House Resolution 6054
1 2018-07-11 by Setonrebel
Anyone see this trash? So vague that trick or treaters could be arrested for 15 years. Way to strip away rights.
https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr6054/BILLS-115hr6054ih.xml
1 2018-07-11 by Setonrebel
Anyone see this trash? So vague that trick or treaters could be arrested for 15 years. Way to strip away rights.
https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr6054/BILLS-115hr6054ih.xml
34 comments
1 Setonrebel 2018-07-11
S.S. Just introduced house bill would make the wearing of a mask illegal, "Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, while in disguise, including while wearing a mask, injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both. "
1 NoYamShazam 2018-07-11
It is the kind of thing conservatives do, first they create a group of hired provocateurs, to attack as "liberal activists," and violent thugs who hide behind masks, the propose legislation to stop it.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6054?r=26
1 saneromeo 2018-07-11
The kind of thing conservatives do? Lmao... it is a rework of the law against the KKK (democrats btw) terrifying blacks and republicans, exactly as pantyfa does today and the brownshirts did in WWII. People can still act like buffoons and throw tantrums in the street they just can't hide their face while doing so.
1 NoYamShazam 2018-07-11
You don't make sense. All the KKK left the Democrat party after the 1964 Civil Rights legislation.
1 saneromeo 2018-07-11
I would love to see nonbiased proof that the so called party switch ever occurred. The Dems fought the Civil Rights tooth and nail. LBJ created the Great Society single mother welfare state, and Clinton enacted three strikes your out and mandatory minimum sentencing which unfairly targeted minorities.
1 NoYamShazam 2018-07-11
The Civil Rights and Voting Rights laws passed in 1964, An election year, HEre is the by state Presidential vote that year.
1964 Presidential vote by state. Johnson/Goldwater, deep South was red.
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/map/historic.html#1964
1968: Deep South votes for George Wallace, Nixon/McGovern, Nixon Won.
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/map/historic.html#1968
1972: Deep South votes for Nixon. https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/map/historic.html#1972
1 saneromeo 2018-07-11
Some interpretations:
1 NoYamShazam 2018-07-11
Oh, it was economic policies not the openly racist Nixon campaign? I don't think so, and I don't think I am going to change my thinking because you disagree
and you moved the topic from claiming there was no change to
providing your theories on why they changed.
Moving the topic is a dialog ending move.
1 saneromeo 2018-07-11
Not interested in changing your beliefs, I merely responded to your information in a good faith in attempt to explain why the few states altered their voting patterns, hence the word "interpretations". Just because a few states changed how they voted does not mean the parties switched. Did all blue states turn red and all red states turn blue? Did party platforms swap? No, of course not. So to restate the obvious, there was no party switch. Also, Nixon was a tool and I wont excuse any racist dumbass regardless their party. (I'm an Independent btw)
1 kat5dotpostfix 2018-07-11
Im no lawyer but that sounds fair. Anyone with knowledge of the law wanna chime in and say whether it could be applied to someone wearing a mask but not causing trouble?
1 Marcuskb91 2018-07-11
Emphasis Mine. I don't think this will apply as generally as you think. Is trick-or-treating infringing on someone's protected rights?
I don't like the short title. Was this specifically written for Antifa? It would seem to apply across the board regardless of group association.
1 Setonrebel 2018-07-11
"Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, while in disguise, including while wearing a mask, injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person"
Amends the hate crime law, so legally they could claim your halloween costume that you wore in public was intimidating to somebody.
1 UnseenPresence2016 2018-07-11
That short title tells you all you need to know about the real sources behind this change and what it's actually meant to be--it's an attempt to shut down the right of anyone (Antifa, Anonymous) who is an oppressed group trying to stand up.
1 UncleSnake3301 2018-07-11
LOL, yes those poor, oppressed ANTIFA goons. How are they oppressed again?
1 brofistnate 2018-07-11
ANTIFA is an artificially created goon squad to give bills like this an excuse to pass this kind of crap. It appears to be working well, I'd say.
