Wth is up in Kazakhstan?
1 2018-07-13 by mastigia
Reposting by request from /u/astrolocker2000
Edit: someone made a thread with wayyy more info here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7qrfnw/tuesday_trump_to_meet_with_the_president_of/
Was having a chat with a user on here where we kind of got off on a tangent on Kazakhstan. This post wanders around a bit, I hope you guys are able to piece together where I am coming from. I just started thinking about this yesterday, and the ideas are by no means well organized yet.
I mean, wtf even is Kazakhstan? I think I vaguely remember it as a shitty piece of real estate in the board game Risk. Surely it is just a little 3rd world country where people scratch out a meager existence like much of the other countries in the area? Nope, it is large and it is very wealthy, and it is run by a despot that has some very interesting tastes in architecture.
First, watch this quick 10min video on what is going on in Kazakhstan.
Then check out the Wikipedia entry just for background:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan
What is with all the Masonic/occult symbolism? How are we not aware of the thriving economy there? What is its history?
So, here it is on a map. Note that huge border it shares with Russia, I will get there later.
https://i.imgur.com/DezUxXT.png
Ok, what is the history here? Is it important? There was another influential group of people that originated here. The Ashkenazis. Let us take a look at where they originated from:
https://i.imgur.com/3R3LPUO.png
Map is from here, I would read this too if you are not familiar with the subject of Ashkenazis:
http://www.historytoday.com/nicolas-soteri/khazaria-forgotten-jewish-empire
All of the happenings in Saudi Arabia have many of us excited, and believe me I am too. I don't want to be a wet blanket, but I have had reservations, and I would love to be wrong here. See, there are rumors that the SA royalty may secretly be jewish, of at the very least have a much better working relationship that is implied by the media. How is the relationship between Israel and the new ruler in SA? You know the one that just purged the "corruption" in SA? I found this, and this guy looks pretty good for Israel:
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.797007
I don't know if there are better. But these happenings have undoubtedly been of great benefit to Israel. What if this isn't swamp draining, what if Israel is just consolidating power?
We also know that Israel has major issues with Russia which I never really understood until I looked at this stuff, and realized Russia shares a massive border with Kazakhstan. In fact, I believe all of this conflict with Iran and Russia has nothing to do with nuclear weapons, or suspected hacking, or terrorism. It has more to do with Russia being a historical enemy of the Ashkenazi. What if Israel is just bullshit that was used as a means to an end, while the Ashkenazi were secretly preparing for a return to their homeland?
What do you guys think, am I totally nuts?
EDIT1: Original thread that this spawned from:
Edit 2: one more thing I think is related that I am exploring now, was anyone aware that there is a Chinese sect of Ashkenazi jewish people? I think this could be very important too:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews
Edit3: someone else did a more intelligent write up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7d6jsx/the_people_that_rule_the_world_you_are_still/
More on the Khazars:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/
Edit4:
New Khazar and Scythian hypothetical relationship
81 comments
1 Ghostbustaj 2018-07-13
The capital, Astana, lots of rabbit holes with it to go down. I dearly want to visit there, beautiful city regardless.
Most if not all "returns" from space land there.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
Returns from space land? Not sure what you mean.
1 BoryTruno 2018-07-13
The Russian Space Agency's launch site is in Kazakhstan, and the Soyuz capsule returns to earth over Kazakhstan. That's where they built it during the Soviet Union, and they were allowed to keep it after the fall.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
Ohhh ya. Holy shit, how could I miss that?
1 jje5002 2018-07-13
saudi arabia is disgusting
1 NYComrade 2018-07-13
I remember someone posted a longitude latitude coordinates a while back and it zoomed in on a place called Hell in Kazakhstan.
Also, modern day Kazakhstan is pretty close to where Kazharia was.
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-07-13
I'm pretty sure Kazharia is a fabrication of modern historians.
1 Loose-ends 2018-07-13
If it is then it's a Jewish fabrication because they now fully admit and are even proud of what that empire was.
Or it's completely true and there has been a conspiracy to cover-up it's historical existence mainly by British and American historians who have deliberately omitted any mention of it among the major empires of the past or the role that it played during the period that it existed.
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-07-13
Well I subscribe to a version of the new chronology and it states that much of our history is fabrication. And I don't see a lot of evidence for khazaria or a Jewish state in that region. And the only sources seem to be Jewish sources. Probably an attempt to further obfuscate the empire of grand Tartaria. And legitimize Jewish presence in the region. Much like Israel , think that there is more evidence that biblical Israel was in France and not the Middle East. Lots of fuckery if you ask me.
1 Loose-ends 2018-07-13
The origins of European Jews from some completely non-Semitic Eastern Eurasian stock has actually been borne out by numerous DNA tests and studies that there's also been a concerted effort to suppress and dismiss as much as possible by the mainstream media.
