Cancer cure?

1  2018-07-15 by PM_ME_DELICIOUS_TITS

I've heard of this conspiracy theory many times. It basically states that the cure for cancer is out there but is purposely being withheld by the wealthy since finding a cure is a lot more profitable.

Is there any compelling evidence in this theory or is it likely bullshit?

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CBD oil and changing up ones diet. This depends on what stage/type of cancer a patient has.

What is CBD oil?

CBD or cannabidiol is truly one of the best compounds in the "natural" world.

hemo oil. Can also use hash oil/extracts of thc plants/marijuana.

So technically in a lot of places, it would be illegal for cancer patients to use this right?

hemp cbd oil is still legal in the states. no thc

Oh OK gotcha. Thanks for the info!

diet and even meditation can turn on/off 1000's of genes. Diet can turn of genes that allow cancer to metastasize and move to different tissues.

I've heard that several time before and something that is potentially true. I believe it.

it is true I learned that from doctor rhonda patrick, she had a yt channel podcast foundmyfitness and was on joe rogan like 5 or 6 times.

Thank you I'm going to look into that now.

Cancer is profitable! The powers that be and big pharma don't want a cure, they want their drug money

Has there been any compelling evidenxe for this. Cause I've heard this before and I wanna learn more about it.

Compelling evidence for corporations putting profit before public welfare? Surely you jest.

Well obviously that happens. I'm specially talking about in regards to cancer or cancer research lol

Many doctors who found solutions have had their careers ruined and/or run out of the country. If not simply murdered. Max Gerson is a prime example.

Gersen Therapy Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ia2tfX80vM

Thanks for the link!

Actually there's way more profit in a cure, since a cure would be a practical worldwide monopoly. You would make like $600Bn/year.

Depends on what cure you're talking about.

There is this guy who said he cured cancer with his machine but idk

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife

Then there is CBD oil

As far as any of these fully curing cancer I can't really say. Luckily I have not gotten cancer and to my knowledge there are many different cancers caused by different things

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What I meant is that there is a theory that states that there is an unknown cancer cure out there but it isn't being released or revealed because finding a cure is more profitable.

I was wondering if there is any evidence for this theory or if it's likely bullshit.

Well if you read the wiki

Rife was able to do this with evidence but he claims the medical industry scared his colleagues and made him out to be a fraud.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/cancer-in-general/treatment/complementary-alternative-therapies/individual-therapies/rife-machine-and-cancer here is some more info on his machine

CBD oil studies are being and have been done and confirm to kill cancer cells and help with cancer all around

https://www.principesactifs.org/spain-study-confirms-cannabis-oil-cures-cancer-without-side-effects/

https://www.projectcbd.org/cancer

To my understanding, it does not kill the cancer cells. The mechanism involved is more or less programming the cancer cells to “eat themselves” while leaving the healthy cells and tissue around the cancer unharmed.

Suicide. Or killing yourself, kinda the same thing. Either way it's good. My father is living proof, stage 4 lung cancer and stage 3 lymphnode 99.9% gone after 8 months.

Yeah, semantics I know. The important thing is, it has shown and is known to be effective against multiple types of cancer.

What regimen was he on, if you dont mind to share? May help someone out there.

Cannabis oil, chats tea and kind vegan for abit. He still eats sugar now and I hate that fact.

He also did one round of radiation and is on at home chemo which ruined his throat and his feet.

I'd like to hear what regimen he was on as well. Great to hear about your father!

Woah, that's awesome!

Great, may be I will get a good answer, since he has it in the lungs, how does he take the CBD oil, do you simply drop a few drops under your tongue, inject it, rub it on your chest?

He makes it himself and then puts it in capsules. My mom and him weigh it and he takes 4 caps a day, the largest being before bed time. He makes it the way Rick Simpson shows how to make it. He likes capsules since you don't taste it.

Well self cannibalism doesn't sound as good as kill.

Lol thank you I was not too sure behind the science i just knew it worked

The rife machine although very expensive (if you can rent or borrow one) can can cure several things. Something the wife is looking into.

Ya ive heard of them running from hundreds to hundreds of thousands. I wonder what the differences are

Never seen them really go for more than up to 6000$ but prob wrong. I just started reading about the rife machine about 2 months ago. Was looking for ways to treat either lyme/SIBO.

