Milo Yiannopoulos::Annapolis, Maryland. Milo says (paraphrased) "I can't wait until they start going after journalists," then a couple days later someone targets a newspaper.
1 2018-06-29 by Didymos_Black
Now, I think Milo's an ass and I don't agree with many of his positions, but that's a helluva coincidence.
What do you think, /r/conspiracy? Is it a coincidence that probably the only city that can come close to being an anagram for Milo's name has its newspaper targeted right after making inflammatory comments to journalists (after brilliantly trolling them)?
Will this be used to attempt to silence Milo? Is there any kind of connection at all?
72 comments
1 REAPEROFDAKARMA 2018-06-29
This is lame.. the guy had a beef with the newspaper long before this Milo story...
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
So, you believe it's simply a coincidence?
I haven't actually had much time to dig into the story. This is exactly the discussion I was looking for.
Regardless of whether the guy had a beef previously, could Milo's words have influenced him? Even if the guy never says that, will the MSM pick up on that and run with it?
1 REAPEROFDAKARMA 2018-06-29
How would you even know the guy heard about the Milo story before going in ? he's not talking.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
You might not, but since when has that stopped the "news" from telling a story that serves them?
1 ClassicFives 2018-06-29
Yes but why act now instead of the last like 6 years?
Couldn’t be the president, multiple Congress people, other members of the press daily calling the news fake or for people to shut them up. Nahh. Couldn’t be.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
It could be. But it could be coincidence. The follow up question is regardless of motivation, will the MSM use it for A. gun control debate, B. targeting a specific politician or Trump, or C. targeting other critics of the MSM (such as Milo)?
Or will it be used to distract from some other news that out there but not being reported?
1 ClassicFives 2018-06-29
Personally I don’t care nor do I think it matters for the first three if the shooter was inspired by them or not.
Their statements show they support the actions or idea behind them. Their words should be used against them. If you don’t mean something, don’t say it.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
Because the gun control debate is not really a debate. And like you said, where's the solution to gun control that could have prevented this? I personally feel that even if all guns were illegal, there would still be a similar amount of gun crime. The U.S. has an attitude problem with itself, toward violence, and toward the value of human life. (Ironically, I'm pro-choice and don't see that as part of the problem of valuing human life, but a symptom of a society afraid to discuss sex and imposes values about the utility of sex and procreation vs. pleasure, and the unwillingness of a nanny generation to properly inform their children of sex, the consequences, and prophylactic measures to be used to actually plan when you have children and prevent STIs.)
1 macronius 2018-06-29
Because bad people are psychically connected throughout the world, just as good ones are as well. It all has to do with subconscious energetic frequencies.
1 Entropick 2018-06-29
Archons.
1 Riggedit 2018-06-29
Basically, there are two sides to every coin. Which everyone will find out sooner or later.
1 vannucker 2018-06-29
Milo activated him.
1 Herculius 2018-06-29
It was also privately sent to the journalist in response to a question. It was a personal troll that the journalist published themselves.
1 AtheismTooStronk 2018-06-29
They asked him for a comment, right?
1 AlleganySmallmouth 2018-06-29
That's not private. Also a "troll" what is the guy 13 years old?
1 Drooperdoo 2018-06-29
Wow! You really think Milo Yiannopolous is that influential?
The shooter had been fighting with the newspaper since 2012 and you're trying to make Milo the cause of the attack because of an (unheard) comment he made two days ago?
Do you have any evidence that the shooter even knows who Milo Yiannopolous is?
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
SS: Milo Yiannopoulos::Annapolis, Maryland
After making inflammatory comments about people targeting journalists and trolling journalists by creating a false story he knew they would jump on like flies on shit, journalists are targeted in the only US city that comes close to being an anagram for his name. Will this be used as an attempt to silence him since he angers the MSM at every turn?
(I don't personally like Milo and subscribe to different views, but I still find this suspicious and interesting, so please no hate if you love Milo or don't, this is about the possibility of conspiracy, not the subject's politics.)
1 Human_with_Brain 2018-06-29
I can certainly see the left going after Milo again, in the current climate of hysteria.
But the narrative for this story is that an individual with a history of bad behavior and who had a big grudge against the organization did this.
I can’t see Milo taking heat for this one.
1 LeftOfTheDials 2018-06-29
It's too much of a coincidence for me.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
I don't personally believe in coincidence.
1 shassamyak 2018-06-29
Say something about Hillary's coincidences,any of them.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
Why? I'm trying to stay on topic. I don't believe in coincidences. I'm also not a Hillary supporter, or a Trump supporter. Obama left as bad a taste in my mouth as Bush II.
