Obama and the democrats not beholden to israel exposed this all in 2015. The deep state then pushed this and got trump elected to act like they were fighting the deep state. Comet Mueller Trump are all theater.

I think that is one desperation driven, leap over a chasm too deep and too wide to span.

Right? It's not like Comey admitted it under oath before congress, or anything...

Oh.

https://youtu.be/RL7AjFiRarY

Why not use c-span for the testimony when youtube usually means, altered and edited.

And that was after Trump had fired Comey for not agreeing to stop the Flynn investigation.

So how can you translate that to Comey created the investigation?

So how can you translate that to Comey created the investigation?

Because that is exactly what Comey said to Congress. He literally said that he gave the memos to a friend to publish in the news in order to get a special counsel.

Why didn't you just watch the video? It's literally a video of Comey talking and and answering your question.

He didn't drum up Russigate, Session's had already recused himself and Flynn had already gone into his plea bargin.

You and I are done here. You have already demonstrated that you aren't going to argue in good faith when you failed to look at the evidence I presented and asked a question that was answered right in the evidence I presented.

Goodbye.

But he was a private citizen at that point, correct?

On this website, you will see the Trump agenda front and center. You will find daily and weekly updates straight from White House sources

A quote from the About Section of the website’s owner who spends the first two paragraphs talking about how much he enjoyed working on the Trump campaign. This is partisan politics

Nah. Trump just colluded with Russian bankers and politicians, and has the tax returns to prove it. He even askes them to hand over documents they hacked in an attack against US citizens on live television.

You voting for Jill is basically saying "Hi Guys! I'm angry and really okay with having the country run by a delusional sociopath!"

Seriously....if you voted Jill Stein you have less capacity for reasoning then those who voted for Trump.

At least Trump is grounded enough in reality to vaccinate his kids.

Jill would have disrupted the pattern?

How?

By receiving 2% of the vote, and largely appearing as incapable by 90% of the US population?

Thats a very strange strategy for change. Maybe you could expand your explanation to include tangible reality.

You actually dont know that the election was rigged.

We vote by means of a ballot or caucus. Those votes are counted. You throwing away yours does not mean the others are invalid - thats not how democracy works.

What has been effective in Washington in the last decade?

Largely when the younger crowd actually votes for change instead of throwing their votes away on people who they know cant and won't win, establishing a foothold in the status quo to allow themselves to absolve themself of the personal responsibility inherent in the words demos (people) kratos (power) demo-cracy.

Thats been so effective that 50% of the population doesnt do it because some damn fools told them it "wasnt effective".

Get them to vote - that'd be effective.

You honestly played yourself here buddy.

They were all played? By whom?

The American voters?

I certainly think there was corruption within the election. But I do not believe the election itself, the votes, were rigged. I believe, instead, and specifically that peoples minds were rigged. Whether they vote or not is up to them. They should use their votes in order to maintain them.

Ideologies will always fail when they encounter practical application.

Thats why discussion, and a sensible voting body are required. Blanket ideology is not a way to live. Thats why we have a system of checks and balances.

You have to vote for them.

Ideologies fail because they become rigid and incapable of change, by their nature. But everything else around them changes. In the same way buildings collapse in an earthquake, rigid structures do not handle the passage of time as well as flexible microcosms.

Lol, why then is there no evidence despite an 18 month investigation?

You mean the overwhelming evidence that Trump, manafort, sessions were in contact with and meeting with the russians selling information hacked from the accounts of US citizens? If he has nothing to hide, then youbhave nothing to fear from an investigation. But Mueller is draining the swamp.

Lol, if there is overwhelming evidence then where are the charges on Trump?

There is no evidence. I already know I have nothing to fear.

You have nothing to fear? Of course you have nothing to fear, boy! You have nothing to fear from national defense. You would inly have to be afraid if YOU were colluding with foreign governments to commit avts of war against US citizens. But there is plenty of evidence. Its funny how Trump believes you are SOOOOOO stupid that when he says "Russia says they didnt do it!" that you'll actually believe him.

Lol.

He believes that! But hes also right!

Unfortunately you are the one that is stupid.

The post above is obviously referring to Trump collusion, not interference from a foreign government. Zero evidence of collusion after 18 months of a high powered investigation. So I don’t believe there was collusion, or Trump would have been charged already.

I’m not saying there wasn’t minor interference by the Russian government, but lets be completely serious - the US has meddled in literally hundreds of elections around the world, including those of its so called allies. It even proudly bragged in Time magazine how they worked to get Boris Yeltsin elected.

So the hysteria around acts of war etc. sound pathetic.

Argument starts with "hur dur Yew are the one that is stooped!" Argument error occurred. Please standby for while we resolve the issue. TL:DR - didnt read.

Your argument is weak, you rambled a whole heap of shit that wasn’t relevant to anything that was previously posted.

You finish with calling me stupid and attack me for doing the same.

Seeing as how you aren’t real good at this I’ll make it simple....