Oh don't take my word for it a single price range in one article so I don't really know tell you the truth.

Hope everything works out.

I've read some interesting ways yo treat Lyme here in this sub buy unfortunately I didn't save them. Wish I did so I can link for you

No prob man. Met a very informed user on here that has lyme. And that guy is my biggest source.

Don’t forget black salve!

Just type in an ailment and “binaural rife frequencies” in YouTube. Super trippy. Lively comments sections.

Alkaline water. Cancer cannot live in an alkaline environment. Foods that are greasy and sugary are basicly food for cancer cells. When your bodys ph balance isnt correct cells have a higher chance of becoming cancerous when they mutate

I've heard about this being used as alternative treatments. Is it actually successful? Cause if it is, you'd think more people would use it

Its very successful main stream media just keeps it repressed because they cancer is population control. Its illegal in America for doctor to use diet as a treatment for cancer, also chemotherapy is one of the only medications doctors make direct money off of, normal prescriptions are just between the patient (and or insurance company ) and the drug company but with chemo the medical facility buys the drugs and then marks up the price to whatever they want

Its illegal in America for doctor to use diet as a treatment for cancer,

That is a lie. Doctor include diet as part if their treatment for cancer and many other ailments.

Actually doctors cant tell a patient that they can cure whatever type of cancer with certain diets and oncologists refer patients to dietitians and specialists for that.

Well, yeah, because a diet will not cure cancer. A diet can serve as a compliment to existing treatment but it will not be your primary treatment and it will not cure you.

Hell, any doctor that says that any treatment at the moment can cure your cancer is being disengenuos. They can manage the symptoms, kill cancer cells I'm a certain area, and stem the growth but they cannot cure it.

I have 4 people in my life right now that are still alive with out any chemo/radiation/meds with using certain certain diets. Also work alongside with cancer researchers that will say that eliminating a lot of bad food choices from ones life will starve/kill off cancer cells. And that's including if the patient uses CBD.

Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

Those cancer researchers should lose any credentials they have if they are claiming that diet alone can cure cancer. Especially since no known cure for cancer exists. There is some positive research but it is far from conclusive and is extremely irresponsible of anyone claiming to be a medical professional to tout diet alone or even in combination with CBD to be a cure for anything.

Prob came off the wrong way with saying that but with certain types of cancer and depending on what stages they are at, they do state yes it will, depending on how clean one is eating. Now they arent telling patients this because everyone knows that the medical industry is technology driven and yes they will lose thier credentials. But I bet if the newer attendings were to be diagnosed with cancer, they would stay away from the newest ways hospitals are treating patients. I guarantee the first thing they would do is to seek out a integrative nutritional specialist/dietitian/nutritionist. And with CBD, I bet if you dropped a mass of cancer cells into a bucket of CBD oil, you would see it fall apart and disintegrate.

So you can lower chances by drinking alkaline water regularly?

Dr. Burzynski had fda trials for a patented cancer cure.

He got fucked by the system... 2 or 3 documentaries on the subject and a few books.

Racketeering in medicine...

Cancer is serious business

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cancer+the+forbidden+cures

Very interesting thanks for sharing that.

I've also had people say that chemo actually has a very low success rate as a cancer treatment. Is that actually true or just made up?

It kills the immune system which is necessary for fighting cancer.

This is most certainly not true, chemotherapy is very effective. The most important question when it comes to cancer is what type of cancer. Some are more aggressive than others. There will never be a single cure for all cancers, there's too many types and variances.

chemotherapy is very effective

If this were true, my dad's friend would still be alive.

The goal is to get as close to killing you without actually doing so. Chemotherapy is brutal but it is effective. I have experience in the field and over half are saved by treatment, what would you rather they do? Give up and die?

Actually - chemotherapy is less than 10% effective.

Far more people are killed from chemotherapy than are saved by it. It is an indiscriminate treatment and outdated in the modern age.

Is there a source for that? Cause holy shit if that's true

It's pretty much common knowledge that chemo barely works. It's just one of the only options out there. https://www.google.com/search?q=success+rate+of+chemotherapy&oq=succe&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.2871j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I knew that it had many problems but I didn't expect the percentage to be THAT low. Thanks for the link

I haven’t done my own research into the odds of chemo, and perhaps it’s a combination of the type of cancer and luck, but my father was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2006. He got chemotherapy and today, 12 years later, is still alive and in great shape!