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
This is a huge stretch for me. The gunner had past problems with the news agency he shot up. He gave several warning signs out side of milo. Milo is irrevelant. No one knew he called for whatever unless you soecifically hang on his every word. Which no one does.
I dont think inciting violence is okay. But unless there is some deep mkultra stuff going on (which im not excluding, i just dont think its likley) then this is a disgrunteld man who tried to take care of his buisness.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
I was thinking MKUltra is one possibility, but as I said below, it may be used to criticize or pontificate regardless of any connection to Milo or anyone else?
Do you think that's a likely outcome?
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
You are going to need something to pontificate about. The problem is that this case is pretty air tight. I am happy to critize and pontificate.
The shooter was on twitter. He made his feeling clear, was he following milo? Or do we have any indication he cares what milo said?
I remeber he did speak out about the Capitol News agency about an ongoing dispute with them. He said something like, "i wish so and so is going to be there tomorrow when i get my retrubition."
Was he x military? Was he around any MkUltra stuff?
Do we have anything at all to suggest he listened to milo or had a connection to the military or cia or fbi?
I am happy to critize and pontificate. I just have nothing other than MSN misdirection.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
These are all good questions.
I submit that even if there is no connection, it will be used against Milo and others for purely political and ratings (financial) purposes.
If it bleeds, it leads. And one man's tragedy is an opportunity for the MSM to profit from more ad revenue.
1 throwawaytreez 2018-06-29
I mean, he had past problems, but what caused him to decide to bring a gun there this time?
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
You dont understand why a person who thinks some one else is ruining their life would go kill the people he thinks are responsible?
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
I think most people are not of the mindset that killing someone who you are in conflict with is a rational solution to the problem. It's why so few people sympathize with murderers. That's not to say there aren't many who do, but they are still in the minority.
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
Rational? It certianly ends the origional problem. And thinking something is rational or not rational has nothing to do with anything. The fact is that it happens ALL THE TIME. To think you can push and push and push an unstable person again and again and again is just stupid. I have heard a lot of, "sorry, i cant do anything about that" from people in my life.
I keep on thanking the lord for them. I am rational, and i enjoy a lot of things more than i enjoy jail.
Here are some people who dont give a fuck:
This is in the US, gang related
This woman's perfect life was ruined by her husbands infedility, guess how she handeled it?
This husbands wife disagreed with him about something
Some black peoppe felt like their life was wronged or some kind of buisness gone bad for X
This poor young man diddnt takes anyone else life but his own, but when a humans is feeling such dire circumstances, it is easy to turn that pain on other people
To sit there and say shit like "rational" or right and wrong just dosent fucking matter when you push people so hard they feel death is their only option.
How about the system stop trying to get its dick so fucr up the ass of the people its fucking. Maybe just crown it a bit. No need to shove it all the way in.
Otherwise, you produce people like this.
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1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
You don't have to get mad about it. That's what TPTB want. If we start mudslinging at each other, we don't recognize or accept what we have in common.
I will concede most of your points, but it doesn't really happen all that more often than it did when I was a kid in the 80s. Information is instant now, and death and destruction sell. It's a sickness. But anyway, you know as soon as it happens, and everyone everywhere can know at the same time.
It's like hanging out on social media. When I was a kid, I came home, watched cartoons, did homework, went outside to play, ate dinner, went back outside. Now kids come home from school and have homework, but they spend the rest of the night on games, social media, or youtube. If they go outside, they're on their phones. Completely inundated with information every waking minute.
I never spent that much time giving a shit about other people's opinions and stories when I was young, or even into adulthood until I got my first smart phone around 2008. If I cared what someone thought about something, I would call them. Now you get everyone's unsolicited opinion in a constant news feed on twitter, reddit, and facebook. At least with reddit I can decently filter who and what I want to see.
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
I do not have much to say to this other than i dont disagree.
Tptb do want us to be focusing in on eachother.
But going out side is a devils dance now and days. You dont which preist is going to rape your daughter. Or which coach is gonna rape your kids. Or which cop is going to murder you on the side of the road. Although my background and where i live makes that unlikley.
And i think kods spend a lot more time outside than you think. This younger generation is getting a lot more human interaction than people give them credit for and they all appear to be on the same page.
1 throwawaytreez 2018-06-29
No I don't understand why he waited 6 years to do it. It's just really odd timing.
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
Do you know more behind the story? I dont know what his alleged reason for retribution was. I also noticed he diddnt appear to get the person he was going after.
1 throwawaytreez 2018-06-29
The paper ran a story about him being a crazy, violent stalker, and he sued them. He lost the suit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5899859/Woman-stalked-Annapolis-shooter-say-warned-police-5-years-ago-mass-shooter.html
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
So that is the story? Crazy stalker guy gets ass handed to him in court and waits 5 years to shoot up the place?