If Trump is guilty of the collusion in which you blindingly believe, please show me (and Muller while you are at it) the evidence or fuck off.

Oh no. I didnt call you stupid. Trump said his supporters are so stupid that he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and they would still support.

Is he not correct?

Don't worry, let the justice system run its course. If he's guilty, then they'll find out. If not, then nothing will happen.

You sound like you believe he is guilty even more than I do.

But Trump said you were stupid, not me.

Are you saying that Trump was lying when he said you were too stupid to ever disagree with him, or do you think he is wrong? If you believe he was wrong, then you must disagree, which means you arent stupid. But then he's wrong. Or lying. Or do you agree?

So do you think that unless there are charges against Trump there was no interference on the part of a foreign government?

Interfernce of a foreign government and collusion are too very different things.

Sure they are but the actual order says "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)."

Trump just colluded with Russian bankers and politicians

Which crime are you accusing him of, and which (name names) bankers and politicians are you accusing him of 'colluding' with?

and has the tax returns to prove it.

My sides!

asked them to hand over documents they hacked in an attack against US citizens on live television.

Lmao, cracking a stale reddit joke during a debate is the best you've got. Only a male feminist could be this oblivious.

But imagine attacking US defense in order to cover up working with a foreign nation to attack Americans? That's treason.

Good thing that's never happened.

You can't prove that it never happened. But asking which crime I'm accusing him of?

Maybe read the fucking constitution. You type an awful lot but have zero information. The crime would indeed by conspiring to commit cyber attacks against US citizens (20 years), obstruction of justice, perjury, and then treason.

And it wasnt cracking a stale reddit joke, and it wasnt during a debate. Again, you seem to experience very little of the objective reality, which makes you and everything you say delusional. Point to the debate in which he asked that? You are completely incorrect.

But to say only a male feminist could be this obvious? You have SO little truth to fall back on that you have to use a stale reddit joke in your debate? Fucking loser.

You can't prove that it never happened.

The tortured logic of a male feminist. Advancing a double negative as your rhetorical opener. That's a bold strategy.

The burden of proof is on you to prove that it did happen. Rather than do that, or even specifically define what "it" is, you of course launch off into another of your absurdly comical, unhinged tirades.

conspiring to commit cyber attacks against US citizens (20 years)

1) That's not citing the statute, 2) you're wrong about the sentencing guidelines for the offense, and 3) the conspiracy would require an agreement (with the 'hacker') to commit the crime or exchange the information.

You can read all about it:

www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030

read the fucking constitution... Fucking loser.

Look at you, with your obscenities; you're really a big boy now. You've even managed to squeeze in two f-bombs. This is surely the mark of a rational mind confident in his position (and manhood).

And it wasnt cracking a stale reddit joke, and it wasnt during a debate.

It was factually both of those things.

You have SO little truth to fall back on that you have to use a stale reddit joke in your debate

You were going to have a problem with anything he said anyway. Your seizing on his stale reddit joke as proof of some sort of criminal conspiracy is proof of that.

You type an awful lot but have zero information... you seem to experience very little of the objective reality, which makes you and everything you say delusional.

The psychological projection with you is intense, man. Work on that.

Ahhhhh the instant ad hominem. Thats all youve got. Here you are alone again today hoping to get a rise out of me. Seems like you've got a lot of latent homoerotic issues going on that manifest themself as anger towards other men. Maybe just come out of the closet? Yesterday on the other thread you seemed really upset that Ive got a girlfriend, and now you cant be bothered to read the constitution.

But A) Noooooooo. You are absolutely incorrect. https://youtu.be/mQb2S4DIcNc. Please tell me that the statement Trump makes in this video, after watching it, is during a debate? Please point out again how disconnected from reality you are. It was neither a joke, nor on Reddit, nor during a debate.

B) "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted."

C) yes, I do have a problem with treason. Its expressly forbidden in the constitution. Do you have a problem with the constitution? If you want to defend treason, then yes, you have a problem with the constitution. If you have a problem with investigations and trial by jury, then yes you have a problem with the constitution.

The burden of proof is actually NOT on me to prove that it happened. I am not the prosecutor.

Maybe. I dont know, take a class on the fundamentals of US law?

The fact is that Trump knows you are too stupid to disagree with him, and he is correct.

You are incapable of thinking for yourself, and I have sympathy for your handicap, but no patience for it personally.

Ahhhhh the instant ad hominem.

Are you reading yourself?

Here you are alone again today hoping to get a rise out of me

Seriously, are you reading yourself?

Seems like you've got a lot of latent homoerotic issues going on that manifest themself as anger towards other men.

Umm. Ok, sure. It's everyone else. Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Yesterday on the other thread you seemed really upset that Ive got a girlfriend

Ahahahahahah! Yea, that's it!

I advise that on a lucid day, far enough in the future to be disconnected from your present state of mind, that you revisit your conversations online.

