Yes.

What is the end game?

fabulousness

Destruction of a nuclear family involving one mother and one father.

What's the end game?

This is about the only thing you and I have ever agreed on. Strange times..

Oh, well, I'm glad we have agreed on something! 🙂

100% the pink hand in Hollywood. And it’s satanic

"Slay, satan!"

The media push only. Pushing trans and drag sexual identities on children is very dark.

Yeah, usually dance parties and equal rights.

Pretty much. Gay Agenda:

1) Equal rights 2) Good times

What proportion of the gay community engages in sexually promiscuous behavior out of wedlock?

Hmmm I dunno if there is really a gay agenda. I think the agenda is the de-masculinization of men. They want to turn the traditional man into a big pussy for whatever reason. Because people can’t handle getting feelings hurt we are supposed to call a man who thinks he’s a woman, a woman, even though biologically they are a man. Its ridiculous to think we live in a world where if we call something what it is scientifically then we are looked down upon.

I also think there is an agenda to try to push Christianity away. It’s funny how we have to be so accepting of everyone in today’s culture, unless you are white, male, or Christian. It’s like the media is trying to brainwash people into hating that person. Which means it’s coming full circle.

People fought for human rights, the right to free religion, speech, etc. and now we can’t say the truth, it’s a crime to be male, and it’s a crime to be a Christian.

Christians inherited many things from their jewish predecessors. The eternal victimhood complex is one of the most amusing ones. Who else could come up with material like The War on Christmas!?

Christianity has only dominated Western thought for ~2000 years, and still does. But why are they always so persecuted?!

Does anyone else get the feeling that there is a targeted effort to bring up Jews in every thread no matter how unrelated it is?

Could it be so that they can take screenshots of the thread or point to the comments to discredit the CT community and make them look anti-semitic or racist?

Someone has to bring it up in every single thread on this sub.

People defend it by calling it pattern recognition.

Well, use your pattern recognition to realize what these people are doing.

If you study any old western history at all, you'll find that Rome, Babylon, and Judaism come up constantly. It's no accident that the majority of the world population follows some version of the Abrahamic cancer that came out of Babylon. Why do you think that so much of the world came under the sway of a religion from a tiny, insignificant country from B.C. times?

If that makes you uncomfortable, so be it.

Your fantasy interpretation doesn't make me uncomfortable at all.

Why would it?

Fantasy interpretation?! Are you high? It's actual history I'm talking about. At least, as much of the history we can piece together from the scraps they didn't burn and destroy. Both secular and religious education would tell you the same thing. Does history interfere with your sensitivity to the word "jew"?

Yes. Your interpretation that this history proves that Jews are the masters is fantasy. It is not supported by history. It is supported only by you interpolating what history means. History has facts, you have opinions. These two are not the same things.

Where did I say jews are the masters? You were bristling at my mention of "jews" before anything like that even came up. Our abrahamic religions came from a tiny country in the middle east. Who promoted them to the point of being the dominant religions of the world? It was Roman ruling families, but their history traces even further back, through Greece, Babylon, Egypt, Sumer. Jews are just one branch of this sprawling family.

Christians have been despised by the mystery religion since its [Christianity's] inception. There will be no Christians in their ideal of the New World Order. The New Age Religion will be pushed so hard by the existing regime that it must soon appear obvious to everyone that there is an active oppression and infiltration of true Christianity underway in the USA.

Did your "Church" building tell you the truth gospel?

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 

1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 

1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 

1Co 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 

This means it's over. God himself was the final blood sacrifice for sin. Repent and believe that to have fellowship with God through Jesus Christ's blood atonement. You can't get it from anything else. Water baptism, being a good person, donating to charity, sacraments, etc. None of that saves you and those who believe it does remain unsaved in their own self righteousness.

That's just the eternal victimhood talking.

And infiltration? Christianity and Mithraism grew up in the same basements during its early years in Rome. And just like most mystery schools, there's a "Christian" message for the masses, and there's its message for those in the know. The only reason Christianity became popular is because it was heavily promoted by tptb in Rome.