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-06-29
Let's remember, Milo is someone that thinks relationships between 12 year old boys and grown men is not only normal, but beneficial.
He's been a leader in the "alt-right" movement which has allowed the media to portray anyone even slightly on the right look like racist ass holes.
And now this.
If you ask me, it looks like he's nothing more than controlled opposition, who VERY LIKELY is involved with (or at the very least knows about) any kind of big pedo organization/support groups, and knows people involved. With the arrest of that 22 year old pedophile that worked with the UN and shit yesterday... this all seems too perfect for TPTB.
Maybe he's helping to create not just a distraction from the intense backlash that Maxine Waters' comments have been receiving from the public, but a weapon that the left can use against people on the right, and even President Trump directly for "being mean" to the media (who lie just as much as he does, but we're supposed to forget about that).
This can allow them to attempt to further silence views they don't like, because they can claim that they are responsible for American deaths. They can claim that talking shit on the media is dangerous.
Combine all this with the fact that posts like this in r/conspiracy, with 74 votes (aka clearly not a FP post) experiences voting patterns that make you forget where you are because it looks like r/politics or r/news (aka HARD vote brigading), and you get an event that should be called into question by every critical thinking human being in the world.
There's no such thing as coincidences.
The power structure is losing it's grip, and we are watching it go down in real time. Expect to see desperate measures attempted. And don't fall for their bull shit.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
I really like this comment.
I actually get this same feeling about Ann Coulter. It's like, let's bring out the court jesters to distract from the nasty shit we took on the lawn.
I also think that both Coulter and Yiannapolis are narcissistic as shit and get off on any and all attention, making them perfect for the role.
1 PuzzleheadedBiscotti 2018-06-29
Milo is not relevant enough for the 'left' to use this against him to stage a 'false flag.' However, you better believe that this will come back to bite him, as it should. There is no need to call for violence, especially from a man this petty.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
But did he really? He claims he was being sarcastic. It's hard to tell though because he's such a smarmy asshole.
1 PuzzleheadedBiscotti 2018-06-29
It is funny he was claiming he was sarcastic after this event; like that is going to cover his ass.
As the saying goes, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
This strikes at the "words matter" thing for me. Sure, you can toss word salad out there and people will be like "ooooh, that's deep" when it's really meaningless drivel. Grammar matters, presentation matters. If you're a public speaker, learn to fucking speak in a manner that your entire audience will understand.
This double-speak in politics, and dog-whistle shit is cowardly as fuck. But for Milo, I think he's such a narcissist and nihilist and probably feels a bit invulnerable with the money he's making, to give a shit about what most people who hear him think.
1 PuzzleheadedBiscotti 2018-06-29
He won't feel invulnerable if there is any link back to him via the shooter.
1 WudWar 2018-06-29
Milo said that in a private message. If anyone is responsible it's the journalists that put what he said out there.
1 PuzzleheadedBiscotti 2018-06-29
You're blaming the journalists now for their own deaths? I feel like that is a poor argument.
1 WudWar 2018-06-29
Oh sweet summer child, surely you don't believe the same journalist that were shot are the ones that outed Milo's statement?
1 -Mopsus- 2018-06-29
imagine giving a comment to journalists when they ask you to comment for a publication and then asking, "Why did you publish my comment?!?!?!? This is your fault!!! I bear no responsibility for this!"
Journalists publish the "piss off" responses all the time.
1 AlleganySmallmouth 2018-06-29
The journalist asked for a quote to publish so the reply is definitely not private. Milo should know that he did pretend to be a journalist
1 6GorillionLies 2018-06-29
Did you go after the Bernie supporters when one of theirs shot up a Republican baseball game? Are you hounding Maxine Waters after telling everyone to attack any Trump supporters and staff and to not let them have a moment's peace or be allowed in restaurants or public spaces? Milo doesn't know this shooter, didn't tell him personally to do anything and there's no link that this person is right or left leaning at this time to say if he even follows Milo or would be influenced by some no name. The man has a legitimate grudge against this group and lost defamation cases and based on his history is likely unhinged to begin with.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
I'm not going after Milo supporters. This is a straw man. Re-read my post and submission statement.
I think Maxine Waters is off her fucking rocker and should retire. She sounds like a klansman. And I think most of the Left (which I was part of until a couple years ago) feels like they're accomplishing something when their methods now are only making things worse (for those who are more than mere "slacktivists", which is also why I largely abandoned facebook).
Bernie has always maintained an anti-violence stance. Violent "Bernie-backers" aren't representative of Sanders, and he doesn't want those people backing him.
1 MM1PRDCR1 2018-06-29
Bad bad timing for Milo. I like Milo a lot. I know you are supposed to say “I don’t like Milo BUT...”