I'm so happy for your dad!!

Spontaneous remissions and cures point to the body's immune system, DNA, or mind (or a combination) being the where the ultimate cure lies. There is science coming out based on this, but it seems to disappear, and the chemo-radiation, immune system kiling industry rolls on.

Well when's the last time you heard of a member of the royal family having cancer? Or a lot of people in power for that matter

They're profiting off deaths of many others below them, this world sickens me

Well when's the last time you heard of a member of the royal family having cancer?

Prince Michael of Kent was treated for prostate cancer in 2014.

Princess Margaret died from lung cancer in 2002.

King George VI also died from lung cancer, but it was decades ago.

As for people in power, I'm inclined to think that if anyone could have had access to a cure, it would have been Steve Jobs, who died from a pancreatic cancer in 2011.

Great points!

The fact that your body is killing off cancer cells everyday of your life suggests there should be a 'cure' or at least a way to amplify the cancer-cell's semblance/pretense so it can't camouflage itself.

Also the fact that hospitals are investing billions of dollars in "cancer wings" suggest a settling-in on "treating patients".

(there are many different causes of "cancer" and underappreciated are virus')

fairly new immunotherapies work kind of like that. afaik jimmy carter had already metastatic melanoma and it cured him as far as the doctors know.

it's not without side effects as it sends the immune system into overdrive which then attacks cells with specific markers. cancer cells have a lot of these but so does any other cell type with varying degree. it's kinda like a weeks long rheuma surge, very taxing and probably painful.

inflammation trigger the immune system, too much anti-oxidants can hinder the process.

take plant pesticides like turmeric and curcumin to stimulate the immune system.

Upvoted.

OP is absolutely justified suggesting a conspiracy here. there are many confirmed medical conspiracies, the syphilis-study on black men in the south USA is only one.

I saw a medical book on "Breast cancer" that had a photo-series that illustrated the "development of breast cancer"; this poor woman's breasts were photographed looking swollen to literally blossoming with tumors--why didn't they perform a mastectomy? To document "the progression of the disease" probably. The woman was black, of course.

Cannabis is another medical conspiracy, as noted by other commenters here. Cannabis was recognized by many famous, published physicians in the 19th century for its obvious medical applications, and well, we know what happened...

Hey thanks for the upvote and the info!

Regular high doses of vitamin C through a drop?

I heard it can oxidize cancer and kill it. But IV is the only way and FDA has worked to lower the availability of IV's with vitamin C.

however I think it's just ascorbic acid which is NOT VITAMIN C. It's the antioxidant outer layer of a complex. there is like 3-4 parts to vitamin C, I recommend whole food sources. Natural berries rich in vitamin c, and other brands use bone meal?, and other non-vegan sources.

It basically states that the cure for cancer is out there but is purposely being withheld by the wealthy since finding a cure is a lot more profitable.

i don't think so because

1) most of cancer researchers would have to be in on it.

2) cancer is an umbrella term for hundreds of diseases with different mechanisms and a single cure is highly unlikely

3) progress is made constantly and new and promising treatments are public knowledge

Interesting. Thanks for the link

yeah, i find it so fascinating that i bring it up anytime cancer is discussed. a man as old as a tree with one of the most aggressive cancers and a prognosis of a few weeks gets practically cured. so freaking awesome.

Shows how far we have come. Ten years ago, this likely wouldn't have been possible

I don’t necessarily believe it, but supposedly keto is a ‘cure’ for almost all cancers (except for one specific brain cancer that it speeds up), and that’s why the FDA doesn’t want people eating that way. In theory it does slow cancer cells down, but I don’t think you can conclude it ‘cures’ it though.

It does put type 2 diabetes in pure remission though (if done very specifically - they can’t just do normal keto) - , and was the original treatment for it before insulin was synthesized.

Have seen a couple of documentaries about alternative cancer hospitals in Mexico - treatment illegal in US like Rifes www.oasisofhope.com is the most established

Thanks for the link!