There is also not so small mystery of where the "Yiddish" most European Jews speak happens to come from in that despite being written in the Hebrew alphabet it bears no resemblance to the Hebrew language whatsoever and doesn't share so much as a single solitary word with it and despite having plenty of borrowed German words and terms has no discernable relation to it, either.
So the possibility that started out as an unwritten Khazarian language that also adopted the Hebrew alphabet and phonetics in order to be able to write it would also dovetail nicely into the Khazarian and Judaic conversion narrative.
The so-called Khazarian Empire was also bordered by Christian, Islamic, and Mongol empires who were all at odds and constantly warring with one another making their official conversion to Judaism a pragmatic way to avoid become associated with or embroiled in any of those hostilities.
1 Apolitical_Corrector 2018-07-13
I'm pretty sure you are incorrect. Caspian Sea - Etymology:
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See also: Khazars
Yup! Those "modern historians" just made up Kazharia!
Why? WHO KNOWS??? Probably just to make Jews feel bad and stuff.
Friggin' anti-Kazharites!!!
1 Loose-ends 2018-07-13
The prominent and highly respected author, Arthur Koestler, who also happened to be a Hungarian Jew was one of the first to discover that his own roots had no connection to the Jews in the Bible or that originally inhabited the Holy Land.
A quest and what he discovered in the process that he documented in the book he wrote about it that was simply called "The Thirteenth Tribe".
The opposition was both loud and predictable and on the same level as the opposition and outcry turned up against Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "Russia and the Jews: 200 Years Together" which attempted to completely ban and prevent an English version from ever being sold in the US despite just how well researched and brutally honest his analysis was in all of his works including that one as well. Both books are well worth the read with plenty of factual information surrounding this entire topic.
1 Apolitical_Corrector 2018-07-13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Tribe
Fascinating.
Thanks!
1 spoikle 2018-07-13
I can smell a connection to Revelations somewhere in there. Care to connect the dots for me? lol
1 Meshakhad 2018-07-13
Not really. Khazaria was located in what’s now Ukraine. Germany is closer, and doesn’t have the Caspian Sea in the way.
1 munchkin_9382 2018-07-13
You could also say the movie Borat was made to make people's minds jump to inbred, backwards,ignorent, an all the other things that movie brings to mind instead of the true nature of the country
1 GlobalSouth 2018-07-13
The Borat movies are all about Jewish ethnic hatred for gentiles. Have you ever heard the expression "beyond the pale "when referring to objectionable behavior? This originated in the hatred and superstitions the Jews who lived inside the "Pale of Jewish settlement" had for those goyim who lived "beyond the Pale." Every behavior that is evil, unseemly, or objectionable is attributed to those who live "beyond the pale." Sascha Baron Cohen's borat movies just take this anti-gentile hatred and put it on the silver screen.
1 Earth-Is-A-Prison 2018-07-13
did you ever hear Borat's song "throw the jew down the well"?
Khazak's hate jews
1 swordofdamocles42 2018-07-13
i think its a deflection the guy himself is a jew... a megajew in fact.
1 Meshakhad 2018-07-13
I now have a mental image of a 50 meter tall Sacha Baron Cohen striding through a city, wearing Chasidic clothing and singing Hava Nagilah...
1 GlobalSouth 2018-07-13
For over a millenium, Jews have rehashed the narrative that they are blameless victims hated for no other reason than because they are Jews. Of course it's a lie. They are hated because of the crimes they commit against goyim.
1 dystopian_love 2018-07-13
Everyone accepts that Hitler hated Jews but nobody asks why.
1 ElCommento 2018-07-13
When Hitler was a child, time traveling Mossad assassins kept trying to kill him and this created a causal loop. The documentary Terminator 2 explores this idea further.
1 dystopian_love 2018-07-13
He failed because he didn’t have his trusty swastika.
1 Big-Hard-Chungus 2018-07-13
Because he needed a scapegoat for his politics
1 dystopian_love 2018-07-13
What’s the difference between using a scapegoat and describing actual events that happened?
1 Big-Hard-Chungus 2018-07-13
Name an actual event.
1 dystopian_love 2018-07-13
Balfour Declaration describes how the British manipulated the US into joining WW1 to for the benefit of Zionists. Listen to Benjamin Freedman’s speech on YouTube.
1 Big-Hard-Chungus 2018-07-13
What exactly would Zionists have had to gain by that?
1 dystopian_love 2018-07-13
Lmfao dude study history. That’s like asking what the Americans would have to gain with the Declaration of Independence. Anyway, Benjamin Freedman describes it perfectly, so if you want clarification without having to do deeper research, then watch it.
1 anextio 2018-07-13
That’s not where “Beyond the Pale” comes from. It comes from the 800 year English occupation of Ireland, in which the area surrounding Dublin was known as “The Pale”, and remained under strong British cultural, military, and judicial control whereas the rural areas outside it were harder to control, more culturally Gaelic (and after the reformation, Catholic), and represented a greater departure from English culture and society.