They will transition away from Christianity eventually, though. Sciencism seems poised to be the next big religion. A materialistic, pointless, hopeless view with a disembodied diety named Science, who only speaks to the enlightened priest class with their white robes and religious props.

What they are really after is reducing people to reactions based on feelings. They want to make people more emotional because emotions are very easy to manipulate. Rational people are very difficult to manipulate.

Good point

I've speculated, and have had speculation given to me, that this is the result of a 40+ year old soviet plot coming to fruition. Could this be the case?

Very plausable.

There's an anti-gay agenda and they are just sick of being the scapegoat for evangelical politicians. So they've decided to fight for their equal protection rights as citizens of the United States.

Make no mistake, they didnt pass the laws against themselves.

being the scapegoat for evangelical politicians.

Think of a "pendulum of gayness".

At one end, you've got discrimination, negative stereotypes, hatred and even violence. This one end is a total demand from the rest of society that gay people conform with the majority in terms of their feelings and actions.

Then there's the other end of the pendulum. At this end things are the exact opposite because that's how a pendulum works. At this end, you got the same thing: discrimination, stereotyping and expectations of conformity. But now it's against hetero's and in favor of gays.

In the center is neutrality. The center is where you want to be.

What we're seeing is the pendulum swinging from the anti-gay side to the pro-gay side. It's gone a long way from one end and is moving past the center towards to anti-hetero side.

Why?

Because of two things. One is Cultural Marxism, which today goes by the name of Political Correctness. The other factor is the common tendency for large groups of people to overdo things. Once everyone gets going in the same direction, they tend to keep on going until something fucks up... and "the pendulum" stops, then starts to swing back towards the other direction.

So they've decided to fight for their equal protection rights as citizens of the United States.

Legally things might still be headed for equality. But socially, we're heading past neutral.

The majority of the country has been in the center for a long time. None of this crap they are pushing has ever really been an issue. The majority of people don't give a shit whether somebody is gay or not. Even if they pointed and stared (it is abnormal), nobody really cared. I've had gay friends since middle school and I am old. Nobody cared. Gay-bashing has not been an 'epidemic' for several decades.

What we have is the fringe fighting the fringe and the media and the left trying to drag the rest of us into the fight. This backfires and the people in the center that won't take the side of the fringe will get labeled homophobes and grouped into the other fringe making it appear as if that other fringe is epidemic.

You can take pretty much any identity politics BS and apply the above. These battles are between fringe groups and the media is amplifying them.

Glad to see you still just talk out of your ass.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/16/us/hate-crimes-against-lgbt.html

Nearly a fifth of the 5,462 so-called single-bias hate crimes reported to the F.B.I. in 2014 were because of the target’s sexual orientation, or, in some cases, their perceived orientation.

any identity politics BS and apply the above.

Feminism pendulum, antisemitism pendulum, racism pendulum etc. All of these fall under the umbrella of political correctness.

The one thing they all have in common is that they represent a bit of a power grab. Go back to, say 1950, and think about what it was like to be gay, female or black back then. Then compare that with the situation today.

The pendulum has swung away from disadvantage relative to a white, Christian majority where important decisions are made by heterosexual male authority figures. What's changed? People's perceptions of what's good and desirable and what's not.

the fringe fighting the fringe and the media and the left trying to drag the rest of us into the fight.

Maybe. But I also think that there is a small percentage of "thought leaders" who have decided that they know what's best for everyone else. I also think that there's a tendency to keep on going (somewhat mindlessly) until we overdo something. It's not easy to see right now because we still aren't that far away from neutral.

I'm also old (55). And the change that's taken place in mainstream social attitudes since I can remember (late 60's/early 70's) is huge,. To me, it seems doubtful that so much change has happened of it's own accord.

When you see a boat make a 180° turn and accelerate hard you know A) it's not drifting and B) someone is at the wheel.

So I agree with you about media complicity, but see a deliberate agenda that has resulted in battles between fringe groups.

Nobody is passing laws specifically against heteros.

This has nothing to do with cultural marxism, this is about civil rights and equality under the law according to the Constitution.