Welcome - DDG mexican cancer hospitals, there are more

If you’re looking for source context to this you can investigate John Rockefeller and his foundational involvement with the American Medical Association, the Flexner Report of 1910 and its fallout, IG Farben and the FDA. That seems to be where most of the “medical-industrial complex” of the present originates, seemingly, the argument being that JDR PR-wrangled the US medical standards into being supported by his business interests (or: JDR created reliance on evidence-based medical standards). Either way it made sellable cures, that JDR could supply, the standard, and created a gigantic new industry rife for opportunism.

As for controlling academic science to further propagate reliance on these standards, some large corporations have histories of filtering and directing academic and medical research through overt means such as through training sponsorship, board management and philanthropy (that is, philanthropy IF you support a conclusion, ie a bribe).

This is if you see science as something “just,” which IMO already means you are reliant on a symbol as truth without inspection of its realities (being a category as manipulatable as any other). Rationalism has made “science” abstract a catch-all for legitimacy unfortunately - “suggests scientists.”

Also might be worth understanding why someone would suggest humanity is a cancer on the planet organism, the eugenics programs of the 20th century (incl. history of abortion clinics and their business interests like Proctor & Gamble), and inevitably vaccines and chem-trails for further context to this line of thinking, which ends in a perspective of enslavement and intentional handicapping of populations for control, not just profit. I can’t say if that’s true, but it’s easy to see it.

Woah. Thanks for all of the info!

There are lots of cures for cancer. The problem is they are almost all low cost or free and so they aren’t profitable to propagate for the mainstream medical establishment.

There is no such thing as "cancer". The symptoms of "cancer" are nothing more than damaged cells. The build up of damaged tissues and fluids in the body results from clogging in the lymphatic system. Basically you are poisioned by your own waste tissues. The simple and only solution is to unclog your body. The only thing that could prevent your body from functioning properly are the things that you put into it.

Imagine how profitable it would be to be a company with a global cure for all cancers. There's just not a financial argument that makes sense to motivate hiding the panacea.

There are thousands and thousands of people going into work every day in labs, exhausting themselves trying to make just one incremental contribution that will help someone with cancer. Many got into the field after having relatives die. They also die from cancers. Many choose lower paid jobs to stay in research. Cancers are complicated, but we know more about them now than ever before.

Huge progress has been made recently with advances in immunotherapy, built on decades of research and hard work. It's a hugely exciting time in the field as there is constant news of immunotherapy being successfully used for the first time for various cancer subtypes.

People looking to profit off of other people's pain by necessity have to discredit cancer researchers in order to successfully fool people into buying their simple answers. This is the bullshit. It's the seed of doubt that gets someone with an easily treatable cancer to delay conventional treatment until it's too late, all while lining the pockets of these soothsayer with tens of thousands of dollars.

Just noticed your handle - wrong but delicious 👍

Lol. Thanks for noticing

Rick Simpson oil.

Keep your body alkaline.

It's probably possible for a large majority of cancers to be cured "naturally" with just diet and lifestyle changes, and maybe using nutrition therapy. A smaller amount probably requires more aggressive measures like various easily produced drugs. A smaller still fraction is probably difficult to cure altogether. So a majority of cancer patients are probably just being treated to keep the health care industry running.

PhD in biochemistry here. The conspiracy that there is a single cure out there for cancer is bullshit. I don't really feel like going into a ton of detail in my explanation but the reason for cancer not having a viable cure is that every kind is different. Each type of cancer (skin, breast, etc) generally has its own unique type of insults and within a single type of cancer can have lots of variation as well. This is the reason that certain drugs work on specific cancers and drugs that work for some people do not work for others. So as for a small molecule or drug that cures cancer: you will never see it. There is quite a bit of research into training your immune system to recognize self cancer better. These are mostly in the research stages and some are in clinical trials. This is the best chance at a 'cure'.

People who make the claims that we are putting billions of dollars into reseat and seeing nothing are also wrong. We have made significant research and drug gains through this funding. What needs to be considered is that these treatments should not be looked at as a cure, but an extension on life. People may have terminal cancers that don't respond to treatments, but there is a high proportion that do and the patients get another 5-10 years of life, sometimes longer. Cancer is a combination of mutations and things going wrong in the perfect way. When cancer comes back, it's usually terminal since not all the original cells were destroyed, spread elsewhere and now have picked up additional mutations and features that are harder to remove or treat.