Many Irish people from outside of Dublin still refer to it jokingly as “The Pale”, and the origins of this term are very well documented.
1 kalakun 2018-07-13
my western history prof would beg to differ.
According to him Beyond the pale is used to refer to a small plot of land on the south eastern coast of Ireland where the English held prominence and so they would commonly say to "not go beyond the pail"
1 Colonelclink 2018-07-13
I'm sure about the origin of the phrase beyond the pale but in terms of Irish history the other poster is right in that Dublin is referred to as the pale and for those reasons.
1 monkeybutt1951 2018-07-13
So funny - as I’m reading the post (before this comment) I was thinking of a poor, backwards farm country with no economy because of Borat.
1 wlc 2018-07-13
No economy?
1 monkeybutt1951 2018-07-13
I said that’s how Borat portrayed it, not that it actually is that way...
1 lurker2lurkining 2018-07-13
wlc was making a Borat reference.
1 monkeybutt1951 2018-07-13
I’m dumb woops, so used to getting attacked for miswording on reddit lol. thanks for explaining, sorry wlc! :-(
1 lurker2lurkining 2018-07-13
Nah, you're not dumb. You just didn't catch it :)
1 _loosh_ 2018-07-13
It is the 16th largest oil producer in the world, with over 10% the production of the USA (largest), giving it incredible influence/input in geopolitics, given its size. Oil is largely drilled by the state-owned KazMunayGas, giving the country and people the lion's share of the wealth.
It is now the largest economy in central Asia
1 The_gray_ghost 2018-07-13
He actually is Jewish too, interesting how the movie makes it seem like the country is "anti-Semitic"
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-07-13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McN0JT7YChU
1 Freedom-INC 2018-07-13
Its the number one exporter of Potassium.
1 TrumpHasCTE 2018-07-13
All other countries have inferior potassium.
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-13
all other countries are the home of the gays.
1 MizchiefKilz 2018-07-13
Very nice
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-13
I have a friend who I grew up with, and he is an engineer in Kazakhstan. Before that, he was working in Russia. Regardless of the public perception of these places, the US has always done business with these countries closely.
Our perception is based on what we know, and we are led to believe things based off movies and TV, but i doubt it's intentional. I remember moving from the south of the US to the north as a child, and having everyone ask if we rode horses to school.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
I knew nothing of the place before I ran across some random mention here several months ago. This is what I gathered after the curiosity struck me.
1 swordofdamocles42 2018-07-13
funny, i saw this the other day.. it may interest you regarding the capital https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwNFbkl8ypI&t=562s
1 DCPirate16 2018-07-13
My horse’s name was Chief. What was yours?
1 Allthekunas 2018-07-13
Toyota I think.
1 musicmaker 2018-07-13
I can hardly recall when I was this naive. TPTB don't leave very much to chance. Especially movies and TV.
1 accountingisboring 2018-07-13
I read an article some time ago where Bibi basically said they wanted Kazakhstan back as their rightful home land. Also, Putin and Bibi have been meeting regularly for the last couple of years. I definitely think something is shaking with Kazakhstan.
I’m going to see if I can find the article.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
Oh man, that would be the holy grail of my little puzzle here.
1 accountingisboring 2018-07-13
I’ll work on it today. It was just a glib comment Bibi said to Putin, iirc.
1 Barry_22 2018-07-13
Soo, did you find it? I'm also curious!
1 legend747 2018-07-13
Not a conspiracy but its a fact that the first person to travel in space was of Kazakhstan descent.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
When you start thinking along esoteric/occult lines...maybe it does matter.
1 num8er8 2018-07-13
Yuri Gagarin was russian. First person of kazakhstani descent travelled to space only in 1991.
1 Time_Mage_Prime 2018-07-13
Interesting theory. It wouldn't surprise me to find it's the case.
What I do find a bit surprising is no mention of Kazakhstan on the Ashkenazi Wikepedia page. Where did you make the connection between them? I must admit, TL;DR.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
The ashkenazi are from Kazakhstan, and were a horribly decadent people, so the story goes. They were told by some russian czar to pick a faith or be destroyed, they picked Judaism.
1 num8er8 2018-07-13
Ashkenazi, according to historians, originate from Dagestan. It's on the other side of Caspian Sea.
1 qwertycoder 2018-07-13
Kazakhstan and ASTANTA are some interesting places for sure. I appreciate your looking into and compiling the data here.
A couple years back there was a group called TENGRI 137 that was........ an interesting saga to be sure.
http://tengri137.wikia.com/wiki/Tengri_137_Translation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsjpE2tBy6k
I found after doing some research that they were based out of this mystery school in Kazakhstan.
https://www.facebook.com/itengri/
It looks like they were looking for the seekers and the 1 percenters who see between the lines. I know it is stated that page 23 is still unsolved BUT it could be that SOMEONE solved it already but wasn't aloud to reveal the answer.