There's an anti-gay agenda in the same way there are anti-kidnapping agendas and anti-rape agendas. Those things are not representative of a moral society.

Love is not immoral. Our rights are guaranteed by laws not your subjective sense of reality.

Being gay is noting like kidnapping or rape.

All other things considered equal, I guess gay is no different from straight, however, in practice, gays engage in sexually dangerous and immoral behavior more often than heterosexual couples, simply by virtue of being gay. Which couple would you rather have as a moral guide for children?

What they do as free citizens is their own prerogative. If they want to commit to each other in marriage like any other couple that's completely their right. Marriage, at least according to the state, is a legal agreement between consenting parties. The state doesnt recognize if you had a Jewish, Christian, Harry Potter or Star Wars ceremony, they just recognize the marriage certificate.

Your argument about "moral guide to children" is really inconsequential here. Let's look at it though. The children arent going to be harmed because two people married each other. They arent gonna catch the gayness because your new neighbors happen to be an interior decorator and an art gallery owner. They know what right and wrong is because that's what their parents, institutions and environment teach them. That's a learned behavior.

In the end, we're souls trapped in fleshy bodies. Questions of the afterlife deal with our ethereal, non-corporeal bodies. If two souls love each other and want to commit to each other, who are we to judge?

You have a very individualist mindset. Society should be viewed as a community where an individual’s actions affect more than just themselves. Therefore, we should not only strive to be more moral for our own children, but we should also strive to be good role models for the children of others. Two gay men in a married relationship might not necessarily make bad role models, but it’s not the model we should teach kids as far as what constitutes appropriate behavior. We don’t teach kids it’s fine to fuck their siblings or family members so why would we encourage any other morally deviant behavior?

This is America where individual freedom is guaranteed.

You're not showing how children will be harmed. It's fear mongering with children being used as a prop.

It's none of our business what 2 consenting adults do in in the privacy of their home. We live under the Constitution not your narrow view of the Bible. There is no law saying we need to regulate good vs bad role models. Saying that someone should determine "appropriate behavior" based on their own subjective beliefs is a pathway to illegal discrimination. Comparing incest to homosexuality is making a false equivalence.

You're not proving children are being harmed in any way. You're simply fear mongering because you have an issue with gay people. This is America, all citizens are guaranteed the equal protection of the laws. Using your religion as an excuse to strip the equal protection of the laws to those citizens violates the Constitution.

Who said anything about religion? I’m not a religious person so my argument is not a religious one. It’s a moral one.

Secondly, I’m not proving that children are harmed in any way. Have you seen the degradation our society is experiencing? It may not be due to gay people specifically, but they are just one aspect of it. Who gives a fuck about individual freedom to do as you please if the society around you is destructive? It’s a waste of individual freedom to engage in immoral behavior.

How is it morally wrong? You're not explaining how it is morally wrong. Is being gay an exhibition of bad character, even if they volunteer in their community, commit no crimes, are kind, polite and charitable? You can be morally wrong and straight, but we don't have laws to stop assholes from being assholes.

You're advocating stripping the rights of citizens for alleged harms you can't even prove? Based on your own subjective belief about what is morally wrong? If two law abiding citizens want to get married, how is that morally wrong? How is that immoral behavior? What evil or bad thing are they perpetrating on the world?

The degradation of our society is more centered on greed and narcissism and the worship of money and material things than it is on anything having to do with gay people getting married.

There is clearly an agenda at play. What is is I am confused by. Depopulation Destroy modern families Emasculation of men Destruction of religion ??????

Whatever it is there is no denying the media and television is hard at work pushing it.

yes, there is an agenda and the end result is destruction of the family

If there is a LGBT or "Gay" agenda it is to gain a greater acceptance, freedom, and sense of personal power to create their lives.

Not one story LGBT that I've seen or read on "the beam" has weakened me or made me more controllable. How could any story have the power to do that?

The beam is powerless. It's secondary reality. Just stories.

My LGBT friends who have come out and who live their lives as themselves only empower and inspire me to live with courage and creativity.