So yeah, the claim there is a cure is bullshit.

Thanks for all of the info! And congrats on your PhD!

There's a good documentary about the history of incidents when cancer was cured successfully by various different methods. It's called:

Cancer: The forbidden cures.

Written and directed by Massimo Mazzucco.

Thanks for the link!

Its partly true i imagine, however given the vast array of cancers possible within the human body and the various stages and disease cofactors no cure could be a panacea.

On the alternative side Vitamin C in high dose intravenously or liposomal sodium ascorbate (vit c), coupled with d3 along with some other crucial minerals and an expertly selected restriction diet seems like something worth looking at.

Certainly there is plenty of evidence that pharmaceutical companies are not interested in cures if they cannot patent them - they are definitely interested, almost exclusively, in finding methods of relieving symptoms and providing ongoing locked in subscriptions to certain drugs that they have patented.

For every major disease there seems to be an ongoing schedule attached which just happens to be the most profitable model imaginable with a cure being the least profitable model.

Very interesting. Thanks for the info!

There's actual proven prevention and treatment.

I'll prepare for unnecessary downvotes... But animal proteins are the accelerant for cancer cells. Plant based blood literally kills cancer cells.

The government subsidizes the dairy, meat and egg industries.. Just like big pharma.

There's no conspiracy here, they want to keep us sick.

Helpful video on the topic: https://youtu.be/7fSabEgAAJo

Thanks for the video!

I checked out the video sources. It's weird, but two of of his three sources aren't about vegan blood at all - it's blood from people on the Pritikin longevity diet (which includes eggs, dairy, meat, and fish).

I'm generally pro reducing animal products but this guy is either lying or really bad at understanding papers.

I think maybe it's worth a re-watch. He absolutely references vegan blood.

Unfortunately reduction isn't healthy either (definitely for the animals).

Here's a video directly from a health professional whose PhD is based on this exact subject. https://youtu.be/MHj93P3P7Mw

It's way more in depth and concise.

I'll just throw some sources at you on this topic. It's been proven so it's not a question.

ANY ANIMAL PROTEIN BOOSTS THE LEVEL OF CANCER PROMOTING GROWTH HORMONE IGF-1 IF YOU EAT MEAT CHANCES OF GETTING CANCER IF YOU'RE A MAN 1 IN 2, IF YOU'RE A WOMAN 1 IN 3

Oh, I see why the youtube guy from the first post was talking about the two articles as if they tested blood from vegan diets.

When Greger talks about those two studies, he describes them both as testing a 'plant-based diet', although they actually tested blood from an omnivorous diet with high vegetable, low meat (the Pritikin diet). Since he was talking about veganism before, it leads the audience into believing that he's still talking about studies on vegan diets. It's definitely presented confusingly enough that the youtuber thought that all the studies were on the properties of vegan blood. So that's where that was coming from.

“Pepper Neely Anti-Cancer Bill”

“Dr. Max Gerson”

“Stolen research journals”

https://gerson.org/gerpress/dr-max-gerson/

Have fun! 😇

Thank you!

To my understanding, it does not kill the cancer cells. The mechanism involved is more or less programming the cancer cells to “eat themselves” while leaving the healthy cells and tissue around the cancer unharmed.

Suicide. Or killing yourself, kinda the same thing. Either way it's good. My father is living proof, stage 4 lung cancer and stage 3 lymphnode 99.9% gone after 8 months.

Well self cannibalism doesn't sound as good as kill.

Lol thank you I was not too sure behind the science i just knew it worked

Thanks for the link!

I think maybe it's worth a re-watch. He absolutely references vegan blood.

Unfortunately reduction isn't healthy either (definitely for the animals).

Here's a video directly from a health professional whose PhD is based on this exact subject. https://youtu.be/MHj93P3P7Mw

It's way more in depth and concise.

I'll just throw some sources at you on this topic. It's been proven so it's not a question.

ANY ANIMAL PROTEIN BOOSTS THE LEVEL OF CANCER PROMOTING GROWTH HORMONE IGF-1 IF YOU EAT MEAT CHANCES OF GETTING CANCER IF YOU'RE A MAN 1 IN 2, IF YOU'RE A WOMAN 1 IN 3