassination, and UFO coverups.

You know. Actual theories. Not ones about fake mass shootings because you have a hard on for protecting the second amendment.

So you think that 20 children got shot at Sandy Hook, for example? That man landed on the moon, 19 Arab Muslims flew planes into buildings, and there's little green space aliens sitting in a government tank somewhere. And you are qualified to designate which are "actual theories."

In order of the questions asked:

  1. yes
  2. yes
  3. yes, but the government knew about it ahead of time
  4. yes

Are you done gatekeeping yet?

Yeah, I've heard enough, cooldad420, thank you.

Glad we could come to an agreement! Have a good day!

the moment you get called a gatekeeper, you stop gatekeeping. Hmmmm makes ya think, don’t it? really activates the almonds. 🤔🤔🤔

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ok so with your knowledge of first responder proceudre, please list the correct way one should move a body of unknown injury a few feet. go ahead

What's the best latke recipe?

so is that you admitting that you just made all of that up and have no idea what you're talking about?

Doesn't seem weird to me. Those dummies aren't a weird thing to have around an ambulance or fire truck. They had it thrown out on the ground, kids ran by, then they drug it off to the side. If they were trying to act like it was a victim you'd think they would have at least acted like they were treating her and not just left her there, nonchalantly walking off. The only person who suggests or even acts like it's not a dummy is the dumbass newscaster who suggests it's a victim even as they just kind of leave it on the ground and walk off.

That said, I remember hearing about a 3rd kid being involved. He was either a dropout or had already graduated and several students reported seeing him at school that day. Iirc a few even said they had seen him shooting them.

I think if Columbine were done now days we'd have some very different stories out of it than what we have now.

"Doesn't seem weird to me," declared the random interloper who isn't a conspiracy theorist and who has only ever posted to r/The_Donald.

You're a dumbass. I post on here all of the time.

You have zero (0) conspiracy posts and clearly don't comment enough to be familiar with the subreddit rules.

Scroll back through my comments. Just looking through my last 30 or so like 25 have been on here. So I don't create new topics here. Is that a requirement to join the discussion now? Or is possible someone just disagrees with you on something and rather than consider it might just be a dumbass reporter you instantly just have to go with,"nope, I'm right, must be a shill."

Wow, you leaked over from T_D to comment in some threads about illegal immigrants. You also think 19 Arab Muslims did 9/11. Check you out.

Wow, someone comments on things that are specific to their interests. How suspicious.

He’s trying to call people shills, without saying it outright. Because you can get banned for that. Kind of funny if you look at it like that.

I know what he's doing and it's hilarious. People may disagree with what I say here or agree and I've had more than one comment downvoted to oblivion but a shill? That's pretty rich.

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You're right. Didn't even think about it. Just instinctually reacted to the post. Apologies.

I done heard the 3rd kid thing. Supposedly it was the son of a sheriff.

Haha, 8 gunshot wounds and no blood on the grass.

Haha, dragging a person with spinal injuries without immobilizing him first.

Haha.

No. Also the photos of Kliebold and Harris are rather graphic. Everything else looks like nothing that could be easily and cheaply staged. The problem with that video is the obvious question of why they wouldn’t simply walk up the stairs and get that guy rather than having him clumsily flop out of a window and risk breaking his neck.

That it was Marilyn Mansons fault

Lol that's what made me make this post! I was just looking into the shooting randomly then I saw marilyn manson said the shooting destroyed his career

Haha blame anyone but the shooters

Yeah everyone always focuses on everything but the shooter. Violent video games, violent music how about the people could have just been insane hah

Dont forget the video games.

I don't know if you're a fan of podcasts but "Those Conspiracy Guys" did a near 6 hour podcast on the topic. Coincidentally it's from a year ago, tomorrow: 6/24/17.

reports of more than two shooters + a load of strange stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFKzgG0Inw8

Columbine happened on Hitler's birthday.

Pot smokers have a big celebration every year on Hitler's birthday. Coincidence?