Well, I think the guy is super entertaining & right about a lot of things. The thing is he has a dry sarcastic sense of humor which is a no go these days. Humor is out the window @ the moment from most liberals & conservatives.
Anyway, between getting perm. banned on twitter & now this? This will come & go. Obviously, this is a coincidence, but bad bad timing.
Lol 😂 Poor Milo can’t catch a fucking break these days
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
I don't mind that you like Milo. I can see the appeal for some. You do you. If we can't have a civil discussion, then we have more work to do on ourselves before attempting said discussion.
1 Born2Memes 2018-06-29
How about you actually pay attention to the incident and research before you make stupid comments?
The shooter had stalked a woman at the Gazzette and had had a defamation lawsuit against them thrown out in 2012. It was clearly personal.
1 throwawaytreez 2018-06-29
But why did he decide to do this 6 years later?
1 Born2Memes 2018-06-29
Because his dad was NSA and damning news about the FBI's anti-Trump e-mails came out yesterday.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
How about you read the post and SS again than pipe tf down? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8ut5iy/milo_yiannopoulosannapolis_maryland_milo_says/e1hwb8a/
Whether or not Milo bears any responsibility is not the issue, will it be used against him? And it's a hell of a coincidence either way.
1 morkman100 2018-06-29
Be objective.... if someone messaged you and said that people in your profession should suffer the fate of vigilante justice, would you assume it's a "prank" or "troll" or see it as a threat, or at least implied threat?
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
Milo's not just someone. He talks out his ass all the time. Taking the piss, I think the brits call it? But the MSM treats him like he's got this dangerous army of white supremacist followers behind him.
If Milo, or any comedian, said "I can't wait until they start shooting people in IT..." I would completely understand. I also wouldn't take them seriously.
Comedy is punching up. Are you seriously saying that Milo is punching down when he criticizes the media in the manner he does (regardless of how tasteless or puerile the method)?
1 morkman100 2018-06-29
He didn’t say this in an article or blog post or interview. He messaged it to one specific person.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
Yeah, he made the private comments to journalists, who then reported them. Didn't seem too worried about those private words when they were publishing their clickbait. I wonder if anyone thinks those reporters bear any responsibility, since his words would not have otherwise been public.
1 morkman100 2018-06-29
So Milo threatened a reporter directly and in private, the reporter made the threat public, and in your mind the threatened reporter bears some responsibility?
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
Milo wasn't threatening the reporter. That's not a threat. Learn the language. He did not make the reporter report those words.
It's stupid, but not let's pretend the Milo is in the least bit threatening even if he does call himself a "dangerous faggot."
1 Retroplayer74 2018-06-29
Milo said this in a DM to a journalist interviewing him. He was being typically snarky with a journalist. It was a private comment. Nobody other than the one person he said it to would have ever heard it had the person (who was trying to hurt him) had not broadcast it.
Therefore, if the shooter heard it and it inspired him to do what he did, he would have had to be a follower of the journalist that reported the private comment. They would have had to have heard it from them, not Milo.
I think it is a fair suggestion to tell you to research before posting, because if you had, you would have known that Milo never even said this publicly.
1 BrettLefty 2018-06-29
Maybe Milo really did inspire this psycho, either because psycho idolizes Milo, or because psycho hates Milo and wanted him to be blamed. Obviously could be (and probably is) neither.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-06-29
Who cares if he did?
The left will be the first to tell you that freedom of speech doesn't include freedom from consequences.
1 Abe_Vigoda 2018-06-29
Fuck that guy and fuck anyone who buys into this cult of personality bullshit.
That guy is a troublemaking asshole who does it for the money. He gets paid to talk a bunch of shit and you're probably dumber if you listen to him.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
That's a pretty valid opinion, but it's more useful to try to understand why someone likes a personality you find vile, rather than assuming a lack of intelligence.
We all experience the world from a subjective perspective. After all, the Jackass movies made money even though they fully embraced that they were jackasses. I was quite surprised at the audience those guys reached, even to the point where I couldn't understand why some of my friends and acquaintances who were fairly intelligent like them.
1 notnotmildlyautistic 2018-06-29
Blaming speech for someone else's crazy actions seems dangerous.
1 Didymos_Black 2018-06-29
Agreed. If all it takes is for someone to casually suggest something for you to go do that thing, you weren't really waiting for someone to suggest it.
1 DJPhilos 2018-06-29
Lol. He is super funny.
1 -Mopsus- 2018-06-29
Telling people they deserve to die is not "brilliant" trolling lol.
1 AFuckYou 2018-06-29
You dont understand why a person who thinks some one else is ruining their life would go kill the people he thinks are responsible?