Space is not really out there - it's simply not real.

The prevalence of the flat earth movement and people waking up to this deception are the reasons why space propaganda - i.e., Space Force - is being introduced now.

There's no evidence of space - there's no way a vacuum system can exist right next to a pressurized system - there's no proof the Sun is 93 million miles away - the moon landing was hoaxed, the Sun Moon and stars are not physical places.

Right - because it's nearly impossible to prove a negative.

The burden of proof is on the people that claim space exists or that the Sun Moon and stars are physical places. There is no proof of this - at all. How can a pressurized system exist next to a vacuum? It can't. And there's no proof it can.

How can a pressurized system exist next to a vacuum?

Gravity

Lol literally “gravity” the one word magic answer to everything

No, but the answer to the question what keeps our atmosphere from being pulled into the vacuum.

That legitimately might be the stupidest thing i have ever read in my entire life. I hope you're trolling and don't actually believe that.

There's no evidence of space - there's no way a vacuum system can exist right next to a pressurized system

(a) Space is not actually a perfect vacuum.

(b) The fact that we can create near-vacuum conditions on Earth disproves your point.

we can create near-vacuums when we create isolated chambers with immense negative pressure to suck out most of the matter - this actually proves me point. It's a vacuum system existing next to a pressurized system. The claim of outer space is that a pressurized system (earth) exists next to a nonpressurized system (space) without a boundary element. Sorry, you are 100% wrong and apparently very unfamiliar with this line of thinking.

You literally said that a vacuum system cannot exist next to a pressurized system. You are amending your statement now ("boundary element") to make up for your earlier imprecision.

As for reality, the Earth-space "boundary element" is the atmosphere, which manifests as a matter density gradient due to the planet's gravity.

I added the boundary element for clarity - but this is common sense. Obviously we can manufacture near vacuum environments - but we need pressurized chambers to do this.

I agree there's a density gradient, I agree there's a pressure gradient - but gravity and space aren't real - they're theoretical abstractions that have never been proven to exist.

but gravity and space aren't real - they're theoretical abstractions that have never been proven to exist

You believe in pressure but you don't believe in gravity? I'd like to hear your reasoning.

Space doesn't exist, so clearly when you use gravity to explain, why his statement about vacuum and pressure are wrong, gravity can't exist as well. That's the reasoning.

Gravity implies that things generate a force based on their mass - I reject this idea totally.

I agree there is a density gradient here on Earth. I agree that things tend to accelerate downwards at a rate of roughly 9.8m/s² because we can observe this and test it repeatedly, but this is not because of the mass of the earth.

(a) Gravity exerts a force on objects proportional to their mass. "Downward" isn't a precise direction. The force pulls toward the center of mass.

(b) Experiments conducted as long ago as the 19th century have demonstrated the effects of gravity net the acceleration of Earth's gravity.

(c) How do you choose which bits of science to reject and accept? You can't actually SEE the molecules which make up the atmosphere. How do you know they are there?

(b) what experiments? There are experiments going back much further that prove the earth is stationary. Check it out if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7tIbwK0ulM

(c) the bits that confirm to the scientific method are the ones that are science. The heliocentric model was not derived through the scientific method - neither was gravity - and there are no experiments that are strictly scientific that support it - only speculative interpretations of various observations which do not strictly qualify as science

what experiments?

Ones you can do in your own garage

there are no experiments that are strictly scientific that support it - only speculative interpretations of various observations which do not strictly qualify as science

You don't seem to understand what science is. If you are testing falsifiable hypotheses using a replicable procedure, you are doing science. ALL valid observations support heliocentric models. All valid observations support the existence of gravity. Any uncertainties being ironed out have to do with the precise mechanics at operation within these paradigms.

"Speculation" and "interpretation" aren't dirty words. They are essential components of hypothesis and theory.

Sorry, no, the cavendish experiment is total nonsense. It's not consistent - similar to pendulums. It's totally absurd and in no way "science" to claim to be able to measure the mass of the earth with hanging balls in a shed.

It's not consistent - similar to pendulums

What does this even mean? Are you quibbling about precision?

It's totally absurd and in no way "science" to claim to be able to measure the mass of the earth with hanging balls in a shed

You're deliberately making it sound far-fetched, but in reality it's quite straight-forward. Knowing the value of G allows an approximation of the Earth's mass due to the Earth-Moon orbital system.

There are no valid "scientific" experiments that support a flat a motionless Earth. Unless you mean something like: "I put a piece of lint on a ball and when I threw the ball the lint fell off, therefore we cannot be on a moving ball because, like the lint, we would fall off."

You're explaining science to someone with the IQ of a brick. Check his history, he's doing the same thing in another thread of denial with no answers. He has no basis of his ideas, just that the youtube man told him. At least he isn't claiming you're harassing him like the other guy.

Space isn't a perfect vacuum I'm sorry you based your ideas on a falsehood.

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there's no way a vacuum system can exist right next to a pressurized system without any sort of division of boundary

Measure atmospheric pressure at sea level. Then go to a mountain, or any elevation really, and measure it again. It's noticeably lower, so much that if the mountain is high enough you'll have trouble breathing, with no boundaries. According to you, there should be a rushing wind coming from the sea to the mountains, but there isn't. Unless you think mountains are a hoax.

Keep going higher, and the air becomes thinner until it's a virtual vaccum.

This might sound nuts but I think it's because they're running out of enemies on Earth.

That doesnt mean that there is actually a threat from outer space... However, a perceived threat increases military spending and that's what the game is all about.