That's amateur night....just like New Years for the alcoholics

The two fake shooters were high achieving students that were very heavily involved in their schools film program. Both were weeks away from graduating high school. When you see them wearing leather jackets acting like weirdos, its bc they were acting for a film they were working on The film was their senior project. Their senior project was the fake shooting. They were not trench coat mafia. The were Jewish film students. They aren't dead, they are living in Israel. The video you see from inside the cafeteria is a MOVIE. Watch closely and you'll notice that the cafeteria students are staged. They are acting. Nobody died. The suicide picture is impossible. One of the fake shooters is laying on top of the other fake shooter but the fake suicide blood doesn't make sense.

Also, police dragged a dummy across the lawn in front of the police helicopter for maximum effect. Look up columbine dummy. It was not a body of a victim or a shooter. The way the police were handling the fake body would have been considered mutilation of a corpse, or something similar.

The school shootings are fake just like Muslim terrorism is fake. At first it is somewhat refreshing realizing that you won't get shot at school or blown up at a sporting event. Then you realize that America actually does have a terrorism problem. All made possible by the deep state and its Jewish media

If you would like to know more about terrorism and how it got its roots in Israel with the Lukid party, watch Christpher Bollyn Making Sense of the War

Where did you get this info about them not being trench coat wearing weirdos?

This super secret resistance group that meets underneath the bridge on Saturdays.

I don't recall a specific video. If you research the fake shooters it becomes clear they weren't burn out losers. They were popular smart students. They had no motive to end their own lives weeks before graduation. Why would they work as hard as they did at school just to kill themselves right before graduation

Does anyone know the name of the kid who was at Columbine who said he was shot by a police sniper ? I believe he is now a paraplegic.

Wow thank you

There's not really any conspiracy theories about Columbine, because there's so much evidence proving that it happened. Basement tapes, Autopsy reports, video evidence of the shooters in the school, etc.

A user named /donttreadonme16 made this post

"Holy hell, so after just a few minutes of looking more into the Lobotomized by Drugs story. Aparently it's a theory involving the Columbine shooters, and how they were raped by the police months before the shooting, and they tried desperately to cover it up? And then some guy named Mark Taylor tried to blow the whistle about it, and was arrested on BS charges and institutionalized. Even the county Sheriff was arrested and convicted for a sex-for-meth sting operation??? WTF?

There's a metabunk article about it that I'm just diving into now, with something about hand drawings that match google maps pictures, idk.

Whole new rabbit hole to me, and I've only just started looking deeper into it. Just thought I'd share with everyone else, see if other people have some sources or more information about this conspiracy theory.

Sure would love to see that Youtube video documentary they talk about...

Edit: Favorite line from the article about the county Sheriff:

Sullivan had a storied law enforcement career and was named Sheriff of the Year by the National Sheriffs’ Association in 2001.

In 1989, the sheriff drove a Jeep through the fence of an Arapahoe County home to rescue two deputies and a wounded 17-year-old boy who had been taken hostage by a rape and murder suspect armed with a machine gun.

Sullivan was a nationally expert on cyberterrorism and other law enforcement issues. He participated in a statewide meth task force in 2000.

...seriously? Rather than call stories like these into question, you bring them up as an excuse to praise this psychopath for his past "work" in "law enforcement"? The guy who smoked meth was put in charge of a meth task force, and was accused of raping young teenage boys also helped "rescue" 17 year old rape hostages? Are you shitting me?!"

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:r6YQoUp37mYJ:https://www.denverpost.com/2011/11/29/ex-arapahoe-county-sheriff-sullivan-accused-of-dealing-meth-trying-to-trade-it-for-sex/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

https://www.metabunk.org/mark-taylor-conspiricy.t1179/

Wow, you leaked over from T_D to comment in some threads about illegal immigrants. You also think 19 Arab Muslims did 9/11. Check you out.

Wow, someone comments on things that are specific to their interests. How suspicious.

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