1 UncleSnake3301 2018-07-11
So, you're assumption is that ANTIFA was created by the conservatives years ago in order to make a law like this in 2018? What kinda backwards ass logic is that?
1 brofistnate 2018-07-11
I believe they're funded largely by Soros. That's not really relevant though.
1 Setonrebel 2018-07-11
Anything that can hide your appearance is legal precedent for disguise. Opens the door wide
Anything worn upon the person with the intention of so altering the wearer’s appearance that he shall not be recognized by those familiar with him, or that he shall be taken for another person.
A person lying in ambush, or concealed behind bushes, is not in “disguise,” within the meaning of a statute declaring the county liable in damages to the next of kin of any one murdered by persons in disguise. Dale County v. Gunter, 46 Ala. 118, 142.
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-11
My concern is the open interpretation of intimidation.
People scare pretty easily. Would be a shame to see GWAR handcuffed and walked off stage cause someone got offended.
1 Setonrebel 2018-07-11
Yep, that was my point. Since it amends the hate crime act http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18%20section:249%20edition:prelim)
Covers any actual or perceived race, gender, religion, etc. and can be basically assumed to be done at any time.
1 mastigia 2018-07-11
Apparently I can intimidate a woman on a bus for not arranging my legs properly...so ya, you have a point.
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-11
Ah, the dreaded man spreading. Meanwhile, it's totally cool if you take up a whole bench with your purse. No, don't move it on my account. Gah.
Seriously though, masks are anti facial recognition tech. I'm sure this will be a problem for their records.
Unless it's just a plan to reinstate Japanese internment camps by arresting asians who wear dust masks.
1 mastigia 2018-07-11
Right haha?
1 hoeskioeh 2018-07-11
GWAR should have been arrested by the fashion police long ago!
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During their performances, I doubt anyone in the audience would even know for sure whether it was part of the show...
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-11
I had the same thought!
1 hoeskioeh 2018-07-11
Nice.
They have that in Austria (not-lia!) since last year.
Technically it was illegal to wear a thick scarf in winter if it covered your mouth. They fixed that in post, but the hilarity continued with several mascots and advertising costumes prompting police calls.
In Austria, the police came, checked whether the culprit was a danger to society and left again... You guys in the US have a bunch of trigger happy cops who might have riddled that poor lego ninja with an unhealthy amount of bullet holes...
1 mastigia 2018-07-11
How many holes is a healthy amount? Asking for a friend.
1 hoeskioeh 2018-07-11
Well, if homeopathy is right, there has to be some amount of bullet holes, properly diluted, that can remedy an existing wound... :-D
I assume you would have to reduce the caliber... So a .22 to the kneecap might fix that nasty cannon ball through your foot.
1 mastigia 2018-07-11
You are so right about homeopathy there haha.
1 brofistnate 2018-07-11
Makes sense. They can't harass/intimidate peaceful protesters if they don't know their identity. Now you can't be anonymous online, or IRL I guess. That slave collar around our necks gets a little tighter.
It's important to remember this isn't a partisan issue. We have lost rights, and had liberty stripped away from both sides of the isle ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you for bringing this up OP.
1 Setonrebel 2018-07-11
no worries. No, i wasn't claiming any one side was better than the other, just that this highlights more and more of personal liberties being taken away.
1 Reign_Wilson 2018-07-11
It’s an attempt to bring us closer to a police state. They want to make it illegal for protesters to wear bandanas, goggles or gas masks so tear gas can be more effective.
1 Fowler214 2018-07-11
How do you think this will impact the furry population.
1 AlphaQUp_Bish 2018-07-11
So, it is illegal to wear a mask while doing illegal things? What is the point?
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-11
Ah, the dreaded man spreading. Meanwhile, it's totally cool if you take up a whole bench with your purse. No, don't move it on my account. Gah.
Seriously though, masks are anti facial recognition tech. I'm sure this will be a problem for their records.
Unless it's just a plan to reinstate Japanese internment camps by arresting asians who wear dust masks.