"People only disagree with me, because they're closet homosexuals that really want to fuck me and are jealous of my girlfriend," really doesn't read the way that you think it does.

Please tell me that the statement Trump makes in this video, after watching it, is during a debate?

The real question is by what sort of mental hoops must you go through to suggest that "please find the missing emails... the press will reward you mightily" is a direct agreement between Donald Trump and a 'hacker' to surreptitiously access and personally exchange Hillary Clinton's data?

So you found him retreading the same water, but slowly at a press conference for grandma to get it. It still does not come close to a conspiracy violation under 1030.

Not even in your hand selected, "selectively edited," clip from ABC.

But you would know this, and the proper sentencing, if you had actually read the law.

The burden of proof is actually NOT on me to prove that it happened. I am not the prosecutor.

But here you are on r/conspiracy trying to play like you are. That's why your bunk accusations are being challenged.

Despite whatever strangeness is going on inside your head, being challenged on your silly nonsense does not imply that someone wants to have homosexual relations with you.

Whatever causes you to misidentify social cues in such a strange way I couldn't say, but I do recommend you talk to someone about it.

With that, I'll wash my hands of you.

What about the things I said made you believe that I have respect for the words you say despite my assurance to you that you are disonnected from reality? I do not require your input, and find that you are incapable of controlling your ability to perceive reality. You assuming this means I am obliged or interested in reading your thought diary here just proves how delusional you are.

I am not interested. Try going outside, get some fresh air (if you are capable of doinf so) and maybe try to interact with someone in real life for a while. You are trapped in a cycle of delusional thinking and I am neither a mental health professional, nor someone who cares about you enough to give you the attention you believe your delusions require.

You re so angry at women rejecting you that you have to make every argument about feminism? Interesting.

You re so angry at women rejecting you that you have to make every argument about feminism?

No, I'm laughing at the male feminist. Two entirely different things.

You say projection a lot, but you don't seem to understand what the word actually means.

"Good thing that never happened!" - you cant prove that it never happened. 😂😂

Drink some coffee, take a few deep breaths - that will help you gain a sense of calm after being so triggered. When you want to talk about reality come back.

Just yesterday you were trying to tell me I had a wife and kids who I was a step dad to? All completely incorrect, but again point to you creating delusional fantasy scenarios in your mind and trying to attribute them to others.

Take your medications buddy! You'll feel better. If you ever need someone to talk you down from the edge, just private message me.

I gotta admit though. I LOVE how you think liberals are so powerful that every single one of them is actually working with Mueller poring over every detail of the investigation and cross examining every bit of evidence. Its flattering honestly who fearful you are.

Grow a pair. Investigations happen. Only a fucking loser can't withstand a republican investigation. The Clinton's have been doing it for 30 years. Guess you guys just dont have thr stamina.

Double posting again?

I gotta admit though. I LOVE how you think liberals are so powerful that every single one of them is actually working with Mueller poring over every detail of the investigation and cross examining every bit of evidence.

Lol, what? I've said nothing of the sort.

The fact that you seem to think liberals know nothing must cause a lot of cognitive dissonance when you also expect that liberals no everything

This is getting strange. And it's "know." Maybe slow down. Your addiction to cortisol is worse for you than cigarettes.

Grow a pair.

I gather that you've been told that quite a bit.

The Clinton's have been doing it for 30 years. Guess you guys just dont have thr stamina.

This is some strange shit.

Yes, you immediately posited that I must have the names of all of the banks and members of Trumps campaign that were operating AGAINST US law. You asserted that. Either that, or you have zero idea what you are saying. I'm honored you think I'm a republican working with Muellers team. I am not. Again. Thats just your fantasy land.

I'm glad you referenced the cigarettes, which means you read my other posts and history.

This is personal for me, likely a result of me insulting you and hitting a personal nerve on a public forum when you tried to use your delusional rantings to embarrass me and I shut you down. Now you turn around and start stalking me for company.

Interesting. Normal emotionally stable people dont do that.

The last two things you noted are just middle school "I know you are but what am I" structures for argument. In going to assume thats your level of comprehension.

you immediately posited that I must have the names of all of the banks and members of Trumps campaign that were operating AGAINST US law.

That's called a "strawman."

Yes, your arguing that I required the names of all of the bank members was indeed a straw man. Thank you for agreeing.

You say projection a lot, but you don't seem to understand what the word actually means.

Why not use c-span for the testimony when youtube usually means, altered and edited.

And that was after Trump had fired Comey for not agreeing to stop the Flynn investigation.

So how can you translate that to Comey created the investigation?

Ideologies will always fail when they encounter practical application.

Thats why discussion, and a sensible voting body are required. Blanket ideology is not a way to live. Thats why we have a system of checks and balances.

Ideologies fail because they become rigid and incapable of change, by their nature. But everything else around them changes. In the same way buildings collapse in an earthquake, rigid structures do not handle the passage of time as well as flexible microcosms.

But he was a private citizen at that point, correct?