Yes and it won't stop at "Gay." Now we have shows like "Transparent" on Netflix (and many others) pushing the trans agenda. You got Miss Universe Spain now trans, trans Playboy models, parents trannifying their kids. After that is normalized, pedophilia will be next and that agenda has already started rolling.

It's all about rebellion against God (Witchcraft)

1Sa_15:23  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

How does indulging in LGBT media weaken people, or make them more controllable and less prone to conflict?

I was walking in Koreatown in Los Angeles today and I was passing beneath a construction awning that had advertisements posted. I don't know what album one of the advertisements was promoting, but I saw two different black male rappers dressed in drag, high heels included.

i don't think it's a gay agenda, i think they are first trying normalize homosexuality to then normalize pedophilia. it's a pedophilia agenda.

they first had destroy families, once they destroyed families they wanted to normalize homosexuality and political correctness. no one is allowed to have an opinion if it's not the "right" opinion.

i don't have anything against gays, but I can see that they are shoving it in our face any chance they can. In tampa for pride they had flyers telling ppl to bring their children. why? i don't think any festival where the majority of people will be drunk adults is any place for kids. most of the kids were dressed in bathing suits or other skimpy outfits. it was disturbing to say the least.

people at work were furious with me because i didn't boycott Kanye west. it was like they couldn't understand that even though i didn't agree with him i still respected his right to have opinion. it became a "you support trump" attack.

Who is”they”

The media. The government. Hollywood.

Definitely. There's an agenda of population control. The LGBT "culture" is heavily pushed upon the people exactly because of it.

Yes

being the scapegoat for evangelical politicians.

Think of a "pendulum of gayness".

At one end, you've got discrimination, negative stereotypes, hatred and even violence. This one end is a total demand from the rest of society that gay people conform with the majority in terms of their feelings and actions.

Then there's the other end of the pendulum. At this end things are the exact opposite because that's how a pendulum works. At this end, you got the same thing: discrimination, stereotyping and expectations of conformity. But now it's against hetero's and in favor of gays.

In the center is neutrality. The center is where you want to be.

What we're seeing is the pendulum swinging from the anti-gay side to the pro-gay side. It's gone a long way from one end and is moving past the center towards to anti-hetero side.

Why?

Because of two things. One is Cultural Marxism, which today goes by the name of Political Correctness. The other factor is the common tendency for large groups of people to overdo things. Once everyone gets going in the same direction, they tend to keep on going until something fucks up... and "the pendulum" stops, then starts to swing back towards the other direction.

So they've decided to fight for their equal protection rights as citizens of the United States.

Legally things might still be headed for equality. But socially, we're heading past neutral.

Where did I say jews are the masters? You were bristling at my mention of "jews" before anything like that even came up. Our abrahamic religions came from a tiny country in the middle east. Who promoted them to the point of being the dominant religions of the world? It was Roman ruling families, but their history traces even further back, through Greece, Babylon, Egypt, Sumer. Jews are just one branch of this sprawling family.

There's an anti-gay agenda in the same way there are anti-kidnapping agendas and anti-rape agendas. Those things are not representative of a moral society.

You have a very individualist mindset. Society should be viewed as a community where an individual’s actions affect more than just themselves. Therefore, we should not only strive to be more moral for our own children, but we should also strive to be good role models for the children of others. Two gay men in a married relationship might not necessarily make bad role models, but it’s not the model we should teach kids as far as what constitutes appropriate behavior. We don’t teach kids it’s fine to fuck their siblings or family members so why would we encourage any other morally deviant behavior?

This is America where individual freedom is guaranteed.

You're not showing how children will be harmed. It's fear mongering with children being used as a prop.

It's none of our business what 2 consenting adults do in in the privacy of their home. We live under the Constitution not your narrow view of the Bible. There is no law saying we need to regulate good vs bad role models. Saying that someone should determine "appropriate behavior" based on their own subjective beliefs is a pathway to illegal discrimination. Comparing incest to homosexuality is making a false equivalence.

You're not proving children are being harmed in any way. You're simply fear mongering because you have an issue with gay people. This is America, all citizens are guaranteed the equal protection of the laws. Using your religion as an excuse to strip the equal protection of the laws to those citizens violates the Constitution.