The biggest element of this to ring supernatural is the Hebrew name of god formula that results in the Fine Structure Constant.
(pi/7)/Pi to the 7th power= the fine structure constant to 3 decimals, then divide that by 6.67b and you find a much closer representation of the FSC.
Going further, the FSC is the number at which light interacts with matter. and let there be light. haha.
Not a christian BTW but the bible is original Hebrew is Supernatural.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
I'm just hitting the sack, I wanna suck this down on my first cup of coffee. Love the stuff that comes out when I mess with this subject. I will incorporate your info into the OP here, and keep dragging it along through eternity haha.
1 qwertycoder 2018-07-13
DRAG on my dragon.
1 wildfireonvenus 2018-07-13
It's Illuminati city where fake NASA astronauts land
1 captainphillip90 2018-07-13
It’s where Russia launders it’s cash
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
That is an interesting idea, although they do have their own huge economy. Got any sources?
1 GrimTiding 2018-07-13
♫ Kazakhstan is the great.. est country in the world... All oooother countries, a-are run by li-ttle girls. ♪
Jokes aside, Kazakhstan isn't wholly the successor of Khazaria. It ranged from Turkey to Kazakhstan to part of Russia, by modern maps. But you're right, though, about the evil history of Khazarians and the modern descendents aka Ashkenazi Jews. The only way to make sense of the "RUSSIA REEEEE" nonsense of the media is to learn about the millenium-old grudge between Ashkenazim and Russians due to their being forced to convert to Judaism by that Russian emperor in 1100 AD, for doing things that we think of today as typically Ashkenazic behavior such as engaging in usury; stealing identities to better infiltrate host societies; ritually sacrificing children in the same fashion as is in JRM and pizzagate; etc.
1 Ok_Philosopher 2018-07-13
Kazakhstan has one of the world's most sophisticated headquarters for all things artificial intelligence and neural networks. In addition, they have tons of uranium which is necessary for both weaponry and for quantum computing due to its ability to convert into element 93.
If Putin is correct that he who has control over AI will effectively rule the world... well, there you go. That certainly makes this country of significant importance.
1 Barry_22 2018-07-13
Wow, I (Kazakh) work in AI / data science and didn't know about those headquarters. What exactly u're talking about? Thanks in advance!
1 monkeyfear 2018-07-13
Plenty of people who have traveled & read a few things know Kazakhstan has a good economy. I've had very polite & well to do customers visit from there & got curious. Think about how many other things we attribute our ignorance to bc of lack of corporate media coverage.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
Oh i'm sure. The symbolism in their capital is what initially triggered my tinfoil dome protector though.
1 _loosh_ 2018-07-13
You are correct, it has nothing to do with them and everything to do with oil and gas, like the entire Middle East conflicts since the 60s!
1 perfect_pickles 2018-07-13
and China, the central Asian chessboard.
1 vigilante777 2018-07-13
You dont know about Kazakhstan because you're American and you probably couldn't even find Ottawa or Mexico city on a map, nevermind realize that there are extremely wealthy people in pretty much every country in the world. You buy your gas directly from the Kazakhs. Also, the khazar ashkanezi connection is a fringe theory, debunked by actual science based on genetics tests, linguistics, anthropology , archaeology, and history.
1 mastigia 2018-07-13
I have lived in Canada, my family is from Canada. I sure fucking hope I can find Ottawa.
Why ya gotta be a dick? Why are you even here?
1 Shadymonky 2018-07-13
When you say it's been debunked you should provide a source.
1 IanPhlegming 2018-07-13
This doesn't look fringe-y to me. Looks like it got taken pretty seriously.
1 DeliriousPrecarious 2018-07-13
Your ignorance is not a conspiracy.
1 num8er8 2018-07-13
Ashkenazi, according to historians, originate from Dagestan. It's on the other side of Caspian Sea.
1 Loose-ends 2018-07-13
The prominent and highly respected author, Arthur Koestler, who also happened to be a Hungarian Jew was one of the first to discover that his own roots had no connection to the Jews in the Bible or that originally inhabited the Holy Land.
A quest and what he discovered in the process that he documented in the book he wrote about it that was simply called "The Thirteenth Tribe".
The opposition was both loud and predictable and on the same level as the opposition and outcry turned up against Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "Russia and the Jews: 200 Years Together" which attempted to completely ban and prevent an English version from ever being sold in the US despite just how well researched and brutally honest his analysis was in all of his works including that one as well. Both books are well worth the read with plenty of factual information surrounding this entire topic.
1 dystopian_love 2018-07-13
He failed because he didn’t have his trusty swastika.