I agree on the money point, but I don't know that it is about running out of enemies. I think it's more, "let's beat our current enemies to it". If progress is actually being made outward then they are going to want to have a hand in it early on.

You cant spend on the military without a perceived threat. Perceived threat is at the very heart of military spending, just look at PNAC.

If Trump had announced it as a 'space exploration unit' this discussion would be very different.

True, and all the UFO stuff in the news could easily be their reasoning. Unless they want to play the Russia or China card like usual. Not that many people would buy it but I can see the speeches now.

"Oh man guys guess what, they made lasers. Now we have to make some better lasers and the SPACE FORCE IS ON IT GOD BLESS AMERICA!"

My own reasoning is to look back at what the NWO stands for. Aat the top of that list is the one world government/currency.

What better way to herald that in, than to create an outside threat that needs all humanity to come together as one?

Its to bring in the new world order by having a global system as opposed to a country system. We will one day be earth not individual contries but for the wrong reasons. They need you to think some space attack is coming for their apocalypse scenario. This is what it will take for them to get a free pass to do this space shit.

Why do we need to waste money on a military branch

They've done that already, 21 trillion missing at the pentagon

that is located somewhere where there is no current restrictions

They are establishing restrictions somewhat, notably for trading and what not

Space to earth strikes. They could attack Iran from space...goodluck stopping that.

attack Iran from space

This is literally what an ICBM does.

Time to invest in tungsten.

Yeah Kinetic weapons technology. No radiation and about as devastating as a nuke without all the drawbacks.

"Outer space" is a complete hoax. It doesn't exist. The reason for the "space force" is simply to reinforce the fantasy of "outer space" in people's minds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otQt8AEZ1PI

Even if anyone were to entertain your theory that "space doesn't exist", which is ridiculous, that video is just terrible.

that video is just terrible.

How could you say that about DON PETTIT?!? He's the best "science guy" and "repair guy" NASA has to offer!

Not that I have no reason to not believe you but, if you're really a kid or teen then chances are you will be alive to see space travel. I mean, SpaceX is planning for manned missions to Mars in the 2020s. If we truly are making progress towards the stars then the US government/military will be doing anything they can to keep their hands in it.

I think the real conspiracy is that you're claiming to be 12. Your post doesn't sound like something a 12 year old would write.

I will concede my friends and I were dumbasses when we were 12. So my expectation of 12 year olds is based on that.

There's a conspiracy going on, prior to Trump's announcement, that he is going to release secret tech which allows for space travel via alien tech which has been reverse engineered and installed on US style UFOs.

I was on the fence about it, until he made the announcement, and now it's a bit more plausible but I'm still more or less on the fence about it simply because if it disrupts the combustion engine, then it will collapse the oil industry and people will get killed for it

To find the correct answer, look at which replies are being downvoted. As others have replied, outer space is a fictional construct — no one is going there, and the “space force” is a construct to reinforce the space construct.

outer space is a fictional construct

Statements like this are rightly downvoted for being complete nonsense.

After pointing out that you’re not a contributor in this subreddit, I’ll ask, have you ever been to space?

I post here all of the time.

"If you've never seen it then how do you know it's real?" is a child's epistemology. All experience, even that which you might call "direct" is filtered through theories, concepts, assumptions, and the imperfect brain itself.

How would "being in space" satisfy someone resolutely committed to an errant worldview? If I deny the existence of Africa, I won't believe that anyone has ever been there. If you kidnap me and take me to Kenya, I can insist that everything is staged. Radical skepticism boils down to special pleading since you get to chose which facts about the world are self-evident, while denying those which you find inconvenient.

You don’t post here “all the time.” Why do subhuman interlopers always forget the meaning of the word “post” and confuse it with “comment?”

Your one conspiracy post literally says There Is No Conspiracy.

Subhuman...?

Just tag these people, so you can avoid them.

Untrue. I was going to say this. It's a cognitively flexible community.

There are already several space related programs that are part of other programs. The navy has a space program, the air force has a space program. There is a ton of nebulous space programs that are quasi governmental-private groups that are outside of proper governmental oversight and regulation, where money is siphoned off the taxpayers into black projects that serve the few and not the masses. By creating a space force officially, it allows for Trump to start defunding these secret projects and putting our investments into ones that have government oversight. I think it's a misnomer to think that we're going to be spending more money by having an extra branch. The money is already being massively spent, it's just a restructuring to ensure it is being managed by people we can trust (aka not the deep state)

We don’t need a military presence, but we do need a presence. There are so many resources in space ripe for the taking.

The US are flying vertical flights, using mirrors to create holograms, and time travel is real.

They’re just getting ready for project blue beam

Read about the project for a new american century. The U.S. has fuxt with every county on their list. We need a space corp to control the oceans drim space, just like the Spanish and British did during the 1600s

My young friend, go find the work of Richard Dolan. He's the best person to introduce you to why a space force has been formed.

I'm of the opinion it already exists and has for about 50 years. It's just now starting to come out of the shadows.

Check out any info you can find on the Solar Warden space fleet and how it was discovered. Not the video game (which does look pretty cool).

Good luck.

"You've taken your first step into a larger world." -Obi Wan Kenobi

My own reasoning is to look back at what the NWO stands for. Aat the top of that list is the one world government/currency.

What better way to herald that in, than to create an outside threat that needs all humanity to come together as one?

You don’t post here “all the time.” Why do subhuman interlopers always forget the meaning of the word “post” and confuse it with “comment?”

Your one conspiracy post literally says There Is No Conspiracy.